one of the best lessons i seen in time! my books always hinted sounds get along with pictures wonderfully in terms of memory and perception. this os one beautiful example
It finally makes sense!! My fingers are moving all over with ease, little thought, and agreeable sound. Cheers Sir, you've helped me pass a major sticking point.
Tyler- if you follow part 1 -3 (it does get a bit obscure) I build a pattern that all modes can be found in. There are many modes, but I find that if you can recognize at least one pattern that fits all, then you at least have a baseline you can always fall back on.
@TylerGillMusic there is a book called Advanced modern rock guitar improvisation by Jon Finn that explains modes just like this. The chapter is actually called "Modes for morons"
(Don't have to be an expert to read the book either, its very broken down and easy to follow.)
You will find this pattern in every "Mode". For instance in the key of C (to keep it simple) in the Ionian Mode (Major Scale) you will find a rectangle on 1st & 2nd strings frets 5 & 8. In "E"- frets 9 & 12. Also, keep in mind that Modes can be thought of as the same scale pattern, but starting and ending on a different degree of the scale.
It made good good sense-I was trying to make learning scales easy by making geometrical shapes so it will be easy for me to remember all the sclaes ;but without much rotting the notes it contains ..This apporoach is best :D Thank you keep on sharing your experience and knowledge to us :)
hey man this is cool! i have been stuck in "the box" for what seems like ever...totally frustrated with my lack of understanding this whole fretboard thing. this may just be what i need to break out of it. the problem is i'm at work right now and i don't have my guitar !!! thanks though.
This sounds like a great method in learning the fretboard and the different boxes thanks! Have you noticed any patterns in finding roots or dominant notes in each shape though? I feel like i know the shapes for the most part the only thing is i feel like i don't know how to use each shape and go through notes in each shape without sounding too repetitive or scalular
@xxaleckzandurrex Would it be helpful to do a lesson that shows this pattern as it relates to progressions? For example this pattern falls in line differently over a Major or Jazz progression I, ii, iii, IV, V, vi, vii(dim) than it does over a blues progression. When played in the context of what chord you are playing over at that particular moment, "borrow" notes from that chord... ie the root, 3rd, 5th. 7, dom7.... etc to fill in the spaces
I am certain that this thing can help the ear also. I you can predict how a shape will sound, you know in advance what you will be playing and you will get out of the "finger over mind" syndrome!... Great lesson!
@10centguitar.... 1st & 2nd string, 3rd & 4th string, 5th & 6th string are the most obvious.... It does work on pair 4 & 5 as well, but I like the above mentioned ones the best because the patterns become octaves of each other. To me it is easier to keep track of. Because of the guitar's tuning, these patterns will be altered on pair 2 & 3..... However after becoming very familiar with these shapes, you'll be able to make them out ( a half step out of whack) there too. Hope it helps!
This is an Interesting conceptualization....breaks away from the traditional and yea, We all should have noticed it YEARS Ago LOL.....I havent looked closely yet but does this take into consideration the BLUE Note ( for Blues)...perhaps you cover this later??
Thanks for taking the time out of your day to SHARE your knowledge.
Ive been a guitar player for 40 years and Still learn from everyone.My favorite lesson to teach -It pays to Listen to everyone & look close for valuable information.
@tqg2010 Strictly pentatonic (skeletal). Works in major too. Next lesson talks about filling in additional notes. This is where blue notes can be added.
I got a book called monster guitar scales and modes. It has all of those notes you laid out, but not with the explanation that you gave. This lesson came right in time. Thank you for a great lesson.
Wow that really helps! My problem is that I have memorized A pentatonic and am overwhelmed with how to memorize all the of scales; B C D E F etc. Does this work for all of them, or do you have another trick? Thank you very much!!
Are you referring to playing blues / pentatonic in different keys? (ie B C D E... etc) Pentatonic is playing 5 out of 8 notes in a scale. When (& where) the "rectangle" shows up in any pentatonic you will find this pattern to be consistent. If you can grind your way through lesson 2 and then through lesson 3 (modes) then come back to "soloing in a major key" it all kind of comes together. One of the things that has helped me is to start looking at scales as patterns instead of specific notes.
you just blew my mind. well done.
mexicutioner84 3 days ago
one of the best lessons i seen in time! my books always hinted sounds get along with pictures wonderfully in terms of memory and perception. this os one beautiful example
unionaerolabs 3 days ago
and thanks
betinho1126 1 week ago
you are the fucking man!!!!
betinho1126 1 week ago
Your trapezoid just sunk my battleship.
azwald 3 weeks ago
It finally makes sense!! My fingers are moving all over with ease, little thought, and agreeable sound. Cheers Sir, you've helped me pass a major sticking point.
dereknobert 1 month ago
@dereknobert From one level to the next, my friend
BricksJamRoom 1 month ago
Amazing lessons my friend! I think I´ve learned more today then I´ve learned the last 2 years!
