Senseless about tempo here... it is not a rubato, but almost a random approach towards the tempo. The phrasing seems just as random also. I didn't feel any of the tempo changes. Sounds dumb when played like this. Just an example... Measure 16- where are those short notes and the rit. ? Almost no dynamic difference throughout the whole performance. Ending... FP and ppps? I would rather hear a MIDI.
@nozen4u that might means it's working. Dissonant music should create tension. It's about letting the music make you feel that anxiety. Great music makes a person feel strong emotions safely. The only other times a person might get to feel that anxiety and headache may be under incredible duress. Maybe you don't want to feel that headache right now. But you might want to challenge your emotions with your ears later, and that's when you listen to this stuff.
One of my favorite Schoenberg pieces. Anyways, I think it takes some time to get used to this kind of music and that's a problem for many. As for me, I listen to basically any classical music, from gregorian chant to Stockhausen.
This is a very poor performance, given by an amateur or student. That's ok, but you should state who is playing it so that people won't think this is a 'proper' public rendition. The notes are there etc. but the interpretation is rather weak.
"So long as the separate art of music had a real organic life-need in it […] there was nowhere to be found a Jewish composer.... Only when a body’s inner death is manifest, do outside elements win the power of lodgement in it—yet merely to destroy it. Then, indeed, that body’s flesh dissolves into a swarming colony of insect life: but who in looking on that body’s self, would hold it still for living?"-Wagner
It is not to say that there is not tone here. Tone is an element of Music (as well as Groove, Notes, Articulation/Duration, Technique, Emotion/Feel, Dynamics, Rhythm/Tempo, Phrasing and Rest/Space). Tone is powerful. Notes produced by [your instrument] will have different effects on listeners depending on the tone that's used. If you want people to dance, use a certain tone. If you want them to quiet down and listen another tone is necessary. If you want to heal, use another tone altogether.
@andhemills When people call this music "atonal", they're talking about tonality or key, not timbre. They're not using "tone" in the same sense you are just used it. This music was written under a specific system in order to sound like it doesn't have a key or tonality.
This guy killed classical music. This is emperors new clothes music: if you don't like it you are obviously uneducated, spawning endless sycophants. Its a single brilliant idea that really gets very boring very quickly. Theres nothing wrong with it: it was original in its day. But classical music is intelectually stuck in this and cannot find a way out. Unless it does, in 20 years classical music will be as dead as a dodo and the world will be full of musical junkies hooked on Girls Aloud.
Well, yes and no. Schönberg never meant for atonality to repress or even so much as replace tonality. He constructed something simply different and, imho, magnificently succeeded in doing so. One does not have to like it, but he never demanded anybody to do so. And something tells me that the "classics" will not die out because of this - they're simply, you know, too classy.
f you dont have a eat that can allow you to appreciate a composition like this one then you have to understand his system in order to appreciate his music,
@glidingsparrow He's got a point. Obviously most people who are searching for Schönberg music are doing so because they like his music, but for most people it really does sound -- quite frankly -- bad. Schönberg's break from functional tonality is certainly an "acquired taste" if you will, and I don't except most people to like it.
Luckily I didn't expect elevator music.
Siddi1976 3 months ago
Senseless about tempo here... it is not a rubato, but almost a random approach towards the tempo. The phrasing seems just as random also. I didn't feel any of the tempo changes. Sounds dumb when played like this. Just an example... Measure 16- where are those short notes and the rit. ? Almost no dynamic difference throughout the whole performance. Ending... FP and ppps? I would rather hear a MIDI.
ReturnOfTheStienway 4 months ago
I can hear that this is played by Elisabeth Klein.
mikkeljs 4 months ago
I quite like the music, but the performance seems a bit pretentious at times. a bit over the top.
AgentHomer 4 months ago
@AgentHomer It seems incoherent to me...
ReturnOfTheStienway 4 months ago
If it gives me a headache, does that make me uncultured?
nozen4u 5 months ago 2
@nozen4u that might means it's working. Dissonant music should create tension. It's about letting the music make you feel that anxiety. Great music makes a person feel strong emotions safely. The only other times a person might get to feel that anxiety and headache may be under incredible duress. Maybe you don't want to feel that headache right now. But you might want to challenge your emotions with your ears later, and that's when you listen to this stuff.
gxtmfa 5 months ago
@nozen4u No, just poor interpretation.
ReturnOfTheStienway 4 months ago
Easy way to compose atonal music: bash the piano.
myxo101 5 months ago
Poor. The articulation is incorrect
garypledet 6 months ago
@garypledet THANK YOU FOR NOTICING!!!!
