Nice and modern aircraft, realy nice sound, and i think he was most easyer to handle at ground with they tricycle landing gear: many many accident (landing or take of) with all other fighter with tail dragger gear (bad ground control and bad forward visibility).
The Russian pilot like it and found it very efficient...
The P-51 gets all the glory, some deserved, other somewhat inflated. Many wonderful airplanes from that period from all sides. America in particular, was on its game when it came to flying and the P-63 is a perfect example. No machine can do it all.
If anybody can confirm or deny something that I've read, I'd be grateful.
There's a research paper on the net that says that the P-63's Allison had a second supercharger, driven through a fluid coupling, and that the engine itself and the 2-stage 'charger compared well with the Merlin's, EXCEPT that the Allison didn't have a top-notch intercooling system, and that was its real disadvantage.
That would seem to make sense, but I lack the expertise to know for certain if it's true.
@NucularCorpseman The allison engine in the p-63 could compete but what held it back was the lack of fuel it could carry. The mustang the way it was designed could carry more fuel linked with the merlin engine is what made the mustang a legend. Now i am going to be a asshole. North american cheated those bastards waited for lockheed and bell to do all of the hard work so they could end up with all the glory. All the testing of airfoils and other stuff.
I there some sort of clutch? I thought I read something long ago that when you engaged the drive shaft (and the propeller I suppose) you could feel the drive shaft tunnel twist under the load.
I always liked the 12 exhaust stacks on each side. Just another unique feature on a innovative, unique plane. The P-63 also has the distinction of being the first American fighter plane to be used (by the French) in the 10.000 day war, also known as the Vietnam war.l
Does the gear reduction from the crankshaft occur at the engine or just after the cockpit? If it where after the cockpit it would allow more room for the pilot? Just a thought...
Had a Testors "Jungle Fighter" CL model plane of this which was in the pinball configuration with the dome behind the canopy. Then some dickweed tossed a rag in front of it and crashed it. :(
The MGs shooting at the RP-63s used frangible bullets made from bakelite btw.
Don't forget the RP-63s flown in the US during the war. My grandfather flew them and authored the book, "Operation Pinball." Though the P-63s didn't see action over seas for the US, they did see combative action INSIDE the U.S. as piloted drones. In fact, several were shot down during aerial gunnery training. They were armored with thick aluminum, but sometimes the frangible bullets hit a soft spot. Also, the gunnery training was done with .30 cals instead of .50s to keep the damage down.
The only trick the british did with the merlin engine is stacking a supercharger on top of another super charger. That is what gave the merlin high alltitude service. The AAC was focused on turbosuperchargers to do the same thing for high alltitude. For the p-39 and the p-63 they eliminated the turbos, killing high alltitude capabililtys.
Great video, I wonder when somebody will build a replica of this fine bird? About 80-85% scale, and you'd have a very nice aircraft. Of course, a two seater is probably out of the question. Thanks for posting, Don
The driveshaft is right on top of the cockpit floor, between the pilot's legs. A thin piece of sheet aluminum covers it. It looks like the transmission hump on the floor of your car, only much smaller (only 3"-4" wide).
I almost have a sympathy for the P-39's and P-63's, I mean, everyone wanted to make them amazing, new features with the motor location, landing gear, and a bunch of other things, and they ended up not even seeing service for the U.S., I wonder what they'd be like with merlins......
The engine protects the pilot, saving weight on cabin armour. It also makes any kind of spin terminal which is rather unfortunate in an aircraft that needs to out manoeuvre it's opponent.
I AGREE A LOVELY AIRCRAFT - it seemed way ahead of its time - im no aircraft engineer- the like the allison for low altitude- it would be nice to see what this aircraft could do with a merlin. maybe it could have been really deadly against even the german focke wolf. If i were a a pilot and i am not- it seems to me it would be the perfect plane. engine in the middle for good balance and tricycle gear for good taxi ing. i think it could have been truely great. and it looks supurb.
if they had kept the super charger in the airacobra they would have had alot better aircaft, i'm not too sure you can call it a lovely aircaft, more workman like than lovely!
If I'm not mistaken and memory serves me well...I know this sounds weird but I think the engine in a kingcobra wa not in the nose at all ...it was mid fuselage or so with a long driveshaft?????anyone else care to elaborate?
