Here's the truth - the H1B Visa system is a complete sham because the visas are being used to fill entry-level Bachelor jobs and as a result internationals are coming and taking our entry level jobs that that American college grads are getting shut out of. I know this because I work in Human Resources.
This video is about the Employment Based Green Cards process. It is not about H1B, so don't try to hijack the issue.
And if you are ready for some facts, GET THIS: a guest worker on H1B is free to take up a new job that pays more, but an H1B worker stuck in the EB GC process is expected to deny job promotions, otherwise restart his green card process.
here you are .bitching about green card delays..imagine the frustration and stress for countless students who are stuck with no H1B ..after spending thousands of dollars on education ,even with job offers they are at a risk of going back home a loser.
Cn your frustration be any greater than theirs ? Think about it.
Please don't come to our country we are full. AMERICA is CLOSED stay home and build up your own country take pride in being a strong supporter of your dream in your own country. You will be famous and in all the future history books and your future citizens will name a street or building after you. and your family will be rich but YOU must pave the way by staying in your own country and building it correctly!!
This video is about people already in your country, and who will soon become permanent residents, and some will eventually become US citizens. Any other thoughts or comments pertient to the subject being discussed will be appreciated.
No... I really thought you are smart. That's why I was hoping you would know the answer to your question. My employer, of course, is the answer! My employer has filed my Employment Based green card under the highly skilled category.
Let me know when you are ready with your next question!
Your understanding is completely skewed, and I wonder if Lou Dobbs did this to you, or are you basically not able to appreciate anything but lies and half-truths? My dear American-Born: it's when demand exceeds supply that the world knows it a booming economy... like it is now... even as the housing market is going down. If there is no shortage of skilled workers, it would be a dead economy, like it was in 2001-2002. You really need a wake up call here... please read the next message as well.
I believe your issue is with outsourcing and skilled workers coming to the US on an H1B visa. You think they are taking away jobs from you and acting as a dampener on a booming tech jobs market, for they work for cheap salaries. First of all, you are living in the US, and talking socialism. So if anyone should feel out of place here, it is YOU.
Even then, what do you think will allow an H1B worker to stop working for a low salary? Think about it, and read the next message.
Do you know how hard it is for an offshore IT business to retain its H1B workers working here on deputation? If such an H1B worker is unhappy with his salary, he will likely find another permanent job at some point in time. His new employer will file a green card petition for him. Now, do you not see that it is in YOUR interest if he gets his green card sooner, and competes with you on the same ground, rather than be at an unfair advantage by accepting a smaller paycheck?
How do you benefit from me or any other high skilled worker going back to our countries and take up the so called American jobs shipped to those countries? Don't you see that it will in fact hurt you if more jobs were shipped offshore and more H1B workers kept on coming and then going after being frustrated with the broken green card process, thus making way for new low cost H1B workers to replace them?
You want H1B workers to not compete for jobs with the unfair advantage of a smaller paycheck. Well, give them their green cards, or at least remove the ridiculous restrictions on job mobility, promotions, increments, and you have automatically fixed the low cost labor issue! This is already happening in countries like England where a temp worker is eligible for the Permanent Resident status, as soon as he completes 5 years of working there for any employer, any income, and at any level!
From "Intellectual Property, the Immigration Backlog, and a Reverse Brain-Drain" published by Duke/Harvard/NYU study group (commissioned by Kaufmann Foundation): One in four engineering and technology companies founded between 1995 and 2005 had an immigrant founder. These companies employed 450,000 workers and generated $52 billion in revenue in 2006. Indian immigrants founded more companies than the next four groups (from the United Kingdom, China, Taiwan, and Japan) combined.
Furthermore, these companies' founders were very highly educated in science, technology, math, and engineering-related disciplines, with 96 percent holding bachelor's degrees and 75 percent holding master's or PhD degrees.
In 2006, 16.8 percent of international patent applications from the United States had an inventor or co-inventor with a Chinese heritage name, representing an increase from 11.2 percent in 1998. The contribution of inventors with Indian-heritage names increased to 13.7 percent from 9.5 percent
theres no I.T. shortage going on. there are plenty of people right here who can do your job, and do it better than you. plus with half our nations I.T. jobs shipped off to India, your more than welcomed to take one of those up. i find it a fair trade off for outsourcing. if anything h1b's lower wages, because they work for cheap labor, with 90% being issued to Indian nationals. check out lou dobbs sometime, his videos are right here on youtube.
go work for Rs.20,000 a month, because thats all your worth as far as im concerned. you desis stole our jobs, so go work in bangalore instead, you will live the same lifestyle in your own country of india.
And how do you know this? If they offered you only Rs. 20000 when you applied for a job there, they probably tried to fleece you;-)
Now, help me understand, you want us high skilled workers to go back and contribute to our own countries, instead of contributing to yours? What kind of an American are you?
how do you contribute to anything? your cheap labor and nothing more. american jobs are already in india, i suggest you go back home and take those jobs, if it were upto me i would end the h1b program altogether. you guys want our jobs, then i think its only fair that you shouldnt be allowed to come here. i think thats a fair trade off.
You are missing the point, and hurting YOURSELF. High skilled temp workers who are already here on a LEGAL visa, CANNOT BE DISALLOWED FROM COMING HERE, because, oh... THEY ARE ALREADY HERE! Are you a two year old to not get that?
How do we contribute? Read the next message, please!
Could your company perhaps sponsor you for a green card vs. H1B? Especially if you have been with your company for so long? Or even find another job that will? I have friends in the tech industry working in silicon valley that have done that. Hope your situation gets better!
My employer has indeed sponsored me for a green card. The process takes too long, and makes unreasonable expectations from the applicants (e.g. you can't even take a promotion, forget taking up a different job!) That is why, we are requesting the Congress to address this issue.
Im of Indian descent too. except, im an indian-american. i never lived in india, im not from there. first you people stole our jobs through outsourcing, now your demanding to h1b's? for what? go back to india and take up those jobs you all stole. we need jobs here too for countrymen, why should we keep bringing in you people, when you already stole our jobs and shipped them off to india?
First of all, you have misunderstood our demand. We are not asking for MORE H1B's, we are asking for a fix to the broken high skilled immigration process for people already working here because they are in demand here. Second of all, if high skilled workers are discouraged from immigrating to the USA, more offshoring will happen, whether you or I like it or not.
Offshoring was not the brainchild of Indians. It became a successful business model because of the high availability of skilled professionals in other countries, who could work in different time zones. With competition, businesses could expect high quality and shop and choose from a number of offshore software service providers. If you hate it, you have my sympathies, but in a capitalistic economy, it is the business needs that dictate the terms.
Comment on this video? Untelligible audio. Any US senate staff member will be happy to publish an English version for you, for free! Remember, they are YOUR senators - they're dedicated to you. Do you admire corruption? treason?
Untelligible? Perhaps you mean: un-intelligible. (And then, you comment on my English!)
Now, I am glad you admitted it. You were unable to follow what I said in my video, but you managed to come up with so many comments... how creative of you!
No wonder you have been talking about things such as H1B increase, Hillary Clinton, and best of them all: NAU. LOL:-)))
We are grateful to Americans for making America what it is, but that includes the highly skilled immigrants who became Americans or parents of Americans! Secondly, what American-born citizens can or cannot do is besides the point, the fact is that the contribution of high skilled immigrants is tremendous, as acknowledged by this report.
If someone is given a pink slip in the booming economy like it currently is, it is not because of high skilled immigrants.
Point of order. You are not an immigrant. You're a NON-immigrant. H-1B visa is a NON-immigrant visa. You claim to be brilliant, but you fail to understand your visa is a 6 year temporary work visa.
Clarify: Grateful to American politicians who serve your desires, but abhorrence toward American citizens.
You are not an immigrant. You're a NON-immigrant.: Correct, and I happen to know that "not an immigrant" means the same thing as "NON-immigrant".
H-1B visa is a NON-immigrant visa.: Correct. However, it allows for the "intent to immigrate". When will you guys learn to do your homework? If you read the first few comments here, you could see a paragraph pasted from the USCIS website, clearly stating this fact, in ENGLISH.
