Each Corps earn there places... I have been involved for a long time and to be honest with you Crown has a great show with some level of inconsistency , Cavaliers they are 90 % drill and everything else follows,,, Cadets chuck a baritone in Atlanta, I got to see first hand and BD show is so clean..... All these corps deserve a standing ovation at the end of each show.. they work so hard, we are here to enjoy them and let the judging be done by the experts... <3
"DCI politics" do not exist. Fans just look for something to blame when their favorite corps doesn't win, so they assume that all DCI judges are corrupt and base scores on these "politics", instead of accepting that the winning group was just plain better. Unless their favorite corps does win. Then suddenly the politics of DCI go away and are never mentioned by fans again. Just until the other group wins again, that is.
BD's successful at what they do for a reason. And it's not politics.
In addition...the fact that most drum corps FANS find the 80's and 90's to be "the golden years, hell the platinum years speaks volumes that we remember those years...and boy do we remember those years well...
clearly youve been watching more dr phil shows than DCI----just my opinion. my son is in his 3rd year---he gets it and so do all the other kids---my point is---that no matter what you think---YES---theres politics involved----we can agree to disagree
It's never about the score on the piece of paper. 20 years from now, no one will remember what score they received, nor will they care. What they will remember, though, is the most important thing: the memories forged with their corps. They will remember their hard work and commitment, working in the sun for months, sweating in a living hell. For what? To perform. If you have never marched, you will never know the feeling. The adrenaline, the exuberance. That alone is reason enough to be in it.
@embuck Yes, but if you spy a kid wearing an old corps jacket, are you going to go running up to him and say "You know, it was quite a shame that 'so and so corps' won that year" or are you going to say "I was involved with that drum corps, too, when I was your age. It was the best experience of my life." ?
@SweetlyDissonant, We all go thru the same thing, no matter what "corps" you marched. We're all a much bigger family. However, this activity, is not Drum Corps, but merely a shell of what it was. But, that is merely symantics. My point was merely to "beg to differ" about the concept that 20 years from now no one will remember"...as you probably are aware 20 years from now this activity probably won't exist. I know the activity was much more prominent 20yrs ago.
@embuck You're right when you point out that drum corps has evolved over time. That doesn't mean it's not drum corps, though. The corps' musical venue has changed also. And for the better, I believe. I don't think the audience would appreciate hearing Gregorian chants out on the field. And in 20 years, who knows? Perhaps we'll have three-dimensional dot sheets. All I'm saying is, people don't realize the value of involvement in drum corps anymore. It's about the experience, not the score.
@SweetlyDissonant I concur with the fact it is just that, "we have the shared experience" of marching DCI. As far as it being better, I have to disagree, but that is my opinion, and to be honest...I don't believe the activity will make it 20 years from now. at the rate they are going it will cost a kid $15,000 to march. The value of Drum Corps is truly there, but the activity has changed to exactly, it is only about the kids at this point, because the activity /essence of Drum corps is DEAD!
@Ibanez3789 And I don't expect everyone to agree with me, you've your own opinions. But it's unfortunate that you care more about the score than the corps experience.
@Ibanez3789 I'm a competitive person, by nature. Besides, the hornline hated our staff, and the staff hated us. Thanks to that, lots of rifts were formed between corps members. Plus, I made the mistake of starting a relationship on tour, and she would NOT stop bitching about everything... I'm sure lots of people can relate to that one ;)
i appreciate your insight-and yes my son loves his corp. i did ask him if he considered BD? his response---"i wanna earn my ring mom-not have it given to me" true BD is clearly good, but seriously, you dont think the judges favor them? Crown clearly won 2009-and cavies had an amazing show last year--both corps in my opinion far better--btw--all the corps work hard and have skill
@koalababy0220 Who knows if they'll win this year, it's still a three horse race. I don't beiieve BD wins because of politics. They win because they have the staff and talent to know how to do it. Having an "easier" show doesn't mean that the members are less talented. When I look at BD, I see how mature of a group they are too. Like it or not, I think they're the most mature corps out there. I also believe that they are one of the best corps on the field this year.
