Bach's Crab Canon

[chrispikeyp]

some really good stuff here

[stargirlsusan]

I need some context here why is it called crab? It sound like the musical offering too

[alexasmithy]

very interesting video thanks

[Paklurah1000]

bach is a genius

[MetalheadWorking]

BACH is music god any other question? :D

[LankanTVPresenter]

ahhhh....my canon's feeling crabby as I listen to this...mmmmm...oooooh....any moment now, il fire

[MeandmagiC]

you can also play it upside down youknow

[thenamesfrancisco]

why is this called the crab canon?

[Rickeeey1]

@thenamesfrancisco

I think it's because the right hand plays one melody, the left hand another and in the middle the hands switch melodies. So the right hand plays what the left hand played and the left hand plays what the right hand played but starting from the middle. So it's a kind of palindrome too.

[mtv565]

@thenamesfrancisco How do crabs walk?

[greencatsick]

I wish I had a crab canon

[Strefanasha]

the trouble is the two parts are not in tune with each other as regards pitch. is this a function of trying to produce it by synthesizer of some kind?

[Strefanasha]

take it from soneone who grappled with bach counterpoint in his own music degree studies: this kind of contrapuntal genius is TERRIFYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[littleasshole26]

huh?

[ihamoitc2005]

Monorythmic Bach is at it again.

[gr0mithtimon]

@ihamoitc2005

Ah, you again with the same complaint about the same cannon. What exactly is your point?

[norecuerdominombre]

3 personas dislikes???? el mundo está loco....

[TheLuaron]

This song just gave me CRABS!!!

[operachild]

^Inception before Inception.^

[jxw137]

has anyone ever played the first mario bros game?

[JLucRob]

@jxw137 Ahah! Yeah, this reminds me of the old Mario Bros games :D

[jazzlover06]

Could Gödel Escher Bach be the greatest non-fiction book of the last Century?

[DairDubh]

Eternal Golden Braid, The Mind's I and I am a Strange Loop should be required reading for all STEM courses these days.

Also worth reading, The Loom of God; Mathematical Tapestries at the Edge of Time.

[OrbiliusMagister]

Just to look picky, the fifth quaver in bar 14 (or the fourth quaver in bar 5 in the mirrored part), there is a Db instead of a D natural. If you don't trust... go to /watch?v=xUHQ2ybTejU

That's Bach.

[MMmusing]

Thanks for the tip. You're right, of course - not sure why I'd never noticed it. Perhaps someday I'll correct it.

[wcbroccoli]

@OrbiliusMagister  I stumbled on this video for the 1st time today and immediately heard some sour notes: the d-flats in m5/voice 2 and m15/voice 1.

The error in m5 is especially grating.

Yet in the 2 years this video has been posted, no one else (judging from the mostly glowing comments about the piece and the composer) seems to have heard anything wrong.

Either 21st c. ears are very tolerant, or else there are lot of tin ears out there. LOL

[msproson]

@OrbiliusMagister

Being pickier still, it's actually the Db in bars 4 and 15 that's incorrect.

[Askelairlines747]

i just learnt what it was today this very hour, and it is impossible to copmpose a canon 0_0

no Bach was definately not lazy, he went to travel 400 km by foot each way to see Buxtehude

[rodstartube]

im a bach fan, know almost all of his work, i play him at piano, but, i must say honestly this particular piece is awfull to me

[rodstartube]

why crab and not a worm or an ant?

[JakeDust]

Have you ever seen a crab moving? :)

[rodstartube]

n oi havent

[piggemz]

haha wow, i used to think bach was so dry and boring, but now i see why he deserves to be so famous

[czechmate17]

fucking genius

[Echnaton1993]

That's no crap, that's Bach. It's nice!

[RoulfYelrab]

Has anyone read Godel, Escher, Bach?

[lickdove]

Ha, yes.. I was reading through it about 30 mins ago. Thats one crazy book.

[RoulfYelrab]

Isn't it though? You should the dialogue the author wrote between Achilles and the Tortoise. It's insane.

[lickdove]

Haha yeah, thats the part that got me interested in it in the first place.. all those conversations are genius!

[RoulfYelrab]

Yes indeed. I'd like to read the whole book someday.

[semicromapuntata]

yes i read Godel Escher Bach - un 'Eterna Ghirlanda Brillante.. i'm from italy...

[KazaVAN]

yes and your point in that is?...

[Benur87]

@RoulfYelrab meeeeeeeee finally found someone have read this!!! great book, not for all in truth.... :))

[kirlll]

@RoulfYelrab

I'm in the middle of it, excellent book!

[fgpx78]

@RoulfYelrab Wonderful book

[BrynSowash]

@RoulfYelrab I just started Godel, Escher, Bach and I'm blown away. Can't wait to dive in deeper; this stuff is incredible!

[bretbryan]

@RoulfYelrab Sure have, still reading!

[tempodimarcia]

This kind of thing is just ridiculously hard to write.

Pieces like this are the ones that leave you in awe.

[BeauJames59]

nice job..........

[Markohoppis]

A crab canon is also called a retrograde canon isn't it? It means the follower is the leader played backwards and simultaneously with the leader?

[cyndie26]

Why does the bottom part take the melody?

[debartzen]

Aquí demuestra JSB,poder jugar con la simetría,la música y consigue algo conceptualmente dificilísimo.Nos envía un mensaje.

[germzneverdie]

I dont know to think that either bach got lazy in his writing and thought... "well i'll just write everything backwards cuz i can't come up with any ideas to finish this!" or its like the the coolest thing ever

[polymath7]

I cast my vote for the latter.

[AgroTimor]

yep - try it, it's hard because the voices have to match both directions

[DonVueltaMorales]

OK. Bach was never lazy. This stuff is hard as shit to write. The two halves have to work top/bottom and bottom/top. I'll give you an example: You can have a low F (fa) and a higher C (do). That makes an interval of a 5th, which is pretty cool. But if you reverse the voices, like putting the C (do) lower and the F (fa) higher the sound is a 4th, which kind of harsh and really doesn't work unless you make the F go to E right away. When you write it, you have to imagine both simultaneously.

[bsartist]

When your canons start sleeping around with the wrong people, this is what happens.

[sorafb]

yaaaaaay crabs... I mean Bach!

[Imonlysleeping9]

Very nice to see!! The sight of actual crabs marking the place in the score made me die laughing!!

[ariastoteles]

A miracle of music. A miracle of video. A miracle of Youtube. A miracle of you, my dear mkmonroes!

Salut!

[Shadgrimgrvy]

I'm half way through reading GEB right now and I've been wanting to here some of Bach's canons that are described.

[Princeofbriars]

Thanks for the post, Bach's last few works are among the greatest ever written!

[impossimadnescyAJ]

Bach's crab canon is very complex . xelpmoc yrev si nonac barc s'hcaB

[cyndie26]

What does xelpmoc yrev si nonac barc s'hcaB mean? Bach's crab canon is very complex in backwards?

[raticida123456]

just a genius

[Branchporter]

very interesting gnitseretni yrev

[terryregnar]

I enjoyed that! Thx