You claim to be brilliant, but you fail to understand your visa is a 6 year temporary work visa.:
I am glad you know it is a 6 year visa. Please do me a favor... please inform Honorable Senator Tom Tancredo who went on the record saying that it is a 5 year visa!
I already explained that it is a temporary work visa- but allows the worker to intend to immigrate. If you don't like this fact, please work to change the legislation.
Legal skilled immigrants play an important role in the U.S. economy. They add to the process of scientific discovery, technology development, and innovation, which in turn lead to greater productivity growth. Greater
productivity growth improves the standard of living for the U.S. population as a whole.
That's what skilled Americans used to do before they were pushed aside with pink slips. How do you think America got great enough for you to want to come here? You do know that our leadership spans more than the short time you've been here, don't you?
You support NAU, because NAU will have no limit on the number of your countrymen who can take our jobs. You support NAU, because your candidate, Hillary, supports it. American company? You mean India based body shop contracting you to a US firm. Get your story straight, globalist!
We have nothing to do with NAU, or any other real and unreal threats you hear on your favorite news channels. We have nothing for or against any presidential candidate, as that is not our domain at all. The next thing you are going to ask me is what we are doing about increasing costs of healthcare!
But, you don't really care if it is a body shop. Here is your problem: you want to stop off-shoring, but you don't want US businesses to meet the demand by hiring high skilled workers in the US. You don't want us returning after 6 years, and you don't want us to become permanent residents. All you want is keep your job because you were born here. That is poor attitude.
What is you position, and what is the position of your website's leadership, on the NORTH AMERICAN UNION (the merger of Canada, Mexico, and US)? What will be your role when the NAU takes over, and USA ceases to exist?
What is the position of your India based employer?
You could as well ask me what is the IV leadership's position on global warming;-) IV cannot comment on or respond to such perceived threats or they cannot be expected to solve issues that this country or the world is facing! I did not know we have impressed you so much;-)
As for your other question, I work for an American company. Secondly, even India based employers, like IV, cannot be expected to help you find answers to real and unreal problems that make you worried.
You are deeply imbedded in US politics, so much so, that most of the US Senate considers you H-1Bs to be their constituents. John Cornyn, specifically, is YOUR senator. Need proof? Read your own website. Remember to whine to him for the H1B increases you seek. Read your own website about your desire to raise the H1B cap. Get real, Non-immigrant.
Every legal US resident has the right to association and every such democratic process. Therefore we, the LEGAL immigrants, are petitioning the congress to fix a broken process that is affecting lives of a million high skilled immigrants, that is, prospective US citizens, who, by the way, are bringing a lot of wealth (monetary as well as intellectual) to the US. No wonder we are considered important, and no wonder it disturbs someone like YOU who wants a medal simply for being born here!
Honorable Sen. Cornyn has supported high skilled immigration. Agreed. That does not make him OUR senator and anyone else YOUR senator, stop making such childish arguments.
Now, take this challenge and point me to a page on IV (not on your website or on that of CNN ) where IV has advocated raising the H1B cap. You will be helping IV by doing that, as that is not IV's agenda. In fact, IV recently got a CNN reporter to correct the described intent behind IV's DC Rally from "demand for an increase in H1B cap" to "demand for an increase in Employment Based green cards". Do you get that? WE GOT CNN to correct their report!
Congrats, you are actually closer to the issue than your friends! I cannot speak for every H1B. However people will not wait for the green card if they wanted to go back to our countries, a lot of them do because they do not intend to immigrate. Those of us who apply for a green card, want to work and live here for a long time if not forever. Many of us will graduate to US Citizenship, eventually.
However, unlike YOU, we high skilled immigrants are confident about finding work here, and perhaps even starting a business and giving others like YOU a job one day! Even if I agree with you in that there is a risk in getting replaced by an H1B one day, we are embracing this risk, because we are making the conscious decision of spending our lives in this country... the country also known as the land of opportunity.
INDENTURED SERVITUDE is a crime, and not one of the hundreds of thousands of H1B NON-immigrants have reported this to authorities. Instead, they whine to their sellout hero, Sen. Cornyn, to increase their visa cap (which they habitually violate). Their loyality to Tata trumps obeying the law.
No wonder you are an outcaste... you come from a world where people who appear on a video and tell their real names are cowards... and people with no face and all bad words get accolades for their bravery:-)
Now, you and your friendly news channels can keep trying, but Immigration Voice DOES NOT ask for increase in H1B's.
We ask that for workers already here on a visa that clearly allows for the intent to immigrate, the transition to the "immigrant" status should be quick, fair, reasonable.
INDENTURED SERVITUDE. You can't comment on the cheap labor (labour) INDENTURED SERVITUDE commonly required by your employer, Tata. How sad! You and your people don't have the will to fight (much less, report) the crime that your employer so willingly promulgates.
Still unable to comment on INDENTURED SERVITUDE? Do you require your employees to be indentured? Do you even know what INDENTURED means?
You are probably talking about the bond that someone was asked to sign, but you are mistaking me for that someone;-) I do not work for the Tatas, and even if I did, this video is not about them or anything to do with them. FYI, no bond executed outside of this country holds good in this country, and anyone on H1B is free to quit his job and work for another employer who will sponsor an H1B transfer. Now, talk about the video please, not about your dreams and nightmares.
We are not asking for more or less H1Bs. That is something driven by the economic conditions. You cannot overrule what a growing economy brings with it-- for example, increase in population, and yet, new jobs that cannot be fulfilled by locals. If you think this only happens in the USA, consider going on a world tour.
Our issue is the plight of tax paying people who are here on a visa which allows for the intent to immigrate. These people cannot be asked to wait forever, living in a state of limbo. THE EB GREEN CARD process needs to be fixed, period.
Why would people on H1 whine for more H1s? They already have it, and extensions to H1 don't count under the cap. You have mistaken the purpose of this video. Its about green cards we're talking.
You say you respect some individual whites. Well, I actually hired an Indian and was about to hire another but there was a bureaucratic snafu that prevented me. So, don't be so fast to throw the 'r' word around.
Great, now are you saying you have nothing against Indians? Then why talk so much against India and Indians?
And finally, shall we come back to the point? The point is, both you and I expect a DECISION.
The congress must make up their minds, and either stop inviting high skilled temp workers to come on a visa that allows them to apply for an immigrant status, OR they must see that the immigration process is quick, fair, and reasonable.
IV is used by people from both sides as people can cook up user Ids and stay anonymous. I don't need to look at what someone else said about Americans (my guess is that is what you want me to do). One has to respect one for his merit, not his race. Likewise, no one should be discriminated against or disrespected for his race. I have never done it, and will never do it.
Maybe it's not racism. Maybe it's dislike for being insulted and looked down upon by 'guest' workers. If we came into your country and treated you that way, we'd get thrown out.
Are you kidding me? We do not insult or look down upon Americans.
I work in an office where I am surrounded by people from all races, but two of the people I respect the most in this office (one being my manager) happen to be white Americans.
Now we are getting somewhere. DECISION is what we want too. If you want to abolish guest worker programs and GC's please do. (If your businesses allow you to do it, that is.)
You are free to push for your agenda of bringing the Japanese here!
An entire race or culture or society cannot be corrupt. Not the Indians, not the Chinese, not the Afghans or the Iraqis, and not even the Americans. You are watching too much Lou Dobbs, try KQED, you will feel better.
Great, please end the H1B program. The fact is American businesses won't let this happen.
Don't try some bizarre logic here. Around 1998 the dot-com boom happened which created a huge demand. To say that the US economy did not suffer until then, makes no sense.
If anyone abuses the system, he should be sued and penalized. I have no sympathies for anyone misusing the H1B or L1 visas, be it Indian or anyone else.
But, you or I will not be able to abolish H1B, because, the US economy NEEDS high skilled foreign workers.
I will let Lou Dobbs handle his own problems. He is surely running into a lot of them, thansk to his completely baseless style of reporting. I guess you never read or watch NY Times, KQED, and I will not be surprised if you don't.
Yes, every country has the extremists and the moderates. In America, it is folks like you. Going by your comments, one would think the entire middle east hates Americans!
Your preference for immigrants from Europe is a different way to describe racial discrimination. I am not going into this, because I represent Immigration Voice in this video, not any race.
For understanding who creates and steals jobs, you gotta learn some basic economic principles, but I guess I will be trying too hard if I asked you to study them.
