Channel am940kyno - today on the show 'Steve Wayte Part 2' high speed rail was the topic of discussion: It's a good idea but the will end as a boondogle.
Lol so sad how California state will be the only state that will have high speed train in the United states while other's rest of the states don't have it.
@SuperJason91 Actually Las Vegas is planning its own high speed train which will connect to Victorville and eventually Palmdale, which is a planned station in the CAHSR system. I also heard that Utah, Arizona, and Reno are seriously planning on joining the high speed train bandwagon by introducing their own high speed rail routes.
@SuperJason91 Look up the DesertXpress website, that's the Las Vegas to Victorville with a planned extension to Palmdale. Personally I can't wait to travel on high speed trains from my home sin city to family members in Fresno.
With high speed trains and trams, the USA may one day offer every American an economical means of seeing his own city and the whole country. Could I suggest more colorful city-scapes?
The Sacramento Urban Area has the absolute strangest form I have ever seen on Google Earth. The dense downtown is as far west as possible with mostly suburban development stretching for miles only east and south of it. Strange...
I encourage you to check out the area for yourself in Google Earth to know what I mean. Thumbs up if you already know what I mean.
Dear Americans, can't you see how the politicians bought by corporations are destroying your country. You are already laughing stock to the rest of developed world. I don't understand how many of you can think high speed rail is a wast of taxpayer's money, and still you give billions in subsidies to airlines.
@Jithral These are the colors of the University of California system. U.C.L.A., U.C. Berkeley, and the other campuses provided inspiration for the livery in the conceptual illustrations.
Why is it that China builds a whole network of HSR in the last 5 years easily. Too many people complain about this and there has to be like a million votes just to simply get into the debate room. There has to be a million votes just to do anything in this country. I am not communist. If we just build it we'll like it but there just has to be objections and argueing and more time wasted. Please just get this built and get us out of war in order to pay for it.
Bullet train? Who rides the trains anymore? I wouldn't take my kids anywhere near a train station. First, they need to look at the safety aspects of it. Install safety rails between the tracks and platform. I've seen far too many accidents.
@throttlehard God dude people in Europe ride the train every day. I rode the train every day in Boston. New Yorkers ride the fucking train, People in DC ride the fucking train. Just stay in your suburb and drive your car if your so afraid of life.
@throttlehard High Speed Trains are the safest mode of travel in the world. There has never been a passenger death on any dedicated high speed rail line anywhere in the world.
@throttlehard Who rides the train anymore? Oh, more than 30 million trips on slow, pitiful Amtrak alone each year...that doesn't include city rail. LA Metrolink carries more than than triple that number each fiscal year. And do what they say and stand behing the yellow line on platforms.
What do they want ! Sacramento to be like crowded New York City! I'd rather be spread out living in the suburbs in my OWN car waiting in traffic jams than live in a crowded 50 story building rat race relying on a stupid train to take me to my destination sitting or standing next to a bunch of people that could be sick or little kids crying. This is ridiculous and before you build some billion dollar train fix all the roads that have been neglected for the past 30 years !(Ex I80 I5 interchange)
@gibb1991 Yes this is true. Though the land in Sacramento that is becoming the suburbs is mainly open grass land, range, prairie etc. Though anytime there is development it is going to take up farm land etc. I think for many including myself that it would be hard to convince us that living in a dense inner city is better than the suburbs. The suburbs are much cleaner, provide better schools, and police protection. California and US is built on the idea of having a house that one can call home.
@Tanarus20 The liberals will always disagree with this awesome proposal. Mainly because they believe that we should simply just widen freeways and build new terminals. I say we need a balanced mix between all of them and this will most certainly help!
@EpiDemic117 "Mainly because they believe that we should simply just widen freeways and build new terminals."
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The irony here is the liberals are the ones who want to cap & trade us to death too...You'd think these bullet trains are more environmentally friendly that they be all for it..hypocrites
@Tanarus20 I don't give a fuck about the environmental side. I care about the costs and time this system can save. by decreasing time it takes to travel long distances, which also cuts costs as well. IT also has the capability of generating large portions of revenue. Something your public road and highway system DOES NOT.
Dude its the liberals and progressives who are for HSR. Thats why California passed a prop for it and every other state rejected funds because California is progressive. Are you a Conservative for HSR, you'd be the first.
@Sevenfold120 It's really widely accepted by most Americans. High Speed Rail was a bi-partisan subject until Obama started supporting it, then it just became a political toy. I'm a Republican and proud to support high speed rail.
@7CoolKidKevin The Transbay Terminal will only be constructed in San Francisco, it has already begun. Other cities will get new terminals and Los Angeles' Union Station will be renovated.
@Sevenfold120 Wow, you got to work on your grammar buddy.
oh wait, is it possible that your bad grammar means that you’re not from the U.S.? Possibly from Europe? if its true then what a surprise
Just so you know the last time I went to Europe I was really hoping I could use the trains to do a round trip from Frankfurt to Amsterdam. The prices were terrible! Its like it doesn’t even solve any problems! I could get on a plane for so much cheaper! those trains are slow, expensive, worthless!
@dizzleblackizzle Yeah my grammar was pretty bad, but no I am not from Europe, I am from sacramento. But I speak 3 languages so English is starting to mix.
Trains are a great way to see the countryside but are more expensive than taking a flight, obviously. However, trains are a great way to get from point A to B to C and back to A in cities for short distances. Thats why they are so common in European cities, or at least public trans.
Sacramento could desperate use a train route to the AP.
@gibb1991 Guess it depends on the route... sometimes its more expensive to fly, sometimes not. I bet anything its cheaper to take the train on the east coast than the west.
@bmomjian Obviously you didnt figure it out. Basically when it provide a central hub businesses have a reason to build around it. Its like building a school - if the school is nice then usually homes are built around it.
In this case the economy grows around a central transportation hub.
@jerelconstantino the empire state building was the Capitol Grand Tower (965 ft to top of pinnacle) but the economy crashed in 2008......... Same goes with many of the other skyscraper projects.
this system should be started with the financial aid of the government. Then should be let go and have companies operate it. Anything that is government run turns to rubish few years after it's establishment. This is the problem with it. In France and Japan. Both HSR systems are operated by companies.
