@Hejzwej thats bullshit and you know it. They claimed to not know that throwing saronite bombs at the platform to bring it back up was a glitch, when there was a phase where it all came back up on its own. It's a stupid fucking excuse for a defense that they use to try and defend their actions, when Paragon did it without glitching, and on their first LK attempt.
It wasn't unfair of Blizzard to strip Paragon of the World First achievement for this. But it WAS unfair to ban them on top of that. That is just adding insult to injury - and for a guild who dedicates so much time testing new mechanics and strategies for what Blizzard should already have compensated for, it's just a very low act for Blizzard. They should have accepted that a mistake in testing was made and reverted Paragon's progress to before Yogg.
My gosh , RS lol. So you wana tell me that TBC final raid was funwell. LOL.
Blizzard allways put some stupid raid two months before new expasion. That exp is called wrath of the LK so, LK is final content for me and my guild. And just to answer to ur other comment - naxx40 in vanilla was way harder then LK. And do u know why? Back then there was no wowhead or wowwiki or mmo etc etc etc. You go on boss and find tactic alone , no other help. LK is a joke itwashardfirst timenow we 1sht
@DeppTDi WoWWiki exists since 2004, Wowhead since 2006 and Thottbot basically since WoW came out. Naxx40 was probably not as hard as you remember it because back then, everyone had a lot less experience in raiding. There were plenty of strategy guides back then already.
Sorry I cant agree with you. Here for example there is already videos in site , bout bosses in cataclysm. Back in vanila all was new and boss tactics shows up after someone who killed the boss post tactic in bosskilers. And yep , you are right bout the low expirience back then , but even with no game expiriance now there is a lot of information , macros, dbm and plenty of tips for every class for every encounter. That I was saing
For the people "caring" so much , its an 11min vid, the 2 adds save about 30sec...OH NO THEY WOULD HAVE SO HIT ENRAGE h wait no they wouldnt... Its not exactly a huge deal more so than the warlock portal trick on LK P2 valkyrs... which ever guild uses.
The damage reduction affects the spell when it is cast, not when it lands and you see the numbers. If you pay attention, you can see that diminish power is not up when he finishes casting the spell.
@Magha112 blizzard banned ensidia for a bug abuse and took the world first from them..what blizzard did was crap because they w8 for ensidia and paragon etc to go there and test the fight...paragon took the game 12 hours earlier than ensidia but still ensidia got world first and after 1 whole day paragon did.blizzard shouldnt have banned ensidia for a bug abuse,because it is up to blizzard to keep clean of bugs.
Indeed, phase 1 is exactly the same as with 1 watcher apart from the 10% less dmg done, but that's no problem in 10man at all. And they end up with one add after sara stops spawning p1 adds, and that's exactly what my guild got aswell everytime doing it the "legit" way.
@pawseh As this video is a year old, the fight is no longer challenging just to let you know. Also you need to read that this is "Alone in the darkness" which is the hardest mode you can fight yogg-saron on, it used to require clever kiting of the adds in phase 3 to not allow them to heal up the other adds due to them not dying to thorim.
Sure its not an exploit when you avoid a certain part of the fight mechanics to get ahead on watchers. I mean its so easy to fail of some noob without spelldetail turned up is flaling his arms into every cloud spawning adds left and right. my thoughts are.. Hey Paragon if your going to post an alone in the darkness kill (only the most challenging kill ingame) dont start the fight spawning 2guardians outside.EPIC FAIL!!!
Sure is an exploit bro, see the half dozen comments from a month ago. Blizz even fixed it later. Hotfix (2009-06-17): "Once the Yogg-Saron encounter is started players outside of Yogg-Saron's area will begin to go insane, after 15 seconds."
