NH: 420 celebration may include new drugs

[keenwittedinc]

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[ghettodank2]

I totally agree with your message. Thoreau's message in Civil Disobedience was "if a law is unjust, it's your obligation as a citizen to break the law". It seems radical, but people have put it to use. It was used during the Civil Rights era to end segregation, and now its our turn. If anti-marijuana prohibitionists were able to gather a mass rally, not just one with a bunch of stoners getting fucked up, but a legitimate protest, the government may finally take action with legalization.

[boobsticles]

The man who looked like an Egg.

[IVoteNone]

The drug war is where libertarians always puss out. They like to pretend the only illegal recreational drug is marijuana because they know there's a little bit of growing public support so they compromise. True libertarians rarely come out full force with the admission that crack and heroin also ought to be legalized.

[RondoRaven]

could someone explain to me why this would be a good idea? because it looks to me like a set-up.

[Mascofootball75]

absolutly rediculous.

[Mascofootball75]

that is just stupid! i mean i can agree that the prohabition of cannabis is out of line but heroin, crack and methamphetamines????? we dont need a whole new generation of junkies because mine is already lost it. im 19 and ive had my own struggle with opiates like heroin/oxycontin, its a huge problem among young people. maybe strict punishmentisnt the anser maybe we need to look at court ordered sober living. you want to legalize hard drugs? than you the fucking devil in my eyes...

[JAD2121A]

Wow that's incredibly DUMB .

[kittyprydekissme]

So people can do any drugs they want at this protest? Can they even smoke cigarettes???? I'd love to see that.

[kdeanyt]

Anybody is invited to come and do whatever their drug of choice is, or no drugs if that's their thing. The War on Drugs doesn't just affect drug users. Tons of money is dumped into it with no benefit to communities. Innocent people are searched with "suspicion of drug" tossed out as the reason. Ever increasing police presence to "combat it". Whatever your reasons, anyone is invited to attend. :)

[militarysims]

I fail to see how having people getting drunk and shooting up heroine doing lines of coke and other drugs in public having anything to do with more freedoms for the people?? Or better yet walking around topless in public? Whats the message here to the public? If they don't like it hide in your house or move to a new town/ state? They talk about posting address of Law Enforcement officers on web sites who they feel are over the top. I say we post photos and address of all know FSP members.

[hibraisil]

Specifically, ending the war on drugs has a lot to do with freedom because the war on drugs itself has been a very oppressive and destructive policy. I'm watching to see how things go. As a cause the free state project is still in its infancy. Whether it suffers a crib death or not depends on the willingness of its supporters to learn how to be effective at what they're doing.

[kdeanyt]

Tax payers are funding more police, more weapons, test kits and all the goodies the police have to crack down on drugs. Searches are performed with "stopping the flow of drugs" cited as the reason. Governments are intruding more and more into the lives of peaceful people in the name of fighting drugs and it isn't confined JUST to drug users. Bring this to people's minds and changing those issues is what this is about, and it will result in people being more free.

[militarysims]

As I have said before I had been supporting some of the idea's of the free state project. Then I said with all the crap they are pulling that really has nothing to do with gaining us more rights I was moved to the fence. With this open drug use planned I'M now off and fence and as a life long NH native I'M now anti free stater /project it's self. I will now be leading the fight to bring down the FSP from the other side.

[hibraisil]

I was going to say something to directly respond to you but I think I'd rather point out to the Freestaters that this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Of the 300 million people in America how many do you think haven't set their opinions in concrete? How many of those would you like to convince to support rather than oppose you?

[militarysims]

As I have said before I was supporting them fully when they started. With the idea of moving here to fight for more rights I was on board with that all the way. Started with open carrying and getting gun rights out there for the masses. But the last year or so the battles they are picking have nothing to do with more rights. It's more about doing what ever they want and making the rest of us deal with it. Sorry but they did this to them self's they pushed me over to the other side.

[hibraisil]

So if Martin Luther King pissed you off you would start supporting Jim Crow Laws? You don't have to like people to support a cause.

[militarysims]

It has nothing to do with the people. It's the message they are sending out.

[hibraisil]

So you're against Liberty then?

[kdeanyt]

You're falling into a collectivist trap there. I've even had other Free Staters say "this is a bad idea". I moved to New Hampshire as part of the FSP, but nobody IS the FSP. The FSP isn't organizing a drug-free-for-all, I'm trying to. The FSP isn't "picking battles", I am.

You said you support some of the ideas that bring many of us here. I invite you then, to "do it right". Organizing something that YOU would get behind and let us know. I'll be there if it's a stand for more freedom.

[deathmarch5]

let me guess you appose legalization not because you would like to see freedoms increased and lower taxes but its because they are bad and so are the users. Lets just leave out the dope growers from afghanistan. They only produce 80% of the worlds opium. So with all the dope there and you cant fly with out a snap shot of you balls how dose the opium get here Magic? Are we to believe the lie it all comes from mexico? Is that part of why the boarder was left open? Or is it the CIA's C130 airplane?