@EpiDemic117 That's the idea. Once completed, the rail system will be given to a private company. And your right, private companies work best. Both of Japan's companies were entirely privatized in 1986.
@gibb1991 Funny that you criticize someone else's spelling. Where you say loose, you mean lose. Lose your keys, lose a bet, etc. Becoming loose is what happens to a nut and bolt, or to your girlfriend when you don't pay her enough attention.
@Majorcue: Chill out. So what, I hit the "o" key an extra time by accident. Didn't know someone could be the ultimate a**hole over the most simple typo.
@gibb1991 Ultimate A-hole? I think you're proving yourself to be exactly that with all of your posts here. If you hadn't criticized someone else's spelling of Amtrak, I wouldn't have said anything. And it wasn't a typo. You didn't know the difference between the words, just like many people today. It's a common error.
@Majorcue: Oh, yeah. Because pressing the same key twice can't possibly be an accident... You're so ignorant and you're probably one of those people who think very highly of themselves. I know very well the difference between the words. Just like I know the difference between, "they're, their, and there," as well as, "your and you're." So, if you want to stop being a d-bag and have a mildly intelligent conversation then feel free to reply; otherwise, don't bother.
believe it or not, America had high speed train in the 1930s, because some of the train such as the Hiawatha that cruised the zephys reached 112.5 MPH and in the 1939s the fastest train in the America hit 125 MPH after the upgrade, these High speed train were powered by steam. so that was the very first High speed train before the Shinkansen.
Time to consider trains to solve our commuting problems. We expand our freeways spending the tax payers money, yet we dont seem to get rid of the congestion. Freeways suck!
sacramento is so lame, this video looks promising and has great potential of what could be, but with this economy and the people working in sac, this is unfortunately not going to happen..
I'm so glad I left that state! You're so deep in the red now and can't pay for the fairytail BS candy currently "entitled" to your non-working and grossly over-compensated union members. Did taxpayers pay for these cute but expensive movies? USPS and Amtrack lose around $10 Billion a year all tabbed to American taxpayers...Get ready Cali (those who do pay taxes)...you'd eat a lot more if this ever passed. BTW...love the ridiculous Obama-like symbol on the train! Hope & Change going well?
Obama-like symbol??? boy listen, bush and the cronies didnt do shit for you, me, or any other american, and u expect the world to change in ONE YEAR? THE NATIONAL DEBT TO GO DOWN IN ONE YEAR? yeah right get a life
McSwagger...now calm down. Although, addressing me as "Boy" was nice given my age. Kuddos! Back to topic...uhmm, yes...a BS Obama-like symbol is what I see. BTW, there is no evidence supporting ANY logical pursuit towards fixing a thing in this country. Nothing he's pursued can be supported mathematically to solve anything other than taking us ALL down to the....bottom. Social equality for all!
@McSwagger830 Why is it you Obamatard-libs always talk about Bush to defend The Messiah? If you're right, and Bush was the worst president ever, does that justify the Teleprompter turning this country into a Socialist, or Marxist state? Move to Cuba, why don't you, if you like Socialism so much... It's a short trip, and you'll have great cigars. Unfortunately, you won't be able to afford them.
@eyemavol01: Uh-huh, and our highways loose $18 billion per year and our airports loose $15 billion. You're way off. Amtrak (you might want to spell it properly next time) doesn't even get $1 billion per year from Federal Funding. Comparing Amtrak's current services to High Speed Rail is absolutely preposturous.
@gibb1991: My apologies....I've not had the opportunities to get close enough to one of the trains in order to confirm the correct spelling. I hope I didn't "Loose" any respect over this small oversight?
I just cannot believe that CaliforniaTARDS voted for light rail. Well then again, maybe I can. If you think the USPS and Amtrak are STINKING BLUE ELEPHANTS that lose money each year, you aint seen nothin yet. The cost for the line from San Fran to LA is supposed to cost....what, 40 billion? And it is not allowed to use any public money to build..HAHA! When it is running, the private company running it will get a GAURANTEED rider level per year (government subsidy), or at least that is the rumor.
now thinkabout it, Amtrak has piss 23 Billions of money to stay allive and upgrade for the tracks, the government almost put the amtrak out of buisness for good in 2002 because there weren't making a profets, so its time to start investing for a better rail system, Caltrain is one of the best rail system in the U.S.
@sideslide23: Problem is Rail has a hard time just breaking even. This line is going to cost at least 100 billion ( no way 50 billion will cover costs). This huge amount of money is a total drag on the system. It will be very hard to pay for this system without very high fares OR THE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZING the hell out of each trip........BLEEECH!
there talking about just having the HSR go from L.A. to San Jose istead of all the way to San fransisco because of Palo Alto so if people want to go to SF they'll have to make connection with the Caltrain in San Jose and take it all the way to SF or eliminate the baby bullet express and put the High speed train on the existing caltrain tracks and operat at low speed of 80 MPH
Indeed, I have heard of plans to simply use the CalTrain route as the spur up to San Fran; especially as it is being electrified with the correct equipment to allow that to happen, and eliminating several grade crossings. It seems a likely shortcut to save money on the initial, plus I would count on the speeds being raised somewhat with more refitting. If they were to build a dedicated spur line, it'd probably be more sensible to build it as a later 'extension' rather than in the base system.
@sideslide: That is all well an fine, BUT, to make a true high speed system it would cost a ton of money just to grade that terrain. Hopefully they scale it down so it will be LESS of a drag on California. Ciao!
Didn't a huge bond measure pass to get this thing done? It will never happen. The finds from the measure will end up just like every other California taxpayer dollar, in some black hole or to pay the salaries of some administrative assistants making $70,000 to process mountains of paperwork back and forth between bureaucrats. The levy improvements and highway improvement bonds? Still haven't seen much work done on those areas. Schools are in pisspoor shape. That is the state of California.
personally agree because Amtrak is the slowest transit in C.A. Greyhound bus and privat Cars goes faster than Amtrak because Amtrak always comes late, it hit every station and it end in Bakerfield so you have to take the Throughway bus. Caltrain is the best train in California.
very true because Amtrak have piss 23 billions of dollar to stay alive and upgrade their routs. and Amtrak should get their own right away so they don't share with freight rail like Caltrain has their own right away.