Supergreat and easy to understand! Cheers from Sweden!
Stiffmeister1973 1 month ago
clever thing mapping out shapes ^^
JoshuaVergara2777 2 months ago
That's amazing! Thank you so much! If you think of a clever way to memorize modes...let me know ;)
TylerGillMusic 2 months ago
Tyler- if you follow part 1 -3 (it does get a bit obscure) I build a pattern that all modes can be found in. There are many modes, but I find that if you can recognize at least one pattern that fits all, then you at least have a baseline you can always fall back on.
BricksJamRoom 2 months ago
@TylerGillMusic there is a book called Advanced modern rock guitar improvisation by Jon Finn that explains modes just like this. The chapter is actually called "Modes for morons"
(Don't have to be an expert to read the book either, its very broken down and easy to follow.)
dbarnes0147 2 months ago
Brilliant. No one takes time to davinci code their guitar. Well certainly not me
pennstateyo 2 months ago
thanks very much!
theluckyhustler91 3 months ago
Great instruction!!!!!!
pbuena01 3 months ago
So we get out of playing in the boxes by playing in the squares, rectangles, and trapezoid, which are all shapes of boxes?
jimistephen 4 months ago
Very well explained - thank you!
nicedog1 6 months ago
Thanks BricksJamRoom! Great method, it really helped me a lot. Can this be done with other schales? Greetings from Portugal!
Lacobrigense79 7 months ago
Hi Lacobrigense79:
You will find this pattern in every "Mode". For instance in the key of C (to keep it simple) in the Ionian Mode (Major Scale) you will find a rectangle on 1st & 2nd strings frets 5 & 8. In "E"- frets 9 & 12. Also, keep in mind that Modes can be thought of as the same scale pattern, but starting and ending on a different degree of the scale.
BricksJamRoom 7 months ago
@BricksJamRoom
WOW, you just blown my mind, i never thought it could be so easy to learn schales! Thank you!
Lacobrigense79 7 months ago
@Lacobrigense79
I wish I could organize my thoughts better and send them back 20 years to myself.... now that would be helpful!
BricksJamRoom 7 months ago
It made good good sense-I was trying to make learning scales easy by making geometrical shapes so it will be easy for me to remember all the sclaes ;but without much rotting the notes it contains ..This apporoach is best :D Thank you keep on sharing your experience and knowledge to us :)
19990SAND 7 months ago
Hey! thanks for this great idea. It will certainly help the learning process for me. I'm looking for that "Part 2" now!!
downhill240 8 months ago
HI,
I enjoyed that... Have you checked to see if there' s a similar pattern with the melodic minor scale?...which is good for playing jazz...
Thanks!
Rowlandph 8 months ago
hey man this is cool! i have been stuck in "the box" for what seems like ever...totally frustrated with my lack of understanding this whole fretboard thing. this may just be what i need to break out of it. the problem is i'm at work right now and i don't have my guitar !!! thanks though.
cwmiller2006 9 months ago
Came across this video about six months ago. Have been showing this method to others since. Excellent.
jennyomalley 9 months ago
This sounds like a great method in learning the fretboard and the different boxes thanks! Have you noticed any patterns in finding roots or dominant notes in each shape though? I feel like i know the shapes for the most part the only thing is i feel like i don't know how to use each shape and go through notes in each shape without sounding too repetitive or scalular
xxaleckzandurrex 9 months ago
@xxaleckzandurrex Would it be helpful to do a lesson that shows this pattern as it relates to progressions? For example this pattern falls in line differently over a Major or Jazz progression I, ii, iii, IV, V, vi, vii(dim) than it does over a blues progression. When played in the context of what chord you are playing over at that particular moment, "borrow" notes from that chord... ie the root, 3rd, 5th. 7, dom7.... etc to fill in the spaces
BricksJamRoom 9 months ago
I am certain that this thing can help the ear also. I you can predict how a shape will sound, you know in advance what you will be playing and you will get out of the "finger over mind" syndrome!... Great lesson!
