Mamba Max Rustler with paddles

[Fox250R]

Can you really beat the shit out of those cars like that? LOL that was crazy!

[spawnkiller25]

When you did have the car, what kind of esc did u have? The traxxas xl-5?

[tattoo693]

oo you dont have the car sorry

[tattoo693]

yo can you please make a video revew on your rustler and i subed

[tre2146]

what kind of esc

[stiffmyster157]

3 Dislikes = Jealousy, Mad that this is faster then ges powerd and, they cant afford a real rc car like this!!

[whitetail48813]

mamba max in a rustler! holy shit! im jealous.

[Kawasakikid270]

So im confused.. Your using a 5700kv mamba with the stock xl-5 esc?

[Eloopa1000]

How long will it run for ??

[imjustwonderful]

nice vid. i got an old legacy model electric rustler with a 9000kv mamba max system and a 7.4v thunder power 40c racing pack. blew my tranny and drivetrain almost immediately. got my steel gears. full ball bearings. proline dirt paws. wheelie bar. so what you advise i do next?

[cooldude7c]

Whats your gear ratio

[agoodyz]

such a sick video i love my vxl with lipo i goin to get brushless and lipo for my emaxx

[ch0l0sk8r]

how much is this car

[FastEddddie]

Hey Finbilly, 2 cars max atta time? Ahhh what do women know anyway ;)

[kenmtb]

Nice video!

It must be great to bash in the sand. The possibilities are endless!

[chance2705]

how much was the mam

ba max system

[charlitunaman2002]

Good night! What kind of steroids is that thing on???????!!!!! Good bashing vid! You should go pro, or become instructor! Hahahahah

[TheAtc110rider]

thats some crazy stuff you got there!!!!!!!!!

[9409469]

hay what kind of rims did you use for your proline sand paw tire... i have those same tires but i cant find a rim that fits on my rustler vxl, please help me, thanks.

[finbilly]

@9409469 I had HPI Split 5's at rear. Almost any wheel with 12mm hex will do, the offset doesn't have to be exactly the same.

[Kawasakikid270]

@finbilly Do you think the sand paws will fit the proline split six beadlocks?

[bernardoptnco]

man thats insane!!!!

[nabilgravityoxygen]

Would you recommend the paddles? how much fun more fun are they as compared to the stock alias tires on rustler? Thanks.

[nabilgravityoxygen]

1:34 has the same GRUAALL noise.. what is it?

[FU420B]

@nabilgravityoxygen grit in the spur gear.

[Traxxas4908]

What gearing are you running in this vid?

[toxicmeteor101]

i have a bruhsless bandit and it was working perfect until today... it doesnt turn when u tell it to sometimes and also as soon as u plug a battery in a light comes on on the esc wihtout me even pushing the button. acceleration works fine but the steering cuts in and out, can some one please tell me how to fix. i think it mght have something to do with esc because power goes into it from the battery wihtout me even pushing the ez button. im running nimh and lipo . please reply and help me.:(

[orionknight12]

I bought a Rustler because of this awesome video and I absolutely LOVE it!!! My only gripe is that is overheats with the stock gearing on lipos. Sand paddles are definitely the way to go!!! BASH ON RUSTY!!!

[sjcomputerdude]

@orionknight12

Add a CPU fan and rechargeable 9v battery.

last almost 1hr of run time.

[popcan78]

would u recamend that esc and motor for a rustler vxl running stock gearing and 9.6v batt?

[ReturnScroll]

You got lucky on all those crashes lol Like literally.

What are you running with motor?

[ryan129994]

what motor ans what speed controle unit

[vikingvoorhees]

That is rowdy as hell!!! I gotta have it for my sc10... What lipo set up you running?

[mxer4life21]

wait is that brushless? if so and ur still running the xl-5 speed controler?

[finbilly]

Yes, it's brushless and no, it's not the stock esc but Mamba Max esc with CC5700 motor.

