Kickback Demonstration by Chainsaw Instructor Joe Glenn

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[demilieu]

there is something about lumberjacking that brings out sillyness in people.

[47485ksc]

austinbotter001 has GOT to set the record for stupid comments and child-like typing. And he claims to own a "Tree Company"! Puts the guy down for taking safety measures. No, austinbungler001, you make your living w/trees and cut your own face off while conducting business? Whether it's inbreeding, drugs/alcohol or just plain ignorance, you have to think about what you type before you click on "POST". You pratfall and instead of getting up and moving on, you fall again. Please go away, now. Bye!

[47485ksc]

You idiots who think it's stupid to wear the gear...? And the guy who sawed his face open..? Weird. One comment I have is although he wears all the safety garb, he needs to move the log from behind him. I know he knows it's there, but always keep the area clear. I know a bit. Own/maintain(ed) 7 personal saws, working on small engines since 1973. My career. I get my Madrone firewood delivered by a self loader semi. About 70,000 lbs. a load and cut/split it myself (with a gas splitter, of course)

[bacardipr05]

I need no chain saw karate chop everything...Chop!

[austinbotter001]

Hey jack fucks I own a tree company I've had the blade hit my face it ripped my lips busted my teeth and I drove myself to the hospital dumbass

[austinbotter001]

Why do you have so much stuff on you pussy

[zanuha]

@austinbotter001

Because he's dealing with a razor sharp chain spinning at 45 MPH, you idiot.

[deadlyponiezzzz]

@austinbotter001 I would like to see you have a smug face on when the chain of that saw which the person said goes 45mph hits one of your arms or legs. You'll be screaming before you can even look around and get your barrings anyone will if a chainsaw hits their limbs and blood is squirting out.

[huhhman]

Yeah it's a chainsaw....hold onto it or get a hand saw.

[stillbashingmetal]

Never used a chainsaw, don't ever intend to, but interested in what causes the saw to kick back, though.

If any experienced users could enlighten me, I'd be obliged.Serious question, so no armchair foresters, please. Thank you

[DavidN23Skidoo]

@stillbashingmetal The chain is going around the bar at about 45 MPH, and the teeth bite into whatever they contact. Cutting with the top portion of the bar pushes the saw back to you; cutting with the bottom makes the saw pull away from you. The upper corner of the end of the bar is where kickbacks are made. When the running chain grabs wood on the upper corner, it propels the bar backward in an arc at whatever speed it is running at the moment.

[stillbashingmetal]

@DavidN23Skidoo Hi. Thanks for that. So, are kickbacks a preventable occurence that are a result of poor chainsaw technique, or just something that happens as part of the saws characteristics? Thanks.

[DavidN23Skidoo]

@stillbashingmetal Kickbacks are mostly preventable, but some are going to happen even if you are careful, so keep your face out of the line of fire. Always let go of the throttle before pulling out of a cut you are making with the top if the bar. Many have stuck a saw in their forehead when pulling out of a pinch on the top of the bar. Limbing and cutting firewood out of treetops offer multiple unseen kickback hazards, so you have to pay attention to your cutting every second.

[dougspair]

@stillbashingmetal Well, I'm not an expert like my lumber cutting brother is after 30 years of doing it, but the saw chain is speeding right along. And like driving a car without the seatbelt, by the time you 'THINK' you might be in danger, you're already missing a hand, leg...or dead. The kickback device is to stop the chain like, right now, faster than you can react. But I'm sure now some other posters will make a crack about my comment here. AND..I do own several larger chainsaws.

[craigdge]

Thanks for the demonstration. A chainsaw should always be respected - it is a wonderful tool but can turn on you in an instant if you are not 100% focused and on top of things. It really gets me when I see guys who will drink a few beers then go out and cut wood with a chainsaw.

[Mr13born79]

@craigdge Right on. Or the weekend warrior homeowner that goes up on a ladder to trim some limbs. Yep...leave it for the professionals. Much cheaper in the long run.

[Sunfadedlovejaded]

@craigdge

WOW, your statement can be said also for a penis. Like exactly!

[71powerwagon]

Idiotic moron!

[gf3030]

@rafurocks I have been logging for 30 years now, cut every day with a 26 or 32 inch bar and never use gloves. I can use my fingers just fine.

[Gun4Freedom]

@gf3030 I give you a lot of credit, tree service and logging is high on the list of most dangerous occupations, and you obviously do it well. It would seem to me that some people are bound to have problems with their hands with or without gloves, as arthritis is usually passed on through genetics or triggered from trauma or malnutrition. Thank you for posting your experience to quiet the know it alls and speak of real experience.

[YourFriendlyTroll]

Texas Chainsaw Master knows his safety.

[AlexanderPimm]

thank you for posting about this. a friend of mine had a kick back that he managed to dodge with his head only to lose his balance and have the saw drop into his knee.....he was able to walk again after surgery

[rocdad]

Put the anti-kickback tip back on fool...

[ehsnils]

It was back in the 70's that kickback protection was pretty fresh tech. And chainsaw accidents are way too common. Logging is a dangerous profession, it's not just to go out and hack away. Logging makes motorcycle riding without protection safe.

[rollieroulston]

A lot of people think they can pick up a hatchet, axe or chainsaw and hack away. They are so simple to pick up and start, that few take time to either research the dangers, or how to properly use them. I think that chainsaws and axes being featured in films and games has led to this.

BTW the damaged caused by the vibration of the chainsaw is called hand-arm vibration syndrome. It ain't pretty, but good suspension systems in chainsaws now and regulations on trigger time have reduced new sufferers

[salmojack]

Why didn't the chain brake work?? Don't use or buy this saw!

