Can everyone calm down about the capabilities of the 2 handhelds and which one is superior/inferior. There is a gap between performance but what it really comes down to is the developers and how much time and/or effort they put into making a game for the platform
Looks pre rendered, anyway. The bad thing is that probably we are never going to see this beautiful images on a 3ds, mostly because of the limited ram and cpu that it have, and because it don´t uses all the power of the gpu, because it have to render two images at the same time to show that nice 3d effect.
-Who is to says this is the maximum level of graphic this GPU can produce? This is a vid showcasing what the the GPU is capable of, NOT a vid showcasing the MAXIMUM capability of the gpu
If you are going by which handheld has better hardware it's the Vita hands down.That said both handhelds are quite nice and i expect some great games from them.Vita will have games that look as good Ps3/360 games later in it's life cycle.The 3ds will be gamecube with current rendering technique's.Also people Vita has 512mb of system memory and 128mb of Vram..compared to 128mb total ram on 3ds.Don't expect to see the 3ds to outperform Vita.At the end it's all about software not hardware.
@risseer23 actually the quality of 3ds games with the PICA200 is built in such a way to handle graphical techniques akin to that of direct x 10 and 10 plus.. of course it can't handle the exact specifications of direct x 10 but neither can the vita in terms of tessellations and exact numbers of polygons because of their limitations as handhelds so the 3ds and the vita can never do current gen but from a lower scale standpoint they come pretty damn close. the vita is in fact powerful.
@SPS148669 yup. true true. After all computers are used for so much more and have a wealth of uses outside of games. I know personally my laptop plays ut3 better than any console can lol
@risseer23 but the 3ds is more dynamic and unique than the vita..the vita uses condensed frameworks used on consoles but even then cannot deliver the same power and graphical properties of the ps3 or 360 but in the end it's easier for for devs to port to vita because of it's power but the PICA200 is capable of displays up to 800p surpassing 360's native 720p but not near 360's or ps3's 1080p. I uploaded the true comparison between vita and ps3 and it's nice..but its not that powerful
@BS73PKE The image is supposed to be real time (the skys+mountain+river probably a pre rendered texture on a skydome yeah) Limited Ram? The thing has I believe 128MB of high speed RAM, the DS had 4MB, even the original PSP had 32MB later had 64MB, I wouldn't call it limited.
Also it has to render 3 images - the 2 3Ds, and the bottom screen ;)
PSP could not use 64 MB for games though since games would not work for original 32MB PSP. The extra 32 MB was only for enhanced browser memory and UMD cache. Likeywise Ps Vita has a whopping 512 MB but 256 is reserved for OS and crosschat and games can only use 256 MB. PS Vita also uses the aging and slower SDRAM which is inferior to the FCRAM of the 3DS when it come to speed.
@SPS148669 ahh I didnt know if the memory couldn't be fully used in games or not, 256mb usable is not bad for a console but yeah it is way to slow - do you know if that 256 counts the Vram or is it just general purpose ram?
@windwakerpikmin the ps vita and 3ds both have 200mhz gpu. But the pica200 can be overclocked to 400mhz. I dont know if the vita can. Also the vita's gpu only has directx 9 while the 3ds has directx 10+ :D
@seikeith Umm no it doesn't it runs on OpenGL ES 1.1.Which get improved on each year.It's not Directx10+ Compatible as you say.The Vita's graphics chip can run in DirectX 10.1 as well use OpenGL ES 2.0.You need to understand that the Pica200 gpu is quite old was made back in 2006 while the Vita's Gpu SGX543MP4 was announced in 2009.So their's a good 3 year gap between them and it shows.
@seikeith well.. depending on the framework of a game the gpu of the 3ds can run into frame rate issues... i've found them in mercenaries 3d... with work though this problem can be solved but the vita has a quad-core processor to help in the frames of the game.. both however use a 200mhz gpu so they both pack a punch in respective feilds
@seikeith and one more thing before i forget.. the gpu for the vita is a custom quad core... now while this may mean faster frame rates and better texturing.. vita still has to cut back on polygons and certain special graphical qualities of most consoles today... such as tessalations. however.... it's all for not because I do appreciate both of them and plan on getting both.. i find 3ds and vita to be equal
but the main issue of the Vita is the price if you wanna use confortably your console. I am in EU so I will probably take an US version, as it will cost cheaper for me!
If the memory card of the Vita are this much expensive it's because Sony want to earn money from it while they lose from the Vita, but the price for are too much when you look on the memory card market. If you look well, you can have 32gb class10 MicroSD for less than 45$. Why should I pay 90$ for VIta MC, same for 30$ on 4gb
I said Resident Evil Revelation use 4gb cartridge but currently Nintendo can provide up to 8gb cartidge! In I don't know how many years it will be probably higher, like it was for all cartridge supported conole. If it's like for the Neogeo, we can guess than the higher the cartridge used, the higher the graphics quality can be(because high qualities assets take more place than lower..)
That's very good also for the Vita to take cartridge instead of disc. It's currently far much better than disk
One thing i hate about the 3ds is that it got console graphics because of developers while the ps vita got console graphics because of its specs. In reallity the 3ds is less powerfull than a ps2 the only thing saving it is dedicated developers who found a way for it to run console graphics on it. Nintendo really cheaped out this time. Really a 400 mhz prossesor while the vita has a quad core 1ghz prossecor. The only reason the 3ds still dosnt cost as much as the ps vita is because of poor sales
@Adrammalech7570 All im saying is Nintendo Cheaped Out. As I said before the only thing helping the 3ds from being a complete fail is dedicated developers. Plus honestly the 3ds does not have that much good games. Also games made for both the 3ds and vita will more than likely be console like on the vita and the 3ds will be mobile like. The point is Nintendo never looks to push forward. They are always about 3-5 years behind time. Its 2011 mobile gamers want good games with console graphics.
@Eddyjj24baller You should realize that graphics only equate to part of the gaming experience. If graphics were all that mattered, the PSP would have sold head and heels over the DS. Obviously, Nintendo must be doing something right here. Since Starfox 3D and Zelda, OOT 3D came out, the 3DS started selling a lot faster as well.
As for the original price, yes I agree that was pretty steep, but being somewhat smart, I waited for the inevitable price drop, and it was well worth the $160.
@Adrammalech7570 On the contrare my friend back then we didnt care but now we do. 75% of mobile gamers now a days want console graphics on the go . The 3ds right now in my eyes is not that bad but after looking at the ps vita it doesnt seem that good. In fact if you ask 3ds owners if the 3ds is fun and addicting atleast 40% would say no. I play cousins 3ds often and I could tell for a fact that the 3ds is just not bad but not that good. The 3ds is one of nintendoes most unsucssesful products.
@Eddyjj24baller When the DS first came out, a lot of people thought it would flop too, and thought the PSP would be the dominant handheld, but obviously, that did not turn out to be true.
I'm not trying to say the 3DS will beat out the PSP Vita, but I'm saying that it is still really early in the 3DS's life, and the PSP hasn't even come out yet, so it's impossible to see how they will compare in the future.
And finally, graphics are worthless if the game itself is poo. Look at Brink.
@troy1002x Ive tried it bro and I could tell you that it is not bad but it is not that good. And yeah the gpu does help it a bit but it is still mainly developers .
@Eddyjj24baller So devs should always rely on technology instead of working around it? No wonder we have uninspired games like Uncharted clogging the air waves.
@AguyinaRPG Bro I know what you said is a very logical statement but honestly we all know if the 3ds had the vitas chip and the vita had the 3ds' chip and both could produce these graphics all of the Nintendo fanboys would say sony cheaped out. Yes your right devs should not rely on technology but the 3ds' technology is very embarrasing. The vitas chip is 10x faster plus it has a much better gpu and far more ram. Btw Im not a sony fanboy( if u thought so) I actually hated sony before the vita.
@AguyinaRPG Bro I know what you said is a very logical statement but honestly we all know if the 3ds had the vitas chip and the vita had the 3ds' chip and both could produce these graphics all of the Nintendo fanboys would say sony cheaped out. Yes your right devs should not rely on technology but the 3ds' technology is very embarrasing. The vitas chip is 10x faster plus it has a much better gpu and far more ram. Btw Im not a sony fanboy( if u thought so) I actually hated sony before the vita.
