I am a temple style tai chi practitioner and I find this video very good in explaning the whole-body mechanics and alignment to move as one unit....Kudos to sifu. This is very much akin to the PUSH FORM in tai chi as well.
@chinaboxer, something i noticed about aaron's demonstation (I don't mean to nit pick) but...when he attempts to align his three sticks inorder to keep you out of his "master bedroom" he does not "attack" you with both sides of his body. I watched this clip repeated to ensure that this was the case before i added my 2 cents. I noticed him leaning to one side, and that tells me he has engaged his shoulder and has broken his structure. Correct me if I'm wrong
I'm finding Jin's explanations/analogies to be the best. They do open your eyes to things you may have trained/seen in other arts. Some WC movements lend themselves well to other arts/techniques.
@NinjaGuyden lol...that is so...funny...i hope that doesn't stop u training. If it helps, use your hairs like a cat uses it's whiskers, no joke, this should increase your sensitivity not hinder it. I've trained with many europeans with matted arm hair and they use this to their advantage. Happy training.
@YoungCrs Not really. If his arm is fully extended then chances are you are going to have to pak his "outside gate". However, against a boxer, there is a good chance that his arm has become a "solid iron bar". In this case, you can take advantage of it. Idealy, you want to jam. However, I don't want you to go out thinking that you *cant* pak an extended arm. Its all in your sensitivity.
@Warkiam well if his arm is fully extended then you tecnically aren't in (WC) range to hit or even have any sensitivity since you have no connection to his bridge.
maybe my mistake is thinking that pak is a first action with no bridge.
@YoungCrs What I meant was that you shouldn't get into the mentality that you *have* to pak the elbow or bend of arm. That would be chasing hands (some people tend to "reach" in towards the elbow, which can be a fatal flaw). Of course, by using a paksau to the wrist you have already built your bridge. Chisao should start at moment of contact.
What I love about Jin is that he doesn't make any excuses. If something doesn't work (and from my experience, it pretty much always works), he finds a way to make it work. He doesn't whine, doesn't make excuses. If something goes wrong, he does a little self reflection and seeks to improve himself. Jin sets a new standard for Martial Arts, not just wing chun.
@edenic1988...every art has moves that can be illegal in the ring. I've been doing wc for a couple of years now and must say that most wc ppl simply don't train to fight in or out of the ring.
Jin: I love your videos. When you were demonstrating the pak sau on Aaron (in the latter part of the video), after you 'paked' and went in with a tan, why tan and not follow through with a straight punch? You told Aaron earlier to keep his other arm bent because he hadn't yet breached 'the master bedroom'—but what can go wrong if he goes in with a straight punch instead of a tan?
@edenic1988 There is literally no difference in the dilivery of a tan sau and a chung chuie other than the hand position. It really doesn't matter what you do after the pak-sau. You could tan, pak again, chung chuie- whatever. As long as you driven with the elbow and seek the centerline. Goodluck, Will
nice illustration sifu jin, i remember the first time learning this.it looks so simple but it;s very hard to focus on so much. using two arms and your footwork to trap and create the angle you want is very difficult when your use to say just boxing. but you explain all your drills very well and very similar to what my sifu teaches.you can view my sifu's web sight@ctwingchun com
@Tjunproductions He posted it up already in his "New Training Location" video:
The Academy of Mixed Martial Science
11671 National Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90064
tuesdays & thursdays : 6-7pm
The link to the website is also there. Youtube won't let me repost the link here so you'll have to find that video for the link. Should be one of those on the right side as of typing this.
I wonder how Wing Chun would do in the UFC.. I could see it being a very dangerous weapon.. I hope to see Wing Chun be utilized in mixed martial arts someday
@IamDemetri00 alot of the concepts he tries to teach can be converted to a sort of professional fight. Mr. Jin here has a wealth of knowledge so he is able to apply the traditional style to real world situation. If you watch some of his videos that touch on closing the gap and understanding medium and close range you can see he tries to apply the techniques to professional fighting and also a street fight.
@IamDemetri00: I don't know that Wing Chun would do well in the UFC. I've only been doing it for a couple of months, but some of the stuff we learn—a lot of the stuff we learn—is prohibited in 'the ring': Biu Tze is but one example. I wouldn't want to see WC in 'the ring' because WC is not a sport—it's meant for self defense in case REAL shit happens to go down.
@YiLuXiangBang When you're in the right range, you should attempt to bridge. When bridge is set, you should immediately employ your WC principles - constant pressure, move forward if there's no obstruction, offset/unbalance your opponent, change when he change, etc... If you do so, you decrease their chance to knee your groin successfully, primarily b/c they're off-balanced. If you bridge and then stop to think or are worried about the knee, you give him a window for a knee atk.
