Look guys superheroes are mdoern myths and can thus be interpreted in a variety of different ways. I imagine Lee and Kirby were influenced by racism (Civil Rights Black power, I have a dream, which was delivered months prior to X-Men's first publication), the counter culture of young against the old and general adolecence all at the same time
@saidi7975 yes thank u, his run is the ONLY X-Men run ive read from start to finish and iv read random 90s, 80s, 70s and even 60s stories and felt them ALL superior. for starters they all had actual battle scenes AND characterisation. remember when Iceman had that hang up about his lack of potential after Emma Frost took over his mind and used his powers bttr than he did. THAT came up in fights, characterisation AND action simultaniously.
@227060 New X-Men did have action and characterization going on simultaneously, though. Remember when Cyclops fought Magneto/Xorn in #150? That was more than just a fight scene: that was Cyclops taking out all of his frustrations, starting with his failed relationships and ending with Xorn's betrayal, on Magnus.
@LordBifford Not racism: the X-Men. Think about it; the original stories featured five teenagers fighting mostly adult villains. Even the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, the supposedly supervillainous teenagers, ended up rebelling against their evil adult teammates. Of the major characters, Professor X was the only good grown-up of the bunch. The others were either evil villains or bigots.
@227060 They were, but remember that Claremont also introduced the New Mutants. That said, I don't think all of the X-Writers really caught onto the "kids versus adults" metaphor; not even Stan himself, as he says in the video. Still, it's a pretty valid take. If you think about it, it's just an extension of the familiar argument that mutants are a metaphor for adolescence.
He said he looked at the divide between mutants and humans as like children versus parents, the old generation versus the new. But Stanley wouldn't tell Morrison he was right.
grant looks like professor x..
docmephesto 4 weeks ago 3
@docmephesto
haha, yeah
speedsurfer123 2 weeks ago
The accent combined with the terrible sound quality makes him REALLY hard to understand.
DIEGhostfish 3 months ago 2
how ironic, Grant Morrison bigging up youth rebellion while simultaneously hoping and expecting validation from a man of his father's generation...
...in fact, the father rebels against the son
...or the (morri)son
natmanprime 5 months ago
Haha, Stan Lee is like the Dad of comics.
Distortion0 6 months ago
THE WORLDS STRANGEST TEENAGERS: the X-MEN
J5MARLON 6 months ago
Look guys superheroes are mdoern myths and can thus be interpreted in a variety of different ways. I imagine Lee and Kirby were influenced by racism (Civil Rights Black power, I have a dream, which was delivered months prior to X-Men's first publication), the counter culture of young against the old and general adolecence all at the same time
227060 8 months ago
Love them both.
jackwearing 8 months ago
mr morrison for the concept of mutant town or culture: good idea it is a great dvlpt
for the characterization & logic of stories : srsly read the 90's x-men or discuss about how the characters were or act with nicieza or lobdell
your concepts were great but your execution was awful thus it shot the x-men franchise in the groin
saidi7975 1 year ago
@saidi7975 yes thank u, his run is the ONLY X-Men run ive read from start to finish and iv read random 90s, 80s, 70s and even 60s stories and felt them ALL superior. for starters they all had actual battle scenes AND characterisation. remember when Iceman had that hang up about his lack of potential after Emma Frost took over his mind and used his powers bttr than he did. THAT came up in fights, characterisation AND action simultaniously.
227060 8 months ago
@227060 New X-Men did have action and characterization going on simultaneously, though. Remember when Cyclops fought Magneto/Xorn in #150? That was more than just a fight scene: that was Cyclops taking out all of his frustrations, starting with his failed relationships and ending with Xorn's betrayal, on Magnus.
Gokitalo 8 months ago
@Gokitalo yes but the fight itself wasn't as entertaining.
227060 8 months ago
Generation Rex
FonedykSosajedi 1 year ago
He's comparing racism to adolescent angst?
LordBifford 1 year ago
@LordBifford Not racism: the X-Men. Think about it; the original stories featured five teenagers fighting mostly adult villains. Even the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, the supposedly supervillainous teenagers, ended up rebelling against their evil adult teammates. Of the major characters, Professor X was the only good grown-up of the bunch. The others were either evil villains or bigots.
I'd say Grant was onto something there.
Gokitalo 1 year ago 12
@Gokitalo wait a minute weren't most of the "all new X-men" under Claremont adults?
227060 8 months ago
@227060 They were, but remember that Claremont also introduced the New Mutants. That said, I don't think all of the X-Writers really caught onto the "kids versus adults" metaphor; not even Stan himself, as he says in the video. Still, it's a pretty valid take. If you think about it, it's just an extension of the familiar argument that mutants are a metaphor for adolescence.
Gokitalo 8 months ago 2
Huh?
byronicflare 3 years ago
He said he looked at the divide between mutants and humans as like children versus parents, the old generation versus the new. But Stanley wouldn't tell Morrison he was right.
Kogerii 2 years ago 9
@Kogerii
Correct .. And kind of an awesome observation.
dingpong2000 1 year ago