We are Stupid. We want the thing that run on Oil. So the fortunate few will give you oil @ any price. And we All rush to buy it. ,', We Buy, Buy, Buy, they Sell, Sell, Sell, Price Rise, Rise, Rise, Yet We Buy, Buy, Buy, Buy. So the fortunate few get the oil buy Any Means Necessary, to Sell, Sell, Sell. Only Answer is to STOP the DEMAND for using so much oil, So there is less FIGHT FOR OIL FUEL around the World.
@canadastreetmedia ...."has lots of oil".... That's such a VAGUE and RELATIVE Term "lots".....you need to educate yourself by doing some number crunching rather than just being some Parrot (they're not very intelligent creatures).
One way I prepared for peak oil was converting my home to a net-zero solar powered home that uses no oil or gas..I made a video about it called, "Preparing for Peak Oil"....
Most countries are past their oil peak including the U.S. (1971)...it's just a matter of time before the global oil production peak destroys growth based economies and our high standard of living....I've been preparing for several years and made a film about what I did called, "Preparing for Peak Oil"....
The "tanker full of oil" at sea is because that's what happens when demand suddenly turns off, while supply is still pumping out....
Don't make the mistake of confusing that with the kind of surplus we would like to have (the kind that drives Housing prices and Markets to new all-time highs....and everybody is stinkin' rich).
Congressman Paul is right on many things, esp on the case of FED, but im with Congressman Bartlett on the peak oil issue. Oil runs out and the investments into other technologies are behind the times.
Were running out of oil. Were running out of natural gas. Were running out of corn. Were running out of food and water. Liars. It is price manipulation. The only thing that is running out is money in the middle class thanks to the greedy assholes.
Well, the only problem with your hypothesis is that the "ruling clsss" would suffer as well in a Capitalist Society where the Middle Class is destroyed....The money of the ruling class has to be spent on something, it's not just buried in the backyard (earned and buried)! And for the ruling class, falling out of Capitalism is a lower form of Society, hence they suffer "Quality of Life" issues, as well. We are simply over-populated for the amount of natural resources. Oil has Peaked! EOF!
So if a rise of prices is just the whim of "greedy assholes," does that mean when prices go down that prices of the result of greedy assholes growing a heart?
no that just means that govts are manipulating the price to keep civil wars from happening.
Energy = wealth
Cheep energy = exponential wealth
You can print fiat based Money as much as you want and even call it what you want, Energy = the only possibility of wealth and is therefore the real and actual global currency.
The money system is based on infinite growth and has reached it limits by crossing the finite fossil energy base. This will have to change or it GAME OVER
There is enough energy out there, but not if it's based on fossil or nuclear finite findings.
liquid fuels will have to be phased out within our life time or we will go down as a civilisation with mass depopulation caused through all the evil things you don't want to know about. The debt base monetary system is not helping us, it's slowing us down and accelerating the peak oil problem.
When a large world power invades a sovereign country in order to control the flow of oil, well, that's the sort of storyline that normally brings hundreds of thousands of protesters to the streets chanting "No Blood for Oil."
But will we be seeying the masses of the world rise up and condemn Russia for its naked aggression against its smaller neighbor, Georgia? I'll be waiting, but I won't be holding my breath.
about the same amount of people that rose while Afghanistan was invaded ..... both are energy transit countries for locked land based hydro-carbons .....basic geopolitics ...... forget terrorism it's goody bady propaganda for fucktarded and pointed headed state-lovers
Eh? USA in Iraq? Georgia is actually Putin being annoyed that USA is funding oponents on his own borders. What would the US do if Russia funded and armed drug lords in Mexico?
There are 3 times the reserves of Saudi Arabia in American Oil shale. This is a KNOWN fact. Its very irresponsible for everyone to keep crapping his or her pants. Yes, we need to get off oil, but in the mean time, there is known to be A HELL OF A LOT on our own soil. Yes, it will take time to set up the extraction infrastructure - but we need to do it, and while we are using this oil, keep developing other energy sources. I hope wind power gets big
America isn't it time for a war. That will solve everything for you. Demand will go down after you drop a few nuclear weapons all your problems will be solved
almost a year since I posted this video, and today IRAN fired some test missles to send message to the WEST and in defiance of HJR 362. Yes....looks a great time to drop some special presents in this world ("the horror").
Maybe long term US strategy is simply to dominate oil producing countries militarily, at any cost, while consuming world supply as fast as possible, so that the world's reserves will be exhausted before any oil rich country, say Russia, for example, gets the chance to make a bid for world domination. Only when the oil is gone would they convert to alternative fuels. A high risk strategy, a race against time, but it would make sense out what otherwise seems a totally irrational energy policy.
Funkyfresh, you are more right than wrong. US strategy is to assure secure access to "cheap" oil at almost any cost. The military is the primary tool of that policy. And with the libs in US refusing us access to domestic resources, we send our soldiers, saliors and airmen to hostile places overseas.
I believe that only now some of us may finally be beginning to see the problem from Bush's perspective.
History will likely be kind to Bush for what he has and will have done for America; such as avoiding a disastrous tumble of US$ from world dominion of money markets, saved millions of jobs, removed a dictator and put the fear of Bush in others, magnified American pride and expanded the military might of US of A.
Coming: NAU, Atlantic Alliance, Pacific Alliance and a Global NWO Empire
LOL...yeah, freakin' Obama is gonna screw it up even worse! Stupid American Sheeple fell for socialism instead of Individualism/Libertarianism, the basis of our otherwise (meaning constitutional roots) nation! Aloha, UnderseaCaveman
When Oil flow affects banking, then we have proof..... "Nature" or "They"...... The bankster don't like it when they ain't makin' money, and they rule the world (the lender always does). However, the bankster made a huge strategic mistake 80 years ago...they didn't consider "Peak Oil:imposed by Nature"... It's real, as real and natural and unstoppable as an earthquake, tsunami or hurricane! Wake up!
ther r too many issues and too complex to discuss here in word limit. U beleive the lies that the supply is short thats up to u. I do beleive nature has a limited supply sure but not at this point. I also beleive that we abuse nature etc. BUT the CRISIS is MAN MADE u shuld WAKE UP!