OldJong 9 months ago
Best pentatonic teaching method i've ever seen! And your explanation of it was very clear!! Congrats!!
bundr 9 months ago
Blew my mind, cool lesson, thanks.
JMo5187 10 months ago
Wow!!! That was a great discovery man. Iv been playing guitar for a long time and never came to realize that before.
It makes it a lot easyer to solo using the pentatonics.....
Thanks for sharing that info.
Cheers.
hudsontoronto 11 months ago
Beautiful guitar
educassiano 1 year ago
Wow, that is incredible! What a discovery!
ClaptonKehoe 1 year ago
Thank you so much for share this info with us! It was very helpful!
Lbridge911 1 year ago
An excellent lesson. More please.
ednaplate 1 year ago
Hi,
Google ....Warp refraction + guitar and you will find a book written by Jon Finn.
Mel Bay Presents Advanced Modern Rock Guitar Improvisation by Jon Finn (Jul 1, 1999)
Great job as not many people ever discover what you found.
tractorbooty15 1 year ago
that was awesome!!! great work!
BKstrained 1 year ago
this only works for the strings a 4th apart right?
10centguitar 1 year ago
@10centguitar.... 1st & 2nd string, 3rd & 4th string, 5th & 6th string are the most obvious.... It does work on pair 4 & 5 as well, but I like the above mentioned ones the best because the patterns become octaves of each other. To me it is easier to keep track of. Because of the guitar's tuning, these patterns will be altered on pair 2 & 3..... However after becoming very familiar with these shapes, you'll be able to make them out ( a half step out of whack) there too. Hope it helps!
BricksJamRoom 1 year ago
this only works for the strings a 4th apart right? G-B would work this way right?
10centguitar 1 year ago
It actually doesn't make any sence but makes SENSE to me =)
DrNitro09 1 year ago
holy shit this is very helpful every guitarist should watch this
MegaSam1992 1 year ago
dude. i love you!
MatthewEdwardHall 1 year ago
that was really clever and awesome - thx!
pterantula 1 year ago
man great lesson ty so much so much help for the noobie here haha
Parazytic 1 year ago
This is an Interesting conceptualization....breaks away from the traditional and yea, We all should have noticed it YEARS Ago LOL.....I havent looked closely yet but does this take into consideration the BLUE Note ( for Blues)...perhaps you cover this later??
Thanks for taking the time out of your day to SHARE your knowledge.
Ive been a guitar player for 40 years and Still learn from everyone.My favorite lesson to teach -It pays to Listen to everyone & look close for valuable information.
tqg2010 1 year ago
@tqg2010 Strictly pentatonic (skeletal). Works in major too. Next lesson talks about filling in additional notes. This is where blue notes can be added.
brickak14 1 year ago
I got a book called monster guitar scales and modes. It has all of those notes you laid out, but not with the explanation that you gave. This lesson came right in time. Thank you for a great lesson.
Thehardone 1 year ago
dont get it?
dhjr15 1 year ago
I am impressed at how you squeezed just four shapes out of the whole fretboard. Very good.
AustinNeel2007 1 year ago
Woah. Talk about a whole new way to look at the pent. scale. Thanks for the lesson.
scoreonthis16 2 years ago
Wow that really helps! My problem is that I have memorized A pentatonic and am overwhelmed with how to memorize all the of scales; B C D E F etc. Does this work for all of them, or do you have another trick? Thank you very much!!
BrocWorst 2 years ago
Are you referring to playing blues / pentatonic in different keys? (ie B C D E... etc) Pentatonic is playing 5 out of 8 notes in a scale. When (& where) the "rectangle" shows up in any pentatonic you will find this pattern to be consistent. If you can grind your way through lesson 2 and then through lesson 3 (modes) then come back to "soloing in a major key" it all kind of comes together. One of the things that has helped me is to start looking at scales as patterns instead of specific notes.
BricksJamRoom 2 years ago
Flipping Beautiful Man!!! How elegant of an observation!!! You are beautiful!
cherfelss 2 years ago
man you rock this helped me allot
elvarwinston 2 years ago
Lol I wish I had watched this before I memorized all the boxes LOL
Metalhead92787 2 years ago
Thanks so much for this!
nosdog136 2 years ago
sweet mr.brickwell you and luke should do a collaberation video jamming
Bluesboyfella 2 years ago
Excellent Brick! You need to keep these coming.
dkshow 2 years ago