With your one-sided conversation you are making a fool out of yourself and a mockery out of your cause. Now I want to send this url out far and wide, your page here looks so odd. Your temper is your undoing.
"If America does not want to continue the Employment Based legal immigrants, tell us and we will go." Ok then! Now we're getting somewhere. Yes, please leave. Bon voyage.
Nice, except that YOU do not represent America. The congress will need to make a decision. The EB GC program must either be made quick, fair, reasonable, OR it must be abolished.
Foreign workers love to play the race card. Their arrogance, the faked up resumes, their insults to American workers are not seen as wearing out their welcome. If we don't like them any more, they insist, it MUST be that we dislike their race. You guys keep raising the issue, we didn't. You have a huge chip on your shoulder and see racism everywhere.
I am done commenting you. You are not even in my standard to go along. Good luck on your GC process. It was nice to see your video and your comment. Keep it up for rest of the world to see : how to beg for green card.
Before you leave, do let us know which role did you want to play in the end? The immigrant who will die but not protest, or the US citizen who feels insulted?
Call them anything, but Corporate America opposed the bill, and that is a fact. Give us a break, don't try to hijack the issue, try something different this time.
If Immigration Voice is a racist and terrorist organization, what are you doing about it? Nothing, because you know how inane your statements are.
One more time! YOU are not representing America. But do not try to tarnish the common American citizen who thinks rationally, unlike you.
Your English comprehension skills need improvement. What I was saying, was that I was criticising you for implying that I didn't want you to be here because of your color, which is not true, I really don't mind that. There are other reasons to want less immigration that are not based on race.
Well, no confusion here, you are now scared and therefore re-phrasing yourself.
"your color were the ONLY reason not to want you here" does means it is one of the reasons. Your anti-Indian and Chinese and "pro-White" posts are all over this page and clearly expose the racist in you.
My comprehension skills? Do YOU have them at all? This video is about the broken high skilled immigration process in the USA, and how it puts its applicants in a state of limbo for years. This video is NOT about India or its people. All you have been doing here is ask me why India does not have a Google or an Apple, and you talk about comprehension skills? Google or Apple are here, because it is here that they get to hire high skilled immigrants from all over the world.
In fact I doubt if you have any skills, apart from being born in the USA? Why would you otherwise be so diffident and scared of intellignet people like us? Wake up, we high skilled immigrants (be it from India or China or Poland or Australia) are here to help you get new jobs or keep your jobs by making the US economy stronger. Accept it, and join hands with us!
2 year in a pipeline and already frustrated. WOW. I have been in a line for almost six years and I still don't have hard feeling. US has given me a way to come to this country and work on visa. Feel fortunate that you are a part of it. If you start to follow your BOOS logiclife, then you will be nowhere as the guy is profane and sucks.
You don't even have the nerve to come out in the open. Why talk about 6 years? You wouldn't say a thing even if you were in the pipeline for 60 years, you just don't have it in you. Stop disrespecting people you cannot even dream to be like.
There is no need to come out open. This is a known issue and everyone knows about it. What you did by coming out was a beg, you are a begger asking for green card. Everything matters to you is a green card. I am not begger like you. Your poor knowledge on immigration is a result you see sixty-years pipeline. YOU ALL ARE BEGGERS...
Hehehe:-) First of all, watch it, you are speaking to future US citizens.
We are CHOOSERS... we choose to continue to live and work here in the USA for it is a great country to live and work in. Yes, it has a handful of hecklers like you... but you guys cannot stop us and the rest of America from working to ensure that America continues to be the most sought after destination for the best people in the world.
YOU ARE A CHOOSERS???? YOU are the biggest looser in this green card game. When they could not get what they want, then cry, beg, and snatch. I feel pity for you.
It is a heavily mis-understood issue, thanks to folks like you and certain news channels who will do everything to misrepresent facts, and try to club high skilled and LEGAL immigrants with undocumented workers. Now you are scared that we are coming out in the open and exposing you folks. You won't come out in the open, because then you will owe answers to the majority of Americans who think rationally, unlike you.
There is no misunderstanding. WHY? You are not educated here (or at least I think), meaning you don't have to spend a dime here for study. I would push America to look for those who studies and graduates from US college (any nationals - including INDIAN)
Our position is very clear. If America does not want to continue the Employment Based legal immigrants, tell us and we will go. If America wants us, we ask for a decision on our green card applications within a reasonable period of time- say, 1 to 4 years. We cannot be expected to wait, forever, in a state of limbo.
Our position, lol....who is our???? learn to live, you came alone, and you will die alone. There is no such WE. America wants to give GC, but first those who came early. Not like you come here yesterday and get it today.
We = Immigration Voice. We request the congress (we ignore hecklers like you) that the EB GC process be fixed and made reliable and predictable. We cannot be asked to wait forever for a decision. A decision can be a denial, and not necessarily an approval of an application. We do not demand the GC, but we demand a decision.
One doesn't have to wait for 6 years to speak up. Extremely intelligent and talented folks who are graduating from the MIT's and the CMU's are returning to their home countries without even applying for their GCs. Why? Think about it, if you can.
You are right! This video is not for anyone other than beggars. It doesn't deliver anything other than fraud and deception. You should have known these rules before coming to US, not by after exploring green dollars.
We know the rules, and we follow them. You don't know the rules, and so all you can do is shout for nothing.
You are welcome to prove how you think this video delivers fraud and deception. As far as I recall, you were going to tell me if you want to play the US Citizen or the immigrant with the patience of a camel.
Learn ENGLISH first. The comment is not racist at all. It is just advising you to change your outlook that all. And don't blame me if any contact don't feet your eye.
Feel free to explain what flavor of English the following is: "don't blame me if any contact don't feet your eye."
Also get used to running spell-checks before writing things like: "a peice of advise"... oh yeah, first of all, learn how to use a spell-check.
I won't call you a racist if you insist. Anything for you:-) You provide for great entertainment when you make your puerile comments! Keep visiting and entertaining us.
I think you are right. Your video provides great entertainment of poor beggars in pipeline who stand in street and get amused by others honking on them thinking they are supporting. LEARN TO LIVE IN US.
I thought you are leaving. I already know how to live here. Rallying and speaking up for your cause is the most American thing to do. When will YOU learn that?
2 year old happen to be sitting on my lap when I was checking out what is so great about you that you have to appear in a video to beg for green card, and he started to cry asking me to shut down my laptop since your EYES bug him so much, be a part of scary movie 5.
Dear 2 year old! Stop prompting your dad when he writes. He does not know how to spell the words you tell him. I see why you are concerned for your dad losing his job to a high skilled immigrant... he has poor attitude and outdated skills, and he lacks confidence! But it's not late... please ask your dad to join you in watching BARNEY. Besides being a source of entertainment for you, BARNEY can help your dad learn basic etiquette, Science, and Math! (And yes, BARNEY has beautiful EYES too;-)
whats up bug eyes. so you finally liked my comment? when I say something good about indians you like it, and when I say something bad about them, you prefer to dislike it. Learn to live with the fact that every coin has 2 sides.
Dude, stop being a racist, or leave this country. This country is not for racists like you.
I liked your reasonable comment to this other user who wants to blame India and China for everything including poor sales of "gas guzzlers" made in America!
Being an immigrant asking to leave US CITIZEN. I wonder if Indian Economy is like US, I wonder what you do to foreigners. And the above comment is NOT racist at all. Learn to live that INDIA is a great country but people who live in it might be bad and good as well.
Make up your mind. Are you an immigrant or a US citizen? Until yesretday, you were an immigrant with a mountain of patience, waiting for over 6 years for your GC, and feeling lucky that you are allowed to wait.
I won't call you a racist if you hate it so much. Your love for India and people of Indian origina makes it amply clear what you are:-)
I am an immigrant, but my 2 year old is citizen. He holds US passport, and I am happy he doesn't have to run in streets asking for green card help. Asking me out is asking my son out, who happens to be US CITIZEN. What fate you will have? You hate Americans.
If you apply your convoluted logic to me or most people at Immigration Voice, our sons and daughters are American born citizens too. Therefore, speak to us with respect. We are your EQUALs.