No point in lying about it. Paragon have nothing to prove after getting a world 2nd on Death's Demise after all.
lol i was like WHAT THE FUCK MY GUILD HAS KILLED THIS GUY??? but then i realized that i am in a raiding guild named Paragon on the realm kul' tiras is US so this is just a kindof wierd coincidence i guesse
Take a look at other videos of the encounter, wonder why they all skip the pull and cut straight to phase2? I'm not saying this ain't exploit, I'm saying everyone uses it (or used, it's fixed now). And nerds screaming about credibility is just lol, Nihilum Twins-kill anyone?
As cut and dry as an exploit that you will ever see. Grats Paragon for your incredible stupidity in posting this on YouTube - you will be for ever known as exploiters. People are unlikely to take any of your past and future achievements seriously, no matter how skilled you are as players.
Most sites says this is an exploit, Check out WoR, they have removed this video from their site...just own it Paragon, you found an exploit in the game...gratz!
Absolutely an exploit. They have a mage invis in and spawn multiple guardians, then he accepts a warlock summon as invis is wearing off. This "spawns" two extra guardians that they then burn to low hp outside the room before they even start the fight. Then they walk in, drag the two to the middle, kill them quick.
It does 2 things: first, it gives them a LOT more time on the enrage. Second, it spreads out the adds more. They don't get to the chain spawn phase, ever.
Why is the enrage timer what you care about when they (according to boss MODS) had 5:19 left? Enrage clearly wasn't the issue. If anything, spawn rate in phase 1 was. Maybe they'd get one more if they didn't do that at the beginning, I don't really know. But I don't see any other reasons why they would do this.
Additional time? What in the bloody hell are you on about? They had 5:19 left on Berserk according to the boss mod.
Though I guess by doing that delays the increase in spawn rate of the adds in phase 1. I'm not sure if I'd call it an exploit or not, but of course it (assuming I'm correct) will make phase 2 less hectic - at least until all tentacles are down outside and Yogg-Saron is still stunned.
21 people are members of Method
drapa25 10 months ago
@drapa25
Does that mean those 21 still can't get the world 1st. I think so.
dispatchfan3120 6 months ago
Whats the song at 6:06?
psp91011 11 months ago 4
You have mail!
xXsopainfulyetXx 11 months ago
diivil<3
sangrealnotreal 1 year ago
The difference between the Ensidia LK exploit and this:
Ensidia didn't know it was an exploit. It's not fair.
Hejzwej 1 year ago
@Hejzwej thats bullshit and you know it. They claimed to not know that throwing saronite bombs at the platform to bring it back up was a glitch, when there was a phase where it all came back up on its own. It's a stupid fucking excuse for a defense that they use to try and defend their actions, when Paragon did it without glitching, and on their first LK attempt.
AntVenom 1 year ago
@AntVenom That's bullshit, and you know it. If they knew it was a glitch, they wouldn't take the risk to abuse it.
Hejzwej 1 year ago
@GraniteAge Plasma posted his comment a year ago, when yogg p3 was hard
ffxdanzop 1 year ago
It wasn't unfair of Blizzard to strip Paragon of the World First achievement for this. But it WAS unfair to ban them on top of that. That is just adding insult to injury - and for a guild who dedicates so much time testing new mechanics and strategies for what Blizzard should already have compensated for, it's just a very low act for Blizzard. They should have accepted that a mistake in testing was made and reverted Paragon's progress to before Yogg.
homeabortion 1 year ago
today we done it just for fun and achivments and alone in darkness is harder from every ICC boss on heroic mod ...
Ulduar shoud been last final raid , not ICC but ... blizard shits
DeppTDi 1 year ago
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elgkungen 1 year ago
@elgkungen
My gosh , RS lol. So you wana tell me that TBC final raid was funwell. LOL.