Your insight serves you well, young Skywalker. Both Kingcobra and Airacobra had the engine mounted behind the pilot. The designers had the idea that keeping the engine close to the aircraft's center of gravity would make it more manoeverable. In the event, it didn't. As a fighter, both aircraft were disappointing, but they proved very useful in the ground attack role. The Soviets loved them and took all they could get their hands on.
Somehow, sitting above a spinning shaft going thousands of RPM between my legs would be unnerving. But the Reds loved them, I agree, compared to their Polikarpovs, Sturmorviks, and Yaks.
the soviets used them for greater effect as ground attack aircraft, if the designers had kept the supercharger which was supposed to be fitted to the airacobra they would have had far better aircaft.
The Yaks (especially Yak-3) were good fighters. At lower altitudes Yak-3s were better than Me-109s and FW-190s. Also the Sturmovik wasn't a fighter. It was a specialized ground attack plane so you can't really compare it to a P-63.
They were actually orange, but you are correct. He was shit down three times over the United States during the war but by US gunners. How many people can say that (though I'm not sure it's a bragging right!)?
P-63 was one of the best Low Alt fighters ever built IIRC. It was probably the fastest with speeds on the deck at 425mph +. Could out run the russian La-7.
p-63s were awesome, and imo they should have replaced all p-40s that were still being used. Or they should have been sent even to the 23rd fighter group which was in need of more planes. Even so, at least the russians utilized this great plane
I'm glad the comments pointed out that the Russians appreciated the P-63 and the P-39, (and the P-40), in fact, some of their top aces (as many as 60 kills) flew them. The difference was, that most combat on the Eastern front was at low altitude, where they performed best.
Very nice vid. A very rare sound indeed. I was in a hangar at Van Nuys Airport in the '70's and saw a P-63 up close, being restored. I was amazed that the driveshaft ran under the pilot's nuts and thru an arch in the control stick. I wonder if this is the same aircraft I saw.
A P-63 from Walla Walla,Washington,intercepted a Japanese balloon bomb near Redmond,chasing it in a cross-country that necessitated two refueling stops for the Kingcobra before the fighter shot the balloon out of the sky near Reno,Nevada.
Actually it was the earlier P-39 Airacobra that was used in the Pacific early in the war. Thousands of them, and later P-63s, were sent to Russia where they were more successful. The P-63 never saw action with the US in the war.
A great posting The Bell P-63 Kingcobra was used by the USAAF in Northern Australia & New Guinea during the dark days of 1942-43. They in numbers turned on many a Jap formation sending a number of Jap pilots to an early appointment with their ansecestor. well done
P-63s didn't see combat in US service. I believe you are thinking of the P-39 Airacobra, which did see extensive use in New Guinea (and Alaska, North Africa, Italy and especially the Eastern Front where the Soviets were the biggest user of the P-39).
BEAUTY!!!
VitaminC440 2 months ago
Nothing like a drive shaft under your "package".
squizzoo 2 months ago
Always was a sharp looking aircraft!
Stuckey57 6 months ago
Never see enuff P-63's or P-39's at airshows these days.
Thank you for posting this ... one has to love that odd mid engine set up.
Such a unique ww2 aircraft ! TY TY and TY ~
apatheticempathy 7 months ago
@apatheticempathy Hell, I've never seen one. Not in Virginia.
kolbpilot 6 months ago
Nice and modern aircraft, realy nice sound, and i think he was most easyer to handle at ground with they tricycle landing gear: many many accident (landing or take of) with all other fighter with tail dragger gear (bad ground control and bad forward visibility).
The Russian pilot like it and found it very efficient...
oiseautempete 7 months ago
Great Post one of my favorite planes of WW2 (along with the P-39)
Greenhornet270 8 months ago
The P-51 gets all the glory, some deserved, other somewhat inflated. Many wonderful airplanes from that period from all sides. America in particular, was on its game when it came to flying and the P-63 is a perfect example. No machine can do it all.
kolbpilot 8 months ago
Great sound.
wildcatactual 9 months ago
Wonderfull!!!!
penetriergott 9 months ago
What a totally unique sound, I've never heard a cobra before...i like it.