@Eddyjj24baller actually, there's somethign I realized about Nintendo, and it's that Nintendo always does this sort of thing since the SNES days. The SNES wasn't powerful, but the graphics chip on it had some really cool effects like Mode7, transparency, etc. The N64 graphics wasnt powerful but it had texture filter, GC wasn't powerful but for some reason developers made better looking games on it. Same thing for DS, it has a loot of graphical features despite its weakness
@Eddyjj24baller But what you said "it got console graphics because of developers while the ps vita got console graphics because of its specs", it sounds like you're saying that they both have identical console graphics, which makes no sense in your argument.
@Eddyjj24baller Weaker then a PS2 but produces Xbox360 graphics? Developers can't make it do that. If it's weaker then a PS2 it would make PS2 graphic games.
@Sotendo360 Actually developers can. Also i was being nice. If you look at the 3ds' specs alot of people would say its on par with a game cube.Ex: The 3ds has a 400 mhz proccesor while the gamecube has a 485 mhz proccessor( the higher the better). Developers them selfs said they have found ways to work around the 3ds' limitations. Ex 2: the ps vita has a quad core 1ghz proccesors which is 10x more powerful than the 3ds'. Also the 360 has an almost 20x faster cpu.So please dont be such a fanboy.
@Eddyjj24baller Nintendo wasn't necessarily being bad with the processor they chose. the graphics on the 3ds are beautiful and more than enough. Nintendo just didn't feel like they needed to go overboard, as the old cliche saying goes, games aren't all about graphics. but the games on the 3ds are absolutely beautiful and run smoothly. Nintendo does things their way. The 3D effect when done correctly is so beautiful, graphically it looks like it's in a league of it's own, anyway.
@Eddyjj24baller but btw, the developers of conduit 2 are saying the 3DS is more powerful than the wii in a lot of ways. For a handheld that's awesome, again, it's a handheld, those graphics are more than enough and look beautiful on the size of the screen...with the 3d effect. We haven't even seen what the 3ds can really do, usually later in a systems life the developers start to use the hardware more effectively. the games we've already seen are lovely (kid icarus for example) imagine the futur
So you say its only because of the devs that 3DS games can look good? So Monster Hunter 3G looks better than any of the PS2 Monster Hunters just because Capcom felt like it?
@lordrath2000 Actually its not only because of devs. Even though the 3ds is very weak in horsepower compared to the vita but its not that far form a ps2. And plus it rendering these games on a small sceen vs the ps2 on a huge screen so thats why mh looks like a ps2 game. Also You are not getting what im saying. Nintendo made the 3ds to only be a bit better than the psp but now adays what u can do with weak technology is preaty amazing. Btw i hate sony but i cant lie and defend nintendo.
I'll say one last thing, and that will be all. The 3DS made to be able to output games with models that look like either Gamecube or Wii level models, with textures around Wii level, maybe higher, and with advanced shaders that are closer to 360 and PS3, something the Wii can't do. That's what it is, and that is what devs can take advantage of. And I said MH3G on 3DS looks BETTER than any of the PS2 MH games. It looks more like MH3 with better lighting and shadows.
@Eddyjj24baller damn ur already complaining about graphics and the systems isnt even at its full scale yet im sure sony is gana push nintendo to make quality titles and next yeah im sure that ea activision ubisoft and many more are gana show off what the system is able to do when they launch the slider pad attachment next yeah and besides psvita is gana have a few good launch games then next the real developmet starts so dont judge the consoles just yet
@Eddyjj24baller: YOU ARE WRONG! The Processor of Vita WON`T RUn on 1 Ghz! You know why? Ah, of course there is a battery still in there! xD You are stupid that you even don`t know that fact. Go read it and then you will learn it. Vita`S quadcore will run at 600-800 Mhz. Not even publiced. But it won´t run with 1 ghz. Sony itself said that!
@SmartSirius Could u please tell at which point i said the vitas cpu would run at 1gz. Having 1gz and running at 1gz are two different things. The ps vita has a 1ghz quad core proccesor but it is downclocked to about 800 mhz but when ever the want the could clock it up to 1gz with an software update(but that would kill the battery faster and probably cause crashes). Next time please dont call some one stupid until you know COMPLETE facts.
@Eddyjj24baller the Vitas GPU is 200mhz actually- The two achieve graphics differently, the 3DS has higher GPU but Vita has higher CPU and CPU influenced/controlled GPU. Nintendo tends to let the GPU handle itself and have a weaker CPU. The 3DS has console graphics because devs use the system the way it should be used- even Resident Evil Revelations is not pushing the 3DS system graphically *said by capcom* Nintendo has been the kind of company where devs can get away with half assed work.
@leatopia Um I was talking about the cpu. But the gpu is 200 mhz but what you must remember is that it gpu is equal to 800mz because it is quad which means 200 x 4= 800. Which aloan is two time powerfull than the 3ds cpu alone. Btw 400 mhz was for the 3ds cpu not the gpu( which is very low). The only thing saving it is its pretty good graphics chip
@Eddyjj24baller i think you have a few things wrong- the Vita has only 1 GPU which is 200mhz-even with 4 cores they all wont be focused on the GPU- the more cores mean the more the system can do at once- basically- so lets say even with 3 of those cores they will be focusing on using that GPU's features, it wont be multiplying anything- just using everything to the fullest because CPU support is there. Also the Pica200 can be clocked up to 400mhz. The 3DS has the 2008 chip which clocks that high
@Eddyjj24baller continued due to character limit* I think you are confusing the 3Ds GPU and CPU. The CPU is not confirmed or known at the moment but its rumored to have 2x ARM-11 chips clocked at 220 each or something. The GPU is the Pica200 chip *in this video* There are two versions of the chip, the 2006 model and the 2008 model called mastro3G. The 3DS has the 3G model which can be clocked as high as 400mhz- we know this because the 3G model contains features already present in some games.
@Eddyjj24baller: There is a slight problem with your argument, the 3DS is stronger than a Gamecube, and the Gamecube was stronger than the PS2. Also where did you get 400 mhz? So far there is no info on the 3DS' CPU besides that it's a custome ARM 11. Some people are even guessing a duel core ARM 11. Show me sources or get out.
@pikachumasters12 lol do you even know that a producer has the ability to put as many ghz or mhz a any amount core processor??? Plus the break down of the 3ds shows that the specs of the cpu is 2core 200mhz. Well I wouldnt blame you for saying that with all of the other companies releasing 1gz or better dual core cpus. But thatsNintendo they always use outdated cpus in there devices. Even they know that there cou sucks thats why even on ther website the say nothing about it in the specs section
@Eddyjj24baller too bad im a computer tech and youre just a plain idiot, Mhz do crap, and those dual cores arent worth shit since they arent stand alone cpus.
@pikachumasters12 So umm how am I a idiot for pointing what you didnt know??? You have the heart to say that I dont have no clue about computers when you dont even know one of the most basic thing about them. And yes mhz does crap I think we all knew that. Plus dual core is a stand alone cpu it just has 2 processors in it. Jeez some people just think they know it all.
@pikachumasters12 My bad there. Just thought bout it and your right the only thing though it still functions like regular cpu would. I garantee if u were to put a regular 2gz processor witha seperate gpu vs a dual core tegra or a5 i garantee they would be just as fast.
@beatdathaguy98 What non sense you "lol" to? I think he is talking about the GPU not the CPU.
The VIta : GPU is 4core(no real speed info) CPU is 4 core UP TO 2ghz(we don't know for sure it will be 2ghz, might be 1,5 or less depending of Sony's will to reduce power consumption)
3DS CPU is ARM11 1ghz dual core. GPU is the PICA200 GPU 400mhz
The Vita is more powerful for sure, but the 3DS is not as crap that Eddyj mean!
@beatdathaguy98 Yeah, the vita is much more powerful.. but more expensive at the same time. If you talk about the potential technicaly, yes. But what is good about the video games is you can have very good game even with not the best looking graphics. (otherwise nobody would love Tetris, Bomberman etc..) When I see Resident Evil Revelations, I don't see many current early game on Vita who are better looking. Only Uncharted and Gravity Rush come to mind!