Like I said, it this point neither of us can prove whether it's a Real or Artificial shortage..... I am telling you what the Litmus test is: When the banks suffer!
Who new the world would end like this. All those science fiction novels predicting a glorius future. If we dont find a new energy source we will backwards not forwards.
Ethanol? Lol! R. Paul: Maintaining growth is impossible in a finite environment. And growth is what the economy is relying upon. Forget about machinery, fertilizers, roads, clothing and globalism. The time when we will have to grow our own food in the backyard is in just 5 years in the future. 5 years in global context means NOW! Forget about technology. Technology isn't magic. It can't surpass the law of physics and arithmetics. Enjoy - and have a nice day!
You have to be able to distinguish between an illustrative example and policy. Ron Paul believes in the so-called "Invisible Hand" (of the market), which a natural market mechanism...in fact the only natural one. Perhaps your english is poor, and you should read the interview at 321Gold with Taylor.
I have tried talking to all kinds of people on subject, and most just sort of give me a "Disney Smile" and a "I am stuck in the headlights" Stare! It's amazing!
Ron Paul is at least partially right when you consider how relatively painlessly we have coped with prices to date.
Oh there has been pain, but no riots no mile long ques.
But how does the free market solve the huge comming problem if we keep denying it exists. Boone Pickens wind farms will make a fortune, Shi Zhengrong will make a fortune from solar cells, but you and I will pay and pay.
Buy a Bicycle? Sorry, the waiting list is 4 months!
Well, ultimately there's not enough time to bring on all the 100's of alternatives sources to make up for the 4.97 GigaWatts of power provided every second globally by liquid fuel.
If Ray Kurzweil's Law of accelerating returns holds up with respect to nanotechnology in solar panels, we will need less than 65k^2 miles, and it will be soon
coal reserves are over estimated look up articles on coal on globalpublicmediadotcom .
very likely we will try coal to make oil but it wont work for one thing peaks about hitting now and we dont have the infrastructure in place , apart from that its not a long term solution .
The answer is radical change in the way we live to a low energy local lifestyle , that uses far less resources
Yeah, what the hell do the South African know anyway...other than how to squeeze coal through gas lines?
I never made that assertion that the conversion is efficient--my point is merely that it is possible and, consequently, there is no looming liquid fuels crisis in the short- to medium-term.
Cost Crisis, Dude! Cost to make liquid fuel, that's the whole driver anyway...The moon could be one giant Oil Blob, and it wouldn't do us any good...hope that sheds more light on equation!
I'm sorry to crush your delightful Olduvai-esque world view, but, yes, F-T is now a profitable way of producing liquid fuels. Since such facilities require sizable capital investments to start, and due to burdensome regulations, and because oil has only very recently become expensive enough for F-T to be profitable, you don't see very much of it yet.
See, for example, the following for numerous links to further information:
You couldn't crush a blade of weed in my world....now besides that.... I'll be the first one investing in an F-T startup, in the mean time...better understand the world we are living in. It's like getting air after drowning, doesn't do much good!
Can we build the Nuc/Alt energy production infrastructure in that time to substitute for dwindling Oil Supply against rocketing Demand (needed to expand business revenues to meet future obligations/loans/fractional reserves)?
There's a huge difference between "in-place reserve" and "extracted reserve"....
By the time, a barrel of Oil is "squeezed out of the rock" you used a barrel and half.....that's called a "negative energy returns"!
(you're not an engineer...please consult with an engineer regarding viability before you invest...just a hint from an mechanical engineer)! Cheers, USCM
20 years ago, Cornucopian Peak Oil Deniers promised me that alternatives would spring up if oil hit $14/barrel. 10 years ago they said oil would become obsolete at $20/barrel.
Since the 1970s, the solution has always been in the future. It is still in the future.
It's obvious you haven't conducted any sort of research. Do you know how much agriculture relies on oil? Fertilizers, Pesticides and Herbicides? Global food production will be slashed by over 1/5 if were lucky, and by then most people would -much- rather have the food than fuel.
Petro is finite...Lindsey doesn't do math, and could easily be "set up" (to calm people like you, the mass).
My advice..."Hope for the best, prepare for the worst"... and do more research, you need to keep an open mind, not just find answers that make you feel comfortable!
I beleive the exercise of conserving petrol is LONG OVERDUE and that the peak oil myth will acheive this. So it's a good thing.
The most open minded person will observe that matter is just energy and then ask who is suppressing the info on its conversion. There are several good videos on cold fusion that are worth watching.
So imagine the day when oil is obsolete and we are zipping around on a cushion of cold fusion. Sounds far-fetched, but so did the fax machine.
Also, I'm a bit tired of fear mongers. It NEVER sits well with me. Never resonates.
Living in fear is simply lack of faith.
And, have you noticed that the terrorists (whether Christian, Jewish or Muslim) ALWAYS self destruct? Negative forces cannot sustain themselves because they are sustained from good. And when they see that they have an element of good within themselves (their soul), they self-destruct.
Myth, meaning that we are trusting the oil companies, gov't and world bank for info when they are clearly at a conflict of interest. It is in their interest to create a shortage.
If the world bank or IMF dictates the price that OPEC charges, then do you think they will turn around and provide accurate reserve data?
I think the next worst thing to fear would be for the oil prices to come way down, that is when the shit hits the fan.The consequence will be a lack of investment in finding/extracting new oil, and turn the gentle sloping down plateau of oil production into a radical cliff with all the worst peak oil scenarios coming closer to reality.
Watch and Learn, thats all the Peakers will ever say. 30 years from now, some 20 year old kid will be saying the same thing becuase he read some essay on Peak Oil....just wait guys, its coming!!!