ReturnOfTheStienway 4 months ago
One of my favorite Schoenberg pieces. Anyways, I think it takes some time to get used to this kind of music and that's a problem for many. As for me, I listen to basically any classical music, from gregorian chant to Stockhausen.
Rickeeey1 7 months ago
This is a very poor performance, given by an amateur or student. That's ok, but you should state who is playing it so that people won't think this is a 'proper' public rendition. The notes are there etc. but the interpretation is rather weak.
Sarmad939 8 months ago
I just love this Musette!! But I didn't understand the pianist, too slow for the music's character.
toquepiano 10 months ago
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"So long as the separate art of music had a real organic life-need in it […] there was nowhere to be found a Jewish composer.... Only when a body’s inner death is manifest, do outside elements win the power of lodgement in it—yet merely to destroy it. Then, indeed, that body’s flesh dissolves into a swarming colony of insect life: but who in looking on that body’s self, would hold it still for living?"-Wagner
BELACSAMOHT 10 months ago
There is a cat jumping on your piano...
Mystilein 11 months ago
@Mystilein virtuoso cat
jessegguitar 10 months ago
Believe me ! there's a mistake 0:48 at the Fsharp 8th right hand at the end of the page, he play two notes !!
polszik 11 months ago
@polszik I don't believe that is a mistake because it sounds amazing. :]
liegeofshadows 9 months ago
It is not to say that there is not tone here. Tone is an element of Music (as well as Groove, Notes, Articulation/Duration, Technique, Emotion/Feel, Dynamics, Rhythm/Tempo, Phrasing and Rest/Space). Tone is powerful. Notes produced by [your instrument] will have different effects on listeners depending on the tone that's used. If you want people to dance, use a certain tone. If you want them to quiet down and listen another tone is necessary. If you want to heal, use another tone altogether.
andhemills 11 months ago
@andhemills When people call this music "atonal", they're talking about tonality or key, not timbre. They're not using "tone" in the same sense you are just used it. This music was written under a specific system in order to sound like it doesn't have a key or tonality.
beastraeatsall 9 months ago
Qui joue, s'il vous plaît ?
Lillars 1 year ago
@Lillars
Ils méritent d'être giflé.
BELACSAMOHT 10 months ago
no thanks lol
john3047X 1 year ago
beautiful
Foobitz 1 year ago
@Foobitz yes
FiatObscuritas 1 year ago
he's a genius
caelumnoct23 1 year ago 3
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This guy killed classical music. This is emperors new clothes music: if you don't like it you are obviously uneducated, spawning endless sycophants. Its a single brilliant idea that really gets very boring very quickly. Theres nothing wrong with it: it was original in its day. But classical music is intelectually stuck in this and cannot find a way out. Unless it does, in 20 years classical music will be as dead as a dodo and the world will be full of musical junkies hooked on Girls Aloud.
eaglesonofwill 1 year ago
@eaglesonofwill
Well, yes and no. Schönberg never meant for atonality to repress or even so much as replace tonality. He constructed something simply different and, imho, magnificently succeeded in doing so. One does not have to like it, but he never demanded anybody to do so. And something tells me that the "classics" will not die out because of this - they're simply, you know, too classy.
neme5151 1 year ago 2
omg ugly.
Ellebellebig 1 year ago
@Ellebellebig lol
FiatObscuritas 1 year ago
f you dont have a eat that can allow you to appreciate a composition like this one then you have to understand his system in order to appreciate his music,
gibrandogg 1 year ago
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Horrible. Just horrible...
glidingsparrow 2 years ago
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@glidingsparrow Music should come from the heart and soul, not from a system.
nihilus58 2 years ago
True, but that doesn't mean it can't sound like hell.
glidingsparrow 2 years ago
so what we need tonality for?
lioz51092 2 years ago 26
@lioz51092 you're so right!
johnstrieder 1 year ago
@lioz51092 The same reason we need this.
fissionesque 6 months ago
@glidingsparrow He's got a point. Obviously most people who are searching for Schönberg music are doing so because they like his music, but for most people it really does sound -- quite frankly -- bad. Schönberg's break from functional tonality is certainly an "acquired taste" if you will, and I don't except most people to like it.
BiggestPossible 2 years ago
@BiggestPossible tonality sucks.
russischeloesung 1 year ago
Who's playing this?
Hagensblood 2 years ago 11
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@Hagensblood A monkey.
BiggestPossible 2 years ago
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fissionesque 6 months ago
genial
miximaxman 2 years ago 3