High speed trains in Sac, right! they would have to completely replace the rail system, even the train operators are afraid to go over 60mph, slower on a hot day.
Its Coming its coming because there Working on the Station right now, there digging under the building, across the street from the Publice parking Garadge.
They were the ones that killed the planned Texas HSR system and helped to kill Florida's plan, just because they were afraid of a bit of competition. Well suck it up Southwest! It's a dog eat dog world and you're acting like the little pup trying to be a wolf. You can't keep on attempting to kill HSR projects. Public support for these systems are growing fast and you won't be able to stop that momentum.
I hope I get to see the new metropolis Sac before I die. Looks very interesting. Anything for the betterment of Sacramento then I'm all for it. I love my hometown so much!!
Never mind now. It's not going to happen since California is on the very edge of Bankruptcy. Because CA's congress didn't pass a proper budget, the state's credit rating will be lowered to Junk-Bond status...i.e. NO way of ever funding this project! The good news is they'll STILL find a way to pay for welfare, section-8 housing, food stamps, child care, college aid, pre-K to 12 schooling, breakfast-lunch programs, prison housing, etc. etc. etc. for the 16+ MILLION ILLEGAL aliens in our state.
Freeways are massively expensive and justify the continued abuse of personal vehicles, along the proposed train corridor. They are trying to develop a transport centric population, to reduce urban sprawl . Such a large infrastructure project will create thousands of jobs during construction and operation, and I would be certain that they would target employment from areas that require urban renewal. The tourist potential of HSR would be enormous, especially if you route it near DisneyLand.
Good question, and how about the german ICE3/Velaro, long tested in Germany, now proving its success at high speed in Spain between Madrid en Barcelona?
I would guess the Shinkansen accelerates faster (more stops, closer cities), but does that mean they are slower or less reliable on long distance? I'm not sure. Anyone with facts is welcome ;)
As for AGV, it still is a test train, so I wouldn't bet on it just yet ;)
You could probably build a modified N700 for 350 km/h design speed since the U.S. does not have as strict of noise guidelines as Japan. Taiwan did that with the 700T and that can go up to 315 km/h
How well that would do in an earthquake remains to be seen. It also remains to be seen how willing they would be to do a technology transfer as they did with China for the CRH3- part of the appeal of HSR in California is that it would restart the manufacturing industry.
Sacramento wont get a direct blow from a major earthquake. the most people in sad would feel is probably a 3.0-4.0? Its a valley, sac isn't near a major fault line.
i can tell you this 9pluto, my great-great grandfather was the telegrapher and station agent for the southern pacific rr back in 1919 in Brighton Cal.- a town that doesn't exist anymore- it was this town that became the Sacramento Train station and look how much it's grown, how far we have become since. Cheer up!
I agree with both of you: ChelseaM2323 & jasonbobbymiller,
Empty Space/Buildings near the tracks can make for use as a Maintenence Shed/Facilty for HSR Trains. Including traing for HSR. That in itself can create 100'000's of permanant jobs total at sites like those across the country
I hear Obama in creating Jobs, but he does NOT hear people like you and I demanding "Cross Country HSR".
THAT alone guarantees 100,000's of jobs before the first train gets Built/Tested.
We don't have enough money on the planet to run HSR across this entire nation. Aside from that it isn't a very intelligent way environmentally or economically to do so... 500 mile corridors is the max HSR should be used on. When you have to exceed that it's better to fly. - economically and environmentally.
I love how they show the empty space that was the old rail yard by the river! The city has got to decide what to do with that eyesore area already! I was born in Sac and it's always been a dump right there. I really hope we get the high speed rail going soon. Sacramento is already ahead of LA with the light-rail as far as public transport goes... I love 916!!!
I'm was also born there and I live there now, i wish the city would improve that area with something usefull. Same with K Street but the owner of all those buildings along K street won't improve them.
What about getting around when you arrive at your destination? One advantage that can work well, if it can be figured out, is that if the trains can be equipped with auto-transport cars. That way, passengers can take their vehicles with them to their destinations and drive them there. It's similar to freight trains carrying semi-truck trailers or sea ferries.
True, but only if public transportation can get you exactly where you need to go and you have to know what the local scheduling is. For many people, they don't have time to constantly check public transportation schedules.
yeah but not that many people are like that. Be realistic. This will be a waste of billions of dollars. Whevever government gets involved in something like this, it tends to fail. Why aren't any private companies proposing high-speed rail lines? Because there's no public demand for it!
HELLO!!! Haven't you ever heard of the DesertXpress project?! It's a planned, completely PRIVATELY FUNDED HSR project going from Las Vegas to Southern California. It's set to break ground in early 2010!
The reason why this project may be successful is because Las Vegas and Southern California are tourist destinations. I'll bet that they'll be more tourists riding this train than Southern Cal/Las Vegas locals.
As much as Californians want High Speed Rail...I hope it happens soon. Not JUST for California, but for America as a whole. Look at other countries that have HSR:
Japan - The size of California.
South Korea - About the same size as Minnesota.
Spain - Slightly more than twice the size of Oregon.
France - slightly less than double the size of Colorado.
Taiwan - Slightly larger than the states of Maryland & Delaware combined.
Don't get me wrong. I love mass transit. But a couple reasons those countries have such extensive train systems is that they are 1) small 2) have much higher population density than the US and 3) have large subsidies to their national and private rail systems.
However, the massive Rail project America needs, can still be done. The Tax Dollars that should be paid by those Corporates given Tax Breaks - giving them up to BILLIONS in savings - can be used to help pay for the Mega rail project.
people need to understand... Efficiency = money...
admx94 2 months ago
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Channel am940kyno - today on the show 'Steve Wayte Part 2' high speed rail was the topic of discussion: It's a good idea but the will end as a boondogle.
ZombieCaretaker 3 months ago
That's some pretty sweet CGI!
