@t680277 yes, and it may even be better. gas checks only prevent gas's from blowing past the base.. where a copper jacket prevents all contact to the lead. at atgreloading , we have others who have used this method for many many types of bullets with great results. including high powered rifle cals.
@Ma77hew Nope,. not at all.. in fact, we have some other people in our group who have shot these bullets without issues.. they have also shot lead cast bullets copper plated, with NO leading at all..
@danratsnapnames thats good, is it really worth coating your cast bullets with it or was it just a fun little experiment? Do you coat all your bullets with it?
@Ma77hew well, i have only started doing this, and have yet to get time at the range to try them out. my main goal is to be able to make a thick enough copper plate that i could plate a 308 cal cast bullet, and be able to shoot high power rifle. but lets look at the benifits thus far. see my next post
@Ma77hew copper sulfate average $10 for 2lb bottle which lasts for well.. damn near forever. whatever copper you use for your copper source, i use scrap copper. and the energy to power a 12v power supply unit.. little to nothing. as opposed to a bottle of liquid alox bullet lube for $6.95 plus $8 shipping from midway. and the alox bullet lube may still result in Some or little leading in the barrel.. where copper plating, NONE.. seems like copper plating is the better and cheaper route.
@danratsnapnames yeah thats what I figured, the liquid alox is good, but it makes my barrel soo dirty, I was also looking into swaging, buts its soo expensive. I will give this copper plating a try and see how well it goes. Thanks for the vid!
@Ma77hew swaging expensive??? naw.. not if you know some people.. for instance, i was able to make a 45 ACP swaging die from a 243 bullet seating die.
and i'm making a 223 swaging die from a modified 17 rem die..
@danratsnapnames well i think swaging is excessive for pistol plinking rounds, swaging would show much more benefits for rifle bullets, I would prefer a nice swaged rifle bullet over a cast and plated rifle bullet, due to the higher velocities and pressures. Not to mention, I don't even have a bench press loader, all I have is a Lee hand press for my small amounts of pistol ammunition I make.
@Ma77hew there's benifits to either of the two methods. where swaged bullet has a brass jacket, plated jackets are 100% copper. also when swaging, you can never really get a FMJ, where with plating you can. swaging for pistol is a great thing, even for planking, if you plank on a 100 yard range, its fun to whip out a 45, and hit something at 100 yards.. where with lead cast planking, you maybe able to hit something at 100 yards, but not very often. swaging offers better weight control.
also, swaging allows you to push the bullet at far greater speeds.. high powered rifle, its a diff story.. there's no easy way to modify a brass case to become a 308 cal projectile. there are some cases, that could be made into 308 cal, but you have to sheer the ejector rim, and those cases are kind of rare on the range for pickup. 40 being very popular works well due to that fact. where plating you dont have to depend on avialable brass.
Thanks for the vid. Got a bit more understanding of how you made this. In the next week or so, I am going to give it a try. I have to wait till I get my lathe working proper so that I can turn me a size die to size down a few thousands so the plating will size bigger then size back to the right size.
@daywalker627 man, oh man.. wish i had a lathe. boy what things i could make with one of those.. lol. good luck.. may want to push for at least .050 jacket thickness.. but i dunno.. still trying to find out what the best is.
man that is cool my mind just blew up.
762hillboy 1 year ago
@762hillboy lol.. if you think thats cool, you should check out the Copper Top swaged 45acp bullets from 40acp brass.
danratsnapnames 1 year ago
hello there i was watching your videos on copper plating and i have a question is the copper plating just as good as useing a gas check
t680277 1 year ago
@t680277 yes, and it may even be better. gas checks only prevent gas's from blowing past the base.. where a copper jacket prevents all contact to the lead. at atgreloading , we have others who have used this method for many many types of bullets with great results. including high powered rifle cals.
danratsnapnames 1 year ago
when you run it through the sizer after coating them with copper, does the copper rub off within the sizing die?
Ma77hew 1 year ago
@Ma77hew Nope,. not at all.. in fact, we have some other people in our group who have shot these bullets without issues.. they have also shot lead cast bullets copper plated, with NO leading at all..
danratsnapnames 1 year ago
@danratsnapnames thats good, is it really worth coating your cast bullets with it or was it just a fun little experiment? Do you coat all your bullets with it?
Ma77hew 1 year ago
@Ma77hew well, i have only started doing this, and have yet to get time at the range to try them out. my main goal is to be able to make a thick enough copper plate that i could plate a 308 cal cast bullet, and be able to shoot high power rifle. but lets look at the benifits thus far. see my next post
danratsnapnames 1 year ago
@Ma77hew copper sulfate average $10 for 2lb bottle which lasts for well.. damn near forever. whatever copper you use for your copper source, i use scrap copper. and the energy to power a 12v power supply unit.. little to nothing. as opposed to a bottle of liquid alox bullet lube for $6.95 plus $8 shipping from midway. and the alox bullet lube may still result in Some or little leading in the barrel.. where copper plating, NONE.. seems like copper plating is the better and cheaper route.
danratsnapnames 1 year ago
@danratsnapnames yeah thats what I figured, the liquid alox is good, but it makes my barrel soo dirty, I was also looking into swaging, buts its soo expensive. I will give this copper plating a try and see how well it goes. Thanks for the vid!
Ma77hew 1 year ago
@Ma77hew swaging expensive??? naw.. not if you know some people.. for instance, i was able to make a 45 ACP swaging die from a 243 bullet seating die.
and i'm making a 223 swaging die from a modified 17 rem die..
danratsnapnames 1 year ago
@danratsnapnames well i think swaging is excessive for pistol plinking rounds, swaging would show much more benefits for rifle bullets, I would prefer a nice swaged rifle bullet over a cast and plated rifle bullet, due to the higher velocities and pressures. Not to mention, I don't even have a bench press loader, all I have is a Lee hand press for my small amounts of pistol ammunition I make.
Ma77hew 1 year ago
@Ma77hew there's benifits to either of the two methods. where swaged bullet has a brass jacket, plated jackets are 100% copper. also when swaging, you can never really get a FMJ, where with plating you can. swaging for pistol is a great thing, even for planking, if you plank on a 100 yard range, its fun to whip out a 45, and hit something at 100 yards.. where with lead cast planking, you maybe able to hit something at 100 yards, but not very often. swaging offers better weight control.
danratsnapnames 1 year ago
also, swaging allows you to push the bullet at far greater speeds.. high powered rifle, its a diff story.. there's no easy way to modify a brass case to become a 308 cal projectile. there are some cases, that could be made into 308 cal, but you have to sheer the ejector rim, and those cases are kind of rare on the range for pickup. 40 being very popular works well due to that fact. where plating you dont have to depend on avialable brass.
danratsnapnames 1 year ago
Great video!!! Thanks for sharing.
brreed82 1 year ago
Thanks for the vid. Got a bit more understanding of how you made this. In the next week or so, I am going to give it a try. I have to wait till I get my lathe working proper so that I can turn me a size die to size down a few thousands so the plating will size bigger then size back to the right size.
Thanks man... God bless you and yours..
daywalker627 1 year ago
@daywalker627 man, oh man.. wish i had a lathe. boy what things i could make with one of those.. lol. good luck.. may want to push for at least .050 jacket thickness.. but i dunno.. still trying to find out what the best is.
danratsnapnames 1 year ago