[Anothercoilgun]

Now google is forcing us to us @ by default. Damn google.

[Anothercoilgun]

Hopefully the US will not be under marital law by April.

[COUNTRYSKUNK1969]

@Anothercoilgun.. What makes you think that might be possible

[hibraisil]

I guess this comes down to picking your battles. On principle it might be right but from a PR standpoint its a BAD BAD idea. Do you want to make progress or do you want to give the opposing side ammunition to drop a PR napalm bomb? People still don't seem to get the idea that you have to consider whether your actions are going to turn middle-of-the- road opinion for or against the cause. (part 1 of 2)

[hibraisil]

part 2 of 2- I can tell you right now that the opponents of liberty will start saying "See? they started "doing" Pot in the park and now they're moving on to harder drugs." And then they'll go on to play on every fear anyone has regarding drug use and of course will start screaming "Think about the children."

Just to recap...If your goal is to gain more support for the cause of Liberty this is a BAD BAD BAD idea.

[militarysims]

What goal of liberty? The FPS is nothing more then a gang now. each nut job has their own goals they want to push. They start to many battles on to many fronts with out even gaining any ground on any topic or winning any of the battles.They are now just like any other gang out there.There message is"We will do what we want when we want. If you don't like it move" Well I say enough is enough I will allow no oneto moveto my state and try and bully me or my family around. Winds of change are coming

[hibraisil]

Your state? Do you have the deed to prove that you own it? You got it close though. Their message is "We will do what we want as long as we don't hurt anyone else and if you don't like it, tough. How are they bullying you? Have they tried to force you to do anything or punished you for not doing anything?

Its a lot tougher to unite individualists than it is to unite sheep and robots. But its coming together, growing pains notwithstanding.

[kdeanyt]

I want to see people free to use any drug they wish. I encourage and support safely doing just that.

Marijuana has been illegal for longer than I've been alive. There's a mountain of evidence that it's less harmful that the now-legal drugs, and yet... it's still illegal.

It's crystal clear to ME at least, that "winning the minds" of some people can't EVER be done. Given that...

When IS the right time to get out there and advocate for the more stigmatized things?

[hibraisil]

I agree with you on people having their own choices. I believe in Jefferson's idea of freedom. "Do what you want as long as it harms no one." However, we are dealing with several generations of people raised on propaganda. I think its bad strategy to give the other side any ammunition to take advantage of people's fear right now. It would set back the legalization movement. Weed is the major battle. Win that one and we'll be in a better position to win the whole war.

[hibraisil]

In the end its a matter of timing. "He will triumph who knows when to fight and when not to fight." Sun Tzu- The Art of War.

[Anuksunanon]

You always make me smile. :)

[67kneil]

you should be able to do what ever in the privacy of your own home my casa is my country .

[Organjic]

UH OH!!!! :P

[cowboybob3000]

i dont think this one is a good idea!!! u wont bring positive awareness by having someone show up with coke or heroin and banging it in their arm!!! ive seen it, something creepy about it and it just wont go well with people!

[mcgrawtim123]

Can a citizen bring a Bible? a Quran? a Book of Mormon? Mad Magazine?

[sharpie443]

Get some people together and bring a keg.

[x11115]

We need to revolt from being slaves is what it is!!!!!

Boycott corporations like drug manufactures / prescription and nonprescription because they control them both....

Dump all the tea in the ocean lol....

seriously we need boycott them because this is where they profit most from.... spread this message boycott drug companies!!! the government is a drug pusher for the drug companies and health care system!!!

[COUNTRYSKUNK1969]

Anybody notice what a Prick Poolman is? Mommy not show you enough Love growing up?

[harryogre]

COUNTRYSKUNK1969

Yea, its sad really.

I tried talking to him before I realized he's like 12 or 13 and living on some base in South Korea where his parents are stationed and he likely hasn't spent much of his short life in The US. He probably doesn't have many friends and his parents don't pay much attention to him.

p00r little guy.

Screaming for attention.

Likely will end up working in Washington as a Congressional Aid.

[RidleyReport]

I will say this for pool; if he's only 12 he has pretty good writing skills for such a young person.

[COUNTRYSKUNK1969]

Right  on he's no Dummy just mixed up I think.

[hibraisil]

@RidleyReport. Look at him in his uploads. He's old enough to shave at least.

[andrewpyrah]

I'm in favour of this but I'm not sure how some people will take. It could be seen just as a group of teens getting wasted...I know that's not what its about but its all about perception.

I know the liberty activists will do their best so we'll have to wait and see how it pans out.