Booyaka9001 3 months ago
Lol so sad how California state will be the only state that will have high speed train in the United states while other's rest of the states don't have it.
SuperJason91 3 months ago
@SuperJason91 Actually Las Vegas is planning its own high speed train which will connect to Victorville and eventually Palmdale, which is a planned station in the CAHSR system. I also heard that Utah, Arizona, and Reno are seriously planning on joining the high speed train bandwagon by introducing their own high speed rail routes.
7vegashighroller 1 month ago
@7vegashighroller Oh my gosh that's even better that way people's don't have to spend so much money on airplane.
SuperJason91 1 month ago
@SuperJason91 Look up the DesertXpress website, that's the Las Vegas to Victorville with a planned extension to Palmdale. Personally I can't wait to travel on high speed trains from my home sin city to family members in Fresno.
7vegashighroller 1 month ago
@7vegashighroller Thanks for the website.
SuperJason91 1 month ago
@7vegashighroller You live in Sin City? Me i live in Sacramento so yeah...ya.
SuperJason91 1 month ago
With high speed trains and trams, the USA may one day offer every American an economical means of seeing his own city and the whole country. Could I suggest more colorful city-scapes?
yarmo28 4 months ago
I WISH Sacramento was that urbanized.
MrTechCenter 6 months ago
The Sacramento Urban Area has the absolute strangest form I have ever seen on Google Earth. The dense downtown is as far west as possible with mostly suburban development stretching for miles only east and south of it. Strange...
I encourage you to check out the area for yourself in Google Earth to know what I mean. Thumbs up if you already know what I mean.
Scoinsoffaterocks 6 months ago 4
will the old sacramento shop complex from the sp still be around if this goes through?
btomimatsucunard 10 months ago
Dear Americans, can't you see how the politicians bought by corporations are destroying your country. You are already laughing stock to the rest of developed world. I don't understand how many of you can think high speed rail is a wast of taxpayer's money, and still you give billions in subsidies to airlines.
arna11420 10 months ago
yeah thats neat... never gonna happen though
countmecha 10 months ago
Haha, they've stolen the train colors from the Dutch national railways :P
Jithral 10 months ago
@Jithral These are the colors of the University of California system. U.C.L.A., U.C. Berkeley, and the other campuses provided inspiration for the livery in the conceptual illustrations.
CommunityBuildersSB 7 months ago
Why is it that China builds a whole network of HSR in the last 5 years easily. Too many people complain about this and there has to be like a million votes just to simply get into the debate room. There has to be a million votes just to do anything in this country. I am not communist. If we just build it we'll like it but there just has to be objections and argueing and more time wasted. Please just get this built and get us out of war in order to pay for it.
sinceritus 11 months ago
Bullet train? Who rides the trains anymore? I wouldn't take my kids anywhere near a train station. First, they need to look at the safety aspects of it. Install safety rails between the tracks and platform. I've seen far too many accidents.
throttlehard 11 months ago
@throttlehard God dude people in Europe ride the train every day. I rode the train every day in Boston. New Yorkers ride the fucking train, People in DC ride the fucking train. Just stay in your suburb and drive your car if your so afraid of life.
Sevenfold120 11 months ago
@throttlehard High Speed Trains are the safest mode of travel in the world. There has never been a passenger death on any dedicated high speed rail line anywhere in the world.
gibb1991 10 months ago
@throttlehard Who rides the train anymore? Oh, more than 30 million trips on slow, pitiful Amtrak alone each year...that doesn't include city rail. LA Metrolink carries more than than triple that number each fiscal year. And do what they say and stand behing the yellow line on platforms.
gibb1991 5 months ago
Very cool!
cmmajik 1 year ago
"The liberals"?
What are you morons babbling about??
hocobo 1 year ago
if we get this people will rather take this over Greyhound bus, cars, and planes.
sideslide23 1 year ago
What do they want ! Sacramento to be like crowded New York City! I'd rather be spread out living in the suburbs in my OWN car waiting in traffic jams than live in a crowded 50 story building rat race relying on a stupid train to take me to my destination sitting or standing next to a bunch of people that could be sick or little kids crying. This is ridiculous and before you build some billion dollar train fix all the roads that have been neglected for the past 30 years !(Ex I80 I5 interchange)
js182010 1 year ago
@js182010 There's a problem with spreading out the suburbs, it takes up farmland and decreases food production.
gibb1991 1 year ago
@gibb1991 Yes this is true. Though the land in Sacramento that is becoming the suburbs is mainly open grass land, range, prairie etc. Though anytime there is development it is going to take up farm land etc. I think for many including myself that it would be hard to convince us that living in a dense inner city is better than the suburbs. The suburbs are much cleaner, provide better schools, and police protection. California and US is built on the idea of having a house that one can call home.
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irockm2934c 1 year ago
America NEEDS bullet trains. Make this happen!!!
GO California!!!
Tanarus20 1 year ago
@Tanarus20 The liberals will always disagree with this awesome proposal. Mainly because they believe that we should simply just widen freeways and build new terminals. I say we need a balanced mix between all of them and this will most certainly help!
EpiDemic117 1 year ago
@EpiDemic117 "Mainly because they believe that we should simply just widen freeways and build new terminals."
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The irony here is the liberals are the ones who want to cap & trade us to death too...You'd think these bullet trains are more environmentally friendly that they be all for it..hypocrites
Tanarus20 1 year ago
@Tanarus20 I don't give a fuck about the environmental side. I care about the costs and time this system can save. by decreasing time it takes to travel long distances, which also cuts costs as well. IT also has the capability of generating large portions of revenue. Something your public road and highway system DOES NOT.
EpiDemic117 1 year ago
@EpiDemic117 What?
Dude its the liberals and progressives who are for HSR. Thats why California passed a prop for it and every other state rejected funds because California is progressive. Are you a Conservative for HSR, you'd be the first.