Another Ron Paul peak oil video. Nothing ne here. Instead of using our power to try and mitigate the coming crisis, lets withdraw from the world and power down the Military. On the eve of the biggest Resource War/Civilization Clash the world has ever seen. Brilliant guys, just effing brilliant
hahaa....do you understand EXPONENTIAL GROWTH due to steady growth rates? Putin and Chavez have something today....but their oil provinces don't even stack up to One Ghawar (the world's largest single Oil field), and Ghawar is reportedly at the tipping-point, which signals "Peak Oil has arrived". Wait, watch and learn!!!! and then run like hell.
Well, there are very few that would actually benefit positively from Peak Oil. Many will not know when to reverse their Oil Longs to shorts (financial leverage). Middle East may own the oil, but seems Guns hold more leverage. I would think Peak Oil makes for a very very dangerous financial and Political Lever, I wonder what "leverage" you have in mind? I am guessing political (international sellers over buyers).
Guess what? At the Peak of Oil Production, we are "swimming in OIL"....that's why it's called "Peak"... which always, always, always gives everyone the illusion that there is "alot of OIL".
we have always been swimming in oil, supply exceedes demand except for periods of manufactured scarcity. Short periods of decrease in supply translates to huge profits, especially if the supply shortage is due to a competing company going out of business(Iraq).
huge profits=volume in sales times price. So, either component is a profit factor. Prior to peaking, no single entity could manufacture a shortage, other competitative players would just step in to fill void. After peak, who knows? We have never been there!
"Controlling" oil supply is really "matching oil supply to anticipated demand". Think about the difficulty of storing Oil above ground. We use 85 Million Barrels daily, or 1 Billion Barrels every 11 Days.
"do you understand EXPONENTIAL GROWTH due to steady growth rates" no explain.
Chavez reportedly has the largest oil reserves in the world. Saudi Aramco states that ghawar has more than 71 billion barrels of proven reserves remaining, producing 5m barrels a day(6,25%) of world production.
71 Billlion sounds like impressive reserves (6%), yet we use 1 Billion every 11 days...and demand grows while new discoveries dwindled (for more than 20 years now). There's some excellent google videos in subject "steady growth rates lead to exponential growth" (compounding).
'conventional' peak oil happened in 05. And it's going into decline right now. We'll be 5-10 million barrels a day short by 2010. That's 200+ dollars a barrel, folks.
Even if the "Peak Oil" theory is correct (probably not as they keep pushing the date back), left to itself, the market will take care of the problem as painlessly as possible. However the govt would probably step in to manage the problem and result in immense suffering.
In any case, I think "peak oil" is crap, not because of the predicted lessening supply of oil, but rather because it is based on economic fallacies.
What are the geologic fallacies of Peak Oil? Nature does not care for any economic model!
No, you have a long ways to go to understand Peak Oil. The Peak Oil year has not been continuously shifting, but rather individual provinces have peaked at various times of Petro-History.
But, I realize you won't go back and re-investigate, but rather be satisfied with your own present failed understanding. Sorry to hear that.
"Peak Oil" is usually presented in much the same manor as global warming, an inevitable doomsday holocaust that will end modern civilization.
I have no problem with "Peak Oil" in so far as the supply of oil is going down while the demand for energy is going up. This will cause the price of oil to go up, making innovation and alternative energy sources more lucrative.
Correct, it will make innovation and alternative energy sources more lucrative. I happen to be an engineer in alternative energy, and know that alternatives can not, will not add up to the power density of petroleum.
The only possible source that can cure permanently is "Fusion", and that is not likely to happen in the next 50 or 100 years, guareentied!
It's a doomsday in the same manner as being dropped off on top of Mount Everest is a doomsday...plenty of air, but no time to acclaimate, just not enough to support human live used to 21% O2 levels, therefore suffocate. Sorry, kinda of an obtuse angle, example.
"Peak Oil" is already "doomsday holocaust" in Dafur and IRAQ, it's spelling serious trouble with 3 carriers off Iran....and we are just getting to the Peak now. What's it gonna be like when Tomorrow there is less than Today...when, the lowest bidder doesn't get their "must have commodity", who starves (food is oil)? Eventually, only the highest bidder gets their oil...$350/bbl or something like that.
Well it's nice to find out that you are an engineer and you "know" that alternative energy sources "can not" match the energy of oil. What a load of crap. There are plenty energy sources around waiting to be developed and exploited. But go about as chicken little, and you will see in 20 years that the sky has not yet fallen.
There IS a lot of oil left, the question is supply and demand, and the tampered US oil prices.
I live in norway, here we don't subsidice oil, we rather tax it. We have a huge % of our energysupply comming from renewable sources (like water). If you think your gasolineprice is high, ATM we are paying about 2$ for 1 liter. 3.79 liter = 1 gallon...
VOTE RON PAUL, he understands ALL of the issues, and speaks the truth about all of them.
One of my favorite "Peak Oil" documentaries is from Norwegian Film Producer Amund Prestegard..."Peak Oil: Imposed by Nature". Understand Norway has peaked in production!
At peak we have "half-the-amount of oil remaining that was used"...but that does not represent a 100 year supply (the 1st half used up over a ~100 year period). Demand doubles every 14 yrs.
when this water is created into H2 O2 H2 by electrolsis. When its burned its creats back into Water! and does very little impact to anything or anyone.
Don't ignore the 2nd law of Thermo.... where is the net energy derived in this hypothetical "Water Battery"... Sorry, another perpetual motion machine fantasy!
What you think the Sun runs on? Its not Nothing! Mostly Hydrogen where does it get that Hydrogen! It has to be made from something! I say water still our best bet in getting anything and the Earth has plenty! I know the koreans as well as China is creating Water to Hydrogen based cars! Time will Tell. Who ever thought the telegraph would turn into this great thing, called the Internet today!
HHO is currently be used by some as the sole fuel for their vehicle's. Also, the myth of perpetual motion electric motors/generators also now exists. You can find both here on youtube as well. It is very very well documented. Some of the people say if you don't believe, come over and I'll prove it.