If I were to complain that the government of India was hurting me and thwarting my dreams and career plans via their immigration policies, you would laugh me out the door. And, for you to stoop to race baiting is utterly childish - as if taking jobs and insulting Americans were not enough to wear out your welcome, as if your color were the only reason not to want you here. You are delusional if you say there were no job losses due to the importation of you folks.
I think it will get you somewhere. Prove that how high skill immigrant give you jobs? Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are both college drop outs. (THEY ARE NOT HIGH SKILL PEOPLE). LAXMI MITTAL, an immigrant, NOT HIGH SKILL is giving tons of jobs all over the world. His education won't even classify you for EB3 Catagory here.
Don't mention examples that suit you. The site you are using right now (google) was built and is maintained by high skilled immigrants. Also do some research on Orkut Büyükkökten, a high skilled immigrant who developed Orkut.
Google only bought this site, it was not developed by google. LEARN LEARN AND LEARN. GOOGLE is built by half immigrant. NOT FULL. They were not in position to start it, if it was not funded, and who funded, do a little research.
Sure... and then you will also learn German and Japanese to communicate:-) Why so much hatred?
It takes the culture of America to produce the Microsofts and the Apples. That is, the majority of Americans are unlike you, which is why those companies exist in the USA.
You have tried your best, but this issue has nothing to do with India or China.
This is about the probationary status that the EB green card process subjects people to... people who are educated, people who speak and write English not only with YOU but often times even among each other, people who are here legally, and people who work hard to help build YOUR economy.
You do not need voting rights in order to petition the congress. It is a basic principle in democracy. You are free to come to India and petition the congress to increase green cards for American workers:-)
In fact, if the US continues to reject high skilled legal immigrants, I assure you that your dream will come true.
Back after a long time, and have approved most of the comments pending my approval. Thanks for your patience.
FAQ's:
Why the delay?
1. I did not want to waste my time approving comments or otherwise. I was busy preparing for and making videos for the DC rally on 9/18/2007 2. Just thought I should give you a feel for how it is to wait for a decision for years together!
Why do I need to moderate at all? Because I won't let someone use this page to pass on his racist propaganda.
before i ask you my question, i want to make clear that i am not an immigrant and i am not interested in leaving europe. now the question: you have 2-3 million PhDs sitting around unemployed because of foreigners? does it mean that the companies that employed the foreigners prefer hiring them? how come they didn't hire americans then?
Excellent video and I found your comments below very persuasive, even-tempered and free of any racial epithets unlike our friend quagulosity. Keep up the good work.
Just because your experience was different than most, doesn't change the fact that flooding the US with hundreds of thousands of H-1Bs during a recession when we were being laid off by the hundreds of thousands has wasted a generation of American IT talent. Remember America - where IT was mostly invented and was a roaring success before Kiran Karnik ever heard of a computer?
If you mean you can not find a job in Silicon Valley, one thing you can do is to work hard and learn more. You like or not, the world is becoming flater. Competitions are there everywhere. Smarter ones choose to adapt to the change instead of whining " please protect me."
Coz no one wants to live in that silly valley due to its expensiveness. You don't need SV for Computer GEEK. Americans are going to Banglore to get jobs. Indians are moving too. Banglore has replaced the outlook of SV.
If you mean why you can not find a job in Silicon Valley, one way helps you is to work hard and harder. You like it or not, the world is becoming flat. Smarter ones are the ones adapting to the change faster, not the ones whining "Please protect us!"
You cant say just because of Indians the economy start to slide down. The biggest recess happened in Regan era. Don't blame Indians for American Car Sales Decline that has left Detriot as a ghost town.
High time you realized that Azim Premji's WIPRO will take your jobs offshore if you don't admit high skilled workers in your own country.
Job losses that you are describing do not occur due to H1B's. They happen because a business decided to cut costs and assign a project to some vendor who will either bring his own workers and provide quality work for competitive rates, or will do the same project in his own office placed some place offshore.
Secondly, job losses will always occur for cost and competition reasons. Even I would lose mine, now or after I get my green card, if I decide to be complacent, stop taking interest in my job, or stop trying to maintain and enhance my job skills.
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abhipanfan 3 years ago
Here's the truth - the H1B Visa system is a complete sham because the visas are being used to fill entry-level Bachelor jobs and as a result internationals are coming and taking our entry level jobs that that American college grads are getting shut out of. I know this because I work in Human Resources.
chicagosport 4 years ago 3
This video is about the Employment Based Green Cards process. It is not about H1B, so don't try to hijack the issue.
And if you are ready for some facts, GET THIS: a guest worker on H1B is free to take up a new job that pays more, but an H1B worker stuck in the EB GC process is expected to deny job promotions, otherwise restart his green card process.
abhipanfan 3 years ago
here you are .bitching about green card delays..imagine the frustration and stress for countless students who are stuck with no H1B ..after spending thousands of dollars on education ,even with job offers they are at a risk of going back home a loser.
Cn your frustration be any greater than theirs ? Think about it.
mayurgai 4 years ago
I understand your plight. Please check out the immigration voice website for latest on an initiative that will help people like you.
abhipanfan 3 years ago
Please don't come to our country we are full. AMERICA is CLOSED stay home and build up your own country take pride in being a strong supporter of your dream in your own country. You will be famous and in all the future history books and your future citizens will name a street or building after you. and your family will be rich but YOU must pave the way by staying in your own country and building it correctly!!
marqueglisson 4 years ago 4
This video is about people already in your country, and who will soon become permanent residents, and some will eventually become US citizens. Any other thoughts or comments pertient to the subject being discussed will be appreciated.
abhipanfan 3 years ago
No... I really thought you are smart. That's why I was hoping you would know the answer to your question. My employer, of course, is the answer! My employer has filed my Employment Based green card under the highly skilled category.
Let me know when you are ready with your next question!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Your understanding is completely skewed, and I wonder if Lou Dobbs did this to you, or are you basically not able to appreciate anything but lies and half-truths? My dear American-Born: it's when demand exceeds supply that the world knows it a booming economy... like it is now... even as the housing market is going down. If there is no shortage of skilled workers, it would be a dead economy, like it was in 2001-2002. You really need a wake up call here... please read the next message as well.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I believe your issue is with outsourcing and skilled workers coming to the US on an H1B visa. You think they are taking away jobs from you and acting as a dampener on a booming tech jobs market, for they work for cheap salaries. First of all, you are living in the US, and talking socialism. So if anyone should feel out of place here, it is YOU.
Even then, what do you think will allow an H1B worker to stop working for a low salary? Think about it, and read the next message.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Do you know how hard it is for an offshore IT business to retain its H1B workers working here on deputation? If such an H1B worker is unhappy with his salary, he will likely find another permanent job at some point in time. His new employer will file a green card petition for him. Now, do you not see that it is in YOUR interest if he gets his green card sooner, and competes with you on the same ground, rather than be at an unfair advantage by accepting a smaller paycheck?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
How do you benefit from me or any other high skilled worker going back to our countries and take up the so called American jobs shipped to those countries? Don't you see that it will in fact hurt you if more jobs were shipped offshore and more H1B workers kept on coming and then going after being frustrated with the broken green card process, thus making way for new low cost H1B workers to replace them?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
You want H1B workers to not compete for jobs with the unfair advantage of a smaller paycheck. Well, give them their green cards, or at least remove the ridiculous restrictions on job mobility, promotions, increments, and you have automatically fixed the low cost labor issue! This is already happening in countries like England where a temp worker is eligible for the Permanent Resident status, as soon as he completes 5 years of working there for any employer, any income, and at any level!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
It's smart to delete other's comments, isn't it? Who told you, that you are highly skilled?
339283 4 years ago
Not true. The comments that were removed belonged to one or more of the following cagtegories: racist, abusive, irrelevant.
I hope, you are smart enough to understand that!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Agree. I'm not smart and high skilled.
I really believe that 1!=2. So, you are refusing to answer my 2nd question, seeing only one in my previous comment.
Thanks-thanks:)
339283 4 years ago
From "Intellectual Property, the Immigration Backlog, and a Reverse Brain-Drain" published by Duke/Harvard/NYU study group (commissioned by Kaufmann Foundation): One in four engineering and technology companies founded between 1995 and 2005 had an immigrant founder. These companies employed 450,000 workers and generated $52 billion in revenue in 2006. Indian immigrants founded more companies than the next four groups (from the United Kingdom, China, Taiwan, and Japan) combined.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Continued...