Sevenfold120 11 months ago
@Sevenfold120 It's really widely accepted by most Americans. High Speed Rail was a bi-partisan subject until Obama started supporting it, then it just became a political toy. I'm a Republican and proud to support high speed rail.
gibb1991 10 months ago
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There is no ghetto in the future? lol
OVNPRIDE 1 year ago
There's no ghetto in the future? lol
OVNPRIDE 1 year ago
when will they start making this
or has it been cancelled
7CoolKidKevin 1 year ago
@7CoolKidKevin The groundbreaking will be in 2012. The new Transbay Terminal has already started construction.
gibb1991 1 year ago
@gibb1991 have they build the Transbay Terminal in every city they were planning to put it, or are they gonna build them one by one
7CoolKidKevin 1 year ago
@7CoolKidKevin The Transbay Terminal will only be constructed in San Francisco, it has already begun. Other cities will get new terminals and Los Angeles' Union Station will be renovated.
gibb1991 1 year ago
great idea, lets just go compleatly Euro and have Socialism and add a bill of animal rights to the US constitution.
dizzleblackizzle 1 year ago
@dizzleblackizzle You think trains is a bad idea? What an idiot you sound like.
Sevenfold120 1 year ago
@Sevenfold120 Wow, you got to work on your grammar buddy.
oh wait, is it possible that your bad grammar means that you’re not from the U.S.? Possibly from Europe? if its true then what a surprise
Just so you know the last time I went to Europe I was really hoping I could use the trains to do a round trip from Frankfurt to Amsterdam. The prices were terrible! Its like it doesn’t even solve any problems! I could get on a plane for so much cheaper! those trains are slow, expensive, worthless!
dizzleblackizzle 1 year ago
@dizzleblackizzle Yeah my grammar was pretty bad, but no I am not from Europe, I am from sacramento. But I speak 3 languages so English is starting to mix.
Trains are a great way to see the countryside but are more expensive than taking a flight, obviously. However, trains are a great way to get from point A to B to C and back to A in cities for short distances. Thats why they are so common in European cities, or at least public trans.
Sacramento could desperate use a train route to the AP.
Sevenfold120 1 year ago
@Sevenfold120 More expensive? I can go from Indianapolis to Chicago for 1/10th the cost of flying.
gibb1991 1 year ago
@gibb1991 Guess it depends on the route... sometimes its more expensive to fly, sometimes not. I bet anything its cheaper to take the train on the east coast than the west.
Sevenfold120 1 year ago
@Sevenfold120 Makes sense. Everything seems to get more expensive towards the west.
gibb1991 1 year ago
@dizzleblackizzle I think that comment was a tad extreme.
gibb1991 1 year ago
haha North Sacramento is a WHOLE other world
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RastafariPoet 1 year ago
Wow, the train builds skyscrapers as it goes by. Amazing. ;-)
bmomjian 1 year ago 5
@bmomjian Obviously you didnt figure it out. Basically when it provide a central hub businesses have a reason to build around it. Its like building a school - if the school is nice then usually homes are built around it.
In this case the economy grows around a central transportation hub.
Sevenfold120 1 year ago
@Sevenfold120 Uh, it was a joke. See the smiley.
bmomjian 1 year ago
@bmomjian My apologies mate.
Sevenfold120 1 year ago
what's that tall building that looks like the empire state building? are they actually going to be building that?
jerelconstantino 1 year ago
@jerelconstantino the empire state building was the Capitol Grand Tower (965 ft to top of pinnacle) but the economy crashed in 2008......... Same goes with many of the other skyscraper projects.
enigma99a 9 months ago
as cool as it looks, until cali gets their unions under control, the illegals dealt with, and a new tax/regulation structure, this is a dream.
geekworks 1 year ago
this system should be started with the financial aid of the government. Then should be let go and have companies operate it. Anything that is government run turns to rubish few years after it's establishment. This is the problem with it. In France and Japan. Both HSR systems are operated by companies.
EpiDemic117 1 year ago
@EpiDemic117 That's the idea. Once completed, the rail system will be given to a private company. And your right, private companies work best. Both of Japan's companies were entirely privatized in 1986.
gibb1991 1 year ago
i wanna move there
kenpachiclay11 1 year ago
as if we had the money to do this? sacramento is barely holding up the transiet:P
OkinawaYutaka 1 year ago
@gibb1991 Funny that you criticize someone else's spelling. Where you say loose, you mean lose. Lose your keys, lose a bet, etc. Becoming loose is what happens to a nut and bolt, or to your girlfriend when you don't pay her enough attention.
Majorcue 1 year ago
@Majorcue: Chill out. So what, I hit the "o" key an extra time by accident. Didn't know someone could be the ultimate a**hole over the most simple typo.
gibb1991 1 year ago
@gibb1991 Ultimate A-hole? I think you're proving yourself to be exactly that with all of your posts here. If you hadn't criticized someone else's spelling of Amtrak, I wouldn't have said anything. And it wasn't a typo. You didn't know the difference between the words, just like many people today. It's a common error.
Majorcue 1 year ago
@Majorcue: Oh, yeah. Because pressing the same key twice can't possibly be an accident... You're so ignorant and you're probably one of those people who think very highly of themselves. I know very well the difference between the words. Just like I know the difference between, "they're, their, and there," as well as, "your and you're." So, if you want to stop being a d-bag and have a mildly intelligent conversation then feel free to reply; otherwise, don't bother.
gibb1991 1 year ago
believe it or not, America had high speed train in the 1930s, because some of the train such as the Hiawatha that cruised the zephys reached 112.5 MPH and in the 1939s the fastest train in the America hit 125 MPH after the upgrade, these High speed train were powered by steam. so that was the very first High speed train before the Shinkansen.
sideslide23 1 year ago
Time to consider trains to solve our commuting problems. We expand our freeways spending the tax payers money, yet we dont seem to get rid of the congestion. Freeways suck!
franklindavid 1 year ago 3
@franklindavid We got a good freight rail network, not it is time for a passenger rail network including high-speed
mugshotesp 1 year ago
Only in our dreams this will happen.
igorg003 1 year ago
sacramento is so lame, this video looks promising and has great potential of what could be, but with this economy and the people working in sac, this is unfortunately not going to happen..
