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  • @liger4100 I've never seen such a gay person like you. Get a life, and stop dictating others.

  • @liger4100 why do you even listen it then??

  • toooo fast

  • brilliant...pure music.

  • ohhh yeah!!

  • Indeed too fast - the subtlety is getting lost. By playing that fast a piece of this charakter cannot show to advantage!

  • It seems that everyone who plays an instrument, including myself, cannot help but bob or sway to the music we are playing. It's kind of funny to watch others do it and remind ourselves that we do it, too.  xD

  • the rondo i feel is a bit sloppy but this allegretto feels very allegretto to me. i didn't check a metronome, but doesn't this feel appropriate?

  • where's conductor???

  • @Alphaplz it's a chamber ensemble. in other words, they conduct themselves.

    

  • @Alphaplz they don't need 

  • haha btw mozart said that french ppl have no idea of good music , 200 yrs later it still seems to be the same , hehe^

  • whos the concert master? he looks like the chris.. something guy

  • WOW!!! WELL DONE!!!

  • mhschnur bin so einsam und gelangweilt will sanft gekrault werden hab auch bilder

  • Yeah very good playing i think but they are too fast and it kind of kills it, 5 stars still!

  • wenn das Allegretto sein soll, was ist dann Allegro, Allegro Vivace, Presto...??

  • Yeah this piece is a conversation, it doesn't need to happen so fast

  • Any musician educated in Mozart should know you don't play the repeats in the last minuet -_- disappointing.

  • Too fast, too bad.

  • you are right...

  • yeah good playing

  • Give them a break! It's the way they prefered to interpret it.... I like it! I have to ask the same question 80'schick did - Where have all you sexy musicians been hiding????

  • @musicaltiger29 - no kidding! Whew! Come play at my table!

  • I'm afraid this is just a little too fast at times.

  • Who is a violin guy i think he had a solo.

  • I agree, it's a little faster than I'm used to the minuetto being played but I think it suits the ensemble. Where the hell did all these sexy musicians come from?

  • im actually quite disappointed with the performance of this. it is played way to harshly and fast. mozart's 3rd movements were always peaceful and gentle. the 3/4 time signature and the fact that this is dance music has been takin into little or no consideration. they change tempo wildly each time they move to another phrase. loook at 1:20-1:30 and youll see what i mean.

  • @Llam4Face i don't think you can judge mozart's other pieces & say this should be peaceful & gentle. It's a minuet & trio. and it's characterized as a "bright" piece, particularly since it's in a major key. and it already contrasts the romanza's andante. a peaceful & gentle 3rd movement following a peaceful and sad 2nd movement doesn't seem characteristic of classical music.

  • @chosarang its got nothing to do with judging "mozart's" piece. its the way its performed, which is exaggerated in terms of dynamics and tempo.

  • way too fast

  • i disagree with musicaltiger and beast. the piece is Menuetto Allegretto. the definition of allegretto is, fast but not as fast as allegro. therefore the piece is played just as it should be. also the "harshness" is intentional. Mozart wrote those parts to be Forte and Staccato.

  • wow, you guys are pretty sweet, what with your musical interpretation.

    I just think it sounds kinda nice.

  • I have to agree with beast... although the group playing is good, this movement being a minuet needed more feel and not so much harshness.

  • They totally represents my idea.

  • is that sped up?!

  • Yes. Quite a bit. Must be close to lunch time. The other parts by the same group are also fast. Especially the Romanze. Bleh.

  • yeah i noticed how fast it was too!!! they must be eager to get out of there...my quartet is playing this, and their speed makes us look really lethargic...even though we're right!!! grrrr...

    they're especially fast on the "rondo"....it doesn't even sound good because they're going to fast!!!

  • beastinblack,

    I would agree with you...

    I have heard this piece played in a slower tempo. Other versions are more at andante. It is allegretto, by Mozart. I tend to go with what the composer wrote, to include tempo annotation. I have compared it to a metronome.

    First impression are a point, that does not include the origin.  You like, what you like. It be it. Cool with me; I like it too.

    What do you think, (static), over?

  • i think the actual video has been sped up, it sounds artificially quick

  • beastinblack,

    I do not know about the, "sped up," either. The musicians body language(s) does not look sped up. I like it though. Does it agree with metronomic tempo? I am going with allegretto, which sounds close to this tempo, (variation between andante and allegro.), that is at issue. Subjectively, I am going by feel. The up-tempo lift.