@beatdathaguy98 Why you talk about Mercenaries when I mention Revelations? Oo
And I PLAYED to Revelations and a lot of common persons along with journalist played to the game. So we KNOW that it's really high quality graphics. The best I never see on a portable console.(except Uncharted Vita.. from the trailer)
Btw, me I am more interrested on game than x console fanboy.. I have the 3DS, I will take the Vita, ONLY the game will tell me wich one I like better!!
@beatdathaguy98 I never tried to tell you or anybody to pick a 3DS, I remind you that when I talk about a game made exclusively for the 3DS with a high cartridge capacities(it's the first to use 4giga), you talk about another game I don't care about! And most of the 3DS owner did'nt expect a lot from a port who has been rushed to be there on early 3DS time!
If you wanna pick a console only for the graphics part, do as you like. Me I pick for the game. everybody is happy!
@dbkai75 Well i agree with you. Everybody choice the games, I dont like a lot nintendo exclusives and they should offer something more for adults. However ps vita will use 16 gb cards for games.
@beatdathaguy98 You know that Ridge Racer for the Vita pushes the graphics not even using all 4 cores and now the game only has 5 cars and 3 tracks....Yeah Sony should really focus more on gameplay and innovation than graphics.
@beatdathaguy98 3DS comes out with good games....Majority of them get higher than an 8....Not like the Vita where you get half assed dumbed down ports forcing you to buy DLC...Then after all the crap games for it, they make you buy a memory card for like 30$
@beatdathaguy98 Ok...Vita has remakes. Majority of the games on it are for kids...Go look the games up. What is the best game coming out for the Vita at launch? Half assed Ridge Racer? Little Deviants?REALITY FIGHTERS! Those aren't kid games?
@Sotendo360 Oh yeah i agree with that. Launch games are bad. But 3ds was made for kids, like wii. Super Mario and Zelda are for kids unless you are a nintendo fan. You also need to wait a bit because probably lots of ps3 and xbox 360 games are going to vita too.
Also we know that resistance, god of war, uncharted and many other ps3 exclusive will arrive to vita
@beatdathaguy98 How is Zelda for kids...Tell me.I can tell you that most likely any kid can't beat it.Resistance,GoW and UC all suck.Vita is just getting dumbed down ports.
@Sotendo360 So? If a kid cant beat it isnt for kids? I need to tell you That Uc and Gow suck you are wrong because they are better than any nintendo game.
@beatdathaguy98 Ratings prove you wrong. UC3 got 10 from IGN because of Greg Miller and he already said he was a PS fanboy....His nickname is Mr. Playstation...And how in anyway is Zelda made for kids? Tell me how it is, and you better not say the art style or because there is no blood. Because I can start naming reasons why Sony's games aren't for adults and are for little kids.
@beatdathaguy98 SMG2 got a 97 from metacritic didn't they?Kids nowadays want to act mature so they play M rated games...Zelda isn't for kids..Explain how it is EXPLAIN!Is it just because it's not rated M?Nintendo has had alot of exclusives.But anyways don't reply unless you can tell me how it is for kids.
@Sotendo360 Hell yeah supermario galaxy its overrated.
I reply because As i told you Zelda its for kids or for nintento fanboys so if you are a nintendo fanboy I cant argue with you. And the last zelda its the more kidish one
@beatdathaguy98 Uncharted 3 is rated T, is that for kids? Is Sly for kids? How about Jack and Daxter? Jack and Daxter and Sly have cartoonish graphics....How about Little Big Planet? Is Epic's new game for kids because of the graphics? Borderlands has cartoonish graphics...is that for kids? You aren't making any sense at all just saying it's for kids. Give proof that it's for kids then talk. You can't just say it's for kids because of the graphics.
@Sotendo360 Yes Uncharted its rated T but not E. I actually agree that the games you said are for kids. Any console has its kids exclusives, but not most of them right?
Borderlands doesnt look kiddy, models just have borders xD. I can say.
I think its for kids, because of the world and also for the history. So however if you think im not right only 2 exclusives? Zelda and Metroid? Come on wii has less more exclusives than ps3 and 360 and most of wii exclusives are for kids.
@beatdathaguy98 If it's rated E it doesn't mean it's for kids....God. It means EVERYONE! E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E!!!!! Zelda doesn't have a kiddie history...And again you can't say it's kiddie beacause of the art style. Have you played Majora's Mask or Twilight Princess? Some of the freakiest crap out there. If you think PS3/360 has more exclusives than the Wii, then you need to look them up because there are too many to name. And no, they aren't for kids.
@dbkai75 Finally someone who understands me. Although I never said the 3ds was crap I just said I hated the way the got console graphics. They got something for nothing.
@Eddyjj24baller Yeah, I exagerated about your statement.^^' But more than saying you consider 3DS as crap, it wanted to point the Graphical part(wich you said was your disapointment..)
If the Upper screen resolution was better, the 3DS could have HD graphics, as Pica gpu can support up to 1080p and now, Nintendo found a way to use the dual core CPU for the game, instead of only 1 core, because currently the 2nd core is for the 3DS os. After an update it will be 25% more powerful.
@dbkai75 the gpu of the vita is said to be 266mhz because it cant do hd, 540p isn't hd, now the Wii's gpu is 243 most people know that because iit does 480p, the 3ds gpu has graphics that look better than the wii's
@hirosese I said "IF the Upper screen resolution would be better", go check the PICA 200 specs you will see it can handle HD. I never said 3DS can. because the screen resolution would not handle it anyway. Try to play hd PS3 game on an old TV who can't support HD you will know what I mean.
If the 3DS have better LOOK than some Wii games and PSP, it's also because the pixelrate is far much better! 1.6 Billion for the 3DS, 664 Million for the psp, 900 for the Wii. Btw, the 3DS > Wii
@Eddyjj24baller youre an idiot, both MHZ and cores dosent make the graphics better. its how effective the GPU can use the MHZ is how it works. The 3ds does make wii graphics since it can be outputted to a tv (as shown in a tournament) and looks amazing.
someone that doesn't even know how to spell processor correctly shouldn't be talking about hardware specifications. The 3ds vs Vita situation really reminds me of how the ds and psp when they first came out. One had clearly more horsepower (psp), but which one was a flop and which one was the most successful handheld in history? Exactly. Please take your asinine arguments elsewhere.
@abusedbunny lol yes i did spell processor wrong.I was kinda rushing it. Also you are probably the biggest and best definition of a fanboy. Could you please tell me where I said the vita would outsell the 3ds? Secondly you have the heart to dismiss all of the cheapness of the 3ds and say its better because it will sell more. Plus the way things are going now it looks like the vita will blow the 3ds out of the water. It fanboys like you that make a former sony hater like me like sony even more.
@abusedbunny contd To be honest the ds outsold the psp because it had better games the psp just had better graphics. The only thing is when you look at the 3ds' game list only about 5 game stand out. Look at the vitas list and you will see tons of big name games and it isnt even out yet. I mean just look at how long the 3ds has been out and it still dosnt produce. Nintendo is loosing at their own game. They're now loosing in graphics gameplay and titles. Looks like the past wouldnt repeat itself
@Sotendo360 O.k. then name atleast 6. Let me start my vita list Uncharted mod nation racers escape plan wipeout dungeon defenders final fantasy x killzone lil big planet street fighter x takken fifa 12 wwe 12 hot shot golf gravity rush monster hunter lego harry potter years 5-7 ninja gaiden rayman origins resistance burning skies super stardust ultimate marvel vs capcom 3 virtua tennis supermonkeyball ruin dust 514 dynasy warriors lil deviants and shinobido 2. Lets see if ur list even come close
@Eddyjj24baller Ok, Rayman Origins, Mario Kart 7, Monster Hunter Tri G, Monster Hunter 4, Bravery Default:Flying Fairy, Fire Emblem, Dynasty Warriors Vs., Tekken Prime 3D, Kid Icarus Uprising, Metal Gear Solid 3D, Heroes of Ruin, Resident Evil Revelations, Paper Mario 3D, Mario Tennis, Kingdom Hearts, Dream Drop Distance, Luigi's Mansion 2, Super Smash Bros. 4, Nano Assault, Super Monkey Ball, Super Street Fighter 4, WWE Super Stars 3D, Super Mario 3D Land, Starfox 64, DOAD. Dude no more room.