Tepic87 1 year ago
I'm so glad I left that state! You're so deep in the red now and can't pay for the fairytail BS candy currently "entitled" to your non-working and grossly over-compensated union members. Did taxpayers pay for these cute but expensive movies? USPS and Amtrack lose around $10 Billion a year all tabbed to American taxpayers...Get ready Cali (those who do pay taxes)...you'd eat a lot more if this ever passed. BTW...love the ridiculous Obama-like symbol on the train! Hope & Change going well?
eyemavol01 1 year ago
Obama-like symbol??? boy listen, bush and the cronies didnt do shit for you, me, or any other american, and u expect the world to change in ONE YEAR? THE NATIONAL DEBT TO GO DOWN IN ONE YEAR? yeah right get a life
McSwagger830 1 year ago
McSwagger...now calm down. Although, addressing me as "Boy" was nice given my age. Kuddos! Back to topic...uhmm, yes...a BS Obama-like symbol is what I see. BTW, there is no evidence supporting ANY logical pursuit towards fixing a thing in this country. Nothing he's pursued can be supported mathematically to solve anything other than taking us ALL down to the....bottom. Social equality for all!
eyemavol01 1 year ago
@McSwagger830 Why is it you Obamatard-libs always talk about Bush to defend The Messiah? If you're right, and Bush was the worst president ever, does that justify the Teleprompter turning this country into a Socialist, or Marxist state? Move to Cuba, why don't you, if you like Socialism so much... It's a short trip, and you'll have great cigars. Unfortunately, you won't be able to afford them.
Majorcue 1 year ago
@eyemavol01: Uh-huh, and our highways loose $18 billion per year and our airports loose $15 billion. You're way off. Amtrak (you might want to spell it properly next time) doesn't even get $1 billion per year from Federal Funding. Comparing Amtrak's current services to High Speed Rail is absolutely preposturous.
gibb1991 1 year ago
@gibb1991: My apologies....I've not had the opportunities to get close enough to one of the trains in order to confirm the correct spelling. I hope I didn't "Loose" any respect over this small oversight?
eyemavol01 1 year ago
@eyemavol01: My apologies for the typo.
gibb1991 1 year ago
More revenue for our City
assert 2 years ago
I just cannot believe that CaliforniaTARDS voted for light rail. Well then again, maybe I can. If you think the USPS and Amtrak are STINKING BLUE ELEPHANTS that lose money each year, you aint seen nothin yet. The cost for the line from San Fran to LA is supposed to cost....what, 40 billion? And it is not allowed to use any public money to build..HAHA! When it is running, the private company running it will get a GAURANTEED rider level per year (government subsidy), or at least that is the rumor.
tickyul 2 years ago
now thinkabout it, Amtrak has piss 23 Billions of money to stay allive and upgrade for the tracks, the government almost put the amtrak out of buisness for good in 2002 because there weren't making a profets, so its time to start investing for a better rail system, Caltrain is one of the best rail system in the U.S.
sideslide23 1 year ago
@sideslide23: Problem is Rail has a hard time just breaking even. This line is going to cost at least 100 billion ( no way 50 billion will cover costs). This huge amount of money is a total drag on the system. It will be very hard to pay for this system without very high fares OR THE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZING the hell out of each trip........BLEEECH!
tickyul 1 year ago
there talking about just having the HSR go from L.A. to San Jose istead of all the way to San fransisco because of Palo Alto so if people want to go to SF they'll have to make connection with the Caltrain in San Jose and take it all the way to SF or eliminate the baby bullet express and put the High speed train on the existing caltrain tracks and operat at low speed of 80 MPH
sideslide23 1 year ago
Indeed, I have heard of plans to simply use the CalTrain route as the spur up to San Fran; especially as it is being electrified with the correct equipment to allow that to happen, and eliminating several grade crossings. It seems a likely shortcut to save money on the initial, plus I would count on the speeds being raised somewhat with more refitting. If they were to build a dedicated spur line, it'd probably be more sensible to build it as a later 'extension' rather than in the base system.
s2k997 1 year ago
@sideslide: That is all well an fine, BUT, to make a true high speed system it would cost a ton of money just to grade that terrain. Hopefully they scale it down so it will be LESS of a drag on California. Ciao!
tickyul 1 year ago
This would be great addition to the Sacramento city, it has so much potential, I'm surprised we aren't jumping onto this idea!
SacramentoLawyers 2 years ago 3
Didn't a huge bond measure pass to get this thing done? It will never happen. The finds from the measure will end up just like every other California taxpayer dollar, in some black hole or to pay the salaries of some administrative assistants making $70,000 to process mountains of paperwork back and forth between bureaucrats. The levy improvements and highway improvement bonds? Still haven't seen much work done on those areas. Schools are in pisspoor shape. That is the state of California.
jpete3027666 2 years ago
@JJ388JAr you're calling this person a dumbass and you turn around and generalize all Americans as being dumbasses, go fuck yourself moron
jpete3027666 2 years ago 21
Thank you so much for this reply. We're all applauding you, in this room here. :)
pleezgetalife 2 years ago 3
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Sacramento is so gay
hybridtruth916 2 years ago
This really needs to happen. AMTRAK SUCKS
halo2windows 2 years ago 2
personally agree because Amtrak is the slowest transit in C.A. Greyhound bus and privat Cars goes faster than Amtrak because Amtrak always comes late, it hit every station and it end in Bakerfield so you have to take the Throughway bus. Caltrain is the best train in California.
sideslide23 2 years ago
very true because Amtrak have piss 23 billions of dollar to stay alive and upgrade their routs. and Amtrak should get their own right away so they don't share with freight rail like Caltrain has their own right away.
sideslide23 1 year ago
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@JJ388JAr fucking idiot
whitedahlia420 2 years ago
Its in the Northern part of California, the capital...
KevinKGan 2 years ago 11
Sorry libtards, you'll never get European style infrastructure and open borders. You can have one or the other, and you made your choice.
Leadwerks 2 years ago
High speed trains in Sac, right! they would have to completely replace the rail system, even the train operators are afraid to go over 60mph, slower on a hot day.
sniper152 2 years ago
How many IOUs does a train like that consume?