Furthermore, these companies' founders were very highly educated in science, technology, math, and engineering-related disciplines, with 96 percent holding bachelor's degrees and 75 percent holding master's or PhD degrees.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Continued...
In 2006, 16.8 percent of international patent applications from the United States had an inventor or co-inventor with a Chinese heritage name, representing an increase from 11.2 percent in 1998. The contribution of inventors with Indian-heritage names increased to 13.7 percent from 9.5 percent
in the same period.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
theres no I.T. shortage going on. there are plenty of people right here who can do your job, and do it better than you. plus with half our nations I.T. jobs shipped off to India, your more than welcomed to take one of those up. i find it a fair trade off for outsourcing. if anything h1b's lower wages, because they work for cheap labor, with 90% being issued to Indian nationals. check out lou dobbs sometime, his videos are right here on youtube.
xgotfiveonitx 4 years ago 11
go work for Rs.20,000 a month, because thats all your worth as far as im concerned. you desis stole our jobs, so go work in bangalore instead, you will live the same lifestyle in your own country of india.
xgotfiveonitx 4 years ago
And how do you know this? If they offered you only Rs. 20000 when you applied for a job there, they probably tried to fleece you;-)
Now, help me understand, you want us high skilled workers to go back and contribute to our own countries, instead of contributing to yours? What kind of an American are you?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
how do you contribute to anything? your cheap labor and nothing more. american jobs are already in india, i suggest you go back home and take those jobs, if it were upto me i would end the h1b program altogether. you guys want our jobs, then i think its only fair that you shouldnt be allowed to come here. i think thats a fair trade off.
xgotfiveonitx 4 years ago
You are missing the point, and hurting YOURSELF. High skilled temp workers who are already here on a LEGAL visa, CANNOT BE DISALLOWED FROM COMING HERE, because, oh... THEY ARE ALREADY HERE! Are you a two year old to not get that?
How do we contribute? Read the next message, please!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Could your company perhaps sponsor you for a green card vs. H1B? Especially if you have been with your company for so long? Or even find another job that will? I have friends in the tech industry working in silicon valley that have done that. Hope your situation gets better!
flipgalrn 4 years ago
My employer has indeed sponsored me for a green card. The process takes too long, and makes unreasonable expectations from the applicants (e.g. you can't even take a promotion, forget taking up a different job!) That is why, we are requesting the Congress to address this issue.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Im of Indian descent too. except, im an indian-american. i never lived in india, im not from there. first you people stole our jobs through outsourcing, now your demanding to h1b's? for what? go back to india and take up those jobs you all stole. we need jobs here too for countrymen, why should we keep bringing in you people, when you already stole our jobs and shipped them off to india?
xgotfiveonitx 4 years ago 4
First of all, you have misunderstood our demand. We are not asking for MORE H1B's, we are asking for a fix to the broken high skilled immigration process for people already working here because they are in demand here. Second of all, if high skilled workers are discouraged from immigrating to the USA, more offshoring will happen, whether you or I like it or not.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Offshoring was not the brainchild of Indians. It became a successful business model because of the high availability of skilled professionals in other countries, who could work in different time zones. With competition, businesses could expect high quality and shop and choose from a number of offshore software service providers. If you hate it, you have my sympathies, but in a capitalistic economy, it is the business needs that dictate the terms.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Comment on this video? Untelligible audio. Any US senate staff member will be happy to publish an English version for you, for free! Remember, they are YOUR senators - they're dedicated to you. Do you admire corruption? treason?
BadAssOutcaste 4 years ago
Untelligible? Perhaps you mean: un-intelligible. (And then, you comment on my English!)
Now, I am glad you admitted it. You were unable to follow what I said in my video, but you managed to come up with so many comments... how creative of you!
No wonder you have been talking about things such as H1B increase, Hillary Clinton, and best of them all: NAU. LOL:-)))
abhipanfan 4 years ago
We are grateful to Americans for making America what it is, but that includes the highly skilled immigrants who became Americans or parents of Americans! Secondly, what American-born citizens can or cannot do is besides the point, the fact is that the contribution of high skilled immigrants is tremendous, as acknowledged by this report.
If someone is given a pink slip in the booming economy like it currently is, it is not because of high skilled immigrants.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Point of order. You are not an immigrant. You're a NON-immigrant. H-1B visa is a NON-immigrant visa. You claim to be brilliant, but you fail to understand your visa is a 6 year temporary work visa.
Clarify: Grateful to American politicians who serve your desires, but abhorrence toward American citizens.
The Bad Ass OUTCASTE
BadAssOutcaste 4 years ago 4
Clarifications- part 1:
You are not an immigrant. You're a NON-immigrant.: Correct, and I happen to know that "not an immigrant" means the same thing as "NON-immigrant".
H-1B visa is a NON-immigrant visa.: Correct. However, it allows for the "intent to immigrate". When will you guys learn to do your homework? If you read the first few comments here, you could see a paragraph pasted from the USCIS website, clearly stating this fact, in ENGLISH.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Clarifications- part 2:
You claim to be brilliant, but you fail to understand your visa is a 6 year temporary work visa.:
I am glad you know it is a 6 year visa. Please do me a favor... please inform Honorable Senator Tom Tancredo who went on the record saying that it is a 5 year visa!
I already explained that it is a temporary work visa- but allows the worker to intend to immigrate. If you don't like this fact, please work to change the legislation.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Clarify: Grateful to American politicians who serve your desires, but abhorrence toward American citizens.
Don't try to put your words in my mouth. I respect all US citizens. In fact unlike you, I do also respect immigrants who later became US citizens.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Legal skilled immigrants play an important role in the U.S. economy. They add to the process of scientific discovery, technology development, and innovation, which in turn lead to greater productivity growth. Greater
productivity growth improves the standard of living for the U.S. population as a whole.
Source: 2006 Economic Report of President
nilouferab 4 years ago
That's what skilled Americans used to do before they were pushed aside with pink slips. How do you think America got great enough for you to want to come here? You do know that our leadership spans more than the short time you've been here, don't you?
LordElvis666 4 years ago 4
You support NAU, because NAU will have no limit on the number of your countrymen who can take our jobs. You support NAU, because your candidate, Hillary, supports it. American company? You mean India based body shop contracting you to a US firm. Get your story straight, globalist!
BadAssOutcaste 4 years ago
We have nothing to do with NAU, or any other real and unreal threats you hear on your favorite news channels. We have nothing for or against any presidential candidate, as that is not our domain at all. The next thing you are going to ask me is what we are doing about increasing costs of healthcare!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I do NOT work for a body shopper. I say the name of my company on the video and you can google it.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
But, you don't really care if it is a body shop. Here is your problem: you want to stop off-shoring, but you don't want US businesses to meet the demand by hiring high skilled workers in the US. You don't want us returning after 6 years, and you don't want us to become permanent residents. All you want is keep your job because you were born here. That is poor attitude.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
What is you position, and what is the position of your website's leadership, on the NORTH AMERICAN UNION (the merger of Canada, Mexico, and US)? What will be your role when the NAU takes over, and USA ceases to exist?
What is the position of your India based employer?
The Bad Ass Outcaste
BadAssOutcaste 4 years ago
You could as well ask me what is the IV leadership's position on global warming;-) IV cannot comment on or respond to such perceived threats or they cannot be expected to solve issues that this country or the world is facing! I did not know we have impressed you so much;-)
As for your other question, I work for an American company. Secondly, even India based employers, like IV, cannot be expected to help you find answers to real and unreal problems that make you worried.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
You are deeply imbedded in US politics, so much so, that most of the US Senate considers you H-1Bs to be their constituents. John Cornyn, specifically, is YOUR senator. Need proof? Read your own website. Remember to whine to him for the H1B increases you seek. Read your own website about your desire to raise the H1B cap. Get real, Non-immigrant.