What they forget to tell you. Water that is all around us can be Used to Create Great amounts of energy over oil! look into Browns Gas. Sad thing this energy out of water take no more power then what a car batter holds to create! They hide it from us cause it would destroy the Oil Industry!
Right, there's alot of OIL left, and there is even way way more demand to come. Peak Oil is inevitable, and the signs are here now! We should be at a plateau for a few years (since peak started this year), by 2010, we start on the downslope and that's when all hell brakes loose.
"alot"... maybe 30 years total, maybe. That supply will be being extracted at a slower and slower rate too. And then all recoverable oil on Earth is gone FOREVER. Consider also that consumption is accelerating. The time will definately come when we cannot use oil to power our lives because the oil simply won't be there.
Unlike the pressures on an individual Oil Province to cut production due to competing Provinces...when all are in decline, simply more "super-straws" are to be applied...thereby contracting total supply to further satiate present and near future demand. Then it's gone for ever!
We are Stupid. We want the thing that run on Oil. So the fortunate few will give you oil @ any price. And we All rush to buy it. ,', We Buy, Buy, Buy, they Sell, Sell, Sell, Price Rise, Rise, Rise, Yet We Buy, Buy, Buy, Buy. So the fortunate few get the oil buy Any Means Necessary, to Sell, Sell, Sell. Only Answer is to STOP the DEMAND for using so much oil, So there is less FIGHT FOR OIL FUEL around the World.
Cecelle8910 1 year ago
@Cecelle8910 so true, so sad........next 20 to 30 years are not going to very fun or happy!!
UnderseaCaveman 11 months ago
CANADA HAS LOTS OF OIL ,for sale cheap to the usa...
this is bullshit.
canadastreetmedia 1 year ago
@canadastreetmedia ...."has lots of oil".... That's such a VAGUE and RELATIVE Term "lots".....you need to educate yourself by doing some number crunching rather than just being some Parrot (they're not very intelligent creatures).
UnderseaCaveman 1 year ago
One way I prepared for peak oil was converting my home to a net-zero solar powered home that uses no oil or gas..I made a video about it called, "Preparing for Peak Oil"....
MrEnergyCzar 1 year ago
Most countries are past their oil peak including the U.S. (1971)...it's just a matter of time before the global oil production peak destroys growth based economies and our high standard of living....I've been preparing for several years and made a film about what I did called, "Preparing for Peak Oil"....
MrEnergyCzar 1 year ago
We have plenty oil. They are having to store it in tankers on the sea. Plenty OIL!!
Stan1208 2 years ago
Stan,
The "tanker full of oil" at sea is because that's what happens when demand suddenly turns off, while supply is still pumping out....
Don't make the mistake of confusing that with the kind of surplus we would like to have (the kind that drives Housing prices and Markets to new all-time highs....and everybody is stinkin' rich).
"Plenty" is a relative term!!!
UnderseaCaveman 2 years ago
Congressman Paul is right on many things, esp on the case of FED, but im with Congressman Bartlett on the peak oil issue. Oil runs out and the investments into other technologies are behind the times.
bocckoka 2 years ago
safe caveman big video as usual yeah people need to stop being wastemen and take some responsiblilty, but they won't until its too late
acandterra 2 years ago
I agree with you, avionicswirenut; such manipulation going on, and pure greedy mind f**k.
roxabeau 3 years ago
Were running out of oil. Were running out of natural gas. Were running out of corn. Were running out of food and water. Liars. It is price manipulation. The only thing that is running out is money in the middle class thanks to the greedy assholes.
avionicswirenut 3 years ago
Well, the only problem with your hypothesis is that the "ruling clsss" would suffer as well in a Capitalist Society where the Middle Class is destroyed....The money of the ruling class has to be spent on something, it's not just buried in the backyard (earned and buried)! And for the ruling class, falling out of Capitalism is a lower form of Society, hence they suffer "Quality of Life" issues, as well. We are simply over-populated for the amount of natural resources. Oil has Peaked! EOF!
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
So if a rise of prices is just the whim of "greedy assholes," does that mean when prices go down that prices of the result of greedy assholes growing a heart?
JohnnyOU08 3 years ago
no that just means that govts are manipulating the price to keep civil wars from happening.
Energy = wealth
Cheep energy = exponential wealth
You can print fiat based Money as much as you want and even call it what you want, Energy = the only possibility of wealth and is therefore the real and actual global currency.
The money system is based on infinite growth and has reached it limits by crossing the finite fossil energy base. This will have to change or it GAME OVER
SCTV 3 years ago
There is enough energy out there, but not if it's based on fossil or nuclear finite findings.
liquid fuels will have to be phased out within our life time or we will go down as a civilisation with mass depopulation caused through all the evil things you don't want to know about. The debt base monetary system is not helping us, it's slowing us down and accelerating the peak oil problem.
SCTV 3 years ago
SCTV,
Mahalo for your wise input....totally appreciated! Aloha, USCVM (couldn't have said it better myself)
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
When a large world power invades a sovereign country in order to control the flow of oil, well, that's the sort of storyline that normally brings hundreds of thousands of protesters to the streets chanting "No Blood for Oil."
But will we be seeying the masses of the world rise up and condemn Russia for its naked aggression against its smaller neighbor, Georgia? I'll be waiting, but I won't be holding my breath.
riflekid44 3 years ago
about the same amount of people that rose while Afghanistan was invaded ..... both are energy transit countries for locked land based hydro-carbons .....basic geopolitics ...... forget terrorism it's goody bady propaganda for fucktarded and pointed headed state-lovers
LastReplaySC 3 years ago
@riflekid44
Eh? USA in Iraq? Georgia is actually Putin being annoyed that USA is funding oponents on his own borders. What would the US do if Russia funded and armed drug lords in Mexico?