[skatesoft44]

holy shit that thing is nutts

[skatesoft44]

bitch lol, hide em under the bed

[chevyguy86]

Thank you for not dubbing in crappy music like everyone else does.

[kenmtb]

@chevyguy86 Can't agree more!!!!!

[Staytoeback]

@chevyguy86 so serious

[Staytoeback]

Respond to this video... paddles beating the sand

[Quadracer36Films]

GO electric i hope I get a rustler soon

[RCbasher1243]

Go Electric!!!

By the way awesome vid 5/5.

[C0LEgasmaxx]

holy crap that is the fastest rc car i have ever seed ofroad! good driving as well!

[maggiCK123]

in a rustler

[maggiCK123]

SL 9T Brushless motor

EZRUN 35A SL V1 speed control

or

EZRUN 60A SL

SL 17.5T Brushless motor

what is best?

[jmey107]

whats the gearing?

[xDarknest07x]

awsome vid..I wish a had a sand pit near my city...

[chase199785]

btw extremely awesome vid

[chase199785]

can anybody help me out here? k, im interested in buying an electric rc. i was thinking the stock slash at first because of durability.. but im starting to think the rustler vxl is a better car. i know the rustler would be faster than the stock slash.. but how durable is it? do any parts break?

[wildcardco1998]

I say go with the slash, I have had a rustler, bandit, and stampede. And even though they are basically the same as the slash as far as the suspension, which is what usually breaks, The slash is just more durable. I think it is mostly due to the body design. The parts have more protection, since the wheels aren't sticking out from under the body. I have yet to break mine and I am running a Sidewinder brushless ESC and 5700Kv motor on 7 cell nimh.

[7paul7paul7]

couldn't you just get a rustler and buy slash parts

[skatesoft44]

the rustler sucks

[motocrossmaniac9]

i would have bought it.

[motocrossmaniac9]

y dont u have all these nice cars anymore

[finbilly]

Well I guess I get bored quickly.. :)

No, really I (we) live in a quite small apartment so there's not much space for my hobby (plus the missus has limited my rc-cars to two at a time max.)

[motocrossmaniac9]

o that sucks

[RidingSausage]

oops! i can hear your idle gear crapping out!

[RidingSausage]

is this setup better than traxxas VXL???

[motocrossmaniac9]

i would of kept this

[SupraTuner2323]

Must get some good grip if it does wheelies on sand!

[brM0NST3R]

will a brushless burn up in the sand ?

[1985250r]

NITRO RULEZ!!!!!!!

[finbilly]

Welcome to the 21st century.

[Gallaway400]

LMAO ... you go FB...

[supakrazee]

what are your paddles? proline?

[finbilly]

Yup, ProLine Sand Paws as it says in the video description. ;)

[Sabrason]

Wow..cool video. Brutal power but seems a bit much for this truck even though it looks like you're having a blast! Hope you didn't burn the Mamba up. :)

[Traxxas4908]

do you think you'd be able to run the gearing at like 24 or 25/83

[finbilly]

Not really, I think that's way too tall - maybe for high speed runs on flat surface.

[Traxxas4908]

what gearing are you running in this vid?

[finbilly]

I can't remember exactly but I think it was 15t pinion and 87t spur.

[motocrossmaniac9]

do u ever have any problems with runnin it on the sand

[finbilly]

No probs. With Mamba motors it's essential to seal the hole from where the wires enter the motor. Otherwise you'll get a can full of sand which will most likely destroy windings from motor.

[motocrossmaniac9]

should i use lipos for my mamba max 5700 on my stampede im thinkin of gettin 12 cell like a 1200 3s

[finbilly]

umm.. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "12 cell"?

If you want to go extreme, then your choice is 3 cell lipo. Stampede will be a handful to drive with it and your truck will spend most of the time on it's lid.

With 2 cell lipo (atleast 5000mAh) it is still pretty driveable and your motor won't suffer from heat problems.