@Sotendo360 First of all mario games are great but they just tend to be the same thing exactly most of the thime so I dont any other mario game but the mario kart stand out. Secondly I could Monter hunter dynasty warriors super monkey ball all at better graphics on ps vita. Also alot of the games u mentioned are low rated games by game raters. Only mk 7 sf4(which is no way as good as street fighte x tekken) ssb 4 re kiu really stand out.
@Eddyjj24baller Ono or whatever was talking about SFxT on the 3DS. A lot of those games I mentioned aren't even out yet.....And the ones that are got really good ratings.
@Sotendo360 Yeah I know but there is some site i saw with the reviews on it if i could find it ill send it to u. You see you gotta understand that alott of review companies get games early. I just checked for sf x t and ono never saind anything about it being on 3ds. Look the 3ds does have some good games but as I said in honesty only about 5 grab peoples attention.
@Eddyjj24baller Yeah Ono said he wants Street Fighter X Tekken or SF3: AE for the 3DS. Then in a recent interview they asked why hasn't he said anything else about it and he said,"No reason at all,actually". And a lot of those games I named grab people's attention.
@Eddyjj24baller W.........WTF are you talking about the 3ds is far more powerful than a ps2, ps2 cpu300mhz, ram is 64mb, 4mb of edram, ps2 gpu is only 150mhz are serious? wtf are you talking about
@hirosese 3ds gpu 100-125 mhz ps2 150 ps2 75 million poly gons per second 3ds 30 million ps2 can achieve hd 3ds 800x240. I did over exagerrate a bit. In truth they equally powerfull or the ps2 is just a bit better. The point is Nintendo should not be awarded for using old technology in a new time period.
@Eddyjj24baller I think nobody award Nintendo for that! The thing is, the only money income for Nintendo are the consoles/games. So they CAN'T play at the same position than MS and SONY who have multiple income sources and can affort to sell hardwares whith loosing money. That's why Nintendo try to find a way with being more innovative.. The 3DS is not as powerful as vita, but the same was for DS and PSP. IMO the DS games were far much better until recently. Now the psp is good
@masterdelrap yes i am playstation fanboy! and your a nintendo fanboy who likes baby games.. I only buy my 3ds because im so fuckn RICH! btw just gave my 3ds to my younger brother who is 5 years of age and he enjoyed it.. and i DONT because it is dedicated only for BABIES!!! HAHAHAHA
@gerMax182 Nice job! you succesfully made yourself look like a complete dick! nintendo doesn't just have kid games on there system and if anything your the baby for making such an ignorant statement. If your so rich, ask your parents to buy you a brain, asshole.
@Airking1105 Don't know why he stopped... this is no where near the level of capability of what will be found in the PS Vita. Not that there is nothing wrong with the tech demo but it's far from impressive from a technical standpoint.
@dmanjj2 1. Take a nice GPU and put it on a motherboard with an older GPU (Pentium 4, etc), and it will slow down the GPU.
2. This tech demo was not filmed on a 3ds, this was a few years before on different hardware, but Nintendo cheaps out on hardware.
3. Tech demos do not represent actual games. Tech demos only do graphics, real games also need more then just that, there were GBA tech demos showing PSX style 3d...how many games did that?
@dmanjj2 It probably will have better then it is now, but the vita will always have better as the Vita is using high end technology that's even higher end then high end smartphones.
@HaloSpartanG13 Of course it is. That thing is powerful. Almost like a PS3 in your hands. Its just fun to see what the 3DS can do though, since I dont really need Vita graphics on a handheld. But im still getting a Vita though.
@HaloSpartanG13 "NOTHING looks like tech demos" true, but nintendo usually makes the games look better than their tech demos. Look at the tech demo for Zelda 64, then look at ocarina of time and majora's mask. Look at the tech demo for Zelda Gamecube, then look at Zelda windwaker and twilight princess. As for these tech demos, look at resident evil revelations (the new trailer came out today) and tekken 3DS. Those games look quite amazing.
This being used in a dedicated gaming console, which always manage to do a lot more with the power due to optimization. I can't wait to see how much better than this demo devs will do.
@zekogroundzero because no developer in that short time able to make games with that quality, and launch titles always suck, wait till metal gear solid or tekken.
at least make the games look as good as zelda OoT
mokats11 1 week ago
does anyone remembers XBOX’s girl and robot demo?
TheGrotesqueReality 1 week ago
There is no 3ds game that looks this good. why? Can someone explain in detail please.
kago500 1 week ago
@kago500 Because no one has used the full power -_-....That simple.
Sotendo360 1 day ago
Can everyone calm down about the capabilities of the 2 handhelds and which one is superior/inferior. There is a gap between performance but what it really comes down to is the developers and how much time and/or effort they put into making a game for the platform
StuffJunkers 3 weeks ago
3DS is cripple by it's aged and slow GPU while Vita is crippled by it's slow and aged SDRAM.
SPS148669 3 weeks ago
when will a game with this graphics come on the 3DS ?
MultyGameplays 1 month ago
Looks pre rendered, anyway. The bad thing is that probably we are never going to see this beautiful images on a 3ds, mostly because of the limited ram and cpu that it have, and because it don´t uses all the power of the gpu, because it have to render two images at the same time to show that nice 3d effect.
BS73PKE 1 month ago
@BS73PKE
-This footage is real time rendering
-Who is to says this is the maximum level of graphic this GPU can produce? This is a vid showcasing what the the GPU is capable of, NOT a vid showcasing the MAXIMUM capability of the gpu
hsbinh1412 1 month ago
If you are going by which handheld has better hardware it's the Vita hands down.That said both handhelds are quite nice and i expect some great games from them.Vita will have games that look as good Ps3/360 games later in it's life cycle.The 3ds will be gamecube with current rendering technique's.Also people Vita has 512mb of system memory and 128mb of Vram..compared to 128mb total ram on 3ds.Don't expect to see the 3ds to outperform Vita.At the end it's all about software not hardware.
risseer23 1 month ago
@risseer23 actually the quality of 3ds games with the PICA200 is built in such a way to handle graphical techniques akin to that of direct x 10 and 10 plus.. of course it can't handle the exact specifications of direct x 10 but neither can the vita in terms of tessellations and exact numbers of polygons because of their limitations as handhelds so the 3ds and the vita can never do current gen but from a lower scale standpoint they come pretty damn close. the vita is in fact powerful.
xShadowDarkX 1 month ago
@xShadowDarkX
PC's are always 1 gen ahead of Home Console's while Home Cosole will always be 1 gen ahead of handhelds.
SPS148669 3 weeks ago
@SPS148669 yup. true true. After all computers are used for so much more and have a wealth of uses outside of games. I know personally my laptop plays ut3 better than any console can lol
xShadowDarkX 3 weeks ago
@risseer23 but the 3ds is more dynamic and unique than the vita..the vita uses condensed frameworks used on consoles but even then cannot deliver the same power and graphical properties of the ps3 or 360 but in the end it's easier for for devs to port to vita because of it's power but the PICA200 is capable of displays up to 800p surpassing 360's native 720p but not near 360's or ps3's 1080p. I uploaded the true comparison between vita and ps3 and it's nice..but its not that powerful
xShadowDarkX 1 month ago
@BS73PKE The image is supposed to be real time (the skys+mountain+river probably a pre rendered texture on a skydome yeah) Limited Ram? The thing has I believe 128MB of high speed RAM, the DS had 4MB, even the original PSP had 32MB later had 64MB, I wouldn't call it limited.
Also it has to render 3 images - the 2 3Ds, and the bottom screen ;)
Sypran 1 month ago
@Sypran
PSP could not use 64 MB for games though since games would not work for original 32MB PSP. The extra 32 MB was only for enhanced browser memory and UMD cache. Likeywise Ps Vita has a whopping 512 MB but 256 is reserved for OS and crosschat and games can only use 256 MB. PS Vita also uses the aging and slower SDRAM which is inferior to the FCRAM of the 3DS when it come to speed.
SPS148669 3 weeks ago
@SPS148669 ahh I didnt know if the memory couldn't be fully used in games or not, 256mb usable is not bad for a console but yeah it is way to slow - do you know if that 256 counts the Vram or is it just general purpose ram?
Sypran 3 weeks ago
@Sypran
256 is General purpose.