52111centrumcz 7 months ago
See video by Lindsey Williams "The Non-Energy Crisis". (See the book too)
1 Alaska has a 200 year supply of Oil.
2 Oil companies knew this before 1980.
3 Larger Oil Fields are in Colorado and S.D.
4 Alaskan Oil was hit 45,000+ feet.
5 Bio-matter stops at 18,000 feet.
6 How can Oil go through 25,000+ feet of rock?
7 Experts now say Oil is a renewable resource coming from the Lava Core of the earth.
Should a government trying to protect us seek imminent domain over the oil reserves?
CaJeffO 3 years ago
Alaska is like the German dream of V2 winning the war for Hitler.
It would only supply oil for US need's 37 years and global supply for 3,7 years not 200 years... it's time to snap out of that dream bubble.
SCTV 3 years ago 3
@SCTV EXACTLY......best comment!!!
People have a really hard time grasping this, eventhough its simple algebra.....well, the freakin' media doesn't help either... Aloha
UnderseaCaveman 1 year ago
There are 3 times the reserves of Saudi Arabia in American Oil shale. This is a KNOWN fact. Its very irresponsible for everyone to keep crapping his or her pants. Yes, we need to get off oil, but in the mean time, there is known to be A HELL OF A LOT on our own soil. Yes, it will take time to set up the extraction infrastructure - but we need to do it, and while we are using this oil, keep developing other energy sources. I hope wind power gets big
NJRJC 3 years ago
Learn about EROI and then check your facts about real energy reserves.
BrightHumanist 3 years ago
America isn't it time for a war. That will solve everything for you. Demand will go down after you drop a few nuclear weapons all your problems will be solved
Sprawl001 3 years ago
almost a year since I posted this video, and today IRAN fired some test missles to send message to the WEST and in defiance of HJR 362. Yes....looks a great time to drop some special presents in this world ("the horror").
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
Maybe long term US strategy is simply to dominate oil producing countries militarily, at any cost, while consuming world supply as fast as possible, so that the world's reserves will be exhausted before any oil rich country, say Russia, for example, gets the chance to make a bid for world domination. Only when the oil is gone would they convert to alternative fuels. A high risk strategy, a race against time, but it would make sense out what otherwise seems a totally irrational energy policy.
funkyfreshpnoy 3 years ago
Funkyfresh, you are more right than wrong. US strategy is to assure secure access to "cheap" oil at almost any cost. The military is the primary tool of that policy. And with the libs in US refusing us access to domestic resources, we send our soldiers, saliors and airmen to hostile places overseas.
Granite46 3 years ago
I believe that only now some of us may finally be beginning to see the problem from Bush's perspective.
History will likely be kind to Bush for what he has and will have done for America; such as avoiding a disastrous tumble of US$ from world dominion of money markets, saved millions of jobs, removed a dictator and put the fear of Bush in others, magnified American pride and expanded the military might of US of A.
Coming: NAU, Atlantic Alliance, Pacific Alliance and a Global NWO Empire
CommanderUTube 3 years ago
Blame it all on Bush? Well, your idiot, Obama, is gonna have a crack at it. Lets see what he can do.
Stan1208 3 years ago
Stan1208,
LOL...yeah, freakin' Obama is gonna screw it up even worse! Stupid American Sheeple fell for socialism instead of Individualism/Libertarianism, the basis of our otherwise (meaning constitutional roots) nation! Aloha, UnderseaCaveman
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
oil crisis my ASS. they just slow/stop the supply for their sick little games.
We could have had free energy since 1901 and these criminals we call governemnt know it.
Badwolf182 3 years ago
When Oil flow affects banking, then we have proof..... "Nature" or "They"...... The bankster don't like it when they ain't makin' money, and they rule the world (the lender always does). However, the bankster made a huge strategic mistake 80 years ago...they didn't consider "Peak Oil:imposed by Nature"... It's real, as real and natural and unstoppable as an earthquake, tsunami or hurricane! Wake up!
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
ther r too many issues and too complex to discuss here in word limit. U beleive the lies that the supply is short thats up to u. I do beleive nature has a limited supply sure but not at this point. I also beleive that we abuse nature etc. BUT the CRISIS is MAN MADE u shuld WAKE UP!
Badwolf182 3 years ago
Like I said, it this point neither of us can prove whether it's a Real or Artificial shortage..... I am telling you what the Litmus test is: When the banks suffer!
I am going to sleep now!
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
there are many new fuels out there,the powers at be wont allow them to be used,you got to ask yourself why?
jamierourketen 3 years ago
Who new the world would end like this. All those science fiction novels predicting a glorius future. If we dont find a new energy source we will backwards not forwards.
Maccastreisfan 3 years ago
Ethanol? Lol! R. Paul: Maintaining growth is impossible in a finite environment. And growth is what the economy is relying upon. Forget about machinery, fertilizers, roads, clothing and globalism. The time when we will have to grow our own food in the backyard is in just 5 years in the future. 5 years in global context means NOW! Forget about technology. Technology isn't magic. It can't surpass the law of physics and arithmetics. Enjoy - and have a nice day!
WolYou 3 years ago
You have to be able to distinguish between an illustrative example and policy. Ron Paul believes in the so-called "Invisible Hand" (of the market), which a natural market mechanism...in fact the only natural one. Perhaps your english is poor, and you should read the interview at 321Gold with Taylor.
Aloha!
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
Looks so much worse today than when you posted the video, yet people still refuse to believe.
776281 3 years ago
776281,
Oh yeah, you're right....it is worse now!
I have tried talking to all kinds of people on subject, and most just sort of give me a "Disney Smile" and a "I am stuck in the headlights" Stare! It's amazing!
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
Ron Paul is at least partially right when you consider how relatively painlessly we have coped with prices to date.
Oh there has been pain, but no riots no mile long ques.
But how does the free market solve the huge comming problem if we keep denying it exists. Boone Pickens wind farms will make a fortune, Shi Zhengrong will make a fortune from solar cells, but you and I will pay and pay.
Catch the Bus? Sorry bus full.
776281 3 years ago
Buy a Bicycle? Sorry, the waiting list is 4 months!
Well, ultimately there's not enough time to bring on all the 100's of alternatives sources to make up for the 4.97 GigaWatts of power provided every second globally by liquid fuel.