@koalababy0220 What reason could there be for judges to favor a single corp, let alone BD? Why not the Cadets, Cavaliers, or Carolina Crown? Is it because they win a lot? Well, the judges are responsaible for that, but at what point did they start consciously start making them win in accordance to your conspiracy theory? The interesting thing is, when BD wins a lot, it's politics, but when the Cavaliers win 5x in 7 years, it's just because they're awesome.
seriously, so over the politics of drum corp. blue devils again? come on---what a waste of $3000 to send my son to dci. next year bd, how bout doing your show on bunk beds?
@koalababy0220 its never a waste to send you kid to DCI whether the corps he's in wins or not, its about the experience. and blue devils win because of their hard work and skill not because judges favor them. maybe get your sun to audition for BD next season?
@koalababy0220 I'm sure your son appreciates you thinking his marching is a waste of money. There are no politics. Just good judges, bad judges, good corps, bad corps, good nights, bad nights. When you aren't on top it's easy to blame everyone else besides the one person you should. Yourself.
Each Corps earn there places... I have been involved for a long time and to be honest with you Crown has a great show with some level of inconsistency , Cavaliers they are 90 % drill and everything else follows,,, Cadets chuck a baritone in Atlanta, I got to see first hand and BD show is so clean..... All these corps deserve a standing ovation at the end of each show.. they work so hard, we are here to enjoy them and let the judging be done by the experts... <3
NicholeLovesYou1818 6 months ago
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NicholeLovesYou1818 6 months ago
there is no losing in Drum Corps...just winning and not winning...if you have ever marched DCI...you would know that
dynrgal 6 months ago
That being said...winning is nice ;)
dynrgal 6 months ago
"DCI politics" do not exist. Fans just look for something to blame when their favorite corps doesn't win, so they assume that all DCI judges are corrupt and base scores on these "politics", instead of accepting that the winning group was just plain better. Unless their favorite corps does win. Then suddenly the politics of DCI go away and are never mentioned by fans again. Just until the other group wins again, that is.
BD's successful at what they do for a reason. And it's not politics.
apachedann1 6 months ago 2
In addition...the fact that most drum corps FANS find the 80's and 90's to be "the golden years, hell the platinum years speaks volumes that we remember those years...and boy do we remember those years well...
embuck 6 months ago
clearly youve been watching more dr phil shows than DCI----just my opinion. my son is in his 3rd year---he gets it and so do all the other kids---my point is---that no matter what you think---YES---theres politics involved----we can agree to disagree
koalababy0220 6 months ago
@koalababy0220 Well in that case your son will never deserve any thing he wins while marching. You know, because of the politics.
hboyce 6 months ago
It's never about the score on the piece of paper. 20 years from now, no one will remember what score they received, nor will they care. What they will remember, though, is the most important thing: the memories forged with their corps. They will remember their hard work and commitment, working in the sun for months, sweating in a living hell. For what? To perform. If you have never marched, you will never know the feeling. The adrenaline, the exuberance. That alone is reason enough to be in it.
SweetlyDissonant 6 months ago 4
@SweetlyDissonant Actually we still complain about 20 years ago...LOL...it's Drum Corps for crying out loud! We complain about alot of years.
embuck 6 months ago
@embuck Yes, but if you spy a kid wearing an old corps jacket, are you going to go running up to him and say "You know, it was quite a shame that 'so and so corps' won that year" or are you going to say "I was involved with that drum corps, too, when I was your age. It was the best experience of my life." ?
SweetlyDissonant 6 months ago
@SweetlyDissonant, We all go thru the same thing, no matter what "corps" you marched. We're all a much bigger family. However, this activity, is not Drum Corps, but merely a shell of what it was. But, that is merely symantics. My point was merely to "beg to differ" about the concept that 20 years from now no one will remember"...as you probably are aware 20 years from now this activity probably won't exist. I know the activity was much more prominent 20yrs ago.
embuck 6 months ago
@embuck You're right when you point out that drum corps has evolved over time. That doesn't mean it's not drum corps, though. The corps' musical venue has changed also. And for the better, I believe. I don't think the audience would appreciate hearing Gregorian chants out on the field. And in 20 years, who knows? Perhaps we'll have three-dimensional dot sheets. All I'm saying is, people don't realize the value of involvement in drum corps anymore. It's about the experience, not the score.