BadAssOutcaste 4 years ago
Every legal US resident has the right to association and every such democratic process. Therefore we, the LEGAL immigrants, are petitioning the congress to fix a broken process that is affecting lives of a million high skilled immigrants, that is, prospective US citizens, who, by the way, are bringing a lot of wealth (monetary as well as intellectual) to the US. No wonder we are considered important, and no wonder it disturbs someone like YOU who wants a medal simply for being born here!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Honorable Sen. Cornyn has supported high skilled immigration. Agreed. That does not make him OUR senator and anyone else YOUR senator, stop making such childish arguments.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Now, take this challenge and point me to a page on IV (not on your website or on that of CNN ) where IV has advocated raising the H1B cap. You will be helping IV by doing that, as that is not IV's agenda. In fact, IV recently got a CNN reporter to correct the described intent behind IV's DC Rally from "demand for an increase in H1B cap" to "demand for an increase in Employment Based green cards". Do you get that? WE GOT CNN to correct their report!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I don't know the Hindi translation, but NON-immigrant means "Not" an immigrant.
H-1B is for taking our jobs, and returning to Bangalore after 6 years.
Interesting that you, who distort the defination of NON-immigrant, demand green cards, and not citizenship.
Green cards for ease of travel back and forth to Bangalore.
But
Citizenship would get you fired from your job and replaced by a H-1B.
THE BAD ASS OUTCASTE
BadAssOutcaste 4 years ago 3
Congrats, you are actually closer to the issue than your friends! I cannot speak for every H1B. However people will not wait for the green card if they wanted to go back to our countries, a lot of them do because they do not intend to immigrate. Those of us who apply for a green card, want to work and live here for a long time if not forever. Many of us will graduate to US Citizenship, eventually.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
However, unlike YOU, we high skilled immigrants are confident about finding work here, and perhaps even starting a business and giving others like YOU a job one day! Even if I agree with you in that there is a risk in getting replaced by an H1B one day, we are embracing this risk, because we are making the conscious decision of spending our lives in this country... the country also known as the land of opportunity.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
H1B NON-immigrants are cowards!
INDENTURED SERVITUDE is a crime, and not one of the hundreds of thousands of H1B NON-immigrants have reported this to authorities. Instead, they whine to their sellout hero, Sen. Cornyn, to increase their visa cap (which they habitually violate). Their loyality to Tata trumps obeying the law.
Illegals and H1Bs - not much difference.
The Bad Ass Outcaste
BadAssOutcaste 4 years ago 3
No wonder you are an outcaste... you come from a world where people who appear on a video and tell their real names are cowards... and people with no face and all bad words get accolades for their bravery:-)
Now, you and your friendly news channels can keep trying, but Immigration Voice DOES NOT ask for increase in H1B's.
We ask that for workers already here on a visa that clearly allows for the intent to immigrate, the transition to the "immigrant" status should be quick, fair, reasonable.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Ha! ha!
INDENTURED SERVITUDE. You can't comment on the cheap labor (labour) INDENTURED SERVITUDE commonly required by your employer, Tata. How sad! You and your people don't have the will to fight (much less, report) the crime that your employer so willingly promulgates.
Still unable to comment on INDENTURED SERVITUDE? Do you require your employees to be indentured? Do you even know what INDENTURED means?
BadAssOutcaste 4 years ago 2
You are probably talking about the bond that someone was asked to sign, but you are mistaking me for that someone;-) I do not work for the Tatas, and even if I did, this video is not about them or anything to do with them. FYI, no bond executed outside of this country holds good in this country, and anyone on H1B is free to quit his job and work for another employer who will sponsor an H1B transfer. Now, talk about the video please, not about your dreams and nightmares.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
We are not asking for more or less H1Bs. That is something driven by the economic conditions. You cannot overrule what a growing economy brings with it-- for example, increase in population, and yet, new jobs that cannot be fulfilled by locals. If you think this only happens in the USA, consider going on a world tour.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Our issue is the plight of tax paying people who are here on a visa which allows for the intent to immigrate. These people cannot be asked to wait forever, living in a state of limbo. THE EB GREEN CARD process needs to be fixed, period.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Why would people on H1 whine for more H1s? They already have it, and extensions to H1 don't count under the cap. You have mistaken the purpose of this video. Its about green cards we're talking.
nilouferab 4 years ago
You say you respect some individual whites. Well, I actually hired an Indian and was about to hire another but there was a bureaucratic snafu that prevented me. So, don't be so fast to throw the 'r' word around.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
Great, now are you saying you have nothing against Indians? Then why talk so much against India and Indians?
And finally, shall we come back to the point? The point is, both you and I expect a DECISION.
The congress must make up their minds, and either stop inviting high skilled temp workers to come on a visa that allows them to apply for an immigrant status, OR they must see that the immigration process is quick, fair, and reasonable.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Some users, behind their cloaks of anonymity, are posting vulgar or abusive comments.
I am not going to approve or respond to such comments.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Go back to IV and check the comments in the Business Week thread.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
IV is used by people from both sides as people can cook up user Ids and stay anonymous. I don't need to look at what someone else said about Americans (my guess is that is what you want me to do). One has to respect one for his merit, not his race. Likewise, no one should be discriminated against or disrespected for his race. I have never done it, and will never do it.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Maybe it's not racism. Maybe it's dislike for being insulted and looked down upon by 'guest' workers. If we came into your country and treated you that way, we'd get thrown out.
LordElvis666 4 years ago 2
Are you kidding me? We do not insult or look down upon Americans.
I work in an office where I am surrounded by people from all races, but two of the people I respect the most in this office (one being my manager) happen to be white Americans.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Now we are getting somewhere. DECISION is what we want too. If you want to abolish guest worker programs and GC's please do. (If your businesses allow you to do it, that is.)
abhipanfan 4 years ago
You are free to push for your agenda of bringing the Japanese here!
An entire race or culture or society cannot be corrupt. Not the Indians, not the Chinese, not the Afghans or the Iraqis, and not even the Americans. You are watching too much Lou Dobbs, try KQED, you will feel better.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Great, please end the H1B program. The fact is American businesses won't let this happen.
Don't try some bizarre logic here. Around 1998 the dot-com boom happened which created a huge demand. To say that the US economy did not suffer until then, makes no sense.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
If anyone abuses the system, he should be sued and penalized. I have no sympathies for anyone misusing the H1B or L1 visas, be it Indian or anyone else.
But, you or I will not be able to abolish H1B, because, the US economy NEEDS high skilled foreign workers.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Huh, the courts are afraid of siding with truth? This is the USA, dude, where are you?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I will let Lou Dobbs handle his own problems. He is surely running into a lot of them, thansk to his completely baseless style of reporting. I guess you never read or watch NY Times, KQED, and I will not be surprised if you don't.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Commens on India are not relevant here. Please make comments relevant to the video, or leave.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Yes, every country has the extremists and the moderates. In America, it is folks like you. Going by your comments, one would think the entire middle east hates Americans!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Your preference for immigrants from Europe is a different way to describe racial discrimination. I am not going into this, because I represent Immigration Voice in this video, not any race.
For understanding who creates and steals jobs, you gotta learn some basic economic principles, but I guess I will be trying too hard if I asked you to study them.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
With your one-sided conversation you are making a fool out of yourself and a mockery out of your cause. Now I want to send this url out far and wide, your page here looks so odd. Your temper is your undoing.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
I am responding to YOUR comments. Please "view all comments". Reload if you do not see your comments.
Yes, please invite one and all.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
What on earth are you responding to? It looks like you're talking to yourself. When are you going to post the comments that you are answering?
LordElvis666 4 years ago
I am approving, then responding to comments.
Click on "view all comments" to see the complete thread.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
"If America does not want to continue the Employment Based legal immigrants, tell us and we will go." Ok then! Now we're getting somewhere. Yes, please leave. Bon voyage.
LordElvis666 4 years ago 4
Nice, except that YOU do not represent America. The congress will need to make a decision. The EB GC program must either be made quick, fair, reasonable, OR it must be abolished.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Foreign workers love to play the race card. Their arrogance, the faked up resumes, their insults to American workers are not seen as wearing out their welcome. If we don't like them any more, they insist, it MUST be that we dislike their race. You guys keep raising the issue, we didn't. You have a huge chip on your shoulder and see racism everywhere.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
Your love for India and its people is all over this page. We don't play the race card, you do.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I am done commenting you. You are not even in my standard to go along. Good luck on your GC process. It was nice to see your video and your comment. Keep it up for rest of the world to see : how to beg for green card.