Also notice that you need a charger that is capable of balancing your lipos.

[motocrossmaniac9]

o ok thanks man

[TheHeadHunter824]

Is this in Finland? Its beautiful land ,Ive never seen powder like sand in a mountainous spot like this before ...

[finbilly]

Yes, the area is a "gravel pit" from which they haul sand to a nearby concrete factory.

Actually Finland is famous (atleast that's what we Finns think :) from it's sand esker chains, which were developed during the ice age.

[tibovdb]

If there is something that I hate then it is an overheating motor, so I want to drive my e-firestorm on 3s lipo and don't want to overheat, what gearing should I use? And does the velineon motor stays cooler then the mamba max?

[finbilly]

Yup, I think you should go with Velineon 3500kv motor. It has plenty of torque and runs cooler than any Mamba motor (I've tested 4600, 5700 & 7700 Mambas). Proper gearing is always a bit of mystery and depends from many factors (weight, battery used, tires, driveline drag, etc.). Get different pinions from 15 to 23 teeth in steps of two and experiment. :)

[tbvdb]

Ok, thanks for the advice ;)

[kwyjibosponge]

I just got a MM 7700 for my bandit and will be using an 18/90 gear set, id like to use nimh as i dont currently have a lipo charger, what are some good quality batteries i could use. I am currently using venom 3000mah and from what i understand they dont have enough of a discharge rate...

[finbilly]

I can't recomment anything since I don't really have knowledge about NiMH's today. I think you should seek advice from the Traxxas' forums - monster[dot]traxxas[dot]com

[arch3rkid0]

nice video i will be doing the same thing next summer cause i live on an island and theres lots of beach. my maba runs hot on 8 cells but i got like 23 gear pinnion think i should get a 15 and a fan?

[finbilly]

You could try different sized pinions. Fan for the motor might be a little overkill, but a heatsink is always helpful.

[norcomanik12]

that looks so fun

[SSSavage25]

great video!!

how hot does the ESC/Motor get with a 3 cell pack??

Thanks.

[finbilly]

Mamba motors tend to get extemely hot, no matter what gearing you use. I had to pause often and let the motor cool down or it would've been toasted.

[venommotor123]

if you use geared at 31/72 and the vxl fan it dosent get too hot but i have 3.6 tires on my 4wd rusty and i use a 16/72 gear ratio

[skatesoft44]

4wd rustler ok thats believable

[RCdude33]

how fast and nice wheelie!!!!

[nazilur]

fin, car is awesome. I wld like to buy a car like this. Tell me the complete specification. Will i get the same specification as yours in stock or i need to assemble it. If i can get which site i need to look.

[finbilly]

You may want to go the easiest way and buy yourself a Traxxas Rustler VXL. Put a decent battery in it and you'll get the same results. :)

[Surpluzz]

Awesome. Im a nitro guy, but you gotta give respect to the Rustler. I just bought it. I hope mine performs like yours. Ive got a 3s 4000 11.1 w/ sand paddles. love it.

[MC7791]

looks as fast as a nitro traxxas max. did any sand get into the chassis or electronics? like the part going up on the dune. quicksand indeed

[finbilly]

Sand getting in chassis is not a problem, it can always be cleaned.

[recordanddisplay]

whats the fucking voltage

[finbilly]

For 3S lipo it's 11.1 volts. And mind your language, thank you.

[wildone137]

where are you at

construction site?

[finbilly]

That's a place from where they used to transfer sand to the local concrete factory.

[wildone137]

that thing hauls

[janciis]

now whats the EXACT parts you have on this thing.

because im fixing too buy a xl-5.

but i want it too be fast.

lol.

[gasscooterdude]

Does that have deans or tamiya connectors?