SweetlyDissonant 6 months ago
@SweetlyDissonant I concur with the fact it is just that, "we have the shared experience" of marching DCI. As far as it being better, I have to disagree, but that is my opinion, and to be honest...I don't believe the activity will make it 20 years from now. at the rate they are going it will cost a kid $15,000 to march. The value of Drum Corps is truly there, but the activity has changed to exactly, it is only about the kids at this point, because the activity /essence of Drum corps is DEAD!
embuck 6 months ago
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@SweetlyDissonant Actually we still complain about 20 years ago...LOL...it's Drum Corps for crying out loud! We complain about alot of years
embuck 6 months ago
@SweetlyDissonant As a former member of a corps that got screwed by the judges more times than I can remember, I completely disagree with you.
Ibanez3789 6 months ago
@Ibanez3789 And I don't expect everyone to agree with me, you've your own opinions. But it's unfortunate that you care more about the score than the corps experience.
SweetlyDissonant 6 months ago
@Ibanez3789 I'm a competitive person, by nature. Besides, the hornline hated our staff, and the staff hated us. Thanks to that, lots of rifts were formed between corps members. Plus, I made the mistake of starting a relationship on tour, and she would NOT stop bitching about everything... I'm sure lots of people can relate to that one ;)
Ibanez3789 6 months ago
nice try
koalababy0220 6 months ago
i appreciate your insight-and yes my son loves his corp. i did ask him if he considered BD? his response---"i wanna earn my ring mom-not have it given to me" true BD is clearly good, but seriously, you dont think the judges favor them? Crown clearly won 2009-and cavies had an amazing show last year--both corps in my opinion far better--btw--all the corps work hard and have skill
koalababy0220 6 months ago
@koalababy0220 Who knows if they'll win this year, it's still a three horse race. I don't beiieve BD wins because of politics. They win because they have the staff and talent to know how to do it. Having an "easier" show doesn't mean that the members are less talented. When I look at BD, I see how mature of a group they are too. Like it or not, I think they're the most mature corps out there. I also believe that they are one of the best corps on the field this year.
DrumCorpsTube 6 months ago 3
@koalababy0220 What reason could there be for judges to favor a single corp, let alone BD? Why not the Cadets, Cavaliers, or Carolina Crown? Is it because they win a lot? Well, the judges are responsaible for that, but at what point did they start consciously start making them win in accordance to your conspiracy theory? The interesting thing is, when BD wins a lot, it's politics, but when the Cavaliers win 5x in 7 years, it's just because they're awesome.
americasnextopm0del 6 months ago 2
@koalababy0220 What corp does your son even march and what instrument
nithun360 6 months ago
seriously, so over the politics of drum corp. blue devils again? come on---what a waste of $3000 to send my son to dci. next year bd, how bout doing your show on bunk beds?
koalababy0220 6 months ago
@koalababy0220 its never a waste to send you kid to DCI whether the corps he's in wins or not, its about the experience. and blue devils win because of their hard work and skill not because judges favor them. maybe get your sun to audition for BD next season?
forrest822 6 months ago
@koalababy0220 I'm sure your son appreciates you thinking his marching is a waste of money. There are no politics. Just good judges, bad judges, good corps, bad corps, good nights, bad nights. When you aren't on top it's easy to blame everyone else besides the one person you should. Yourself.
hboyce 6 months ago
since when did cavies have 4 drum majors????
Hector95100 6 months ago
@Hector95100 The guys with the white capes are the drum majors, and the guys with the black capes are the guard captains.
mashdoctor 6 months ago
@Hector95100 Drum Major, Asst Drum Major, Guard Captain, Asst. Guard Captain.
taylorryh 6 months ago
Nothing worse than a tie. Come on DCI!
DrummerMrJ 6 months ago