[x11115]

no it's not about perception. it's about money. they can't patent a plant to make billions from the plant. get that through your head and you'll understand it. WE are allowed to enjoy the things that come for free on the planet or an individual can harness without the government or industry. this is an infringement on basic human rights period. You are not my controller. I don't want to come to your house and control you.

[x11115]

I do but the government is corrupt and effect independent and honest business. so they are a hurdle to independents like me. do you like being an ass hole? I just explained how the fda is corrupt. they effect everything that you put in your body, how kids are medicated, your family, everything, even how you enjoy yourself as an adult. these things I want to do for myself moron. productive - i'm more productive thinker than you will ever be. I'm not your slave.

[mrethrift]

Hey gon't make Bravo jealous by complimenting someone else's tool.

Speaking of literate, could you smooth out this statement: Are you being AFFECTED by having to do something more productive with your free time?

[p00lman]

There's nothing wrong with that sentence in the context of me questioning his own word choice.

You should ask your teabagging friends what they think.

[mrethrift]

No, but in the context of smoothness and aptness, it's fucked. Not very literate. What is your native language?

[p00lman]

I'm not surprised you don't understand what "context" means. You need to take a break from teabagging and pick up a book sometime.

[mrethrift]

I'm a pretty heavy reader.

[p00lman]

Really? 220 pounds? 250?

[mrethrift]

haha duh! At least I can recognize sarcasm. And bad puns! Double duh!

BTW, I flex my vocabulary quite well. How come you don't flex what you got, Ogami, the swordless warrior?

Oh! And why didn't I get an answer on whether or not they should read the bills?

Ogami, should they read the bills they vote on?

[mcgrawtim123]

Hey P00lman, did the Obama visit to S. Korea go well? What do the Koreans think of the US? Do they still want our troops in their country?

[p00lman]

In order . . .

1. I don't know.

2. They generally like the US, but more as a source of entertainment than a political entity. They're less warm on trading issues.

3. I would say the general populous doesn't, but I think members of the Korean military are thankful for the extra security, although they'd like to minimize it gradually.

[mrethrift]

Teabagging with Bravo is productive?

[p00lman]

You seem very interested in teabagging now.

[mrethrift]

You seem interested in me being interested in teabagging. Go find BRAVO...but tie my shoe first bitch hehehe. You got burned again today!

[wgraves4786]

Yes I have to agree upon that. For the war on drugs simply does not work, + could+should be reconsidered. MJ+Coke should have been legalized in the 80's, 30 yrs. later +still no medicine.

End the drug war, free our sols, +move on with your lifes. pwz already britt. tu

[mrethrift]

Anything addictive is ok in moderation.

[x11115]

the fda made a law that only a drug can be used to treat or cure a disease. this is making a complete and protected monopoly for the drug industry. they even promote the books the doctors read to get an MD. The doctors are just educated sales people or more plainly put pharmaceutical drug pushers. Marijuana is against the law because it's a plant they can't patent and can be easily grown in your back yard.

[x11115]

if your an adult you shouldn't have to have approval of what you put in your body voluntarily. Note, the FDA allows fluoride doping of the public which is unconsented medicating. In Germany this is considered a violation of human rights / against the law and should be considered against the law here. What people don't understand is the FDA is controlled by the drug industry. of 12 of the last 22 fda commissioners went to work for the drug industry with million dollar salaries

[music1991mv]

hell yeah i'm in

[dmgoddard]

I think you should kill some puppies. To demonstrate for freedom and private property rights. If anyone gets turned off by what you're doing, they're Statists and weren't going to get it anyway.

Kill puppies!!

[rataMacue22]

lmao, d

[Silveracity]

It's okay to kill cows, pigs and chickens, but you draw the line at puppies?

[hibraisil]

puppies don't make good bacon.

[Dewdaahman]

one of the first "globalization" efforts was the USA joining the rest of the world in making Herion,Opeium,Cocaine, Weed, hash,etc illegal via the Harrison Act of 1914.. prior to that the aforementioned drugs were legal.. you can smoke weed in the USA if you have a marajuana Stamp, which are in Washington,DC, but they are not giving them out.. they basically say "you can smoke weed if you have a stamp, but we're not gonna give you one.."

[intrepgun]

i don't think alcohol is the best choice to mix with other currently prohibited 'drugs'. i understand the idea, and i believe it would call attention, but it's a matter of separating drugs by harm- as is being done by scientists, including those who report directly to government agencies and officials. that being said, i think the most harmful drugs [meth, H, etc] should have more attention because those people need serious HELP, not jail time.

[m3030078]

dude u shood call g4

[dtmbcorp]

Good! People need to stop being afraid of drugs and accept that they are as natural to the human experience as something like sex. You need to be careful, and most importantly you need to be educated. Who cares what a particular person does to feel good if no one is being hurt. No victim, no crime. Right guys? We don't lock skydivers up for putting their life in danger for a thrill! Wake up! Visit the website of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition for more information.