Blizzard allways put some stupid raid two months before new expasion. That exp is called wrath of the LK so, LK is final content for me and my guild. And just to answer to ur other comment - naxx40 in vanilla was way harder then LK. And do u know why? Back then there was no wowhead or wowwiki or mmo etc etc etc. You go on boss and find tactic alone , no other help. LK is a joke itwashardfirst timenow we 1sht
DeppTDi 1 year ago
@DeppTDi Naxxramas was a freakin bug row of doom, Kel'Thuzad would've died 2 months earlier if he didn't despawn at 1%. :P
horseman217 1 year ago
@DeppTDi WoWWiki exists since 2004, Wowhead since 2006 and Thottbot basically since WoW came out. Naxx40 was probably not as hard as you remember it because back then, everyone had a lot less experience in raiding. There were plenty of strategy guides back then already.
taviona 1 year ago
@taviona
Sorry I cant agree with you. Here for example there is already videos in site , bout bosses in cataclysm. Back in vanila all was new and boss tactics shows up after someone who killed the boss post tactic in bosskilers. And yep , you are right bout the low expirience back then , but even with no game expiriance now there is a lot of information , macros, dbm and plenty of tips for every class for every encounter. That I was saing
DeppTDi 1 year ago
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elgkungen 1 year ago
What is the second sond called? ): more or less in 6:45
Torrentee65 1 year ago
its actually called clever use of game mechanics
sangrealnotreal 1 year ago
Can some one list me the add-ons the warlock is using
kiyubi1234 1 year ago
For the people "caring" so much , its an 11min vid, the 2 adds save about 30sec...OH NO THEY WOULD HAVE SO HIT ENRAGE h wait no they wouldnt... Its not exactly a huge deal more so than the warlock portal trick on LK P2 valkyrs... which ever guild uses.
Fireslave1 1 year ago
This lock kind of blows on turning.
Chodozia 2 years ago
@Chodozia I'd like to see you in his position.
til then, say nothing and don't watch the video then.
sbrachow1 2 years ago
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dosier9 2 years ago
what's the 2nd song called?
jedimastercosmin 2 years ago
what's the name of the addon that displays the second of cd on the spells?
Mortinger91 2 years ago
OmniCC
Infrarowd 2 years ago
Freaking cool video fellas! - Nice did :)
lund3000 2 years ago
I think you are on my Friends Server Hydraxis
knockdoun 2 years ago
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dosier9 2 years ago
Old bear model RIP :(
Horrendour 2 years ago
the achievement they got was "alone in the darkness" which is 0 keepers, gg
psp91011 2 years ago
onnee iha vitsisti
Forppa 2 years ago
never got to this boss, but it looks alot like the C'Thun fight from AQ40?
laggynewbie 2 years ago
hes an old god like C'thun was
psp91011 2 years ago
Ensidia Fanboys lol
Psoydogley 2 years ago
no but they did world first trial of the grand crusader lol...
95bilaho95 2 years ago
Thats some INSAIN dps hes pullin all i see is crits and 10k's ... Bravo
warcraftaddictlol 2 years ago
lol, its called loads of SP and crit rating
lolol12334 2 years ago
10k is for a warlock not much
Volken321 2 years ago
Diminish Power — Weakens enemy units in a large area around the caster (50,000 yards), reducing the damage they do by 20%.
He did a few 17k's with that debuff. Most 9-13k.
FurbyMatter 2 years ago
yes and?^^ warlocks do grerat dmg with good gear and this warock has godd gear =)
I had self a warlocktwink with Uldauer25HM-Gear and i do 16-19k crits (Destro)
Volken321 2 years ago
The damage reduction affects the spell when it is cast, not when it lands and you see the numbers. If you pay attention, you can see that diminish power is not up when he finishes casting the spell.
lleksikon 2 years ago
Anyone know what interface addon is used here?
foozbot 2 years ago
Im talking about being out side of the room so you dont have to deal with somone accidentally triggering green smoke.
I know you can spawn extras to get ahead but they werent in the room to avoid more green smoke and just chilling outside killing guardians.
LEARN TO READ FAGGIT QUIT PLAYING ON FUCKING PRIVATE SERVERS!
