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  • What it means to be a Catholic today? In regard to faith, and the teachings of the faith, it should be the same as it was 2,000 years ago.

  • It's quite a pejorative label to claim that moral absolutism is something that is 'black and white'. Church teaching is based on natural law, and while I agree it's an issue of survival and conscience, it doesn't mean that one's conscience is the final word. Church teaching IN ITS FULLNESS works for everyone, it just means that bipolar, and your difficulty in accepting teaching, is YOUR CROSS, and we deal with it when we listen to Christ within His Church. Praying for you, GB

  • why dont you study the bible, there you shall find all the answers to your problems.

    i think if you pray to jesus and say his name over and over, ask jesus to give you peace, ask jesus to guide you, ask jesus to be your savior.,

    jesus christ is the answer to everything.

  • How can you take your Catholic Faith seriously, and then refuse to believe central and serious teachings of the Church. Don't kid yourself Darlin. If the teachings of the Catholic Church don't "ring true" for you, then you aren't Catholic. Getting to heaven should be your highest priority, and you do that by following faithfully all the teachings of the Church. Staying alive spiritually is more important that any physical life.

  • People really kid themselves that they are " following their conscience", when really they are just following their own selfish will. People don't have to listen to the Church, just like they don't have to get to heaven. It's their very easy choice. Reject the Church teaching, and do what ever you feel, hell has just never been so easy to get to.

  • Conscience does not mean you can make things up as you feel. It's not some get out of jail free card. The teaching of the Church says contraception is wrong, knowing this, means that your conscience has been informed that contraception is wrong. So having been told this, you are rebelling against the Church and God ultimately and against your own informed conscience. Conscience is no defense when you reject the Church teaching that informs your conscience. Don't get caught in the old trap of fo

  • OP, as a Catholic, I would say that you aren't Catholic because you don't believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church.

  • People can't depend on the RCC for truth. People need to find that out for themselves by reading the scriptures and using their own brains. The RCC has a long history of abuse, and continues on that path. I have seen much neurosis, depression, and anxiety in members of the RCC... which is born by believing doctrinal falsehoods presented by it's leaders. Scripture is truth...tradition is not.

  • So you like so many modernist "catholics" you conscience is now god...

  • Paragraph 1776, taken out of the context of the complete catechism, (cherry picked) might work that way, but we know that conscience is supposed to be properly formed, and in the case of a catholic, that means knowing your faith, knowing right from wrong, accepting what the church teaches and so forth. A properly formed conscience is then a santuary because it is reliable. You want what you want, and if that means twisting your conscience so it tells you what you want to hear, then so be it.

  • yawn

  • I wondered if this lady would be better in a protestant church? However, if it's ok for this lady to use birth control then it must be o.k. for everyone else. I wish the church would! However, it doesn't and I'm not sure this is what the church means by consience? However, from the sizes of families I see in Church I think the majority of Catholics probably use birth control? I've never heard a priest ask people who use birth control to refrain from receiving communion.

  • Sorry. I found your name on this video after my post. Hi Therese. =)

  • Hello Miss...Beliefnet??

    I just wanted to echo what many have said about following the Church & not reading so much into "conscience"as to create some kind of a sanctuary to moral relativism.

    I understand what you are saying regarding your struggles and I truely believe that you have struggled with a number of issues and/or teachings of Holy Church. Welcome to the club. I really believe the key is a deep prayer life and total submission to the Church. Not easy, but nessesary.

  • I've thought long and hard, and I believe my conscience has led me to know that theft is perfectly ok. Are people really going to miss their stuff that much? That's materialistic, stealing is fine according to my own truth.

  • We can't just go out there and choose because of our single interpretation otherwise there would be as many Churches as Beliefs, and if someone just don't like that fact I recently made mention they shouln't call themselves "Catholics", just pick another faith, that doesn't mean you're bad.

  • I'm going to quote the first words of Pope 6th when he inagurated his pontificate

    -"Eglesiam Sua", it means "The Church is his".

    Our conscience is inferior therefore we can not base ourselves simply on that. The fact of the matter is that Hitler had that conscience aspect as well, and look at what happened.

    Simple human conscience is committed to lot of things and I'm going to redound but they are called Commandments not Options.

  • @Steelidea so primacy of conscience as a dogma of the catholic church mean nothing to you? you are actively choosing to dismiss one of the most important dogmas of the church. i guess it is you who shouldn't call yourself a catholic.

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  • You forgot to bother yourself on pointing for me what are these you call: "Most important dogmas of the church" when you replied my comments.

    Another thing you forgot to point me out is, (exactly when or where did I said was a catholic?) I sure don't remember that thing either.

  • @Steelidea i didn't. PRIMACY OF CONSCIENCE. all dogmas "de fide" (top tier) come through reason by divine revelation. primacy of conscience can be traced in the catholic church as far back as augustine's works on natural law, and as recent as declarations by the current pope. it is also discussed in the vatican ii declaration dignitatis humanae.

  • @Steelidea and i do apologize for making that assumption. when you said "we" and "our" i thought you meant catholics, not humans. and because you said "as many Churches as Beliefs" that sounded like a very right wing catholic thing to say. and a reductio ad absurdum is not expected from an atheist (?? i don't want to assume again). our conscience is inferior to what exactly? scripture was revealed to a person, through his/her conscience. traditional revelation is of less importance than your own

  • I accept you apology, these days it takes a lot for most people to do that. Revelatios were casted into men chosen by God for a reason, and if someone is not going to follow them excatly how they are people should just not follow them instead of following the wrong way.

