Pakistan ISI LeT Mumbai Christina Fair on C Span Part 3

[YossiUK]

I can only pray that the callers to this show are completely unrepresentative of US opinion. Because if they are representative then the US has been consumed by the irrational, ideologically driven conspiracy mindset that has played such a part in fermenting self-destruction in many countries around the world. That would be a disaster for America.

[ZenChat]

I don't understand why Pakistan is so obsessed with spreading Terrorism

[The86uppal]

@ZenChat

India has occupied a huge part of land which belongs to Pakistan, that is called Kashmir. and whole world is silent on that issue. Pakistan has no other option to keep this issue alive other than supporting violent groups who keep on hurting India.

having said that i also accept that killing innocent civilians can never be justified. but countries often ignore this thing when their national interests are in danger.

[ZenChat]

@The86uppal : Do u realize that 44% of Kashmiris in POK / Azad Kashmir want independence from Pakistan...

What about Balochistan..... what about their desire for independence?

Have u shed tears for Hindu minorities in Pak.... who have been ethically cleansed from 22% in 1947 to <2% in 2010?

Have u wondered y even Arab nations favor India over Pakistan on the stance of Kashmir?

Have u shed tears for muslims in XiangJing, China?

[The86uppal]

@ZenChat

lol @ your 44% , when did you conduct that referendum ??

ever thought why Kashmiris dont want to be with India even after more than 60 years of your efforts?

and this is not about shedding crocodile tears, its the real blood we shed for kashmir.

and the last thing i heard about those arab nations was Saudi arabia who agreed to give Israel a safe passage to attack Iran. i dont expect any better from them in case of Pakistan.

[The86uppal]

@ZenChat

and i dont care about china shina at all, its there internal matter. unlike Kashmir which is an international issue and the biggest proof of this is the absence of international border between Azad Kashmir and Indian occupied Kashmir.

[ZenChat]

@The86uppal : If I show you the survey result .... (44% in POK want freedom and 43% in India Kashmir want freedom).... then will u agree to free POK?

What abt Balochistan?

What abt Hindu minorities who have been ethically cleansed in Pak... 22% to <2%?

Or r u a racist who cares only for Muslims and cares 2 hoots for other religions?

Then in that case, have u ever shed a tear for the 500,000 Muslims killed in Sudan?

TRUTH: U R A HYPOCRITE

[The86uppal]

@ZenChat

i care about kashmir only, because i consider it a part of Pakistan. its our own issue unlike other issues that can be described as internal issues of other sovereign countries.

and dont try to divert, stay on Kashmir, if you think kashmir is not Pakistan's issue then show me the international border between Pakistan and India in the region of kashmir if it exists. if you cant then think about why its absent.

[ZenChat]

@The86uppal : What abt Hindus in Pakistan..... do u not consider that to be an internal matter of Pakistan....

Or r u a racist who cares only abt Muslims in Pakistan?

[AshfaqDesigns]

@ZenChat Hello, i am ethnicly kashmiri. right now i have more right over kashmir than you could ever pretend to have. if you are so confident about kashmir then why not let a referendum take place which is the position of UN and Pakistan. this makes not pak the aggressor but indian military are the occupiers, terrorists and aggressors. you talked about Azad K, thank god we dont find any mass graves there.

[ZenChat]

@AshfaqDesigns : Guess what, we are Hindu Pandits from Srinagarl who had to migrate to Jammu becoz Hindus were being tagetted.

I don't want a referendum, coz if the military withdraws I know what will happen.... Hindus will be slaughtered.

1 Million Banglas were killed in a span of 8months and 10 Million rendered homeless in 1971.

Pakistan has been ethically cleansing Hindus in Pakistan for 60 years.

So no, no referendum. You people are extremists.

[AshfaqDesigns]

@ZenChat Congratulations! u recognise da fact ppl of kashmir r nt happy wid indians n want to kick them out (n at times they take their anger out on hindus), i wonder y cud that be? bcoz indians r occupying! so pundits arent safe there even though da army is there. its not really workin, is it? n thx for admittin u dnt wnt referendum bcoz u know u will lose kashmir LOL. n technically u dont care about what masses of kashmir want. but who cares u r the biggest democracy n we r the extremists LOL

[ZenChat]

@AshfaqDesigns : Firstly, I don't even want to compare ourselves with you folks...

A world of diff btwn us and you... and the world knows it ....

Ladhak - Pro-India

Jammu - Pro-India

Kargil - pro-India

Srinagar - Anti-India and Pro-Independence.

If the army withdraws, the death toll of minorities - Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists will run into millions. So no, no referendum.

You can keep spreading terrorism... after all so far it's hurt u more than us.

[AshfaqDesigns]

@ZenChat LOL everythin but srinagar pro india? it shows how much u know bout kashmir. da areas wich r pro india r nonmuslim majority places, n muslims outnumber da nonmuslims, its sirnagar n surrounding areas which are most populated, in general proindepenence n pro pak factions completely outnumber da pro indians, if u still think most r pro indian then let da referendum take place, they will choose india! n independence is acceptable by pak since even azad K isnt constitutionally part of pak

[ZenChat]

@AshfaqDesigns : U think u have a better understanding of the region I come from becoz that is what u want to believe....

the Truth is quite different. (news . bbc.co.uk / 2/hi/south_asia/10207909.stm )

The biggest proof - Guess who alerted the army in Kargil 1999? - Local Muslim population.

Guess why was Operation Gibraltor in 1965 a failure? - Indian Kashmiris did not support the Pak Army.

In any case, your obsession with India has done u more harm than good.... u deserve it.

[AshfaqDesigns]

@ZenChat i think u hav proved time n time again that u cant stand ur ground, i keep discussion on kashmir u start mentionin 1971, 1965 etc wen did i ever say everysingle muslim is proindepenence or pro pak. wen we talk bout kashmiris we r talkin bout millions of ppl. then comin up with some incidences here n there mean nothin. again u mentioned other wars, but there r still thousands of mujahideen fighting there, and guerilla warfare can never survive unless they have local populations support.

[ZenChat]

@AshfaqDesigns : LOL.... By your logic he opinion of the people who think like u matters and the opinion of people who do not think like u does not matter.

I guess that is why Balochis who desire freedom don't count.

I guess Banglas who wanted Freedom don't count.

I guess 44% of POK / Azad Kashmiris wanting freedom don't count.

I guess my opinion in my own country does not count according to u... LOL

I am glad I do not live in your "free & fair" world where minorities get ethnically cleansed

[AshfaqDesigns]

@ZenChat i dont know what youre talking about, read my previous message again

[ZenChat]

@AshfaqDesigns : I am sure u didn't.....