WardogOtter 10 months ago
Not a world beater but certainly an effective fighter given the right tasks.
I remember reading about how the Soviet prefer them over P-40s, mostly because of their effectiveness against ground targets.
Eurofighter19 10 months ago
If anybody can confirm or deny something that I've read, I'd be grateful.
There's a research paper on the net that says that the P-63's Allison had a second supercharger, driven through a fluid coupling, and that the engine itself and the 2-stage 'charger compared well with the Merlin's, EXCEPT that the Allison didn't have a top-notch intercooling system, and that was its real disadvantage.
That would seem to make sense, but I lack the expertise to know for certain if it's true.
NucularCorpseman 1 year ago
@NucularCorpseman The allison engine in the p-63 could compete but what held it back was the lack of fuel it could carry. The mustang the way it was designed could carry more fuel linked with the merlin engine is what made the mustang a legend. Now i am going to be a asshole. North american cheated those bastards waited for lockheed and bell to do all of the hard work so they could end up with all the glory. All the testing of airfoils and other stuff.
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WORTHLESSCUNT 10 months ago
I there some sort of clutch? I thought I read something long ago that when you engaged the drive shaft (and the propeller I suppose) you could feel the drive shaft tunnel twist under the load.
kolbpilot 1 year ago
Sure, not the most respected or best, but I STILL WANT ONE!!!
Flyboy207 1 year ago
Great little plane. It can out perform a P 51 at most altitudes and the 37mm cannon was absolutely devastating in the hands of an expert pilot.
nbachmann 1 year ago
woops, never mind my comment...I just looked up some info, and I was completely mistaken!
pheenix42 1 year ago
Russia sure loved them....with the nose mounted cannon, it was terrific as a tank killer.
Thanks for the upload! =)
pheenix42 1 year ago
Really nice video this is one of my favorite planes .......
bikewhiz 1 year ago
I always liked the 12 exhaust stacks on each side. Just another unique feature on a innovative, unique plane. The P-63 also has the distinction of being the first American fighter plane to be used (by the French) in the 10.000 day war, also known as the Vietnam war.l
kolbpilot 1 year ago
i love this bird very nice form factor and beautiful noise
iphone3gs2208 1 year ago
Великолепная машина!
Bruno47602 1 year ago
She sounds great!
pdutube 1 year ago
Does the gear reduction from the crankshaft occur at the engine or just after the cockpit? If it where after the cockpit it would allow more room for the pilot? Just a thought...
BikerRussell 1 year ago
@BikerRussell : The reduction gear case is all the way up in the nose, just a few inches behind the propeller.
octane130 1 year ago
Had a Testors "Jungle Fighter" CL model plane of this which was in the pinball configuration with the dome behind the canopy. Then some dickweed tossed a rag in front of it and crashed it. :(
The MGs shooting at the RP-63s used frangible bullets made from bakelite btw.
RocketTCoyote 2 years ago
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Stickman53fe 2 years ago
They sure were. In fact, the rounds were so soft that the lights in the RP-63s indicating hits often didn't register.
Stickman53fe 2 years ago
The soviets loved this plane.
flexyco 2 years ago 2
Don't forget the RP-63s flown in the US during the war. My grandfather flew them and authored the book, "Operation Pinball." Though the P-63s didn't see action over seas for the US, they did see combative action INSIDE the U.S. as piloted drones. In fact, several were shot down during aerial gunnery training. They were armored with thick aluminum, but sometimes the frangible bullets hit a soft spot. Also, the gunnery training was done with .30 cals instead of .50s to keep the damage down.
Stickman53fe 2 years ago
@Stickman53fe No shit...wow I've never heard of it. I'll have to look that up. Thanks for the info.
rlgdestroyu 2 years ago
Anytime. Go to my page on youtube if you want more info.
Stickman53fe 2 years ago
@Stickman53fe Based on this posting of yours, I bought the book and enjoyed it very much. Thanks much for the tip!
nagmashdriver 1 year ago
@nagmashdriver Glad you enjoyed it!
Stickman53fe 1 year ago
That looks like a really fun toy!
rockyPants4000 2 years ago
The only trick the british did with the merlin engine is stacking a supercharger on top of another super charger. That is what gave the merlin high alltitude service. The AAC was focused on turbosuperchargers to do the same thing for high alltitude. For the p-39 and the p-63 they eliminated the turbos, killing high alltitude capabililtys.