GC2US 4 years ago
Thanks, and have a nice day.
Before you leave, do let us know which role did you want to play in the end? The immigrant who will die but not protest, or the US citizen who feels insulted?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Call them anything, but Corporate America opposed the bill, and that is a fact. Give us a break, don't try to hijack the issue, try something different this time.
If Immigration Voice is a racist and terrorist organization, what are you doing about it? Nothing, because you know how inane your statements are.
One more time! YOU are not representing America. But do not try to tarnish the common American citizen who thinks rationally, unlike you.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Your English comprehension skills need improvement. What I was saying, was that I was criticising you for implying that I didn't want you to be here because of your color, which is not true, I really don't mind that. There are other reasons to want less immigration that are not based on race.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
Well, no confusion here, you are now scared and therefore re-phrasing yourself.
"your color were the ONLY reason not to want you here" does means it is one of the reasons. Your anti-Indian and Chinese and "pro-White" posts are all over this page and clearly expose the racist in you.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
My comprehension skills? Do YOU have them at all? This video is about the broken high skilled immigration process in the USA, and how it puts its applicants in a state of limbo for years. This video is NOT about India or its people. All you have been doing here is ask me why India does not have a Google or an Apple, and you talk about comprehension skills? Google or Apple are here, because it is here that they get to hire high skilled immigrants from all over the world.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
In fact I doubt if you have any skills, apart from being born in the USA? Why would you otherwise be so diffident and scared of intellignet people like us? Wake up, we high skilled immigrants (be it from India or China or Poland or Australia) are here to help you get new jobs or keep your jobs by making the US economy stronger. Accept it, and join hands with us!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I agree with you. I think this guy is learning english. Your comment will explore him different opportunities to learn.
GC2US 4 years ago
2 year in a pipeline and already frustrated. WOW. I have been in a line for almost six years and I still don't have hard feeling. US has given me a way to come to this country and work on visa. Feel fortunate that you are a part of it. If you start to follow your BOOS logiclife, then you will be nowhere as the guy is profane and sucks.
GC2US 4 years ago
You don't even have the nerve to come out in the open. Why talk about 6 years? You wouldn't say a thing even if you were in the pipeline for 60 years, you just don't have it in you. Stop disrespecting people you cannot even dream to be like.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
There is no need to come out open. This is a known issue and everyone knows about it. What you did by coming out was a beg, you are a begger asking for green card. Everything matters to you is a green card. I am not begger like you. Your poor knowledge on immigration is a result you see sixty-years pipeline. YOU ALL ARE BEGGERS...
GC2US 4 years ago
Hehehe:-) First of all, watch it, you are speaking to future US citizens.
We are CHOOSERS... we choose to continue to live and work here in the USA for it is a great country to live and work in. Yes, it has a handful of hecklers like you... but you guys cannot stop us and the rest of America from working to ensure that America continues to be the most sought after destination for the best people in the world.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
YOU ARE A CHOOSERS???? YOU are the biggest looser in this green card game. When they could not get what they want, then cry, beg, and snatch. I feel pity for you.
GC2US 4 years ago
Yeah, I am a CHOOSERS. Did you even do First Grade English, dude?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Not the right choice of word. You should consider using We are BEGGARS. You are learning. DO IT RIGHT, and you will be in right spot.
GC2US 4 years ago
We will all become US citizens just like you and your forefathers. By calling us beggars, you are calling yourself and your forefathers beggars.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Your comments are all over this page, and they are the proof of your in-depth understanding of immigration;-)
abhipanfan 4 years ago
It is a heavily mis-understood issue, thanks to folks like you and certain news channels who will do everything to misrepresent facts, and try to club high skilled and LEGAL immigrants with undocumented workers. Now you are scared that we are coming out in the open and exposing you folks. You won't come out in the open, because then you will owe answers to the majority of Americans who think rationally, unlike you.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
There is no misunderstanding. WHY? You are not educated here (or at least I think), meaning you don't have to spend a dime here for study. I would push America to look for those who studies and graduates from US college (any nationals - including INDIAN)
GC2US 4 years ago
And now you change the gear! Why suddenly feel like accepting high skilled people who also studied here?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Our position is very clear. If America does not want to continue the Employment Based legal immigrants, tell us and we will go. If America wants us, we ask for a decision on our green card applications within a reasonable period of time- say, 1 to 4 years. We cannot be expected to wait, forever, in a state of limbo.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Our position, lol....who is our???? learn to live, you came alone, and you will die alone. There is no such WE. America wants to give GC, but first those who came early. Not like you come here yesterday and get it today.
GC2US 4 years ago
We = Immigration Voice. We request the congress (we ignore hecklers like you) that the EB GC process be fixed and made reliable and predictable. We cannot be asked to wait forever for a decision. A decision can be a denial, and not necessarily an approval of an application. We do not demand the GC, but we demand a decision.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
One doesn't have to wait for 6 years to speak up. Extremely intelligent and talented folks who are graduating from the MIT's and the CMU's are returning to their home countries without even applying for their GCs. Why? Think about it, if you can.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
LOL:))) If he is profane then I don't know what to call you:)
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Call me whatever you want it. OR You will not have anything left to comment???
GC2US 4 years ago
Nice try. You called LogicLife profane, I did not call you anything. If LogicLife is profane, what are you?
YOU have no point to make, besides lamenting about India, Indian companies, and Indian people, when this video is not about any of these.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Where is his video now? GONE? where? Didn't you all follow him and created one after another? 2 are already gone. MEET YOU IN DC, haha.
GC2US 4 years ago
Uh-oh. So you are missing him already! I will let him know.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
You are right! This video is not for anyone other than beggars. It doesn't deliver anything other than fraud and deception. You should have known these rules before coming to US, not by after exploring green dollars.
GC2US 4 years ago
We know the rules, and we follow them. You don't know the rules, and so all you can do is shout for nothing.
You are welcome to prove how you think this video delivers fraud and deception. As far as I recall, you were going to tell me if you want to play the US Citizen or the immigrant with the patience of a camel.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
You should consult with your friend (guru) what to call as your guru is great in giving advise and using profanity.
GC2US 4 years ago
Profanity is your forte, not his! The WORLD can see it in YOUR comments, not his.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Also, bug eyes, a peice of advise for you to wear a glass while appearing in a video like such above, my 2 year old gets scared by your eyes.
GC2US 4 years ago
Just an example of the kind of crass comments these racists would post if I do not moderate this page.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Learn ENGLISH first. The comment is not racist at all. It is just advising you to change your outlook that all. And don't blame me if any contact don't feet your eye.
GC2US 4 years ago
Feel free to explain what flavor of English the following is: "don't blame me if any contact don't feet your eye."
Also get used to running spell-checks before writing things like: "a peice of advise"... oh yeah, first of all, learn how to use a spell-check.
I won't call you a racist if you insist. Anything for you:-) You provide for great entertainment when you make your puerile comments! Keep visiting and entertaining us.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I think you are right. Your video provides great entertainment of poor beggars in pipeline who stand in street and get amused by others honking on them thinking they are supporting. LEARN TO LIVE IN US.
GC2US 4 years ago
I thought you are leaving. I already know how to live here. Rallying and speaking up for your cause is the most American thing to do. When will YOU learn that?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
By the way, this video is not for 2 year olds. In fact, it is only for adults who can think rationally;-)
abhipanfan 4 years ago
2 year old happen to be sitting on my lap when I was checking out what is so great about you that you have to appear in a video to beg for green card, and he started to cry asking me to shut down my laptop since your EYES bug him so much, be a part of scary movie 5.
GC2US 4 years ago
Dear 2 year old! Stop prompting your dad when he writes. He does not know how to spell the words you tell him. I see why you are concerned for your dad losing his job to a high skilled immigrant... he has poor attitude and outdated skills, and he lacks confidence! But it's not late... please ask your dad to join you in watching BARNEY. Besides being a source of entertainment for you, BARNEY can help your dad learn basic etiquette, Science, and Math! (And yes, BARNEY has beautiful EYES too;-)
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Irrational comment from a rational guy, WTF. You don't even know what is rational. lol
GC2US 4 years ago
Using 3 and 4 letter words now, huh! Good you finally made up your mind to leave.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
whats up bug eyes. so you finally liked my comment? when I say something good about indians you like it, and when I say something bad about them, you prefer to dislike it. Learn to live with the fact that every coin has 2 sides.