Need 65,000 square miles of solar panels.
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
Tangent(sort of):
If Ray Kurzweil's Law of accelerating returns holds up with respect to nanotechnology in solar panels, we will need less than 65k^2 miles, and it will be soon
danbo88 3 years ago
65k^2 worth of panel...how much sand is that, how much labor is that (transport, install, maintain), how much money is that?
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
This.
We'd need 9.1 million solar panels produced per year for 50 years just to get the energy that the world used from oil in 2006.
Golgo13ThePro 3 years ago
coal reserves are over estimated look up articles on coal on globalpublicmediadotcom .
very likely we will try coal to make oil but it wont work for one thing peaks about hitting now and we dont have the infrastructure in place , apart from that its not a long term solution .
The answer is radical change in the way we live to a low energy local lifestyle , that uses far less resources
thanks for posting underseacaveman
bearsagainstevil 3 years ago
Bearsagainstevil,
Thanks for your excellent, insightful comment!
You are right on the money.
Aloha, USCVM
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
coal would not last long after oil is short, same with uranium.
Stafroty 3 years ago
Coal, dude.
161803 3 years ago
Coal has a hard time squeezing thru gas lines and carburator valves....
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
Fischer-Tropsch synthesis, dude.
161803 3 years ago
EROEI, dude?
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
Yeah, what the hell do the South African know anyway...other than how to squeeze coal through gas lines?
I never made that assertion that the conversion is efficient--my point is merely that it is possible and, consequently, there is no looming liquid fuels crisis in the short- to medium-term.
161803 3 years ago
Cost Crisis, Dude! Cost to make liquid fuel, that's the whole driver anyway...The moon could be one giant Oil Blob, and it wouldn't do us any good...hope that sheds more light on equation!
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
161803,
You wrote "$50/bbl diesel via coal" (upon responding it deleted ...sorry, didn't mean to).
Dude, if you can make $50/bbl diesel from coal, you own the liquid fuel market, period....why aren't investors crawling up your back to execute plan?
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
I'm sorry to crush your delightful Olduvai-esque world view, but, yes, F-T is now a profitable way of producing liquid fuels. Since such facilities require sizable capital investments to start, and due to burdensome regulations, and because oil has only very recently become expensive enough for F-T to be profitable, you don't see very much of it yet.
See, for example, the following for numerous links to further information:
tinyurl[dot]com[slash]4l4dfn
161803 3 years ago
161803,
You couldn't crush a blade of weed in my world....now besides that.... I'll be the first one investing in an F-T startup, in the mean time...better understand the world we are living in. It's like getting air after drowning, doesn't do much good!
Aloha, USCVM
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
Man, whatever, you Ron Paul fanboys are so weird.
161803 3 years ago
nuclear?? maybe we can store the radioactive waste in your backyard??
NWOkillininthenameof 4 years ago
Oil expensive supports nuclear and alternative energies.
daltonagre 4 years ago
Oil demand doubles every 14 years!
Can we build the Nuc/Alt energy production infrastructure in that time to substitute for dwindling Oil Supply against rocketing Demand (needed to expand business revenues to meet future obligations/loans/fractional reserves)?
I think not.... crash Imminent!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
Here in Brazil, a brent of ethanol cost just about US$50 to be produced.I'm an agronomist and I know about biofuels.
daltonagre 4 years ago
Biodiesel is nice.... Microalgae produce (apparently) the highest rates of biodiesel!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
eh.....oil shale.... ????
There's a huge difference between "in-place reserve" and "extracted reserve"....
By the time, a barrel of Oil is "squeezed out of the rock" you used a barrel and half.....that's called a "negative energy returns"!
(you're not an engineer...please consult with an engineer regarding viability before you invest...just a hint from an mechanical engineer)! Cheers, USCM
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
20 years ago, Cornucopian Peak Oil Deniers promised me that alternatives would spring up if oil hit $14/barrel. 10 years ago they said oil would become obsolete at $20/barrel.
Since the 1970s, the solution has always been in the future. It is still in the future.
Why isn't the future solving today's problems?
Weaseldog2001 4 years ago
Agriculture is the answer to peak oil.Here in Brazil,a brent of ethanol costs less thanUS$50.
daltonagre 4 years ago
It's obvious you haven't conducted any sort of research. Do you know how much agriculture relies on oil? Fertilizers, Pesticides and Herbicides? Global food production will be slashed by over 1/5 if were lucky, and by then most people would -much- rather have the food than fuel.
Svark001 4 years ago
This is bullshit.
From what I gather the only vunerability in oil supply is the trading currency - the US Dollar.
See "Lindsey Williams The Oil Non-crisis" for the rest of the story.
lostinmaya 4 years ago
lostim..
Petro is finite...Lindsey doesn't do math, and could easily be "set up" (to calm people like you, the mass).
My advice..."Hope for the best, prepare for the worst"... and do more research, you need to keep an open mind, not just find answers that make you feel comfortable!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
I beleive the exercise of conserving petrol is LONG OVERDUE and that the peak oil myth will acheive this. So it's a good thing.
The most open minded person will observe that matter is just energy and then ask who is suppressing the info on its conversion. There are several good videos on cold fusion that are worth watching.
So imagine the day when oil is obsolete and we are zipping around on a cushion of cold fusion. Sounds far-fetched, but so did the fax machine.
lostinmaya 4 years ago
Research your shit. Cold fusion isn't possible.
Svark001 4 years ago
Also, I'm a bit tired of fear mongers. It NEVER sits well with me. Never resonates.
Living in fear is simply lack of faith.
And, have you noticed that the terrorists (whether Christian, Jewish or Muslim) ALWAYS self destruct? Negative forces cannot sustain themselves because they are sustained from good. And when they see that they have an element of good within themselves (their soul), they self-destruct.
The best defense is love.
lostinmaya 4 years ago
If Petro is finite..... how can "Peak Oil" be a myth?