BudweiserDiary 2 years ago
Great video, I wonder when somebody will build a replica of this fine bird? About 80-85% scale, and you'd have a very nice aircraft. Of course, a two seater is probably out of the question. Thanks for posting, Don
f82man 2 years ago
man nothing beats the sound of ww2 war bird
wisdomstar1981 2 years ago 8
The driveshaft is right on top of the cockpit floor, between the pilot's legs. A thin piece of sheet aluminum covers it. It looks like the transmission hump on the floor of your car, only much smaller (only 3"-4" wide).
octane130 2 years ago
How close does the drive shaft get to the pilot? Love them Allison's JA
powerhungrytoo 2 years ago
They should have put it in Russian paint. At least the Russians (apparently) used them.
jabberwock11 2 years ago 2
Outstanding, very rare airplane.
carlosmurphy4u 3 years ago 8
I almost have a sympathy for the P-39's and P-63's, I mean, everyone wanted to make them amazing, new features with the motor location, landing gear, and a bunch of other things, and they ended up not even seeing service for the U.S., I wonder what they'd be like with merlins......
blewett76 3 years ago
sexy just sexy i dont give a F what her critics say my 4th fav ww2 fighter
phonix032 3 years ago 2
Nice video, well shot. That Kingcobra looks great!
propfan2k 3 years ago 2
The engine protects the pilot, saving weight on cabin armour. It also makes any kind of spin terminal which is rather unfortunate in an aircraft that needs to out manoeuvre it's opponent.
KnockoffNigeI 3 years ago
yea to bad it came late in the war though. Great aircraft sure is wonderful.
twistrsfinalplea 3 years ago
Where are the cooling radiators on it?
BikerRussell 3 years ago
Two in each wing root, and one over the cockpit
NazarovVv 3 years ago
That old Allison sounds great
LocomotiveBreth 3 years ago
I AGREE A LOVELY AIRCRAFT - it seemed way ahead of its time - im no aircraft engineer- the like the allison for low altitude- it would be nice to see what this aircraft could do with a merlin. maybe it could have been really deadly against even the german focke wolf. If i were a a pilot and i am not- it seems to me it would be the perfect plane. engine in the middle for good balance and tricycle gear for good taxi ing. i think it could have been truely great. and it looks supurb.
barryhulio 3 years ago
if they had kept the super charger in the airacobra they would have had alot better aircaft, i'm not too sure you can call it a lovely aircaft, more workman like than lovely!
pramboy74 3 years ago
Sounds real rough and like a cammed v8 in the startup, really nice!
timmie426 3 years ago
what is airport ID for Palm Springs Air Museeum?
UNSClead1 3 years ago
The ID is PSP
octane130 3 years ago
If I'm not mistaken and memory serves me well...I know this sounds weird but I think the engine in a kingcobra wa not in the nose at all ...it was mid fuselage or so with a long driveshaft?????anyone else care to elaborate?
MikeChambers1001 3 years ago
Your insight serves you well, young Skywalker. Both Kingcobra and Airacobra had the engine mounted behind the pilot. The designers had the idea that keeping the engine close to the aircraft's center of gravity would make it more manoeverable. In the event, it didn't. As a fighter, both aircraft were disappointing, but they proved very useful in the ground attack role. The Soviets loved them and took all they could get their hands on.
MarsFKA 3 years ago
Actually there was another reason for putting the motor in the rear. It gave them the room to fit a 37mm cannon in the nose.
BudweiserDiary 3 years ago
Yes yes! I beleive that the shells actually came out dead-on-center from the spinner.
