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  • Grace that you will be atoned for something that that god created in the first place? You can't point out the insanity behind that line of reasoning?

    It's like if I were to dig a pit and fill it with razor sharp spikes and then waited for groups of people to walk towards it. Then I yell out to them to watch out for the pit but if they happen to fall in, they did because they wouldn't listen to my warnings. But yet they call me a loving person who constructs pits for people to fall into?

  • Religious vomit!

  • ROTFLMAO! Religious folks are so wacky!

  • Religions are inherited or accepted emotionally. Both are erroneous paths in the search for truth. Google Doe’s Account.

  • what a crap!

  • Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

  • Im gonna go out on a limb and say that god wasn't exactly a humanitarian. Mass murdering the earth isn't the coolest thing you can do being the creator. Was jesus supposed to be the apology?

  • "Nevertheless, I stand by my assertion that you are really and quite completely in control of those things of ultimate importance," said Elder Samuelson, who is also a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' First Quorum of Seventy.

    Elder Samuelson was joined by his wife, Sharon, who encouraged students to "be strong and true to the word of God you believe to be true today."

  • BYU students were told Tuesday that they are in charge of the most important things in their lives.

    Speaking at the regular back-to-school devotional in the Marriott Center, BYU President Cecil Samuelson told students that things often don't turn out the way one expects.

  • The two Nephite prophets were bound in heavy cords and beaten repeatedly. Food and water -- and even clothing -- were withheld. "After they had thus suffered for many days" -- when the nightmare became endless -- Alma asked the timeless question: "How long shall we suffer these great afflictions, O Lord?" (Alma 14:17-26).

  • After seeing the tortured death of fellow-believers, Alma and Amulek suffered in a foul prison. Their captors taunted, "If ye have such great power why do ye not deliver yourselves? And many such things did they say unto them, gnashing their teeth upon them, and spitting upon them."

  • "How long, Lord?" wrote the Psalmist. "Wilt thou hide thyself for ever?" (Psalms 89:46).

    "O Lord," wept Habakkuk, "how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear!" (Habakkuk 1:2).

  • Hansen was actually on the founding board for Loaves & Fishes, but Major emphasized that he was not involved in turning down Manning's request to serve.

    As for that person, Major said, "We are close friends now."

  • Later that year, Hansen accompanied Major to a convention in Salt Lake City where they visited the Utah Food Bank and the church's humanitarian services. They also attended a performance of the Tabernacle Choir, after which Hansen turned to Major and said, "You must be very proud of your church."

  • "The elders need to be recognized," Major said, adding that their service over 16 years totals more than 13,000 hours. "They have been nominated many times and won the county's Volunteer Group of the Year award. They could give it to them every year if they wanted to."

    As chairman of the search committee in 2006, Major hired Dr. Carl Hansen, a retiring Episcopal minister, as executive director of the Food Bank.

  • Rachelle described their segment of the documentary as providing the "comic relief." The quintuplets were shown eating, playing and participating in the "Quint Olympics" -- which included events like shot put, hurdles and high jump.

    In another scene, the quintuplets were put into timeout, but weren't upset at all. In fact they were -- as Rachelle laughingly described it -- "having a party."

  • Rachelle felt this aspect was important to include in any depiction of families with multiples. "People shouldn't have a distorted view. They need to know that there are real risks involved (in giving birth to multiples)," she said.

    The Wilkinson's story, however, was less drama-ridden. On July 31, 2007, Jayson and Rachelle broke the national record for the collective birth weight of their quintuplets at 21 pounds, 7.2 ounces. Today all five are healthy, happy toddlers.

  • The following words from the song, "America The Beautiful", have always stirred my soul because of the truths they contain which can strengthen us as individuals, families and nations. The words are these:

    Confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law

  • Even though we live in challenging times, what a glorious time it is to be alive! There has never been a better time to champion the family than now! We have never needed strong families more than now!! And indeed the strength of our nations has never depended upon the strength of our families more than right now!!

  • It's been such a joy for my husband and me to be with you at this Fifth World Congress on Families. We are fellow workers and warriors for the family and we have enjoyed meeting and learning from so many of you. Your grand desires and your stellar commitment to the natural family have strengthened our own resolves.

  • Following is the complete text of a talk given by Sister Wendy Watson Nelson at the World Congress of Families V in Amsterdam, Netherlands, on Aug. 12, 2009.

  • Because all people must be reconciled to God in order to be saved, he, in his goodness and grace, has provided a Mediator for them.

    Paul told us:

    There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. [1 Timothy 2:56]

    To this we add: If there were no Mediator, we could never be reconciled to the Father, and hence there would be no salvation.

  • Recently retired, Sister Watts, of the Sandy River Ward, Mount Hood Oregon Stake, taught elementary school for 20 years after her five children were grown.

  • Michele and Steve Watts had squared everything away and were working on their mission papers when Sister Watts got a phone call from American Mothers, Inc., asking if they'd mind postponing their mission if she was chosen as Oregon's Mother of the Year, which she was. It was tough, she said, but they realized being Mother of the Year was another kind of mission.