NSalvation 2 years ago
this guild and Stars > Ensidia
Magha112 2 years ago
i don't think ensidia gives a shit about achievements....they just want world firsts and that's what they do...
kev220077 2 years ago
well killing Yogg saron with no watchers is also a world first...
knakpoolse 2 years ago
still this guild didnt do it world first at all
lolol12334 2 years ago
Getting a world first is an achievement. Lol
topturkey2 2 years ago
just because they did this before ensidia? Ensidia is a great guild and is as good as ensidia.
Okayhmhm 2 years ago
ensidia is a good guild and is as good as ensidia?lol
pelo177 2 years ago
@Magha112 blizzard banned ensidia for a bug abuse and took the world first from them..what blizzard did was crap because they w8 for ensidia and paragon etc to go there and test the fight...paragon took the game 12 hours earlier than ensidia but still ensidia got world first and after 1 whole day paragon did.blizzard shouldnt have banned ensidia for a bug abuse,because it is up to blizzard to keep clean of bugs.
Ragetemplar 1 year ago
Lol mate, it may be an exploit but phase 1 is by no means the hard part of the fight, phase 3 is far more difficult.
Plasma111 2 years ago 11
Indeed, phase 1 is exactly the same as with 1 watcher apart from the 10% less dmg done, but that's no problem in 10man at all. And they end up with one add after sara stops spawning p1 adds, and that's exactly what my guild got aswell everytime doing it the "legit" way.
ThaSpirit 2 years ago
@Plasma111 Whats the hard part with phase 3 exactly? :O the part when u dont look at Yogg saron and you have about 8 minutes to kill him?
pawseh 1 year ago
@pawseh As this video is a year old, the fight is no longer challenging just to let you know. Also you need to read that this is "Alone in the darkness" which is the hardest mode you can fight yogg-saron on, it used to require clever kiting of the adds in phase 3 to not allow them to heal up the other adds due to them not dying to thorim.
Plasma111 1 year ago
@Plasma111 yes.. a year ago.
GraniteAge 1 year ago
Sure its not an exploit when you avoid a certain part of the fight mechanics to get ahead on watchers. I mean its so easy to fail of some noob without spelldetail turned up is flaling his arms into every cloud spawning adds left and right. my thoughts are.. Hey Paragon if your going to post an alone in the darkness kill (only the most challenging kill ingame) dont start the fight spawning 2guardians outside.EPIC FAIL!!!
NSalvation 2 years ago
watchers.. I ment Guardians** lol FAILL!!
NSalvation 2 years ago
/facepalm.
You are an idiot. Spawning 2 guardians in phase 1 = less time in phase 1 = more time for rest of the fight yes?
yeskyl93 2 years ago
Those 2 guardians in phase 1 really helped them since they have 5:20 sec left till enrage after he was killed ja?
Kotik112 2 years ago
Learn the fight.
topturkey2 2 years ago
Sure is an exploit bro, see the half dozen comments from a month ago. Blizz even fixed it later. Hotfix (2009-06-17): "Once the Yogg-Saron encounter is started players outside of Yogg-Saron's area will begin to go insane, after 15 seconds."
No point in lying about it. Paragon have nothing to prove after getting a world 2nd on Death's Demise after all.
Monkeyballs25 2 years ago
They just did this on 25 man
GRATZ
2nd in the world
GeorgeMagna 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Nice exploit brah.
Monkeyballs25 2 years ago
gz!
Aranio81 2 years ago
whats that addon showing their name above their heads?
Linnets 2 years ago
almost went insane there.
garbear1234565 2 years ago
lol i was like WHAT THE FUCK MY GUILD HAS KILLED THIS GUY??? but then i realized that i am in a raiding guild named Paragon on the realm kul' tiras is US so this is just a kindof wierd coincidence i guesse
BlurredVisi0n 2 years ago
Take a look at other videos of the encounter, wonder why they all skip the pull and cut straight to phase2? I'm not saying this ain't exploit, I'm saying everyone uses it (or used, it's fixed now). And nerds screaming about credibility is just lol, Nihilum Twins-kill anyone?
rddz 2 years ago
plz anyone tell me the addon on combat nubmers text plz i search this adon long ago!!!!
k850stratos 2 years ago
Whats that addon that shows the range in numbers?
meftulema 2 years ago
Paragon FTW!