Great sound on fly-by too! Thanks.
halnwheels 3 years ago
Somehow, sitting above a spinning shaft going thousands of RPM between my legs would be unnerving. But the Reds loved them, I agree, compared to their Polikarpovs, Sturmorviks, and Yaks.
catman351 3 years ago
the soviets used them for greater effect as ground attack aircraft, if the designers had kept the supercharger which was supposed to be fitted to the airacobra they would have had far better aircaft.
pramboy74 3 years ago
The Yaks (especially Yak-3) were good fighters. At lower altitudes Yak-3s were better than Me-109s and FW-190s. Also the Sturmovik wasn't a fighter. It was a specialized ground attack plane so you can't really compare it to a P-63.
jabberwock11 2 years ago
@jabberwock11
What about the Mig-3? They were good fighters too.
stephenwinkler 1 year ago
Yup...nice engine sound. Thanks for the awesome vid.
urrachunt 3 years ago
That engine noise is just delicious! ;)
SmiertSpionem 3 years ago
Lovely! I have a model kit for the 'Pinball' target plane version of the p-63.
SmiertSpionem 3 years ago
My Grandfather flew those RP-63s in the 40's. He wrote a book called Operation Pinball. He was literally a human target.
Stickman53fe 2 years ago
Are those the ones that lit up when you shot them :)
GerbilEssences 2 years ago
You got it! The Pinball light system wasn't very good though so it only worked some of the time.
Stickman53fe 2 years ago
read the book some years ago..(early 90's)pink king cobras with the flashing lights..dangerous way to make a living.
Marauder0090 2 years ago
They were actually orange, but you are correct. He was shit down three times over the United States during the war but by US gunners. How many people can say that (though I'm not sure it's a bragging right!)?
Stickman53fe 2 years ago 3
P-63 was one of the best Low Alt fighters ever built IIRC. It was probably the fastest with speeds on the deck at 425mph +. Could out run the russian La-7.
theblink3 3 years ago 2
Is this the one that crashed :(
bilbommer 3 years ago
p-63s were awesome, and imo they should have replaced all p-40s that were still being used. Or they should have been sent even to the 23rd fighter group which was in need of more planes. Even so, at least the russians utilized this great plane
yakovlev3a 3 years ago
lean and sleek. great video of a neglected fighter . . . thanks!
trilingual 3 years ago
Neglected fighter indeed, a beautiful machine.
johnbakoda 3 years ago
I'm glad the comments pointed out that the Russians appreciated the P-63 and the P-39, (and the P-40), in fact, some of their top aces (as many as 60 kills) flew them. The difference was, that most combat on the Eastern front was at low altitude, where they performed best.
AndreiTupolev 3 years ago
Very nice vid. A very rare sound indeed. I was in a hangar at Van Nuys Airport in the '70's and saw a P-63 up close, being restored. I was amazed that the driveshaft ran under the pilot's nuts and thru an arch in the control stick. I wonder if this is the same aircraft I saw.
kimmer6 3 years ago
21 March 1945
A P-63 from Walla Walla,Washington,intercepted a Japanese balloon bomb near Redmond,chasing it in a cross-country that necessitated two refueling stops for the Kingcobra before the fighter shot the balloon out of the sky near Reno,Nevada.
Kataphraktoi 3 years ago
fascinating, was the balloon going slower than the P-63 stall speed?
SmiertSpionem 3 years ago
You're right about the sound -awesome ! What a fantastic aircraft..
DrHoldowicz 3 years ago
Actually it was the earlier P-39 Airacobra that was used in the Pacific early in the war. Thousands of them, and later P-63s, were sent to Russia where they were more successful. The P-63 never saw action with the US in the war.
Wombat403 4 years ago
This would have been a remarkable plane if the turbosupercharger would not have been deleted from the original plans.
wolfie672 4 years ago
great video, also for military enthusiasts, check out hmvftv com, also you could post your vids on there, thanks
77gnu89 4 years ago
Nice, love it. Thanks. These saw action.
Dunwyche 4 years ago
i prefer the Airacobra
Typhoon1 4 years ago
Great engine but u cant beat the P51 D Mustang.
Eliotthecool 4 years ago
Love your vid's octane!!
xKmotx 4 years ago 2
A great posting The Bell P-63 Kingcobra was used by the USAAF in Northern Australia & New Guinea during the dark days of 1942-43. They in numbers turned on many a Jap formation sending a number of Jap pilots to an early appointment with their ansecestor. well done
fordroad 4 years ago
P-63s didn't see combat in US service. I believe you are thinking of the P-39 Airacobra, which did see extensive use in New Guinea (and Alaska, North Africa, Italy and especially the Eastern Front where the Soviets were the biggest user of the P-39).
MrKase01 4 years ago