[ehsnils]

@salmojack It did finally work. But the way he was holding it was the safe way in case it would have failed, but at the same time his arms flexed. He could have done a vertical cut but then he could have gotten the sword in his face - and at a vertical cut the kickback brake would have triggered more easy. And even a stopped chain would cause your face to get ugly.

But it's also important that the kickback protector doesn't engage too easily since that would be severely annoying.

[tufferenhell]

For the person suggesting to do that with a 66 you should know that when a kickback occurs it does not matter the size of the saw because even though the bigger saws have more power they also wiegh more so it takes alot of the bite out of it. Basically any saw big enough to log with on a day to day basis all kick one just as hard as the other. A hard kickback normally throws the saw at roughly 120 miles an hour according to some tests in Sweden. No man anywhere can hold that much force.

[crazy4honda]

@tufferenhell No man except for Chuck Norris.

[brightwell127]

Surely the fct the gloves have the same linning as the trousers etc on them in the left hamd so if the chain did come wont rip your hand about ( only on the left glove thou )

[darkholicz]

i wonder what happens if theres a dude next to him

[flyr33gtst]

do that with a stihl 66 you pussy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[flyr33gtst]

do that with a stihl 66 you pussy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[flyr33gtst]

do that with a stihl 066 you pussy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kenfo0]

Great video. I have seen people do many, many stupid things with saws, risking their lives without knowing it. Well, almost w/o knowing it. Even telling most people, "you are going to drop that tree on yourself" or "that saw's going to kick back", just doesn't matter. Fortunately, I've not been present for any cs deaths/maimings.

[frizzybob]

dude, nice outfit. hahaha.

[thomaswbdswimmer567]

@frizzybob makes it so he doesnt die from getting his pieces cut off

[MoLogger]

I know Joe Glenn personally , real nice guy, knows his stuff...learned under Soren Erickson.

[SpecialAndNotDumb]

@MoLogger want a medal ?

[jaklakmak]

Gloves are for pussies!

[schiros123]

@jaklakmak

you are what's known as a statistic in the industry.

[thomaswbdswimmer567]

@jaklakmak or for people who prefer them i dont but dont hate because until you have tried both ways you cant say anything

[Nesatur]

hmm... wahats the point of this video?

[DavidN23Skidoo]

@Nesatur When kickbacks occur while working, the saw would be turned 90 degrees left, and the kickback would come right at your face. This is a small kickback, with only the tip of the saw making contact with the post, but the operator cannot hold against it. A major kickback will throw you over backwards, and possibly cause fatal injuries.

[sugarpuffextrem]

@DavidN23Skidoo How do kickbacks gets much tougher then that with 50:ish cc saws? No offence but I call bulshit with the "throw you over backwards" thing.

I'm using sthil and husqvarna chainsaws regulary.

[climbon1911]

@sugarpuffextrem it is not that it will throw you backwerds it will suprise you and you are going to say i will expect it but in reality you dont expect it until it is flying at your face no matter what the size of the saw it still suprises you and you fall over or back up or drop the saw or nothing happens it is just the chance so be safe

[cuttybo]

@Nesatur Dont cut your damn legs off from a kickback. It happened to me a few times and once I had to throw the cainsaw over my shoulder to avoid injuries. Some dagerous shit.

[kenfo0]

@cuttybo you cut your legs off a few times? DAMN! How many ya got?

[panzertank15]

@Nesatur hahahahaha

[mmlrc6atgmailcom]

@Nesatur Of you have been useing a chainsaw for long then you would know the importance of this video,,,

[rafurocks]

He must wear gloves because of the fine vibration of the chainsaw.. if you work 15 years with a chainsow without gloves you cant move your fingers anymore or hard... we have a sawmill at home and lots of forest and one worker have to operate his hand now.. soo wear the gloves

[DavidN23Skidoo]

That is a good point. The old saws without vibration protection could wreck your hands pretty fast. I have had surgeons ask for chainsaw instruction and I tell them that they cannot afford to run chainsaws because they will lose fine motor control of their fingers. Gloves won't prevent the damage, but they do soak up a bit of the vibration.

[lzwillis]

@rafurocks I want to know where you got that information.

[otacbitxo]

Nice instructor. Why he dosen't use a protictive gloves??

[DavidN23Skidoo]

Gloves are equipment that you keep with you, and use depending on the task. While you are cutting with both hands on the saw, you actually do not need gloves. Handling the chain for sharpening or changing, moving brush, or working where things may whip your hands, you should wear them. You always put on your gloves to handle wire line. I like to keep mine on a carabiner on my side so I can grab them when I need them.

[at8tc]

@DavidN23Skidoo yeah, wait till you throw your chain and it slaps youre hands, then tell me you dont need to wear them!!

[MacCairnie]

@at8tc The chain goes around so that if it did come off, it wouldn't swing up. It would swing down. It doesn't really swing, though, if the bar is still in the wood... it just sort of flops off.

[sexyspacemonkey]

your right, he should be wearing protective gloves by "law" hear in England but could be different, don't see why is would be and what is the point in talking when the saw is running?

Good demo though.

[billy1857]

thats in england bro not in usa but u really have to whar gloves in England by law?

[sexyspacemonkey]

yeh yeh i know, and as far as i know, yes it is law, but no one is really going to stop you just because you don't have gloves on. more to you safety than any other.

[mystiqueman366]

if nothing at all touches the kickback corner, can it still kickback on you?

[DavidN23Skidoo]

Normally, no. However, runing into wire, a nail, insulator, or other object when you are boring could make your saw push back, and then a kickback could occur. If you are cutting with the top of the bar, and are pinched, the saw will push back, and a kickback can happen then. Novices are often hurt or killed when that happens. Beware of "pushback" which can throw you into the "kickback corner."