Ion propulsion

[randmnumber]

please touch ittttttttt

[T0B0KKE]

For moments I thought I was hearing lightsaber sounds.

[evil00701]

nice. I want to make one but i can't find good info on the web. if you still have any info or a video can you send me it.

[1000000volts]

i made one years ago and it didn't work after destroying it in anger i realized what the problem was ,the varnish i coated my coil with was conducting.thus no coil just a copper tube,if that makes sense,cheers nice stuff.

[TheBypasser]

@1000000volts that's sad, though I never had such an experience myself - epoxy works well, although for SSTC I used black coal-containing spray paint, felt risky but went out well somehow 0_0 Had a problem with some varnish however, one burned out in an arcover and started to conduct, it also broke down in an SGTC we built together with friends.

[Finiras]

what happens if you touch one of those lightning-like beams?

[KroniclyHigh]

That is NOT a ion engine

[mayorwest360]

wow he must had a blckout after that experament got a electricity bill saying i own this house

[SuperDisbelief]

How does it work? I only found some CEBNSORED videos about that. Is there secrets behind this?

[agentEE7]

faster, FASTER!!!! :D hahahaha!!!!

[kams912]

How fast can that electrical rotation effect become?

[bcha1354]

How you get it to do that.

[shankitar]

woow super nice! could you tell me were i can find information to build one like that?

[Erikster09]

I'd guess that's unhealthy to touch with your hand?

[yort002]

nice toy i want to make one can you make a video on how to make one i'll bet alot of ppls will build one if you show us how cheers mate

[TheBypasser]

@yort002 trolls. Google is your best friend - or you've never seen how many coiling resources are out there? And no, I'd never say "a lot" as everyone who actually needed already had time at least to put the search string in. If you care of the arrow itself - like I said, a needle with a bent tip and a counterweight, with some simple suspension. Nothing tricky at all.

[JesusxXxLovesxXxYou]

Um you do know that breathing in ionized gas can put you at major risk of throat and lung cancer

[TheBypasser]

no I don't and never cared and never will :P

[ElPolloLoco4330]

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd very much like to see a link to where you got this information. I'm interested in it.

[looksintolasers]

so you had the tesla coil and then what, stuck a bent wire on a hinge and hooked it up?

[TheBypasser]

xactly - bent wire with a counterweight suspended on a needle to make a somewhat lower friction.

[neons99]

what is this how do i make one

[miix999]

thats what you do when you're bored? o_o

[secoro60]

screw the critics, I like it and I don't care exactly what it is.

[noahpeltier]

It sounds just like a light saber!

[ChoatJor]

I'm pretty sure you didn't build that in "a few minutes"

[TheBypasser]

like I said, the rotor itself only of course )

[ahirria]

Wow

TheBypasser, could you please explain how you built that? Seriously, I would like to build one of theese.

Thanks

[Japipino]

touch it please

[adrastea99]

Pretty sure that isn't an ion engine

[TheBypasser]

Wonder who gave you the idea it could be the one? ;)

[adrastea99]

Probably the video title :/

[legendofzelda1106]

if you got the phase right, and scaled it up to a reasonable size, you could get rid of that inefficiency and make a nice vehicle. if you just scaled the current version up, you would just have a huge power drain and devastation.

[hardstyle905]

awesome

[quantumdude]

Can you do practictal work with it ?

Whats the input/output power ratio ?

A sweet vid, thanx...

[TheBypasser]

hehe in fact this one is a real piece if crap I dismantled long ago :D Was heating up like crazy and the primary finally melted at the end when I optimized the supply. I planned on rebuilding this one but decided to cut with tube stuff as it's too sucky when it comes down to performance and too hard to control as well, so is nothing but a nice firecracker.

[Coby19666]

And you make this because you are bored Ö

[Kevinite]

I'd be more amazed if the CD/VHS player in the background still works ! LOL

[TheBypasser]

that one was dead anyway so I dunno :P

However that mass-media crap is invulnerable lol - the coil I run nowdays still couldn't kill the stereo on the shelf, no matter it tried hard enough to make the pole that holds the shelf and has the radio antenna wrapped around it's top look like it got hit with a paint spray because of the hit marks, also hit the power cord a few times 0_0 Funny enough - a direct hit into some cooling fan's cord that was in the junkbox instantly fried the fan.

[Rbliv]

looks safe to me, lol

[1gunner1000]

cool

[killhazardx]

what do you do? electrical engineer?

[viperf50]

touch it

[TheBypasser]

Lol I did - and many times. Nice warm feeling of RF flowing through you, nothing else - and what did you expect?

[shinra18]

Methinks their cruelty belies their lack of intelligence. ;]

[joealtair3000]

can u make a video of u touching it

[TheBypasser]

no, as I see no point in that.

[grraquino]

chicken

[Beamshipcaptain]

The US AIr force Brass CLASSIFIED all references to 'electrogravitics', and TT Brown technology in 1955-1995.

I'll load up the footage from Nevada, 2000, our TT Brown demo in may, '08. To teach, and Inspire.