SPS148669 3 weeks ago
@BS73PKE fan boy puto de sony
DIEGO64XD 1 month ago
@lazavideoz what did I say sony said explain please.
windwakerpikmin 2 months ago
@seikeith can you explain to me please I'm confused why do sony drones say vita has better graphics then?..
windwakerpikmin 2 months ago
@windwakerpikmin Find me one webpage that says sony said that.
lazavideoz 2 months ago
@windwakerpikmin the ps vita and 3ds both have 200mhz gpu. But the pica200 can be overclocked to 400mhz. I dont know if the vita can. Also the vita's gpu only has directx 9 while the 3ds has directx 10+ :D
seikeith 2 months ago
@seikeith Umm no it doesn't it runs on OpenGL ES 1.1.Which get improved on each year.It's not Directx10+ Compatible as you say.The Vita's graphics chip can run in DirectX 10.1 as well use OpenGL ES 2.0.You need to understand that the Pica200 gpu is quite old was made back in 2006 while the Vita's Gpu SGX543MP4 was announced in 2009.So their's a good 3 year gap between them and it shows.
risseer23 1 month ago
@risseer23 i know that vita is more powerful but i like them both :D
seikeith 1 month ago
ACTUALLY 3DS GPU IS BETTER THAN THE PS VITA. THE PS VITA ONLY HAS BIGGER RESOLUTION.
seikeith 2 months ago
@seikeith and the gpu chipset has better shading programs
datafreak667 2 months ago
@datafreak667 EXACTLY MATE. :D
seikeith 2 months ago
@seikeith well.. depending on the framework of a game the gpu of the 3ds can run into frame rate issues... i've found them in mercenaries 3d... with work though this problem can be solved but the vita has a quad-core processor to help in the frames of the game.. both however use a 200mhz gpu so they both pack a punch in respective feilds
xShadowDarkX 2 months ago
@xShadowDarkX yes ps vita is kinda powerful. But they are both good handhelds. Let's just appreciate them both.
seikeith 2 months ago
@seikeith and one more thing before i forget.. the gpu for the vita is a custom quad core... now while this may mean faster frame rates and better texturing.. vita still has to cut back on polygons and certain special graphical qualities of most consoles today... such as tessalations. however.... it's all for not because I do appreciate both of them and plan on getting both.. i find 3ds and vita to be equal
xShadowDarkX 2 months ago
@xShadowDarkX they are equal for me too. im getting the vita soon. :D
seikeith 2 months ago
@xShadowDarkX Has 4 cores on both Cpu and Gpu also as i said above the extra ram that Vita has will help alot.
risseer23 1 month ago
@Sotendo360 don't bother responding to him he's retarded.
windwakerpikmin 2 months ago
but the main issue of the Vita is the price if you wanna use confortably your console. I am in EU so I will probably take an US version, as it will cost cheaper for me!
If the memory card of the Vita are this much expensive it's because Sony want to earn money from it while they lose from the Vita, but the price for are too much when you look on the memory card market. If you look well, you can have 32gb class10 MicroSD for less than 45$. Why should I pay 90$ for VIta MC, same for 30$ on 4gb
dbkai75 3 months ago
I said Resident Evil Revelation use 4gb cartridge but currently Nintendo can provide up to 8gb cartidge! In I don't know how many years it will be probably higher, like it was for all cartridge supported conole. If it's like for the Neogeo, we can guess than the higher the cartridge used, the higher the graphics quality can be(because high qualities assets take more place than lower..)
That's very good also for the Vita to take cartridge instead of disc. It's currently far much better than disk
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if something like this would run on the 3ds sales would have been much better
also people these days only care about graphics not fun
correct me if im mistaken
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gerMax182 5 months ago
@gerMax182 Not when a required 32GB Vita card costs $120 lol.
dmanjj2 3 months ago
One thing i hate about the 3ds is that it got console graphics because of developers while the ps vita got console graphics because of its specs. In reallity the 3ds is less powerfull than a ps2 the only thing saving it is dedicated developers who found a way for it to run console graphics on it. Nintendo really cheaped out this time. Really a 400 mhz prossesor while the vita has a quad core 1ghz prossecor. The only reason the 3ds still dosnt cost as much as the ps vita is because of poor sales
Eddyjj24baller 6 months ago 33
@Eddyjj24baller Specs won't tell the whole story. In the end, the games will do the talking.
Adrammalech7570 6 months ago
@Adrammalech7570 All im saying is Nintendo Cheaped Out. As I said before the only thing helping the 3ds from being a complete fail is dedicated developers. Plus honestly the 3ds does not have that much good games. Also games made for both the 3ds and vita will more than likely be console like on the vita and the 3ds will be mobile like. The point is Nintendo never looks to push forward. They are always about 3-5 years behind time. Its 2011 mobile gamers want good games with console graphics.
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller You should realize that graphics only equate to part of the gaming experience. If graphics were all that mattered, the PSP would have sold head and heels over the DS. Obviously, Nintendo must be doing something right here. Since Starfox 3D and Zelda, OOT 3D came out, the 3DS started selling a lot faster as well.
As for the original price, yes I agree that was pretty steep, but being somewhat smart, I waited for the inevitable price drop, and it was well worth the $160.
Adrammalech7570 5 months ago
@Adrammalech7570 On the contrare my friend back then we didnt care but now we do. 75% of mobile gamers now a days want console graphics on the go . The 3ds right now in my eyes is not that bad but after looking at the ps vita it doesnt seem that good. In fact if you ask 3ds owners if the 3ds is fun and addicting atleast 40% would say no. I play cousins 3ds often and I could tell for a fact that the 3ds is just not bad but not that good. The 3ds is one of nintendoes most unsucssesful products.
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller When the DS first came out, a lot of people thought it would flop too, and thought the PSP would be the dominant handheld, but obviously, that did not turn out to be true.
I'm not trying to say the 3DS will beat out the PSP Vita, but I'm saying that it is still really early in the 3DS's life, and the PSP hasn't even come out yet, so it's impossible to see how they will compare in the future.
And finally, graphics are worthless if the game itself is poo. Look at Brink.
Adrammalech7570 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Just don't dish it till ya try it.
troy1002x 5 months ago
@troy1002x Ive tried it bro and I could tell you that it is not bad but it is not that good. And yeah the gpu does help it a bit but it is still mainly developers .
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller It's the GPU that's saving it, man.
troy1002x 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller So devs should always rely on technology instead of working around it? No wonder we have uninspired games like Uncharted clogging the air waves.
AguyinaRPG 5 months ago
@AguyinaRPG That isnt what i was trying to say. All Im trying to say was that the 3ds is a rip of. Nintendo
cheaped out. Thats all to it. BTW Uncharted is an excellent game.
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Logic seems to escape you.
AguyinaRPG 5 months ago
@AguyinaRPG Bro I know what you said is a very logical statement but honestly we all know if the 3ds had the vitas chip and the vita had the 3ds' chip and both could produce these graphics all of the Nintendo fanboys would say sony cheaped out. Yes your right devs should not rely on technology but the 3ds' technology is very embarrasing. The vitas chip is 10x faster plus it has a much better gpu and far more ram. Btw Im not a sony fanboy( if u thought so) I actually hated sony before the vita.
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
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@AguyinaRPG Bro I know what you said is a very logical statement but honestly we all know if the 3ds had the vitas chip and the vita had the 3ds' chip and both could produce these graphics all of the Nintendo fanboys would say sony cheaped out. Yes your right devs should not rely on technology but the 3ds' technology is very embarrasing. The vitas chip is 10x faster plus it has a much better gpu and far more ram. Btw Im not a sony fanboy( if u thought so) I actually hated sony before the vita.
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller actually, there's somethign I realized about Nintendo, and it's that Nintendo always does this sort of thing since the SNES days. The SNES wasn't powerful, but the graphics chip on it had some really cool effects like Mode7, transparency, etc. The N64 graphics wasnt powerful but it had texture filter, GC wasn't powerful but for some reason developers made better looking games on it. Same thing for DS, it has a loot of graphical features despite its weakness
9a3eedi 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller What you just said made no sense..
MrKevin396 5 months ago
@MrKevin396 If you knew more about technology then it would make sense.
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
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@Eddyjj24baller But what you said "it got console graphics because of developers while the ps vita got console graphics because of its specs", it sounds like you're saying that they both have identical console graphics, which makes no sense in your argument.