    This concept I just made mention of is called "Pragmatism" and Catholicism recognize it as a premise.

    Plus the Catholic Institution is a creation of "men" (as well) based on Judeo-Christian religion.

  • @Steelidea Following revelations exactly as they are is literalism, which is the opposite of pragmatism. Catholicism rejects both. literalism is impossible because of the many contradictions in scripture,meaning that god's revelation was often misunderstood by men. it's like playing a game of broken telephone. that's why one's own conscience trumps scripture, which should serve as a guide but not law. pragmatism is viewed as a selfish doctrine since practicality takes more value than goodness.

  • @Steelidea the conscience debate is still ongoing in the church. but you seem to be looking at the church as monolithic in its beliefs. that is not correct. there is a great diversity of beliefs and interpretations within the catholic church. that is why dogmas have a hierarchy. as you say, it is a human institution, with many figure heads who often disagree.

  • Endeed I agreed with you, that's exactly the reason why is up to your logical deduction whether if joint a cult with so much many human flaws on its own or believe in something solid and accurate, so I should address that back in way to Catholic followers who refuse it.

  • Thank you for your video, God Bless You, I have to say that when you say some Teachings just dont ring true, its your opinion and God gave it to you, but as Catholics we need to follow the Teaching to be not only true but they are the way to The Lord, yes you have a "conscience" but that is because God gave it toy you and its not a Sanctuary either. God Bless You and yor family.

  • Thank you for your video, God Bless You, I have to say that when you say some Teachings just dont ring true, its your opinion and God gave it to you, but as Catholics we need to follow the Teaching to be not only true but they are the way to The Lord, yes you have a "conscience" but that is because God gave it toy you and its not a Sanctuary either. God Bless You and yor family.

  • God Bless you, Thank God you are alive and you have the opportunity to give your opinion, i just think that you can not choose your catholic beliefs, yeah you have a "conscience" because of God, and his teachings are all Sacred, as Catholics we need to follow them entirely. As the Holy Bible tells us"The Truth will set you free"

  • God Bless you, Thank God you are alive and you have the opportunity to give your opinion, i just think that you can not choose your catholic beliefs, yeah you have a "conscience" because of God, and his teachings are all Sacred, as Catholics we need to follow them entirely. As the Holy Bible tells us"The Truth will set you free"

  • you speak as a "new ager"...you are your own god..... Christ said "I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE" Doesn't matter of being bi-polar or a recovering...there is but ONE truth. And that Truth which is Christ who left The Pope Head Of His Church. It is when people pick and choose from their own "conscience" (unformed) that they make crucial mistakes, just as in drug addiction, alcoholism, takes time to see the light, same goes for Church teaching. Obey or Disobey. Do God's Will, not yours.

  • so what your saying is your smarter than the chuch and that the chuch is fallable so basicly its up to interpretation meaning you are not catholic. you are making excuses to belive what you want to believe. what do you mean its not true for you the truth is one its not true for some and false for others, your saying truth is whatever you want it to be, if you dont abide by the catholic chuches teachings your not catholic.being at peace with you

  • If you belittle yourself and others by claiming an unprovable idea is greater then you are acting in an inhuman way. Look at our history - all distorted ideals can only work by diminishing humanity. By participating in this you implicate yourself in what is essentially another crime against humanity.

  • When you act in a way that is true to yourself you acknowledge your own humanity not god. This is one of the many attributes given to you by previous generations -you only have to look at all the derogatory remarks inspired by the black and white non reasoning religious bigots below. To reject your humanity is to become inhuman.

  • humans are fallable god is not and it you believe the church to bo infallable your catholic if you dont your not catholi,. if you come to a grey conclusion it means theres a contradiction in it if you believe in gray you dont believe in truth

  • You say ur first priority is "staying alive", ur first priority should be Christ !

    Cafeteria catholics are nothing more then disgusting liberals promoting immoral abominations.

    Long live the true Catholic church !

  • Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you!

  • People say the same thing about me. I just hope to lead by example that Catholicism isn't trading our own judgement to the men of the church.

    I am Catholic and I see so many benefits to contraception. Besides, the church supports something that has the same intention as condoms anyway (NFP).

    Thank you for your video, it's nice to see other Catholics who still use their consciousness.

  • the intention is not imoral its the means to the end thats immoral. to take drugs to make yourself unfertal is one, lying to your body and two treating fertility as if its a disease you need to take medicine for NFP is a way of using your natural cycle to space births.the can be an immoral means to a good end

  • Bless you. You and I both know our Lord came to take away our sins and not our mind. Catholics of my acquaintance have either quietly dissented by their family planning decisions or in myriad ways from dogma, or like me have "crossed the Thames" for another church. I just could not abide the self-righteousness of holier than the Pope types who, preach right-wing politics covered by a patina of religiosity. The hate cafeteria Catholics but they'll still take your donation!

  • "Cafeteria Catholic"? I left- with no regrets and no apologies whatsoever. As to the "cafeteria" part, I'm not even interested in the salad bar.

  • Hmmmm...interesting.

    So why do you feel that the Catholic Church is wrong about it's stand on Artificial Contraception? Guess that's a big question, isn't it. lol

    Peace be with you.

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