Talk about alternative fuels.
awksedgreep 2 years ago
i,m from south park colorado
pimpdaddy101ful 2 years ago
The building project includes a brand new skyline! Amazing!
matador859 2 years ago
@matador
hahaha no shit
Thawatawata 2 years ago
apparently this isnt a speed train, the buildings are being constructed and finished while the train is still finishing one trip!
superzsr 2 years ago 2
@superzsr suck my hairy dick bitc
MrEiriku 4 months ago
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sacs the shit. do what you gotta do. miss my home hope its a lil the same when i get ther.
free2beone 2 years ago
how long is this ganna take?
amaster49 2 years ago
they should be starting between 2011 or 2012, and will be open for passenger in 2020
sideslide23 2 years ago
Its Coming its coming because there Working on the Station right now, there digging under the building, across the street from the Publice parking Garadge.
sideslide23 2 years ago
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Sacramento's too ghetto for anytthing transforming like this to happen here.
Sac is a hot, smoggy shithole with the trashiest people imaginable that live here. How can a city that's so sunny be so depressing??
store275 2 years ago
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this fuls a bitch. Sacs the shit. dont need to be changed but shit happens. its the capitol of cali bitch. wher you from? so cal..
free2beone 2 years ago
ALl I need to know is WHEN? I bike by the site all the time I love living in downtown!!
AlekVicious 2 years ago 2
Nice 3D!
T2norway 2 years ago
they should upgrade old sac to
rmartinez8176 2 years ago
No they shouldn't, because that is a part of Sac's history foo...
SubZer089 2 years ago
lol i agree with you, i miss sac town, never thought i'd say that
rmartinez8176 2 years ago
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straight up. these fuls dont kno shit about sac
free2beone 2 years ago
Wow sacramento just got interesting? I must be dreaming
redwingryders 2 years ago
southwest airlines and others are throwing too much money to kill this project.
hardcoremofo 2 years ago 5
They were the ones that killed the planned Texas HSR system and helped to kill Florida's plan, just because they were afraid of a bit of competition. Well suck it up Southwest! It's a dog eat dog world and you're acting like the little pup trying to be a wolf. You can't keep on attempting to kill HSR projects. Public support for these systems are growing fast and you won't be able to stop that momentum.
poseidoncambria 2 years ago 2
I hope I get to see the new metropolis Sac before I die. Looks very interesting. Anything for the betterment of Sacramento then I'm all for it. I love my hometown so much!!
SactoLoner 2 years ago
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StaYUTI420 2 years ago
Are you talking about yourself?
airjor1 2 years ago
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StaYUTI420 2 years ago
lol yea right
KEEPitLIT916 2 years ago
Never mind now. It's not going to happen since California is on the very edge of Bankruptcy. Because CA's congress didn't pass a proper budget, the state's credit rating will be lowered to Junk-Bond status...i.e. NO way of ever funding this project! The good news is they'll STILL find a way to pay for welfare, section-8 housing, food stamps, child care, college aid, pre-K to 12 schooling, breakfast-lunch programs, prison housing, etc. etc. etc. for the 16+ MILLION ILLEGAL aliens in our state.
WayOvertaxed 2 years ago 2
you really are a buzzkill. try to stay on topic. i would make a bet you don't even live in CA
mediaxpuppet 2 years ago
the future of sactown
esoj916 2 years ago
Freeways are massively expensive and justify the continued abuse of personal vehicles, along the proposed train corridor. They are trying to develop a transport centric population, to reduce urban sprawl . Such a large infrastructure project will create thousands of jobs during construction and operation, and I would be certain that they would target employment from areas that require urban renewal. The tourist potential of HSR would be enormous, especially if you route it near DisneyLand.
hbb8672 2 years ago 5
they will go by Disney land, because I saw the station in Anaheim very cool
sideslide23 2 years ago
Which high-speed train, do you think, is more suitable for the California, Shinkansen or TGV?
Aobasakura 2 years ago 2
Shinkansen for fast acceleration unless they modify a TGV with bogies for the cars except the ends.
mugshotesp 2 years ago
The AGV! Accelerates like a Shinkansen, maintains a high-speed like a TGV.
poseidoncambria 2 years ago
Good question, and how about the german ICE3/Velaro, long tested in Germany, now proving its success at high speed in Spain between Madrid en Barcelona?
I would guess the Shinkansen accelerates faster (more stops, closer cities), but does that mean they are slower or less reliable on long distance? I'm not sure. Anyone with facts is welcome ;)
As for AGV, it still is a test train, so I wouldn't bet on it just yet ;)
peterbabymc 2 years ago
You could probably build a modified N700 for 350 km/h design speed since the U.S. does not have as strict of noise guidelines as Japan. Taiwan did that with the 700T and that can go up to 315 km/h
mugshotesp 2 years ago 4
How well that would do in an earthquake remains to be seen. It also remains to be seen how willing they would be to do a technology transfer as they did with China for the CRH3- part of the appeal of HSR in California is that it would restart the manufacturing industry.
yangj08 2 years ago
Sacramento wont get a direct blow from a major earthquake. the most people in sad would feel is probably a 3.0-4.0? Its a valley, sac isn't near a major fault line.
DjxRavex 2 years ago
Yes, but you might also want to consider the rest of the state that the line runs on, right?
yangj08 2 years ago
Sweet ima mac lol
McClover 2 years ago 2
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!
I live in sacramento and everything you said is just bull shit!
I bet you just got fired huh... Still living with mom?
I thought so ^_^
McClover 2 years ago 4
I used to Live in Fresno CA I've lived there for 19 years but now were living in Phoenix AZ :(
sideslide23 2 years ago
I especially love how it's built so far into the future that the skyscrapers have gotten taller...
I love the idea of the train, I just don't think it'll happen any time in my lifetime :(
scarwolf 2 years ago
Yeah, isn't is amazing that Sacramento will instantly grow because of this train system? How naive is that!