@YiLuXiangBang The next thing you could do is shifting. But the sooner you close the gap and get in their space, the sooner you can control their body. It's important to unbalance/offset them - makes it much easier to trap, push, pull, etc. and harder for them to retaliate unless they regain their footing and stability.
You could learn the different types of WC kicks and use them to continue to break your opponent's structure, but once again, it all comes down to destabilizing them.
@YiLuXiangBang Finally, in the meantime that you're waiting for Jin to respond, try freestyle crossing hands with a high level student (you start off essentially in the setup Jin's doing in this video and begin freestyle WC sparring). Don't let him know you want to knee him or test out attempting to knee him. If he knows, he'll be ready (not realistic), but during the sparring, try to do it. After a couple of attempts, stop and think of why you could or could not do it. Hope this helps! :)
I am a temple style tai chi practitioner and I find this video very good in explaning the whole-body mechanics and alignment to move as one unit....Kudos to sifu. This is very much akin to the PUSH FORM in tai chi as well.
efdesilva 1 month ago
Your teachings are incredible
futuresoldier201 2 months ago in playlist Wing Chun - Movements
i like how you refer to you territory or space if you will as your "master bedroom"
shylildude 3 months ago
@chinaboxer, something i noticed about aaron's demonstation (I don't mean to nit pick) but...when he attempts to align his three sticks inorder to keep you out of his "master bedroom" he does not "attack" you with both sides of his body. I watched this clip repeated to ensure that this was the case before i added my 2 cents. I noticed him leaning to one side, and that tells me he has engaged his shoulder and has broken his structure. Correct me if I'm wrong
taytran83 3 months ago
The best teacher I have seen, this is like an idiots guide. If you don't understand these concepts after watching this video, you never will.
Hardysamnin 3 months ago
@Hardysamnin ha ha very true, that goes for all his vids!
MrLexTalionis1 3 months ago
I'm finding Jin's explanations/analogies to be the best. They do open your eyes to things you may have trained/seen in other arts. Some WC movements lend themselves well to other arts/techniques.
dbc254 3 months ago
Man I cannot practice wing chun because of my hairy arms. Obviously made for women or hairless eastern asian guys.
NinjaGuyden 3 months ago
@NinjaGuyden lol...that is so...funny...i hope that doesn't stop u training. If it helps, use your hairs like a cat uses it's whiskers, no joke, this should increase your sensitivity not hinder it. I've trained with many europeans with matted arm hair and they use this to their advantage. Happy training.
taytran83 3 months ago
thanks i want to learn wing chun, and this is the only class I have.
Zarat818 3 months ago
Let us all donate a little bit since we have xmas soon
Tvidstein 3 months ago
quick question, when you pak a fully extended arm, does that mean your timing is late?
what i mean is, ideally, you want to pak when his arm is still bent?
YoungCrs 3 months ago
@YoungCrs Not really. If his arm is fully extended then chances are you are going to have to pak his "outside gate". However, against a boxer, there is a good chance that his arm has become a "solid iron bar". In this case, you can take advantage of it. Idealy, you want to jam. However, I don't want you to go out thinking that you *cant* pak an extended arm. Its all in your sensitivity.
Warkiam 3 months ago
@Warkiam well if his arm is fully extended then you tecnically aren't in (WC) range to hit or even have any sensitivity since you have no connection to his bridge.
maybe my mistake is thinking that pak is a first action with no bridge.
what are your thoughts jin?
YoungCrs 3 months ago
@YoungCrs What I meant was that you shouldn't get into the mentality that you *have* to pak the elbow or bend of arm. That would be chasing hands (some people tend to "reach" in towards the elbow, which can be a fatal flaw). Of course, by using a paksau to the wrist you have already built your bridge. Chisao should start at moment of contact.
Warkiam 3 months ago
@Warkiam Just curious, but what are your WC credentials?
edenic1988 3 months ago
@edenic1988 Oh, me? I'm just a student. ^^
Warkiam 3 months ago
thank you ..great lesson..also made me understand something in tai chi push hands..knowing is not power..understanding is power.
kiekert2007 3 months ago
@edenic, There's a couple reasons why he doesn't "throw a straight punch" with the pak or at the bridge.
1, He's training and you don't want to hurt your partner.
2, The "Shoot the Basketball" motion is meant to replace punching for training.
3, Keeping your elbows down and in helps to prevent counterattacks as you work your way in.
trojanknightwing 3 months ago
@trojanknightwing Thank you for your explanation
edenic1988 3 months ago
What I love about Jin is that he doesn't make any excuses. If something doesn't work (and from my experience, it pretty much always works), he finds a way to make it work. He doesn't whine, doesn't make excuses. If something goes wrong, he does a little self reflection and seeks to improve himself. Jin sets a new standard for Martial Arts, not just wing chun.