    Yet again, Mozart wrote allegretto.

    What do you think?

  • Going by 'feel' doesnt sound natural for the piece, less opportunity for feel or accents. Analysing it several times, with and without sound, the body language does not look natural. It doesnt give the listener a good enough oppotunity to reflect on the sublime message that the master himself wanted to portray. It doesnt have that stomp or sublime expression, as though they just want to get it over and done with...

  • beastinblack,

    Clearly, I support your perspective, on this wonderful piece. You, better than I, could surely understand my emotional foundation.

    I feel, therefore I know. Much more those that are gifted, for me, it be it.

    Was the piece meant to relax, or enjoy? I ask your perspective.

    Please?

  • The piece was meant to portray a message, which appears simple on the outside but complex within. It gives me the impression of a lost childhood, frustration, as well as reflection. To appreciate that it has to be slower so it can sound more organic, hence more human.

  • beastinblack,

    I am presuming the slower cadence prompted the impression. A piece can be defined in different ways, by different people.

    What emotes is subjective, and I fully agree with any interpretation, by anyone. That is how they perceive the piece to unfold. I imagine a lively evening.

    Best wishes.

  • In my opinion it was meant to be constant in its set of messages, considering it has been present in the space-time continuum since the beginning of the universe, mere mortal opinions aside, to speed it up like this is like genetic modification.

  • beastinblack,

    i can agree, with your perspective. Having heard this piece played, at varying tempo, I prefer this performance.

    If you want to chat a round...Genetic mutation is necessary to adapt to modern times, NOT. The nay is you. Are you sure rubber bands will not be as good as catgut? How about mics? Oh, Oh, and distortion. I imagine you cringe.

    Best wishes.

  • If you agree with my perspective , this version would not be of preference. Nothing to do with type of strings, as tempo and attitude type makes or breaks. This tempo and aggression is not how mozart captured this piece, hence watering down its purity. To make it different to what the master intended is quite frankly a different version of it. If you prefer it then thats cool, but you cannot say it is 'the original' in terms of what Mozart wanted to portray.

  • beastinblack,

    Perspective is subjective.  Initially, tempo annotation, (andante v. allegretto), was my assertion. I did ask your observation; metronome, and gathered to establish an objective statement. Do we agree on the masters directions on the sheet-music, pertaining to tempo? We are not debating an inharmonic. Is it andante, or allegetto?

    You?

  • It moves too quickly to appreciate the notes and what they speak, genetic mutation is not always necessary when something was perfect in the first place. I mean you cannot change the fact we are made of atoms or the laws of physics.

  • beastinblack,

    Genetic mutation is motion itself. The Laws of physics apply. Fact. I am not attempting to change elemental position, but assemble the basics. It sounds best, to you. Granted, acknowledged, and respected.

    Again, the annotation states allegretto, Based on metronomic standards does the played piece agree with Mozart's directions, devoid of our enthusiasm?

    You?

  • i've never seen performers move as elegantly as they do..

    this performance is very nice!

  • @nen0324

    hahha well its not about how they "move to this piece" but how they play it

    and they overdozed the tempo a lot

    nothing is more messed up than playing the wrong tempi ,

    so this is a bad performance ... a menuett should be a tempo you can dance to

    mozart would cry if he could hear how most orchestras destroy his works by playing it way to fast

    only because the modern tonedeaf ppl think its skillfull to play everything fast and pretending to get this piece by "moving elegantly"

  • i really enjoyed their performance,,

  • perfect

  • I love this movement, its fantastic, also I think an organ can fit in quite nicely with this piece!

  • I played the whole thing for violin camp, It was fun.

  • wow.....how beautiful!! lovely lovely lovely. i really like listening to mozart, but he's so hard to play.......very nice vid!! 20/20 lol

  • we played this for festival :D we played this and movement 1. ORCHESTRA ALL THE WAY BABY if it wasnt for us band would b nothing muhahaha jk theyre awsome

  • wow

  • really great :D

    amazing

    nice work :D

  • Wonderful youthful exuberance; I think the tempo is just fine...

  • I love the way they sway, shows a real passion for and involvement with the music

  • thank you so much i have this piece for competion and hopefully it can sound like this

  • Beautiful interpretation! Thank you for posting this!

  • What a great ensamble!!! Magnifique!

  • i agree

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