MrKevin396 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Weaker then a PS2 but produces Xbox360 graphics? Developers can't make it do that. If it's weaker then a PS2 it would make PS2 graphic games.
Sotendo360 5 months ago
@Sotendo360 Actually developers can. Also i was being nice. If you look at the 3ds' specs alot of people would say its on par with a game cube.Ex: The 3ds has a 400 mhz proccesor while the gamecube has a 485 mhz proccessor( the higher the better). Developers them selfs said they have found ways to work around the 3ds' limitations. Ex 2: the ps vita has a quad core 1ghz proccesors which is 10x more powerful than the 3ds'. Also the 360 has an almost 20x faster cpu.So please dont be such a fanboy.
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Nintendo wasn't necessarily being bad with the processor they chose. the graphics on the 3ds are beautiful and more than enough. Nintendo just didn't feel like they needed to go overboard, as the old cliche saying goes, games aren't all about graphics. but the games on the 3ds are absolutely beautiful and run smoothly. Nintendo does things their way. The 3D effect when done correctly is so beautiful, graphically it looks like it's in a league of it's own, anyway.
mike12jrw1111113 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller but btw, the developers of conduit 2 are saying the 3DS is more powerful than the wii in a lot of ways. For a handheld that's awesome, again, it's a handheld, those graphics are more than enough and look beautiful on the size of the screen...with the 3d effect. We haven't even seen what the 3ds can really do, usually later in a systems life the developers start to use the hardware more effectively. the games we've already seen are lovely (kid icarus for example) imagine the futur
mike12jrw1111113 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller
So you're only looking at specs huh?
So you say its only because of the devs that 3DS games can look good? So Monster Hunter 3G looks better than any of the PS2 Monster Hunters just because Capcom felt like it?
lordrath2000 5 months ago
@lordrath2000 Actually its not only because of devs. Even though the 3ds is very weak in horsepower compared to the vita but its not that far form a ps2. And plus it rendering these games on a small sceen vs the ps2 on a huge screen so thats why mh looks like a ps2 game. Also You are not getting what im saying. Nintendo made the 3ds to only be a bit better than the psp but now adays what u can do with weak technology is preaty amazing. Btw i hate sony but i cant lie and defend nintendo.
Eddyjj24baller 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller
I'll say one last thing, and that will be all. The 3DS made to be able to output games with models that look like either Gamecube or Wii level models, with textures around Wii level, maybe higher, and with advanced shaders that are closer to 360 and PS3, something the Wii can't do. That's what it is, and that is what devs can take advantage of. And I said MH3G on 3DS looks BETTER than any of the PS2 MH games. It looks more like MH3 with better lighting and shadows.
lordrath2000 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller
Oh, and have a nice evening.
lordrath2000 5 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller damn ur already complaining about graphics and the systems isnt even at its full scale yet im sure sony is gana push nintendo to make quality titles and next yeah im sure that ea activision ubisoft and many more are gana show off what the system is able to do when they launch the slider pad attachment next yeah and besides psvita is gana have a few good launch games then next the real developmet starts so dont judge the consoles just yet
MrSmokinhotdude 4 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller: YOU ARE WRONG! The Processor of Vita WON`T RUn on 1 Ghz! You know why? Ah, of course there is a battery still in there! xD You are stupid that you even don`t know that fact. Go read it and then you will learn it. Vita`S quadcore will run at 600-800 Mhz. Not even publiced. But it won´t run with 1 ghz. Sony itself said that!
SmartSirius 4 months ago
@SmartSirius Could u please tell at which point i said the vitas cpu would run at 1gz. Having 1gz and running at 1gz are two different things. The ps vita has a 1ghz quad core proccesor but it is downclocked to about 800 mhz but when ever the want the could clock it up to 1gz with an software update(but that would kill the battery faster and probably cause crashes). Next time please dont call some one stupid until you know COMPLETE facts.
Eddyjj24baller 4 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller the Vitas GPU is 200mhz actually- The two achieve graphics differently, the 3DS has higher GPU but Vita has higher CPU and CPU influenced/controlled GPU. Nintendo tends to let the GPU handle itself and have a weaker CPU. The 3DS has console graphics because devs use the system the way it should be used- even Resident Evil Revelations is not pushing the 3DS system graphically *said by capcom* Nintendo has been the kind of company where devs can get away with half assed work.
leatopia 4 months ago
@leatopia Um I was talking about the cpu. But the gpu is 200 mhz but what you must remember is that it gpu is equal to 800mz because it is quad which means 200 x 4= 800. Which aloan is two time powerfull than the 3ds cpu alone. Btw 400 mhz was for the 3ds cpu not the gpu( which is very low). The only thing saving it is its pretty good graphics chip
Eddyjj24baller 4 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller i think you have a few things wrong- the Vita has only 1 GPU which is 200mhz-even with 4 cores they all wont be focused on the GPU- the more cores mean the more the system can do at once- basically- so lets say even with 3 of those cores they will be focusing on using that GPU's features, it wont be multiplying anything- just using everything to the fullest because CPU support is there. Also the Pica200 can be clocked up to 400mhz. The 3DS has the 2008 chip which clocks that high
leatopia 4 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller continued due to character limit* I think you are confusing the 3Ds GPU and CPU. The CPU is not confirmed or known at the moment but its rumored to have 2x ARM-11 chips clocked at 220 each or something. The GPU is the Pica200 chip *in this video* There are two versions of the chip, the 2006 model and the 2008 model called mastro3G. The 3DS has the 3G model which can be clocked as high as 400mhz- we know this because the 3G model contains features already present in some games.
leatopia 4 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller 3DS is more powerful than PS2... ¬¬
abelcowl 4 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller: There is a slight problem with your argument, the 3DS is stronger than a Gamecube, and the Gamecube was stronger than the PS2. Also where did you get 400 mhz? So far there is no info on the 3DS' CPU besides that it's a custome ARM 11. Some people are even guessing a duel core ARM 11. Show me sources or get out.
Tkscz 4 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller The 3ds has a dual core 200 mhz processor. Which equals 400 mhz
Eddyjj24baller 4 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller 2 cores dosent make 400 mhz youre an idiot, dont speak if you dont know shit about computers.
pikachumasters12 3 months ago
@pikachumasters12 lol do you even know that a producer has the ability to put as many ghz or mhz a any amount core processor??? Plus the break down of the 3ds shows that the specs of the cpu is 2core 200mhz. Well I wouldnt blame you for saying that with all of the other companies releasing 1gz or better dual core cpus. But thatsNintendo they always use outdated cpus in there devices. Even they know that there cou sucks thats why even on ther website the say nothing about it in the specs section
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller too bad im a computer tech and youre just a plain idiot, Mhz do crap, and those dual cores arent worth shit since they arent stand alone cpus.
pikachumasters12 3 months ago
@pikachumasters12 So umm how am I a idiot for pointing what you didnt know??? You have the heart to say that I dont have no clue about computers when you dont even know one of the most basic thing about them. And yes mhz does crap I think we all knew that. Plus dual core is a stand alone cpu it just has 2 processors in it. Jeez some people just think they know it all.
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller wrong the Gpu and the cpu are merged in the tegra (and all smartphone gpu's) so its not a stand alone CPU.
pikachumasters12 3 months ago
@pikachumasters12 My bad there. Just thought bout it and your right the only thing though it still functions like regular cpu would. I garantee if u were to put a regular 2gz processor witha seperate gpu vs a dual core tegra or a5 i garantee they would be just as fast.
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Lolz vita has 4 core at 2ghx max.
beatdathaguy98 4 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 lol with that being said it make nintendo look light years away.
Eddyjj24baller 4 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 What non sense you "lol" to? I think he is talking about the GPU not the CPU.
The VIta : GPU is 4core(no real speed info) CPU is 4 core UP TO 2ghz(we don't know for sure it will be 2ghz, might be 1,5 or less depending of Sony's will to reduce power consumption)
3DS CPU is ARM11 1ghz dual core. GPU is the PICA200 GPU 400mhz
The Vita is more powerful for sure, but the 3DS is not as crap that Eddyj mean!
dbkai75 3 months ago
@dbkai75 Umm? I found that 3ds has dual core 266 mhz, 128 mb of ram and 4 vram. Too much like gamecube.