  • We are going to keep the environment clean by sweeping the street, clearing the drains, painting and marking roads, cleaning markets and other public places, including hospitals, health centres, police stations, old peoples home, motherless babies homes, among others, he informed.

  • The Mormons in Africa has dedicated one day in August, when the male members and adults in the church dedicate three hours of their time to voluntarily do some service projects in the area they live in.

  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons), over the weekend, embarked on a clean up exercise, which began from the Mallam Junction traffic lights, through the market, to the Sakaman Junction traffic lights, as part of its quota to keeping the environment clean.

  • Elder Joseph Chung, Area Seventy for central and southern Taiwan, traveled to the region and met with government and local priesthood leaders to discuss plans for further Church assistance. Elder Chung was assigned by the Asia Area presidency to direct the Church's relief efforts in Taiwan.

  • The mud left behind was 3 to 5 feet deep in places, reported humanitarian missionary Elder Dennis Sparrow.

    President Hoer said, "Our elder and sister missionaries have helped residents clean over 40 homes and businesses in the township of Qishan the first week after the storm."

  • Missionaries of the Taiwan Taichung mission helped in the early stages of clean up in Qishan, Taiwan.

  • Dozens of missionaries from the Taichung mission, along with hundreds of members from throughout Taiwan, put on "Mormon Helping Hands" vests and gave several days of service cleaning mud from homes and businesses. The clean-up work will continue for weeks to come.

  • The point here I believe is not to critizice one's beliefs. We must respect a person's right to freedom of speach and freedom of thought. My only gripe with religion is that it takes itself WAAAY too seriously and therefore many believers think that they can tell us what we should believe and everything outside of their sphere is wrong. That to me is a complete lack of respect and if we can just learn to have our own belief system without interfering with others, we'd have a much better society.

  • Religion. Making fairy tales creepy for 5,000 years.

  • i just loled, nice

  • praise white god

  • Elder Oaks of a member of the Quorum of the twelve Apostles of Jesus Christ gave this talk in the Apr 2006 General Conference.The talk is entitled "All Me Everywhere"

  • The goddamn mormons are you serious? Honestly how can heaven be better than life here? Will I get to drink whiskey with jesus?

  • "Honestly how can heaven be better than life here?"

    you have a LOT to learn!

  • Then explain to me what you can do in heaven that makes it soooo much better than life here.

  • we will start with the simplest.

    In heaven we get to be around other good people. Those that would hurt us are far removed.

  • How do you know who is in heaven? What about murderers and rapists who convert and repent? Those aren't good people I want to be around.

  • **What about murderers and rapists who convert and repent?**

    we call those ANTImormons, and NO, I do NOT want to be around them either.

  • So only mormons get to go to heaven?

  • EVERYONE has the opportunity to go to heaven!

    NO need for you to play games!

  • Isn't heaven just a theory?

  • you are asking if ONE word is a theory??

    maybe you need to look up the definition of theory??

  • Why don't you ask that questions to people that are suffering in 3rd world countries.

    And if you have a fulfilling life because of whiskey, I truly feel sorry for you.

  • Why don't you help those people in third world countries instead of using their misery to promote your agenda?

  • Excuse me?

    What the hell are you even talking about?

    I do donate my money to help less fortunate people.

    Using the misery of 3rd world countries to promote "my" agenda?

    What agenda would that be?

    If promoting aid to the impoverished and helping less fortunate people is somehow a bad thing, an "agenda" well then fuck me.

    Take a hike you loser. Seriously, go hate on nazi's or terrorists or someone else who is trying to make the world a worse place instead of a better place.

  • Hitler was catholic...he didn't make the world a better place did he?

  • Go have some more Jack Daniels. In fact indulge yourself beyond your body's capability to handle and drink yourself right down to hell you vermin.

  • Thats not very Christ-like.

  • Don't lecture me, bozo. I don't give a crap what you say or think.

  • I think I'd rather go to hell actually. Atheists seem to be more fun that theists. I imagine heaven to be one of those dinner parties full of people that you pretend to like, but really you think are boring.

  • "Atheists seem to be more fun that theists"

    communism was a blast. I especially liked the variety of clothes offered.

    I guess there is usually plenty of vodka though!

  • Communism is communism, atheism is atheism. You can be an atheist and not be a cmmunist, and you can even be a religious person and still be a communist.

    And I'm serious, there is a whole movement of catholic communists in Latin-America who espouse "liberation theology".

    Hugo Chavez, for example, is a religious person of sorts, mixing catholicism and indigenous animism, and he's a communist.

  • "Communism is communism, atheism is atheism"

    and NEVER the two shall meet?

    What was the OFFICIAL state religion of Communism?

    time to do some research!

  • Of course they meet. But since atheists who are not communists tend not be assholes, and communists who are not atheists tend to be assholes, what conclusion can we draw?

    Communism = asshole, independent of atheism.

  • "What was the OFFICIAL state religion of Communism?"

    Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is a characteristic. I am an atheist, but that is not my religion, my religion is buddhism. I am a buddhist who just so happens to be an atheist. Even if you are just someone who never gives religion much thought, and don't have any particular belief concerning gods, you are an atheist. So atheism in itself is not even a belief system or philosophy, it's just a characteristic.