Given your knowledge in subject, when would you say we have reached the "Half-way Point"?
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
Myth, meaning that we are trusting the oil companies, gov't and world bank for info when they are clearly at a conflict of interest. It is in their interest to create a shortage.
If the world bank or IMF dictates the price that OPEC charges, then do you think they will turn around and provide accurate reserve data?
lostinmaya 4 years ago
How is it in their interest to "create a shortage" that leads to a global economic permanent recession?
How are loans gonna get paid off, if the economies shrink... "Who ends up being the bag-holders of bad debt?"
Show your evidence!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
Remember, if you owe the bank $100,000, you have a problem....
if you owe the bank $100 Million, they have a problem...LOL!!!!
UnderseaCaveman 2 years ago
Pick a faith based solution.
1. Jesus will return and refill the oil fields.
2. Someone in the future will solve the energy crisis, and invent time travel. Then go back in time, and solve our current problems.
3. The mass of oil in the Earth comes from an extra-dimensional pocket, and exceeds the mass of our universe.
Weaseldog2001 4 years ago
I think the next worst thing to fear would be for the oil prices to come way down, that is when the shit hits the fan.The consequence will be a lack of investment in finding/extracting new oil, and turn the gentle sloping down plateau of oil production into a radical cliff with all the worst peak oil scenarios coming closer to reality.
iorr98 4 years ago
Ironically true, additionally, "low" oil prices inhibit marketization/commercialization of alternative energies (price-barriers).
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
A Ron Paul foreign policy, in his own words, would drop the price of oil by $20/barrel.
You tube:
"Ron Paul's First Action as President". v=mgzIWa3P1pU
And back up in:
"Oil resumes torrid ascent" v=_1LB-ZQlU74
Lower gas prices, another reason to vote Ron Paul
gsuitter 4 years ago
Ethanol is not the answer.
alanhowitzer 4 years ago
Watch and Learn, thats all the Peakers will ever say. 30 years from now, some 20 year old kid will be saying the same thing becuase he read some essay on Peak Oil....just wait guys, its coming!!!
HAMJAY10 4 years ago
nah in 30 years from now the 20 year old kid will be wondering why you were so dumb.
bearsagainstevil 4 years ago
Another Ron Paul peak oil video. Nothing ne here. Instead of using our power to try and mitigate the coming crisis, lets withdraw from the world and power down the Military. On the eve of the biggest Resource War/Civilization Clash the world has ever seen. Brilliant guys, just effing brilliant
HAMJAY10 4 years ago
HAMJAY10
Why are we on the "eve of the biggest Resource War....world has ever seen"?
Because lower 48 peaked in 70's, and Alaska/Canada peaked late 90's....so North American Demand has outstripped supply!
And what has happened in North America, Central and South..and the North Sea as well, has just happened in the Middle East.
So what happens when all regions of the world have peaked? Collectively that's Global Peak Oil
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
who cares about peak oil, Paris Hilton is
on Fox News.
mets4885 4 years ago
mets4885,
no....no, it's even better, now Brittany is back on the front page...never mind Oil at $90/bbl
:)
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
Oct20(2007), it's official....now the most important news story is Ellen Degeneres crying over the puppy....
In the meantime, PriceOfOil is heading for $125/bbl and nobody knows why!
Dumb Down America, Dumb Down...the new pain-killer~
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
Did you know Britney Spears lost her kids!! Like zoh my gah....~_~
CodeNameMusic 4 years ago
LOL :)
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
and the putin got nothing? chavez?
get away from me.
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
hahaa....do you understand EXPONENTIAL GROWTH due to steady growth rates? Putin and Chavez have something today....but their oil provinces don't even stack up to One Ghawar (the world's largest single Oil field), and Ghawar is reportedly at the tipping-point, which signals "Peak Oil has arrived". Wait, watch and learn!!!! and then run like hell.
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
you're probably an expert.
just remember that peak oil is also a position of leveredge.
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
Well, there are very few that would actually benefit positively from Peak Oil. Many will not know when to reverse their Oil Longs to shorts (financial leverage). Middle East may own the oil, but seems Guns hold more leverage. I would think Peak Oil makes for a very very dangerous financial and Political Lever, I wonder what "leverage" you have in mind? I am guessing political (international sellers over buyers).
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
It's another sword of Damocles, like the global warming swindle.
Someone or some people are behind this. There is alot of oil, but 'they' need war to really profit.
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
Guess what? At the Peak of Oil Production, we are "swimming in OIL"....that's why it's called "Peak"... which always, always, always gives everyone the illusion that there is "alot of OIL".
that's a relative term..... Watch and Learn!!!
Peak Oil is imposed by Nature, not the Market!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
i just CAN'T imagine that oil is in decline.
and oh yeah, fuck the UN.
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
we have always been swimming in oil, supply exceedes demand except for periods of manufactured scarcity. Short periods of decrease in supply translates to huge profits, especially if the supply shortage is due to a competing company going out of business(Iraq).
truthseeker83 4 years ago
huge profits=volume in sales times price. So, either component is a profit factor. Prior to peaking, no single entity could manufacture a shortage, other competitative players would just step in to fill void. After peak, who knows? We have never been there!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
controlling the oil supply makes for great leverage whether or not peak oil is real.
truthseeker83 4 years ago
"Controlling" oil supply is really "matching oil supply to anticipated demand". Think about the difficulty of storing Oil above ground. We use 85 Million Barrels daily, or 1 Billion Barrels every 11 Days.
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
If you own oil futures, you'll do great.
alanhowitzer 4 years ago
"do you understand EXPONENTIAL GROWTH due to steady growth rates" no explain.
Chavez reportedly has the largest oil reserves in the world. Saudi Aramco states that ghawar has more than 71 billion barrels of proven reserves remaining, producing 5m barrels a day(6,25%) of world production.
truthseeker83 4 years ago
71 Billlion sounds like impressive reserves (6%), yet we use 1 Billion every 11 days...and demand grows while new discoveries dwindled (for more than 20 years now). There's some excellent google videos in subject "steady growth rates lead to exponential growth" (compounding).