[mcbombs]

leave it on for an hour!

[suprememind]

How many rpm this reaches?

[TheBypasser]

Hell knows, not very much as the friction's pretty strong.

[suprememind]

Man, try to know it, I think this thing could reach a million rpms without friction and enough time of course.Try it inside a vacuum chamber and with neodymium floating magnets. Try it and post it pls man!

[suprememind]

Ok, vacuum chamber was pretty stupid since the non existent ionic wind :P

[blue1965mustang]

I think my left nut is on fire :) lol

[DeimosSaturn]

So that's why all the birds in my neighborhood suddenly dropped dead out of the trees...

[dusteroo]

I would love to know how to make this...

could you please supply some general instuctions? pleeaaaase? :o)

[TheBypasser]

nah that's a secret lol :)))

kiddin' :p

in order to do this you'll need a tesla coil with a long duty cycle and big average power, so the best choice would be some powerfull isstc or vttc. Make a terminal set on a low-friction suspension (I used a needle suspension). In order to set the spinning direction either give it an initial speed or bend the terminal end in the direction of the jet to flow (I used the second way). Now just put this onto the coil's top, fire up and enjoy ;)

[Tyranan]

I wouldnt do that dude, stay a safe distance,ion leaves radiated atoms in the air if you come to close to those for to long it could cause cancer.

[TheBypasser]

No they don't (believe me I now :) ). However you'd really better keep off of such things - I made another coil which is small but very powerfull and it's finished version burned all the skin on my right palm just because I used right hand to turn the knobs and put stuff like bulbs close to the coil. Field huh :)

[Tyranan]

wow, i dont know how u make this, or i dont have the right tools to do so. I read alot of stuff about ions, and stuff but I never figured out how to make this.

[Cajounman]

its half life all over!!! we are all gonna be slaves to zen!!! not really...but cool...

[shudunuk]

Where the hell is the Ion Propulsion, All I see is tesla coil!!!

[suprememind]

Why do u think it's rotating?

[TheBypasser]

Ion wind + a bit of a shockwave on each breakout (mostly wind of course).

[1229noid]

wether ya believe in flying disks or not....this kinda makes my wonder if this technology is applied & thus they rotate?...(sorry my spelling sux)

[seopeter22]

wow.

[KnightChatX]

Converting energy into motion kenetic energy is a good thing.

[Beamshipcaptain]

TT Brown's ELECTROKINETIC APPARATUS, USP # 2,949,550 I replicated in late 90's with 3-foot saucers. very weird, very cool. There is a great TV programme tonight on the SCIENCE CHANNEL, of successful free-energy and antigravity researchers and their incredible inventions, some patented!

[TheBypasser]

Nice stuff, but there's no free-energy and antigravity ;)

[Beamshipcaptain]

I have books CHOCK full of free energy and antigravity PATENTS, so that statement is not based on ANY research. There was a programme on the SCIENCE CHANNEL 3-weeks ago on free-energy and antigravity devices and their devisors.

[TheBypasser]

man, cut with tv - the scientific tv is even worse then reality shows - they talk things they have no idea about!

[Beamshipcaptain]

Read about them. If you are motivated and skilled with tools, you can replicate them. But that takes balls. Have any?

[Phenomenological]

Yes this is awesome, but it isn't antigravity or anything magical like that, it's all quite mainstream physics.

Those guys with the patents who thought they were actually reducing gravity were mistaken it seems - no one can reproduce the results.

But just because something isn't antigravity doesn't mean it isn't cool or potentially useful.

[Beamshipcaptain]

We are talking SEMANTICS here. The opposite of GRAVITY IS LEVITY, but John Searl already called his early SEG-powered flying models "Levity Disks". Antigravity is a name that just seems to work for FORCE-FIELD, Propellantless propulsion systems. Saucer technology. I built some of these patents, all the ones I built work. Take a risk, do some building.

[RotogenRay]

hehe, all t townsend brown ever did was provide misinformational patents to try and lead away from the real truth.

if there was anything of intrest in those, they'd be classified.

[Beamshipcaptain]

They were classified from 1955-1995.

I was the one who flew 3-foot flying saucers in 2000 in Reno, Nevada, at the 2nd antigravity-conference, they flew BACKWARDS, sealed in plastic-bags, and my Beamship VTOL Brown patent (USpat #2,949,550) are still the largest such VTOL dynamic-counterbary devices in the entire world, and are award-winning replicatios of TT Brown's gravity-defying work. Read TT Brown's lab-notes, as I have.

[RotogenRay]

How bout go back further to the earlier, relevant information and look at TESLAs work on that.

Tesla stated in a Dec 8, 1915 New York Times article that his electro-propulsive "manless airship" would travel "300 miles per second" and "without propelling engine or wings, sent by electricity to any desirable point on the globe."

Like I said, if they had anything good, they'd STILL be CLASSIFIED.

