The Orange Line ones have not retired yet. Eighteen of the Blue Line ones are still at the Orient Heights yard, kept in operable condition, but are not normally used. They are reserved for emergencies. They last saw revenue service in November of 2009.
No, these trains are customized for the MBTA just as Toronto's H series cars are customized for Toronto. AFAIK, there is no such thing as a standardized heavy rail subway car in North America.
Siemens and the T had no choice. The Blue Line's tunnels have very tight clearances, especially the Bowdoin loop. The line was once a streetcar line, so that's why the cars are so small and clearances are tight.
Have you even seen the new Blue Line cars? They look nothing like the Hawker Siddeley cars except for the dimensions. They actually look very similar to the 01800s on the Red Line. If you want to see the Blue Line with bigger and different cars, I suggest you donate a few million dollars to the T so they can widen the curve at State St. and build a new crossover just before Gov't Center.
I've noticed that on the front of these cars in the window, there are these display things with numbers in them that light up, and there are buttons below each of the numbers. It looks like the numbers flip. Can you tell me exactly what those number things are for?
what did they do with all the old hawker siddeleys?
TheDylanJoyce 1 year ago
@TheDylanJoyce
The Orange Line ones have not retired yet. Eighteen of the Blue Line ones are still at the Orient Heights yard, kept in operable condition, but are not normally used. They are reserved for emergencies. They last saw revenue service in November of 2009.
MBTAguy 1 year ago
is that A H Series train here in toronto we have the Hawker h5 h4 and h6
g4tech 4 years ago
No, these trains are customized for the MBTA just as Toronto's H series cars are customized for Toronto. AFAIK, there is no such thing as a standardized heavy rail subway car in North America.
MBTAguy 4 years ago
The Blue Line 0600 and Orange Line 01200 cars were based on the PATH PA3 cars, built in 1972 (also by Hawker Siddeley).
R36Redbird 4 years ago
Oh yeah, The "T" has ordered some cars for the Blue Line that are-- get this-- BUILD IN THE SAME STYLE AS THE Hawker/Siddeley 0600 CARS!!!!
videonut33 4 years ago
Siemens and the T had no choice. The Blue Line's tunnels have very tight clearances, especially the Bowdoin loop. The line was once a streetcar line, so that's why the cars are so small and clearances are tight.
MBTAguy 4 years ago
"NO CHOICE"?
what you have told me is the one true fact on what makes the T, well, the T.
videonut33 4 years ago
Have you even seen the new Blue Line cars? They look nothing like the Hawker Siddeley cars except for the dimensions. They actually look very similar to the 01800s on the Red Line. If you want to see the Blue Line with bigger and different cars, I suggest you donate a few million dollars to the T so they can widen the curve at State St. and build a new crossover just before Gov't Center.
MBTAguy 4 years ago
ouch :(
videonut33 3 years ago
I've noticed that on the front of these cars in the window, there are these display things with numbers in them that light up, and there are buttons below each of the numbers. It looks like the numbers flip. Can you tell me exactly what those number things are for?
ssetta 4 years ago
Those numbers are just the road numbers without the '01', so for example, a car is numbered 01300. The number board would read 300.
MBTAguy 4 years ago