[finbilly]

Deans with lipos always :)

[2hot4you369]

that is badass

[joshjackoff]

which is better mamba max or VXL system

[finbilly]

Both have their advantages; Mamba has better tunability but the motors run hot. The ideal setup might be Mamba ESC & Velineon motor. :)

[joshjackoff]

ok does a fan on the motor help?

[finbilly]

Yes, if you can mount one properly. Heatsink of some kind might be helpful too.

[joshjackoff]

ok thanks when you first got ur mamba max what was your gearing?

[finbilly]

With Rustler I was running stock spur (87 was it?) and 18 pinion. Later changed the pinion to 15 teeth.

[joshjackoff]

ok cause i was on the mamba site and it said to go to the largest spur gear and the smallest pinion but i don't think it matters that much

[JypsyHunter]

Hi I was wondering which you prefer the most the rustler or the stampede I am going to buy one or the other but cant decide which one. I was wondering what the weakneses or or good things are about each of them? Thanks.

[finbilly]

With Rustler you can drive faster because of it's lower center of gravity. As a monter truck Stampede is fun to drive, but it'll fall over very easily.

Depends from what type of driving you like really.

[ghettochild240]

what kind of batterie do you run in that

[finbilly]

I had a Team Orion 3200mAh 11.1V LiPo battery in the car at this video.

[Maritimer123]

what are the best paddel tires and where can you order them?price per pair

thanks

[finbilly]

Dunno which are the best, only had ProLine Sand Paws in Rustler.

They are 11.99$ at Tower Hobbies.

[RevoRacer24]

what rims are you running

[finbilly]

Some RPM's at front (can't remember what) and black HPI Split 5's at rear.

[wildone137]

torqueaholic

[gunster10]

nice drawing on the sand :)

[yz125ryder]

holy that truck is fassssst.

[andynugget]

i have a truck already i have the older version the legacy and i know how to use it well but i am interested in upgrading witha better battery and a better motor.

[andynugget]

also i plan on getting the mamba max 5700. what kind of battery do you think i should get??????

[finbilly]

Lipo-batteries offer lots of power, but bit expensive and need a special charger & balancer. Also if you're not familiar to lipos, I suggest that you search web for proper lipo handling instructions. No joke, they are dangerous if misused/charged.

With Mamba 5700 2 cell lipo is nice, 3 cell is marvellous... :) 5000mAH minimum, so you can enjoy reasonable runtimes.

If you have NiMH's, use them first and if in need for speed, change to lipos.

[andynugget]

okay maybe you could talk to me about this stuff on aim or email. i am very new to this stuff i would like to learn how to use a lipo also you could talk to me about what kind of stuff i would need and how much the battery system stuff would cost i am willing to learn. thank you

[andynugget]

if your are willing to help me i would really appreciate it.

[andynugget]

how much did you pay for that truck when you bought it stock?

[finbilly]

159.99$ July 2007 from Towerhobbies.

[lastpally]

do the traxxas have to be geared lower then the T4 or e-firestorm? I run a 7700kv with a 87 spur and a 19 pinion on my E-firestorm...run a 20pinion on the t4 with 87spur... using a 6000mah 2slipo...btw nice video.

[finbilly]

Thanks.

There might be differences at the internal gearings which allow you to run with bigger pinion. Mamba would've been burning with that big of a pinion on Rustler, atleast in off-road use. :)

[lastpally]

the internal gear ratio on the rustler is 2.72, on the t4 and the e-firestorm is 2.60...so the rustler has more torque. That is what I can't understand. I do use my trucks for off road use only. Have you removed the grease from the transmission? Oh it's a 88t spur on the T4 with a 20t pinion. Thanks

[tibovdb]

How did you sandproof it?

Because i'm going to buy one too with paddle tires and i'm going to ride the most on the beach!

[finbilly]

There's no special tricks made for the car, only the hole where the wires go inside the Mamba motor was sealed.

I used compressed air to clean most of the sand from the car after running.

[wildone137]

what gearing are you running iwant it!