Amar7605 2 years ago
i like the new rail
ajp42109 2 years ago
nice
corcom2007 2 years ago
when will this start
and when will it finish
can someone please tell me
9pluto 2 years ago
i can tell you this 9pluto, my great-great grandfather was the telegrapher and station agent for the southern pacific rr back in 1919 in Brighton Cal.- a town that doesn't exist anymore- it was this town that became the Sacramento Train station and look how much it's grown, how far we have become since. Cheer up!
kimmarie801 2 years ago
Cool. A new place for the homeless to hang out!!
RobertGary1 2 years ago
When do you think it will look like that?
ryanman1987 2 years ago
Never. :) It'll end up looking completely different than what the planners envision, it always does.
adronhall 2 years ago
reminds me of Croydon England.
viewson800 2 years ago
I like it, but the trees are bigger than that.
Inazumaha 2 years ago
@Inazumaha your dick is tooo small butch
MrEiriku 1 year ago
@MrEiriku lmao epic youube reply fail
MrExit15 10 months ago
@Inazumaha your dick is tooo small bitch
MrEiriku 1 year ago
I agree with both of you: ChelseaM2323 & jasonbobbymiller,
Empty Space/Buildings near the tracks can make for use as a Maintenence Shed/Facilty for HSR Trains. Including traing for HSR. That in itself can create 100'000's of permanant jobs total at sites like those across the country
I hear Obama in creating Jobs, but he does NOT hear people like you and I demanding "Cross Country HSR".
THAT alone guarantees 100,000's of jobs before the first train gets Built/Tested.
Modeltrainguy 3 years ago
We don't have enough money on the planet to run HSR across this entire nation. Aside from that it isn't a very intelligent way environmentally or economically to do so... 500 mile corridors is the max HSR should be used on. When you have to exceed that it's better to fly. - economically and environmentally.
adronhall 2 years ago
We have the money. It IS feasable.
Major Cities/Towns have 'Designated' stations for trains to serve. THAT is the Express Train.
Stations not served by HSR is served by Local Service Trains. THOSE trains are so utilized connecting stations where HSR trains do serve.
Check out the TGV Video "Speed & Fog". Planes often don't fly in that.
Japan & France proved HSR is possible.
Planning 25+ years ago would have had HSR over most of the USA. Ronald Reagan was wrong to say "NO".
Modeltrainguy 2 years ago
i dont know about a ligh rail
TrainzMaster3000 3 years ago
I lol'd at the little yellow train.
SforzandoFilms 3 years ago
I love how they show the empty space that was the old rail yard by the river! The city has got to decide what to do with that eyesore area already! I was born in Sac and it's always been a dump right there. I really hope we get the high speed rail going soon. Sacramento is already ahead of LA with the light-rail as far as public transport goes... I love 916!!!
ChelseaM2323 3 years ago
I'm was also born there and I live there now, i wish the city would improve that area with something usefull. Same with K Street but the owner of all those buildings along K street won't improve them.
jasonbobbymiller 3 years ago
What about getting around when you arrive at your destination? One advantage that can work well, if it can be figured out, is that if the trains can be equipped with auto-transport cars. That way, passengers can take their vehicles with them to their destinations and drive them there. It's similar to freight trains carrying semi-truck trailers or sea ferries.
Amar7605 3 years ago
Or you could make use of light rail and public transport.
seth4404 2 years ago
True, but only if public transportation can get you exactly where you need to go and you have to know what the local scheduling is. For many people, they don't have time to constantly check public transportation schedules.
Amar7605 2 years ago
So instead they go and get lost in their car and then finally find the place they're going and spend 20 minutes parking...
...blagh blagh blagh, excuses excuses...
adronhall 2 years ago
yeah but not that many people are like that. Be realistic. This will be a waste of billions of dollars. Whevever government gets involved in something like this, it tends to fail. Why aren't any private companies proposing high-speed rail lines? Because there's no public demand for it!
Amar7605 2 years ago
HELLO!!! Haven't you ever heard of the DesertXpress project?! It's a planned, completely PRIVATELY FUNDED HSR project going from Las Vegas to Southern California. It's set to break ground in early 2010!
poseidoncambria 2 years ago
The reason why this project may be successful is because Las Vegas and Southern California are tourist destinations. I'll bet that they'll be more tourists riding this train than Southern Cal/Las Vegas locals.
Amar7605 2 years ago
how exciting :) in 30 years, no more crusing on highway 15 to Las Vegas nor spending $250 for a round trip airline ticket from Fresno to las Vegas.
sideslide23 2 years ago
woah when exactly are they thinking of this being built? 2015?
PINKluvr01 3 years ago
The 1 Hour PBS TV Program "NOVA", highlighted the VERY plan to bring Bullet Trains to California:
"Tracking The Supertrains"
While America's passenger-train service deteriorates, trains in Japan and Europe are speeding ahead at over 150 miles per hour.
NOVA reports that the super-fast trains are finally coming to America.
Original broadcast date: 12/14/82
Topic: technology/engineering"
With then Ronald Reagan in office 1980-1988, HSR never happened. 1 reason: He hated Amtrak.
Modeltrainguy 3 years ago 2
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WEZZYBABII95 3 years ago
i dont want to ride a train
i want to look like an idiot stuck in traffic in my HUMMER
watching the gas guage needle go down as i idle the engine
im willing to sell my soul just to buy gas for my Hummer!
emforty2 3 years ago
lol
marsahmars 3 years ago
As much as Californians want High Speed Rail...I hope it happens soon. Not JUST for California, but for America as a whole. Look at other countries that have HSR:
Japan - The size of California.
South Korea - About the same size as Minnesota.
Spain - Slightly more than twice the size of Oregon.
France - slightly less than double the size of Colorado.
Taiwan - Slightly larger than the states of Maryland & Delaware combined.
Think about it...THOUSANDS of American jobs!
Modeltrainguy 3 years ago 5
Don't get me wrong. I love mass transit. But a couple reasons those countries have such extensive train systems is that they are 1) small 2) have much higher population density than the US and 3) have large subsidies to their national and private rail systems.
Grak70 3 years ago
I agree.
However, the massive Rail project America needs, can still be done. The Tax Dollars that should be paid by those Corporates given Tax Breaks - giving them up to BILLIONS in savings - can be used to help pay for the Mega rail project.
Also, other corporates - if I am right about t