Cardwell Nuckols' Science, Spirituality & 12-Step Facilitated Recovery

[Hammersley1967]

God is a concept by which we measure our pain?

[Hammersley1967]

poo poos?

[Hammersley1967]

Eve, I empathize with your concerns, but the Australian government has a strictly "hands off" approach to Aboriginal substance abusers - particularly the solvent sniffers.

You see its an "Assimilate or Annihilate" (the other AA) policy in Australia when it comes to the Abos.

And the kids who are plied with alcohol - night after night - by there parents?

Well, the little snot-nosed bastards love it!

Indeed, its a well established cultural nuance of the underclasses...

Who are we to preach?

[Hammersley1967]

[1]

"Ham: If you emphazie, then 'super-(empha)size' it and become involved, for the good of mankind, for your future generations. Or, are you leaving those problems to your children and grandchildren to deal with?"

Eve: What I meant by "empathise" is that I empathise with YOU and YOUR concerns. However, consistent with the Australian governments "White Upwardly Mobile Social Policy", this empathy in NO way extents to the Aboriginals or even the white under-classes.

[Hammersley1967]

[2]

The intent of the policy is to give the children open access to as much drugs and alcohol as they want, so that by the time they are sexually mature, they are either dead or too cognitively damaged to procreate.

Hence, there wont be any "future generations" for our "children or grandchildren to deal with"...

Theyll all be extinguished from the greater population...

Thus, the gene will be eradicated forever...

[Hammersley1967]

Unlike the (unwise) plans that you have for you children and grandchildren - "The Two Richies" - I do not want my progeny to be rubbing shoulders with these dirty, filthy, lying cheating, scum-filled, putrid, festering, puss buckets...

The Government views them as the rabid vermin that they are and wisely disposes of them likewise...

Would you want your lovely niece Gina to be consorting with these subhumans?

[Hammersley1967]

"a power greater than themselves that does not want them to be "rabid vermin", and hopefully they may come to belive it."

They wont believe anything - theyll all be DEAD!!!

[zooromeo]

Hows the weather in Texas ?

[zooromeo]

You are a racist, narrow minded old coot... To think that the Australian Government encourages this behaviour is not only ignorant - its childish and ridiculously irrational. But then again Godlyretardspam is one of your best friends..

BTW - Why is it that whenever I mke a sound, logical point to you in either a comment or a PM - you ignore it ? Hmmmmmm

I bet you mourn the lost of George W Bush too....

[Hammersley1967]

I think it also explains the second step...

Actually, it demonstrates the first and second step working (or in this case NOT working) in tandem...

[evet45]

An Overview of Genetic Influences in Alcoholism, by M A Schucket.

[Godlyguitarman]

That is a great way to explain what have to happen before anyone can receive help. Alot of people won't get out of the way so they can get help. I must say I was that way until I was so beaten I could only follow what they suggested. Also I see many that mistake pride and ego for confidence.

[mikeblamedenial]

NPD occurs in about 1% of the population, while the addictive behaviors addressed by steppism occur in 5-8%, depending on the source. Treating alcoholics as narcissists is, therefore, erroneous at least 80% of the time. Some science, eh?

[mikeblamedenial]

You cited it as a basis for your position, not me. I am quite a pragmatic fellow, while you seem like a magical thinker. Your doubts as to my legitimacy are of no concern, nor are your straw man and adhominem substitutes for objective debate.

[mikeblamedenial]

@evet45  More falsely-limited nonsense.

[mikeblamedenial]

When you stop making false claims based on bogus, or non-existent studies and the work of steppologists, perhaps people will take you seriously. In the meantime, you true believers can continue to congratulate on another, patting each other on the back, mired in cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias.

[dsm4810]

Great discussion on how the 12-Step programs mesh with quantum physics!