[finbilly]

Umm, if I remember correctly, it was stock spur (86) and 15 teeth pinion.

[SmilingBumpy]

This thing flies! i am going to get one asap

i have some 3c 2150mah lipo's i'd like to use first and then maybe upgrade to 5000 mah. Really cool vid, gotta get some paddles too ;-)

[finbilly]

5000mAh might be just the right compromise between runtime and weight. You should be able to drive 30mins easily.

[SmilingBumpy]

i just can't wait to get my hands on one. I've been watching vids on you tube all day and they are okay for bashing aswell as racing. I think i will sell my nitrostuff and switch to electric all the way. MBX5 prospec and savage ss

[finbilly]

:D

Lot of less hassle with electrics. Although you have to pay a little respect to lipos and how to handle them.

[SmilingBumpy]

I have been flying with lipo since 2 years, so i guess i'll be fine...

[finbilly]

Hehe, okay then. :)

[5li3e]

downhill wheelie! yeeeeah!!!

[stranger590]

Im planing to upgrade to brushless, not in the near future, but when the wallet sais so. anyways, i have a traxxas bandit and 11 turn brushed motors with xl-10 speed controle. I also have plastic gears in the tranny. they hold up as long as the fit tight.. if i do get brushless, what should i get, and should i switch to steel gears. I have heard that they create a lot of heat, which gets transfered to the motor.

[finbilly]

Get the VXL idler (traxxas part# 3696) and diff case (part# 2381X) to your tranny. Also, upgrade wheelbearings if you haven't already :)

Steel gears do not generate that much heat, the motor makes most of it - atleast if we talk about Mamba.

[nabilgravityoxygen]

@finbilly - Are you recommending to upgrade to bearings from stock bushing.. I was planning buy soem stuff from towerhobbies, and was thinking about the DuraTrax ones. How many bearings are required?

Any other recommendations for my VXL? Thanks..

[matt1648]

1 word dam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GeneralG40]

How is this rig holding up still when running the 3s lipo and the 5700 motor with the mamba max? I'm interested in buying this same combo!

[finbilly]

Actually the car was sold about a month ago as a roller. Held up quite well until that - broke only the stock rear rim when it hit a rock.

Only small modifications were made to the stock XL-5; VXL idler & diff case, aluminium shock towers & bearing carriers, adjustable camber links and a wheelie bar ofcourse. :)

[nabilgravityoxygen]

@finbilly - What is adjustable camber links?

[Tricksterz09]

they are fliping awesome im going to get one,much faster then nitro.

[tekstyle373]

Looks like you had a blast, that is a great bash spot!

[chilledoutuk]

well in short it is faster than a vxl pede as the 5700 on 3s lipo is basically crazy power.

The problem with the vxl pede is its high c of g making handling say for example 3s lipo problematic.

[finbilly]

My words exactly.

[BillyBobolicious]

That seems faster than your VXL pede, what's your opinion? Great Video!

[finbilly]

Thanks!

Yup - as chilledoutuk stated above; Rustler is more driveable than Stampede, so you can use more power with it.

[chilledoutuk]

that is a monster savaging that poor landscape lol.

By the way what sort of temps have you been getting the 5700 motor too and how has the motor held up to getting hot.

[finbilly]

:D

It gets pretty hot - even with 13/86 gears and aluminium X-Spede heatsink (EMX1038L). After that 3200mAh 3cell pack temps are very close to the max recommended (200F).

No problems (yet) with the Mamba though. :)

[traxxasforever]

okay thx for the answer!

[traxxasforever]

any other modifications than the tires and the mamba? i mean, does the cars transmission stand it?

[finbilly]

Transmission has aluminium idler. Havent't had any problems with it, but Velineon internals (steel idler & steel ring diff) are on their way - just to be sure.

Other modifications are; aluminium shock towers, aluminium shock caps, 5x11 hubs & steering blocks (+ bearings) and RPM gear cover.