Warkiam 3 months ago
Jin, I swear...You keep stealing mai haircut!!!! Everytime I get a haircut, you seem to mimic meeeee -.- Anyways, good video.
taiwanoob 3 months ago
@edenic1988...every art has moves that can be illegal in the ring. I've been doing wc for a couple of years now and must say that most wc ppl simply don't train to fight in or out of the ring.
baqi9 3 months ago
Jin: I love your videos. When you were demonstrating the pak sau on Aaron (in the latter part of the video), after you 'paked' and went in with a tan, why tan and not follow through with a straight punch? You told Aaron earlier to keep his other arm bent because he hadn't yet breached 'the master bedroom'—but what can go wrong if he goes in with a straight punch instead of a tan?
Thanks in advance,
Paul
edenic1988 3 months ago
@edenic1988 There is literally no difference in the dilivery of a tan sau and a chung chuie other than the hand position. It really doesn't matter what you do after the pak-sau. You could tan, pak again, chung chuie- whatever. As long as you driven with the elbow and seek the centerline. Goodluck, Will
Warkiam 3 months ago
@Warkiam Thanks for your words of wisdom, Warkiam!
edenic1988 3 months ago
great explaination :D
GamesPlayer1 3 months ago
Move straight to the center of the attack, stop it at its start point. Which is how one applies forward intent to stop attacks.
8cspohn 3 months ago
Cool trousers dude =D
MiniMikeFTW 3 months ago
nice illustration sifu jin, i remember the first time learning this.it looks so simple but it;s very hard to focus on so much. using two arms and your footwork to trap and create the angle you want is very difficult when your use to say just boxing. but you explain all your drills very well and very similar to what my sifu teaches.you can view my sifu's web sight@ctwingchun com
btw hows the new gym?
xxdjcharlierockxx 3 months ago
Hey Jin! Im following your tutorials one month ago and LOVE IT!
Youre the BEST teacher (as Master Wong) in Wing Chun.
If you want to tell me where your Dojo is i want to train there if im 20 years old. Now im only 15 and im doing Jiu Jitsu.
Tjunproductions 3 months ago
@Tjunproductions He posted it up already in his "New Training Location" video:
The Academy of Mixed Martial Science
11671 National Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90064
tuesdays & thursdays : 6-7pm
The link to the website is also there. Youtube won't let me repost the link here so you'll have to find that video for the link. Should be one of those on the right side as of typing this.
fdesa12 3 months ago
I wonder how Wing Chun would do in the UFC.. I could see it being a very dangerous weapon.. I hope to see Wing Chun be utilized in mixed martial arts someday
IamDemetri00 3 months ago
@IamDemetri00 alot of the concepts he tries to teach can be converted to a sort of professional fight. Mr. Jin here has a wealth of knowledge so he is able to apply the traditional style to real world situation. If you watch some of his videos that touch on closing the gap and understanding medium and close range you can see he tries to apply the techniques to professional fighting and also a street fight.
RjEatsDogs 3 months ago
@IamDemetri00: I don't know that Wing Chun would do well in the UFC. I've only been doing it for a couple of months, but some of the stuff we learn—a lot of the stuff we learn—is prohibited in 'the ring': Biu Tze is but one example. I wouldn't want to see WC in 'the ring' because WC is not a sport—it's meant for self defense in case REAL shit happens to go down.
edenic1988 3 months ago
jin when in the rite range im worried about their knee to the grown..could u do a vid abt it
YiLuXiangBang 3 months ago
@YiLuXiangBang When you're in the right range, you should attempt to bridge. When bridge is set, you should immediately employ your WC principles - constant pressure, move forward if there's no obstruction, offset/unbalance your opponent, change when he change, etc... If you do so, you decrease their chance to knee your groin successfully, primarily b/c they're off-balanced. If you bridge and then stop to think or are worried about the knee, you give him a window for a knee atk.
fdesa12 3 months ago
@YiLuXiangBang The next thing you could do is shifting. But the sooner you close the gap and get in their space, the sooner you can control their body. It's important to unbalance/offset them - makes it much easier to trap, push, pull, etc. and harder for them to retaliate unless they regain their footing and stability.
You could learn the different types of WC kicks and use them to continue to break your opponent's structure, but once again, it all comes down to destabilizing them.
fdesa12 3 months ago
@YiLuXiangBang Finally, in the meantime that you're waiting for Jin to respond, try freestyle crossing hands with a high level student (you start off essentially in the setup Jin's doing in this video and begin freestyle WC sparring). Don't let him know you want to knee him or test out attempting to knee him. If he knows, he'll be ready (not realistic), but during the sparring, try to do it. After a couple of attempts, stop and think of why you could or could not do it. Hope this helps! :)
fdesa12 3 months ago