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
'conventional' peak oil happened in 05. And it's going into decline right now. We'll be 5-10 million barrels a day short by 2010. That's 200+ dollars a barrel, folks.
msgrade 4 years ago
yep. GET READY.
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
Even if the "Peak Oil" theory is correct (probably not as they keep pushing the date back), left to itself, the market will take care of the problem as painlessly as possible. However the govt would probably step in to manage the problem and result in immense suffering.
In any case, I think "peak oil" is crap, not because of the predicted lessening supply of oil, but rather because it is based on economic fallacies.
sscb1 4 years ago
Uh?
What are the geologic fallacies of Peak Oil? Nature does not care for any economic model!
No, you have a long ways to go to understand Peak Oil. The Peak Oil year has not been continuously shifting, but rather individual provinces have peaked at various times of Petro-History.
But, I realize you won't go back and re-investigate, but rather be satisfied with your own present failed understanding. Sorry to hear that.
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
"Peak Oil" is usually presented in much the same manor as global warming, an inevitable doomsday holocaust that will end modern civilization.
I have no problem with "Peak Oil" in so far as the supply of oil is going down while the demand for energy is going up. This will cause the price of oil to go up, making innovation and alternative energy sources more lucrative.
sscb1 4 years ago
Correct, it will make innovation and alternative energy sources more lucrative. I happen to be an engineer in alternative energy, and know that alternatives can not, will not add up to the power density of petroleum.
The only possible source that can cure permanently is "Fusion", and that is not likely to happen in the next 50 or 100 years, guareentied!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
It's a doomsday in the same manner as being dropped off on top of Mount Everest is a doomsday...plenty of air, but no time to acclaimate, just not enough to support human live used to 21% O2 levels, therefore suffocate. Sorry, kinda of an obtuse angle, example.
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
"Peak Oil" is already "doomsday holocaust" in Dafur and IRAQ, it's spelling serious trouble with 3 carriers off Iran....and we are just getting to the Peak now. What's it gonna be like when Tomorrow there is less than Today...when, the lowest bidder doesn't get their "must have commodity", who starves (food is oil)? Eventually, only the highest bidder gets their oil...$350/bbl or something like that.
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
Well it's nice to find out that you are an engineer and you "know" that alternative energy sources "can not" match the energy of oil. What a load of crap. There are plenty energy sources around waiting to be developed and exploited. But go about as chicken little, and you will see in 20 years that the sky has not yet fallen.
sscb1 4 years ago
"There are plenty of enerty sources...to be developed".
You are so right, 100's ..perhaps 1000's...and like grains of sand, they don't add up to more than a handful!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
every cloud has it's silver lining.
or as a famous dutchman would say: "elk voordeel heb ze nadeel"
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
There IS a lot of oil left, the question is supply and demand, and the tampered US oil prices.
I live in norway, here we don't subsidice oil, we rather tax it. We have a huge % of our energysupply comming from renewable sources (like water). If you think your gasolineprice is high, ATM we are paying about 2$ for 1 liter. 3.79 liter = 1 gallon...
VOTE RON PAUL, he understands ALL of the issues, and speaks the truth about all of them.
gulllars 4 years ago
One of my favorite "Peak Oil" documentaries is from Norwegian Film Producer Amund Prestegard..."Peak Oil: Imposed by Nature". Understand Norway has peaked in production!
At peak we have "half-the-amount of oil remaining that was used"...but that does not represent a 100 year supply (the 1st half used up over a ~100 year period). Demand doubles every 14 yrs.
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
AMEN BROTHER!!!
Katfish1989 4 years ago
Right on, Man, keep working your guitar!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
when this water is created into H2 O2 H2 by electrolsis. When its burned its creats back into Water! and does very little impact to anything or anyone.
Budvb 4 years ago
Budvb,
Don't ignore the 2nd law of Thermo.... where is the net energy derived in this hypothetical "Water Battery"... Sorry, another perpetual motion machine fantasy!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
What you think the Sun runs on? Its not Nothing! Mostly Hydrogen where does it get that Hydrogen! It has to be made from something! I say water still our best bet in getting anything and the Earth has plenty! I know the koreans as well as China is creating Water to Hydrogen based cars! Time will Tell. Who ever thought the telegraph would turn into this great thing, called the Internet today!
Budvb 4 years ago
The Sun runs on Fusion....if Humanity knew how to "Fuse", then we could use even BlueCheese, it doesn't matter.
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
HHO is currently be used by some as the sole fuel for their vehicle's. Also, the myth of perpetual motion electric motors/generators also now exists. You can find both here on youtube as well. It is very very well documented. Some of the people say if you don't believe, come over and I'll prove it.
b101aa2 4 years ago
What they forget to tell you. Water that is all around us can be Used to Create Great amounts of energy over oil! look into Browns Gas. Sad thing this energy out of water take no more power then what a car batter holds to create! They hide it from us cause it would destroy the Oil Industry!
Budvb 4 years ago
this is bullshit. there is alot of oil left, which for political reasons is not being used.
TheEvilDetector 4 years ago
Right, there's alot of OIL left, and there is even way way more demand to come. Peak Oil is inevitable, and the signs are here now! We should be at a plateau for a few years (since peak started this year), by 2010, we start on the downslope and that's when all hell brakes loose.
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
"alot"... maybe 30 years total, maybe. That supply will be being extracted at a slower and slower rate too. And then all recoverable oil on Earth is gone FOREVER. Consider also that consumption is accelerating. The time will definately come when we cannot use oil to power our lives because the oil simply won't be there.
kevinabt 4 years ago
Consumption=Supply=Extraction!
Unlike the pressures on an individual Oil Province to cut production due to competing Provinces...when all are in decline, simply more "super-straws" are to be applied...thereby contracting total supply to further satiate present and near future demand. Then it's gone for ever!
UnderseaCaveman 4 years ago
google: clobber solar
norbu2006 4 years ago