Also vita will have 512 mb of ram and 128 mb vram
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 type this on google and you will see a the specs compared:
ps_vita_vs_nintendo_3ds_vs_iphone_4s_specs_showdown
dbkai75 3 months ago
@dbkai75 well still worser than ps vita and i didnt find 3ds potential really good
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 Yeah, the vita is much more powerful.. but more expensive at the same time. If you talk about the potential technicaly, yes. But what is good about the video games is you can have very good game even with not the best looking graphics. (otherwise nobody would love Tetris, Bomberman etc..) When I see Resident Evil Revelations, I don't see many current early game on Vita who are better looking. Only Uncharted and Gravity Rush come to mind!
dbkai75 3 months ago
@dbkai75 Umm yes? However it will look like mercenaries 3d. Not good as in trailers.
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 Why you talk about Mercenaries when I mention Revelations? Oo
And I PLAYED to Revelations and a lot of common persons along with journalist played to the game. So we KNOW that it's really high quality graphics. The best I never see on a portable console.(except Uncharted Vita.. from the trailer)
Btw, me I am more interrested on game than x console fanboy.. I have the 3DS, I will take the Vita, ONLY the game will tell me wich one I like better!!
dbkai75 3 months ago
@dbkai75 So? In trailers of mercenaries it was shown amazing graphics but mercenaries graphics actually sux.
Maybe thats what you see. But i see that im not going to get 3ds.
Oh 3ds has bad resolution in my opinion. 800x240 Thats what a guy said but idk if its real
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 I never tried to tell you or anybody to pick a 3DS, I remind you that when I talk about a game made exclusively for the 3DS with a high cartridge capacities(it's the first to use 4giga), you talk about another game I don't care about! And most of the 3DS owner did'nt expect a lot from a port who has been rushed to be there on early 3DS time!
If you wanna pick a console only for the graphics part, do as you like. Me I pick for the game. everybody is happy!
dbkai75 3 months ago
@dbkai75 Well i agree with you. Everybody choice the games, I dont like a lot nintendo exclusives and they should offer something more for adults. However ps vita will use 16 gb cards for games.
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 You know that Ridge Racer for the Vita pushes the graphics not even using all 4 cores and now the game only has 5 cars and 3 tracks....Yeah Sony should really focus more on gameplay and innovation than graphics.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 If it just has 5 cars and 3 track its their problem. However i dont like ridge racer
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 Well that's the Vita for ya..Half assed games.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 Vita didnt come out already, and i tell you as far i see from 3ds isnt very good
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 3DS comes out with good games....Majority of them get higher than an 8....Not like the Vita where you get half assed dumbed down ports forcing you to buy DLC...Then after all the crap games for it, they make you buy a memory card for like 30$
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 Good games like? Remakes? Kids games? Just wait. Because 3ds got the good games a few months after its realease right?
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 Ok...Vita has remakes. Majority of the games on it are for kids...Go look the games up. What is the best game coming out for the Vita at launch? Half assed Ridge Racer? Little Deviants?REALITY FIGHTERS! Those aren't kid games?
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 Oh yeah i agree with that. Launch games are bad. But 3ds was made for kids, like wii. Super Mario and Zelda are for kids unless you are a nintendo fan. You also need to wait a bit because probably lots of ps3 and xbox 360 games are going to vita too.
Also we know that resistance, god of war, uncharted and many other ps3 exclusive will arrive to vita
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 How is Zelda for kids...Tell me.I can tell you that most likely any kid can't beat it.Resistance,GoW and UC all suck.Vita is just getting dumbed down ports.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 So? If a kid cant beat it isnt for kids? I need to tell you That Uc and Gow suck you are wrong because they are better than any nintendo game.
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 Ratings prove you wrong. UC3 got 10 from IGN because of Greg Miller and he already said he was a PS fanboy....His nickname is Mr. Playstation...And how in anyway is Zelda made for kids? Tell me how it is, and you better not say the art style or because there is no blood. Because I can start naming reasons why Sony's games aren't for adults and are for little kids.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 So? I agree that uncharted 3 isnt a full 10 but uncharted 2 got 96 in metacritic.
Yeah now I thought and i think some kids prefer sony games because nintendo games are waaay to kiddy.
Nintendo needs to make a good exclusive. Also Nintendo doesnt get new exclusives. Zelda and mario are old.
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 SMG2 got a 97 from metacritic didn't they?Kids nowadays want to act mature so they play M rated games...Zelda isn't for kids..Explain how it is EXPLAIN!Is it just because it's not rated M?Nintendo has had alot of exclusives.But anyways don't reply unless you can tell me how it is for kids.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 Hell yeah supermario galaxy its overrated.
I reply because As i told you Zelda its for kids or for nintento fanboys so if you are a nintendo fanboy I cant argue with you. And the last zelda its the more kidish one
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 Uncharted 3 is rated T, is that for kids? Is Sly for kids? How about Jack and Daxter? Jack and Daxter and Sly have cartoonish graphics....How about Little Big Planet? Is Epic's new game for kids because of the graphics? Borderlands has cartoonish graphics...is that for kids? You aren't making any sense at all just saying it's for kids. Give proof that it's for kids then talk. You can't just say it's for kids because of the graphics.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 Yes Uncharted its rated T but not E. I actually agree that the games you said are for kids. Any console has its kids exclusives, but not most of them right?
Borderlands doesnt look kiddy, models just have borders xD. I can say.
I think its for kids, because of the world and also for the history. So however if you think im not right only 2 exclusives? Zelda and Metroid? Come on wii has less more exclusives than ps3 and 360 and most of wii exclusives are for kids.
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 If it's rated E it doesn't mean it's for kids....God. It means EVERYONE! E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E!!!!! Zelda doesn't have a kiddie history...And again you can't say it's kiddie beacause of the art style. Have you played Majora's Mask or Twilight Princess? Some of the freakiest crap out there. If you think PS3/360 has more exclusives than the Wii, then you need to look them up because there are too many to name. And no, they aren't for kids.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 Whatever, i dont agree but any other? Yes wii has much less more exclusives, and most of them crappy
beatdathaguy98 2 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 If you think the Wii has much less more exclusives, then you seriously need to search a video of all of their exclusives.
Sotendo360 2 months ago
@Sotendo360 Wikipedia?
Belive it or not xbox 360 has more exclusives than ps3 and wii
beatdathaguy98 2 months ago
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DIEGO64XD 1 month ago
@beatdathaguy98 98? haha
STFU lil kid
jjalepeno55 3 months ago
@jjalepeno55 Lol so? Not even 12 year old kids like Nintendo Games
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 maybe non nintendo gamers dont like little kids.....
jjalepeno55 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 creazy creazy locoooooooooooooooooooooooo creazy
DIEGO64XD 1 month ago
@beatdathaguy98 800x240 each eye....And Mercenaries has good graphics...
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 How each eye? Lol?
beatdathaguy98 3 months ago
@beatdathaguy98 When it is in 3D one eye sees 800x240 and the other one sees 800x240. In 2D it's 480p.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@dbkai75 Finally someone who understands me. Although I never said the 3ds was crap I just said I hated the way the got console graphics. They got something for nothing.
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Yeah, I exagerated about your statement.^^' But more than saying you consider 3DS as crap, it wanted to point the Graphical part(wich you said was your disapointment..)
If the Upper screen resolution was better, the 3DS could have HD graphics, as Pica gpu can support up to 1080p and now, Nintendo found a way to use the dual core CPU for the game, instead of only 1 core, because currently the 2nd core is for the 3DS os. After an update it will be 25% more powerful.
dbkai75 3 months ago
@dbkai75 the gpu of the vita is said to be 266mhz because it cant do hd, 540p isn't hd, now the Wii's gpu is 243 most people know that because iit does 480p, the 3ds gpu has graphics that look better than the wii's
hirosese 3 months ago
@hirosese I said "IF the Upper screen resolution would be better", go check the PICA 200 specs you will see it can handle HD. I never said 3DS can. because the screen resolution would not handle it anyway. Try to play hd PS3 game on an old TV who can't support HD you will know what I mean.