[Beamshipcaptain]

And wha thave we seen since the 1940s, exactly what Tesla described, over every country in the world. Interest in force-field propulsion is at an all-time high. Prof John Searl and his team are resurrecting his suppressed, successful energy and propulsion research. People are building and flying giant VTOL Biefeld Brown craft (I fly the largest in the world, form 1 to 3-meters diameter), since 1990s. I can tell you the force is tremendous, on very-low power.

[RotogenRay]

indeed, that is just what tesla said, the force is "tremendous"

But I still think TT Brown is full of shit- from what I've heard. I could be wrong, but my understanding is that Brown was a misinformationist. Lots of people went behind tesla and other genuine inventors and patented their discoveries- Marconi was likely the biggest plagarist of all.

He confuses the issue, just like "lifters" and things of that nature.

[roidroid]

>"I was the one who flew 3-foot flying saucers in 2000 in Reno, Nevada, at the 2nd antigravity-conference, they flew BACKWARDS, sealed in plastic-bags"

Please upload the footage of "flying while sealed in plastic bags" to youtube and then message me, i strongly wish to see it.

[KnightChatX]

That is so cool, reminds me of the engine off Star Trek, the sound of the warp drive.

[Beamshipcaptain]

This is actually ONE form of WARP DRIVE. Courtesy of Genius Nick Tesla!!!

[jackfrost132]

Actually, that is a DIY project built off of current technologies, while I agree he's probably got a bright future ahead of him, I doubt an Ion Motor based off Tesla Energy will be his claim to fame.

[TheBypasser]

lol ye - the stuff is definitely fun and even more definitely useless ;)

As for the bright future, considering the fact I scrap much parts for my devices on the local scrapyeard and never give a hell about the safety, I guess my future will be literally bright as it's gonna end up in a flash of an explosion ;)

[VSkwidd]

Note*

you should have a job waiting for you somewhere im sure, try military Weapons creation... especially if you made that yourself ;p

[dnalbach]

Awesome! I know next to nothing about eletronics, but it's obvious you know your stuff.

[mamaanik]

is this video real? it looks a bit fake... no motion blur on the light moving, even when it gets fast... or do you have a kickass $5000 HD camera?

[TheBypasser]

lol of course it is real and shot on a generic "Cybershot" cam! U just forgot that the streamer is modulated by the 50 Hz due to the voltage doubler design, so, with a pretty short camera exposure you'll see no motion blur of course! What makes you wonder is the bad visibility of the rotor - look at the first frames to see the rotor arrow and the counterweight then ;)

[TheBypasser]

lol newb - cut with those pop-science tv-shows ffs! Also learn the difference between an ion motor and an ion thruster, and next time use the quasineutrality condition to check if some gas is plasma or not - because what you posted is all wrong! (I mean literally!) Wanna look smart? Put on the glasses and remain silent - because having been studying plasma physics for quite a while now all I have to do now is just to laugh at what you've written ;)

ps and learn to spell "tesla" ffs :)

[4wx50m3]

first, the displacement of ion's through your "telsa" is not the same as ion propulsion. Secondly, oxygen is not ionized properly to be converted into plasma when exposed to electrons. You must have plasma in order for an ion thruster to even begin ion propulsion... jackass.

[whitenight639]

thats sweet, you do know it will ionise the air and can case cancer if inhaled.

[RotogenRay]

it'll just make ozone you twit.

[whitenight639]

yes you retard what do you think ozone is? its 02 (oxygen) split into just o (one oxeygen atom ozone)

[TheBypasser]

hell quit jerkin' - ozone is O3 ffs! Early school chemistry (oh how I miss those days): O is an atomic oxygen, O2 is the neutral oxygen molecule and O3 is damn friggin' ozone which is unstable of course - that's why it tends to split into 2x O2, getting the missing one oxy atom from a random molecule it reacts with - another O3 (good), or your cell's one (not very good ;) ) - so if you breath one, you get a major poisoning.. Actually, here BOTH the O3 formation and ionization take place btw..

[KnightChatX]

Does this mean air cleaning Ionizer products are dangerous? I run one that emits Positive charged particles 24/7 but used to have one that had HEPA filter that used Negative charged particles. That stuff is used in subs/ships and other places to keep air clean and dust free and kill bacteria?

[TheBypasser]

Of course not - there is only some minor ion wind in those devices and apparently they are completely safe and usefull :) When you have a powerfull discharge - that's when the trouble comes ;)

[Beamshipcaptain]

The NEGATIVE-charged one is the one you want! Positive-charged environment makes us sick, while negative state is just the opposite.

[LeoDJ1992]

electrons don't change our behaviours...

[RotogenRay]

Oxygen is always diatomic. Otherwise it just bonds with something.

Ozone (O3) is a triatomic molecule, consisting of three oxygen atoms

Oh, and such a classy comeback. How many times have I heard "retard" in the past week?

And that's called sarcasm, in case you didn't know. Which, I'm sure you did, since you are the insult master and you make small children cry and call for their mommies, oh truly, your persona intimidates many small children on a daily basis.