Implosion of HHO

[fuelban]

I found this re ~ implosion / explosion of HHO …Another interesting effect of

combustion of the gas is that it burns implosively. This

implosive burning is likely due to atomic hydrogen and

oxygen being present. Studies suggest that implosion

will only occur when there is less than 5% air in the

mixture otherwise explosion occurs.

Thom

[fuelban]

I must admit I find the HHO, implossion & explossion confussing, perhaps hh is in plossive, but when air pressent HHO it becomes exposive/ expansive, due to pressence of the air ???

HELP !!! LOL.

thom in scotland

[CarbideTip]

@fuelban When you have air/nitrogen it expands by heating it up.

When HHO is by its self the gas volume is reduced by recombining back into water and the water absorbs the heat.

[DocumentationPlanet]

@CarbideTip HHO is not implosive. When ignited it normally explodes as you can see in any space shuttle launch. What generates the so called 'implosion' is the cooling of the product of HHO combustion which is water wapor. If that cooling happens rapidly enough, such as when you ignite HHO in a cold enough metal cilinder, it can be characterized as implosion.

[Me102288]

@fuelban this it called a vacuum.. as you might find when you combust hho, it turn back to water consuming air and creating a vacuum. Might want to try this experiment with other gas fuels, I believe the same will happen.

[furulevi]

how does your hho implode? what's your setup please describe it a little bit because in my experiments hho always explodes...

[1BustedMyth]

Short and sweet!

what is the scale on the gauge (is it a normal cylinder compresion tester) I would be very interested to here any other data you've collected on this effect. I was amazed when a friend pointed this out to me!

Cheers

[ShutterbugW]

oops my bad

[ShutterbugW]

corection this should be internal explosion not implosion as and implosion would cause things to draw into it engines are internal combustion .combust means to explode

[CarbideTip]

The gauge is in a vacuum. Did you read any comments?

[jimsanders1]

hoodsmore are you making fun of what this man is doing. What gave you the idea that he is an evolutionist. What is the trick he is pulling?

[HoodsMore]

so, you must all be evolutionists, some yahoo pulls a trick on you and you all believe it. one has to wonder just who was in charge of you education

[CarbideTip]

Huh?

[m3sca1]

excellent proof of concept-this show why the timing of conventional engines needs to shifted to TDC,to utilise the vacuum side of the reaction

[leakfree]

That's a good test CT. It makes sense that forcing it back to a liquid would draw a vac but what puzzels me is sometimes I can ignite 500ml and it will launch and other times it will explode but when I have a flashback in my bubbler it implodes.

[dthedruid]

This is a good question and what a lot of people are getting confused on. When you have and implosion of HHO you get a vacuum. If there is liquid water present a lot of times the water will vaporize into a gas. When you have a strong enough vacuum you do not just vaporize the surface of the liquid water, you vaporize it all. That creates an explosion because the now 'steam' has no where to go.

[captainwho1]

I've heard it said that if you keep it contained and therefore at stoichiometric it will implode. If you fill a balloon and light it, it will not be at stoichiometric for very long because as soon as the balloon breaks the extra air rushes in, so explosion instead of implosion. I still need to verify this. GREAT EXPERIMENT - WELL DONE.

[dthedruid]

Remember when a molecule is in its gas stage it is much more agitated and occupies more volume. As a liquid the molecule is less agitated, and as a solid even less. Keep all of this in mind when working with this.

[dthedruid]

It is simple chemistry folks...

You take 2 molecules of water (H2O) and split them. You split it by breaking the single electron bonds of the H to the O. When it splits the H bonds with H and the O bonds with another O. This gives you 2H2 and 1O2. The natural state for O2 and H2 at room temp is a gas. Gasses by law take up more volume than a liquid. Now pass a spark back through the H2 and O2 and what happens? The H2 combines back with the O.

[dthedruid]

This is water vapor. But the water molecules 2H2O take up less volume than the 2H2 and O2.

[awizardalso]

Let's see- gasoline/air burns into a 'gas' at many times original volume. HHO seemingly burns into water (?) at many times less volume? Somehow I've confused myself into thinking HHO can't work as a fuel in an internal combustion engine. Now I have to go take a pill.

[mrjubjub521]

I DONT GET IT

[gibs7]

Hi CarbideTip, nice demo. Do you think that we can achieve more vacuum by hydrogen implosion than with a vacuum pump? I'm wondering...

[CarbideTip]

Unsure how deep it will go. I think its 2/3 its original volume. The rate is another thing to consider.

[gibs7]

I learned that 1 liter of water gives 1850 liters of HHO, so can we take the reverse of this in a way to calculate the rate of implosion? Thanks.

[popeye11068]

Great demo , Thanks !

Now the question is...what would happen if you

heat up the cell tubes to engine temperatures?

[CarbideTip]

Next test is to heat the water to 180 and see if it will vaporize.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Well look at that. Excellent demo. Where's the HHO being generated?

[CarbideTip]

Inside the 1/2" SS pipe.

[SmartScarecrow]

Nicely demonstrated.

Please if you would try one thing to confirm a report I read about some time ago. On ignition, there may be a static charge created on the metal housing. Could give you a small jolt but should not hurt you. Are you game to grab it while you hit the button?

[CarbideTip]

I'm sure there is from the released electron.

[SGiHunter]

Well done

[CarbideTip]

Thank You. :-)

[rc9340]

Excellent Carbide, love the way you set this up to show proof of concept!

[CarbideTip]

Thank you,

Larger volume test next.