If the 3DS have better LOOK than some Wii games and PSP, it's also because the pixelrate is far much better! 1.6 Billion for the 3DS, 664 Million for the psp, 900 for the Wii. Btw, the 3DS > Wii
dbkai75 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller youre an idiot, both MHZ and cores dosent make the graphics better. its how effective the GPU can use the MHZ is how it works. The 3ds does make wii graphics since it can be outputted to a tv (as shown in a tournament) and looks amazing.
pikachumasters12 3 months ago
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hsbinh1412 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller
someone that doesn't even know how to spell processor correctly shouldn't be talking about hardware specifications. The 3ds vs Vita situation really reminds me of how the ds and psp when they first came out. One had clearly more horsepower (psp), but which one was a flop and which one was the most successful handheld in history? Exactly. Please take your asinine arguments elsewhere.
abusedbunny 3 months ago
@abusedbunny lol yes i did spell processor wrong.I was kinda rushing it. Also you are probably the biggest and best definition of a fanboy. Could you please tell me where I said the vita would outsell the 3ds? Secondly you have the heart to dismiss all of the cheapness of the 3ds and say its better because it will sell more. Plus the way things are going now it looks like the vita will blow the 3ds out of the water. It fanboys like you that make a former sony hater like me like sony even more.
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@abusedbunny contd To be honest the ds outsold the psp because it had better games the psp just had better graphics. The only thing is when you look at the 3ds' game list only about 5 game stand out. Look at the vitas list and you will see tons of big name games and it isnt even out yet. I mean just look at how long the 3ds has been out and it still dosnt produce. Nintendo is loosing at their own game. They're now loosing in graphics gameplay and titles. Looks like the past wouldnt repeat itself
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Vita has Multi-plats......And not very good ones at that. Only like 5 games? The 3DS has wayyyyyy better games than the Vita.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 O.k. then name atleast 6. Let me start my vita list Uncharted mod nation racers escape plan wipeout dungeon defenders final fantasy x killzone lil big planet street fighter x takken fifa 12 wwe 12 hot shot golf gravity rush monster hunter lego harry potter years 5-7 ninja gaiden rayman origins resistance burning skies super stardust ultimate marvel vs capcom 3 virtua tennis supermonkeyball ruin dust 514 dynasy warriors lil deviants and shinobido 2. Lets see if ur list even come close
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Ok, Rayman Origins, Mario Kart 7, Monster Hunter Tri G, Monster Hunter 4, Bravery Default:Flying Fairy, Fire Emblem, Dynasty Warriors Vs., Tekken Prime 3D, Kid Icarus Uprising, Metal Gear Solid 3D, Heroes of Ruin, Resident Evil Revelations, Paper Mario 3D, Mario Tennis, Kingdom Hearts, Dream Drop Distance, Luigi's Mansion 2, Super Smash Bros. 4, Nano Assault, Super Monkey Ball, Super Street Fighter 4, WWE Super Stars 3D, Super Mario 3D Land, Starfox 64, DOAD. Dude no more room.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 First of all mario games are great but they just tend to be the same thing exactly most of the thime so I dont any other mario game but the mario kart stand out. Secondly I could Monter hunter dynasty warriors super monkey ball all at better graphics on ps vita. Also alot of the games u mentioned are low rated games by game raters. Only mk 7 sf4(which is no way as good as street fighte x tekken) ssb 4 re kiu really stand out.
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Ono or whatever was talking about SFxT on the 3DS. A lot of those games I mentioned aren't even out yet.....And the ones that are got really good ratings.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Sotendo360 Yeah I know but there is some site i saw with the reviews on it if i could find it ill send it to u. You see you gotta understand that alott of review companies get games early. I just checked for sf x t and ono never saind anything about it being on 3ds. Look the 3ds does have some good games but as I said in honesty only about 5 grab peoples attention.
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller Yeah Ono said he wants Street Fighter X Tekken or SF3: AE for the 3DS. Then in a recent interview they asked why hasn't he said anything else about it and he said,"No reason at all,actually". And a lot of those games I named grab people's attention.
Sotendo360 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller W.........WTF are you talking about the 3ds is far more powerful than a ps2, ps2 cpu300mhz, ram is 64mb, 4mb of edram, ps2 gpu is only 150mhz are serious? wtf are you talking about
hirosese 3 months ago in playlist 3DS
@hirosese 3ds gpu 100-125 mhz ps2 150 ps2 75 million poly gons per second 3ds 30 million ps2 can achieve hd 3ds 800x240. I did over exagerrate a bit. In truth they equally powerfull or the ps2 is just a bit better. The point is Nintendo should not be awarded for using old technology in a new time period.
Eddyjj24baller 3 months ago
@Eddyjj24baller I think nobody award Nintendo for that! The thing is, the only money income for Nintendo are the consoles/games. So they CAN'T play at the same position than MS and SONY who have multiple income sources and can affort to sell hardwares whith loosing money. That's why Nintendo try to find a way with being more innovative.. The 3DS is not as powerful as vita, but the same was for DS and PSP. IMO the DS games were far much better until recently. Now the psp is good
dbkai75 3 months ago
nintendo focuses on 3d which is a fail! God i hate my 3ds
gerMax182 6 months ago
@gerMax182 is not a fail you must be a playstation fan boy
masterdelrap 6 months ago
@masterdelrap yes i am playstation fanboy! and your a nintendo fanboy who likes baby games.. I only buy my 3ds because im so fuckn RICH! btw just gave my 3ds to my younger brother who is 5 years of age and he enjoyed it.. and i DONT because it is dedicated only for BABIES!!! HAHAHAHA
gerMax182 6 months ago
@gerMax182 your dumb than if your so rich bit ch vuy yourself a dildo up your ass bit ch
masterdelrap 6 months ago
@gerMax182 Nice job! you succesfully made yourself look like a complete dick! nintendo doesn't just have kid games on there system and if anything your the baby for making such an ignorant statement. If your so rich, ask your parents to buy you a brain, asshole.
rabbidnipples 6 months ago
@Airking1105 Don't know why he stopped... this is no where near the level of capability of what will be found in the PS Vita. Not that there is nothing wrong with the tech demo but it's far from impressive from a technical standpoint.
LatinLegacyNY 6 months ago
@matey27 lolwut
Look at those jaggies. Dem jaggies. This also probably had a more powerful CPU, like a smartphone cpu.
HaloSpartanG13 6 months ago
@Airking1105 Sorry, but I think you need to know that:
1. This is NOT 3ds hardware.
2. This is a tech demo. As we all know, NOTHING looks like tech demos...other then demoscene prods.
HaloSpartanG13 6 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 ....I dont get your statement there. PICA200 is running in the 3DS.
dmanjj2 6 months ago
@dmanjj2 1. Take a nice GPU and put it on a motherboard with an older GPU (Pentium 4, etc), and it will slow down the GPU.
2. This tech demo was not filmed on a 3ds, this was a few years before on different hardware, but Nintendo cheaps out on hardware.
3. Tech demos do not represent actual games. Tech demos only do graphics, real games also need more then just that, there were GBA tech demos showing PSX style 3d...how many games did that?
HaloSpartanG13 6 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 Oh ok i get it. Im sure the 3DS will still have better looking games down the line though.
dmanjj2 6 months ago
@dmanjj2 It probably will have better then it is now, but the vita will always have better as the Vita is using high end technology that's even higher end then high end smartphones.
HaloSpartanG13 6 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 Of course it is. That thing is powerful. Almost like a PS3 in your hands. Its just fun to see what the 3DS can do though, since I dont really need Vita graphics on a handheld. But im still getting a Vita though.
dmanjj2 6 months ago
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Adrammalech7570 6 months ago
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@HaloSpartanG13 "NOTHING looks like tech demos" true, but nintendo usually makes the games look better than their tech demos. Look at the tech demo for Zelda 64, then look at ocarina of time and majora's mask. Look at the tech demo for Zelda Gamecube, then look at Zelda windwaker and twilight princess. As for these tech demos, look at resident evil revelations (the new trailer came out today) and tekken 3DS. Those games look quite amazing.
jimmyelgringito 6 months ago
This being used in a dedicated gaming console, which always manage to do a lot more with the power due to optimization. I can't wait to see how much better than this demo devs will do.
lordrath2000 7 months ago
@matey27 But no 3DS game has shown that much power yet.
zekogroundzero 7 months ago
@zekogroundzero because no developer in that short time able to make games with that quality, and launch titles always suck, wait till metal gear solid or tekken.
Crisis742 7 months ago