  • "Atheism is not a religion."

    you are ARGUING from a point of IGNORANCE!

  • Did you not read the rest of that comment. I explained why it's not a religion, it's not even a worldview. Buddhism is a religion and a worldview, secularism is a worldview, communism is anotherworldview, atheism is just a characteristic that these worldviews share in common.

  • "Did you not read the rest of that comment."

    play whatever games you would like. the point as I previously stated in an indirect way was

    What was the OFFICIAL state religion of Communism?

    the USSR listed their OFFICIAL state religion as ATHEISM.

    You can argue semantics ALL you want. These are the FACTS!

  • The USSR listed their official rleigion as atheism? So what? Who gave them the authority to define atheism as a religion? If you wanna define it as a religion, show us the tenets, the rituals to be observed, etc... don't just spew out nonsense.

  • "The USSR listed their official rleigion as atheism? So what?"

    right, so there is NO correlation between communism and atheism.......

  • Hey, omiolo, guess who the FIRST Marxist-style communists were?

    Hint: they PREDATED Karl Marx by some 1¾ MILLENNIA!

    Marx summarized his system as follows: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

    Now compare Acts 2:44-45. Almost VERBATIM the same!

    That not enough for ya? Look up Acts 4:31-37. In this passage, we see it described again, AND see an EXAMPLE of how it worked!

    That continues across the chapter boundary into Acts 5:1-11, in which GOD ENFORCES it!!

  • "guess who the FIRST Marxist-style communists were?"

    please let me know who advocated violent revolutions by the masses??

  • Marx thought that violent overthrow may be needed to IMPLEMENT Marxism, but it is not in and of itself PART OF Marxism, any more than the Revolutionary War is PART OF Capitalism.

    Communism is simply an economic system in which property is owned in common (thus the name) instead of privately. There are many variants, and what the very early Christians practiced most definitely does qualify as a variant of communism.

    Luke outright says: "They held all things in common." Communism BY DEFINITION!

  • "Communism is simply an economic system in which property is owned in common (thus the name) instead of privately"

    by FORCE or FREELY??

  • Doesn't matter to the definition, but since you bring it up, how about you read Acts 5:1-11 again and ask Annanias and Saphira if they experienced any coercion?

    Oh, wait, you can't! God through Peter struck them dead on the spot for not participating honestly in this COMMUNIST system!

    I really don't see why you're having such a hard time with this, omiolo. You ARE LDS, right? Read up on Joseph Smith and his Law of Consecration. It, too, is COMMUNISM, and is based on the Acts system.

  • "Doesn't matter to the definition,"

    in your world of DISTORTION.

  • No, in my world of using proper dictionary definitions of terms.

    You're going by a DISTORTION that was perpetrated by Joe McCarthy back during the Cold War. Yes, SOVIET Communism was bad. CHINESE Communism is bad.

    But that doesn't mean that ALL communism is bad, just like not all Christianity is bad just because of the Lord's Resistance Army in Northern Uganda that kidnaps kids and turns the boys into killing machine soldiers and rapes the girls (search "Night Commuters" here on YouTube™).

  • "doesn't mean that ALL communism is bad"

    PLEASE give me a GOOD communism, and NOT just on paper.

  • Even if that "paper" is the historical record of the early Christians in the Holy Bible or the writings (which you believe to be equally inspired) of the Prophet Joseph Smith?

    Because I already gave you one.

  • what paper?

  • Test.

  • Short memory, much?

    Just yesterday, you asked me to show a GOOD communism, and NOT just on paper.

    THAT paper. The Bible (including the Book of Acts), and the Doctrine & Covenants (including Section 104 and others, which mention and describe the United Order, a specific plan for living the Law of Consecration which is also explicitly mentioned and described in D&C) are generally printed on it. Papyrus scrolls are kinda old hat these days.

  • communism involves FORCE!

    living in a commune does NOT mean communism.

    Just because the roots are similar does NOT mean they are equal.

  • I never said that living in a commune means communism. Communism is the sharing of property in common, among the members of a community (commune if you will) or society. Nothing more, nothing less.

    It does NOT require force to be communism. It is true that most implementations to date have used force to varying degrees (even the one in Acts, as I pointed out: God via Peter struck a married couple DEAD for lying about their participation!). That does NOT make force a REQUIREMENT to BE communism.

  • "God loves all his daughters and sons, his brothers and sisters, but if you don't believe in him, you're going to hell for eternity!"

  • And your a dumbass for believing in fairy tales.

  • and you need to figure out the difference between your and you're

  • My grammar may not be up to par, but I can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Jesus and Santa Clause are no different.

  • Yea I knew that already, when did I ever say they weren't?

    Just because I took a shot at your spelling doesn't mean I don't agree with you otherwise

  • Oh, my bad, I didn't know you were being sarcastic. Hard to tell over the net, but good to know you don't believe in fairy tales.

  • How can you perpetuate such nonsense?

  • I love messages of love.

    The Book of Mormon testifies of the love of God.

    God loves ALL, even if ALL doesn't love God.

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