GC2US 4 years ago
Dude, stop being a racist, or leave this country. This country is not for racists like you.
I liked your reasonable comment to this other user who wants to blame India and China for everything including poor sales of "gas guzzlers" made in America!
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Being an immigrant asking to leave US CITIZEN. I wonder if Indian Economy is like US, I wonder what you do to foreigners. And the above comment is NOT racist at all. Learn to live that INDIA is a great country but people who live in it might be bad and good as well.
GC2US 4 years ago
Make up your mind. Are you an immigrant or a US citizen? Until yesretday, you were an immigrant with a mountain of patience, waiting for over 6 years for your GC, and feeling lucky that you are allowed to wait.
I won't call you a racist if you hate it so much. Your love for India and people of Indian origina makes it amply clear what you are:-)
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I am an immigrant, but my 2 year old is citizen. He holds US passport, and I am happy he doesn't have to run in streets asking for green card help. Asking me out is asking my son out, who happens to be US CITIZEN. What fate you will have? You hate Americans.
GC2US 4 years ago
If you apply your convoluted logic to me or most people at Immigration Voice, our sons and daughters are American born citizens too. Therefore, speak to us with respect. We are your EQUALs.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
If I were to complain that the government of India was hurting me and thwarting my dreams and career plans via their immigration policies, you would laugh me out the door. And, for you to stoop to race baiting is utterly childish - as if taking jobs and insulting Americans were not enough to wear out your welcome, as if your color were the only reason not to want you here. You are delusional if you say there were no job losses due to the importation of you folks.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
Stop blaming immigrants for problems. it will not get you anywhere.
My color be the "only" reason? What's up dude? If you came out in the open and said that to anyone, you would be behind the bars.
So, shut up and stay behind your veil, and don't abuse your use of this web site.
BTW, one more time... high skilled immigrants GIVE you jobs, not take them away. Period.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
I think it will get you somewhere. Prove that how high skill immigrant give you jobs? Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are both college drop outs. (THEY ARE NOT HIGH SKILL PEOPLE). LAXMI MITTAL, an immigrant, NOT HIGH SKILL is giving tons of jobs all over the world. His education won't even classify you for EB3 Catagory here.
GC2US 4 years ago
Don't mention examples that suit you. The site you are using right now (google) was built and is maintained by high skilled immigrants. Also do some research on Orkut Büyükkökten, a high skilled immigrant who developed Orkut.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Google only bought this site, it was not developed by google. LEARN LEARN AND LEARN. GOOGLE is built by half immigrant. NOT FULL. They were not in position to start it, if it was not funded, and who funded, do a little research.
GC2US 4 years ago
I never said it was developed by Google. it was developed by Orkut himself.
Who is Google anyway? A bunch of people right? Do you know how many of them were born in the US?
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Sure... and then you will also learn German and Japanese to communicate:-) Why so much hatred?
It takes the culture of America to produce the Microsofts and the Apples. That is, the majority of Americans are unlike you, which is why those companies exist in the USA.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
So how come you know about them;-)
Anyways, I never worked for those companies, but I will forward this to them so that they can sue you for your baseless allegations.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
You have tried your best, but this issue has nothing to do with India or China.
This is about the probationary status that the EB green card process subjects people to... people who are educated, people who speak and write English not only with YOU but often times even among each other, people who are here legally, and people who work hard to help build YOUR economy.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
You do not need voting rights in order to petition the congress. It is a basic principle in democracy. You are free to come to India and petition the congress to increase green cards for American workers:-)
In fact, if the US continues to reject high skilled legal immigrants, I assure you that your dream will come true.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Back after a long time, and have approved most of the comments pending my approval. Thanks for your patience.
FAQ's:
Why the delay?
1. I did not want to waste my time approving comments or otherwise. I was busy preparing for and making videos for the DC rally on 9/18/2007 2. Just thought I should give you a feel for how it is to wait for a decision for years together!
Why do I need to moderate at all? Because I won't let someone use this page to pass on his racist propaganda.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
before i ask you my question, i want to make clear that i am not an immigrant and i am not interested in leaving europe. now the question: you have 2-3 million PhDs sitting around unemployed because of foreigners? does it mean that the companies that employed the foreigners prefer hiring them? how come they didn't hire americans then?
tomamil 4 years ago
Why our posts are not published? Is this so called HIGH SKILL IMMIGRANT who is waiting to become Project Manger works for google?
GC2US 4 years ago
Excellent video and I found your comments below very persuasive, even-tempered and free of any racial epithets unlike our friend quagulosity. Keep up the good work.
nitlsu 4 years ago
Keep lying about the massive job losses due to you folks, we'll just go around you with our organizations, which are more numerous than you.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
Now you are censoring comments - a sign that you lost long ago.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
Just because your experience was different than most, doesn't change the fact that flooding the US with hundreds of thousands of H-1Bs during a recession when we were being laid off by the hundreds of thousands has wasted a generation of American IT talent. Remember America - where IT was mostly invented and was a roaring success before Kiran Karnik ever heard of a computer?
LordElvis666 4 years ago
God Bless US
Country of Immigrants, built by immigrants.
Future talented immigrants are law abiding, here to contribute to our country, economy and sure have better lives for them.
Future is in better hands with the intelligent people who grow the economy, country.
Let us embrace them to grow ourselves.
USAhuman 4 years ago
Are you the God?
04311941 4 years ago
They are illegal immigrants. The owner should be put into jail because he broke the law.
04311941 4 years ago
Because if you were in management position, you would
deny a job to a Chinese or Indian, you say Chinese and Indian in management would deny jobs to you.
Change your mind and behavior first, I would
assure the situation is not that bad to you. You
live in the best country in the world. English
is your first language. Why do you not have
confidence?
04311941 4 years ago
If you mean you can not find a job in Silicon Valley, one thing you can do is to work hard and learn more. You like or not, the world is becoming flater. Competitions are there everywhere. Smarter ones choose to adapt to the change instead of whining " please protect me."
04311941 4 years ago
Dening a job to a qualified American by a chinese or Indian in management? Because you if in a management
position would deny a job to a chinese or American, you think chinese and indian would deny jobs to Americans? What a logic!
04311941 4 years ago
Coz no one wants to live in that silly valley due to its expensiveness. You don't need SV for Computer GEEK. Americans are going to Banglore to get jobs. Indians are moving too. Banglore has replaced the outlook of SV.
GC2US 4 years ago
If you mean why you can not find a job in Silicon Valley, one way helps you is to work hard and harder. You like it or not, the world is becoming flat. Smarter ones are the ones adapting to the change faster, not the ones whining "Please protect us!"
04311941 4 years ago
Those are illegal immigrants. Wake up
04311941 4 years ago
where is the evidence?
04311941 4 years ago
You cant say just because of Indians the economy start to slide down. The biggest recess happened in Regan era. Don't blame Indians for American Car Sales Decline that has left Detriot as a ghost town.
GC2US 4 years ago
A welcome change, this reasonable comment from you GC2US. Please post some more of these, or else someone may think I hacked into your account;-)
abhipanfan 4 years ago
No, no job losses happened because of high skilled workers. Since I don't accept that statement, I cannot, even I try to, answer your WHY.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
What are you smoking? There have been hundreds of thousands of jobs losses by Americans, replaced with H-1bs. Azim Premji even admits it.
LordElvis666 4 years ago
High time you realized that Azim Premji's WIPRO will take your jobs offshore if you don't admit high skilled workers in your own country.
Job losses that you are describing do not occur due to H1B's. They happen because a business decided to cut costs and assign a project to some vendor who will either bring his own workers and provide quality work for competitive rates, or will do the same project in his own office placed some place offshore.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Secondly, job losses will always occur for cost and competition reasons. Even I would lose mine, now or after I get my green card, if I decide to be complacent, stop taking interest in my job, or stop trying to maintain and enhance my job skills.
abhipanfan 4 years ago
Your wifes "Master of Computer Applications" is nothing but a certficate to us, not a real graduate degree.
LordElvis666 4 years ago