Reestinpeace 2 years ago
the yogg-saron enrage timer is 15 minutes...
Resil27021 2 years ago
As cut and dry as an exploit that you will ever see. Grats Paragon for your incredible stupidity in posting this on YouTube - you will be for ever known as exploiters. People are unlikely to take any of your past and future achievements seriously, no matter how skilled you are as players.
colonelclaw 2 years ago
Most sites says this is an exploit, Check out WoR, they have removed this video from their site...just own it Paragon, you found an exploit in the game...gratz!
LaptuaZ 2 years ago
World of Raids didnt remove this vid from their site.. WTH are you saying... i just came to youtube since i saw a thread about this vid.
Sikakuhc 2 years ago
Absolutely an exploit. They have a mage invis in and spawn multiple guardians, then he accepts a warlock summon as invis is wearing off. This "spawns" two extra guardians that they then burn to low hp outside the room before they even start the fight. Then they walk in, drag the two to the middle, kill them quick.
It does 2 things: first, it gives them a LOT more time on the enrage. Second, it spreads out the adds more. They don't get to the chain spawn phase, ever.
BlacksenLB 2 years ago 9
Why is the enrage timer what you care about when they (according to boss MODS) had 5:19 left? Enrage clearly wasn't the issue. If anything, spawn rate in phase 1 was. Maybe they'd get one more if they didn't do that at the beginning, I don't really know. But I don't see any other reasons why they would do this.
fedeboef 2 years ago
"worst taste in music. "
Mute + own sounds, how hard is it?
rddz 2 years ago 2
If the enrage timer doesn't start when they pull those two adds, it's an exploit.
They're idiots for posting this on YouTube. Big Blizzard is watching ;)
Lasrbeast 2 years ago
Good job on exploit... lawl
Shadowui 2 years ago
That's not an exploit its clever use of game mechanics. Stop trying to diminish something that you can't do yourself.
Co-Signing all of This, if it's possible to do i wouldn't consider it an exploit you can blame blizzard for it otherwise
joepescifromcasino 2 years ago
if exploit = something you cant do, that means exploits dont exist idiot!
exploiting is when you use a fault in a system for your own advantage
Dalroc 2 years ago
Additional time? What in the bloody hell are you on about? They had 5:19 left on Berserk according to the boss mod.
Though I guess by doing that delays the increase in spawn rate of the adds in phase 1. I'm not sure if I'd call it an exploit or not, but of course it (assuming I'm correct) will make phase 2 less hectic - at least until all tentacles are down outside and Yogg-Saron is still stunned.
fedeboef 2 years ago 3
Hmm so you used an exploit to give yourselves aditional time on the fight?
Your mod timers start 30seconds after first mob is 'pulled'. Pretty lame.
I have 1 light in the darkenss for 10man which wasnt that hard. Exploiting is bad m'kay.
Voodooraydruid 2 years ago
Very nice
999Maxy999 2 years ago
whats up with the gayboy opera techno
enablethedevil 2 years ago
Exactly what I think every time someone makes a video like this. Seems the best guilds also have the worst taste in music.
thorton 2 years ago
Thats not an exploit its clever use of game mechanics. Stop trying to diminish something that you can't do yourself.
XnoholeX 2 years ago
exploits ftw?
Moksulini 2 years ago
Exploiting phase1 mechanics much? Is that really necessary?
paraalso 2 years ago 3
So, you guys got Death's Demise correct?
TaurenWarchief 2 years ago
oh wait thats for the 25 man nvr mind
TaurenWarchief 2 years ago
How did the mage teleport to the beginning area after triggering two guardian spawns at the start of the fight?
thesu06 2 years ago
I think he got a pending summoning, and accepted that.
moltam88 2 years ago 3
Nice video =)
Make more please!!^^
1st!!
IceIceFrozo 2 years ago