Wing Tsjun - Chi Sao (www.wingtsjun.com)

[ironchun]

Anyone who says I'd just shoot you is a puss. What's to say the Chun guy doesn't have a gun too?? I think he'd be able to draw his gun a little faster than you. Why cop out and not learn a skill instead of trying to destroy it cause your afraid?

[blitziminator]

Very nice....like Ip Man :-)

[billsilvestrini]

never include kick becouse is exercise.. and with kick the train will be dangerous.

[videosdatreta]

What's the "key word" of this? "Sensitivity"?

[CrunkAadict]

das schaut mal geil aus!!!!

[TheDano1947]

It's clear here who has the better focus, the dude in black seems to be looking off to the side and getting hit more because of it. surely a good lesson to take into consideration.

[NubianFist]

During Chi Sau there r leg movements known as sticky legs. Its a sequence of movements designed to trap your opponents leg by sweeps and attacking behind the knee for safety of course however it trains you to attack the lower half of the body while attacking the upper half. All extremities r trained to move on there own.

[adamwingchun]

nice chi sau

[th3warr1or]

I have a question; Why does Chi Sao never include kicking? I know Chi-Sao means sticky HANDS, but I mean like, (i know it's probably not that easy to kick you) these videos show the hands, but the legs aren't doing anything. In fights, someone wouldn't be just standing there, right? (I'm not criticizing it, just genuinely curious why kicks aren't part of the training)

[WingTsjun]

@th3warr1or

Chi Sao has its main focus on the hands and arms, hence the name sticky hands. However, kicks do exist in the higher wooden dummy Chi Sao sections. In free Chi Sao sparring you won´t see it though because the distance the practitioners have during Poon Sao (the beginning stage of Chi Sao) is closer than kicking distance and unless the opponents have constant leg contact, it would not be possible to effectively defend against a kick.

Hope this helps:-)

[ManDown57]

@WingTsjun "it would not be possible to effectively defend against a kick." which makes it even more "necessary"to use a kick, step on the opponent's foot or kick his "balls", his knee.but this is just practice here, in this video and another thing why isn't it used in MMa, freefight and UFC, i mean, is it unefficient?forbidden? you see, the opponent strikes 1 or 2 punches, you block with 1 hand and strike with the other one or both hands at the same time, idk, iù no pro, just wondering...

[Hateyaall]

@th3warr1or there is also sticky legs and i guess if you try you can do chi sao and sticky legs but you will not be able to move

[WingTsjun]

@Hateyaall It limits you in many moves yes but it it nevertheless a great tool to gain control over the opponent´s whole body

[ps3nikola]

@th3warr1or cause it does come from wing chun wich is close combat so it is pretty hard to kick the only kick you can do it´s to the groin

[TheDano1947]

@th3warr1or Leg Chi Sao does but it's slower and harder to master and doesn't look as impressive. I've done leg Chi Sao and walked away with bruised shins a natural consequence of leg Chi Sao because of the increased power and lack of control, it's easier to slip up or misjudge range.

[katamaranli]

@th3warr1or

Your hands are your primary weapons in Wing-Chun. Of course you can use your legs to defend yourself or you can kick your opponent at any distance. Chi-sao has leg moves and kicks, but it is the subject of the advanced level of training, and you must concentrate to the hand moves firstly. And, sorry for my bad english :D

[BeatPusher303]

@th3warr1or Leg training is called Chi Gerk, check it out.

[FUNHATPRODS]

@th3warr1or Traditional Wing Chun has Kicking. It sometimes depends on the sifu.

[Thedreamshaperabc]

@th3warr1or

I learned (and agree) that kicking that close would be against the principles, the principle being always to push forward into an opponent (ie. chain punching). If he was to raise one leg while i was doing that.. well you try standing on one leg while someone standing on two tries punching you 5-10 times per second and walkning through you. (The oponent would fall, or certainly his kick wouldnt be very dangerous).

Before making contact however, kicks are dangerous i think!

[singhakabuttar]

@th3warr1or in my opinion, chi sao is a sensitivity drill, its not suppose to emmulate a fight, i mean who ever starts a fight with there arms touching, when practicing fighting drils there are kicks to the knees, the hips,waist, which are practiced full force on the dummy, chi sao builds up your sensitivity in the arms, helps with maintaining your centre of gravity, also teaches not to push to far forward without consequences, when contact is broken you can use legs, some people do!!!

[sjeffe32]

@th3warr1or Relevant question. And to the same point. Dont you expose your groin at all time. ? And if yes, what is the relevant WT block for af kick directly to the groins?....By the way....Good video...

[beejdee]

@th3warr1or

Of course in a fight you would use kicks, but chi sao is predominantly a hand exercise. There wouldnt be much chi sao if you could just kick each other. So to focus on the hands you take out kicking.

[josejaser]

he can bitchslap anyone everywhere anytime

[metalmechanix]

I have a questione for you: is it possible to improve sensitivity exircising with pre-established movement and without pressure?

[DonMega187]

@metalmechanix pressure or not, only when there is free flowing attacks of various strength and speed does it truly develop the reaction speed. in chi sao it's important to notice both are practicing their wing chun movements. as soon other one derives from the protective movements of wing chun to something another stylists would use the wing chun man should detect this weakness (even with eyes closed) immediately attacking any strength/speed he chooses to,lightning speed or knockout power

[atotzink]

some good wing chun (or how ever you wanna call it)!

nice chi sao. the blonde dude is ligthningt fast!

[atotzink]

some good wing chun (or ving tsun or wing tsjun or how ever you wanna call it)!

nice chi sao. the blonde dude is ligthningt fast!

[DANTHETUBEMAN]

why does the other guy drop his hands for the 10000 hits?

other than that thay look vary smooth and flowing

[DonMega187]

@DANTHETUBEMAN it's the practise method. basically the other guy gives 1 attack, and it's the other guy's job to guide it away and attack simultaneously. after the first attack has landed it creates a path of attacks to flow through. it's quite dangerous to practise to resist at this moment as u try to lift up your hands it'll lift the other guy's strikes easily towards your face. if he also has good control of the arm structure it's not that fast or easy to return back to defending stance

[kimcheolho]

I don't it. How the hell can anyone become so damn fast????? All wingtsun people seem to be fucking fast.

[kimcheolho]

Very good.

[colaFRank]

The blond dude has a lovely style imo.

[obeydaone]

thommy... you are a freak! :P I'm fuckin impressed

[wttomi]

very nice,and very good.Ty

[SIFUGNU]

Oder auch nicht (wie man sieht:-)

[B3rZ3rK3rOzelot]

DANIELE MACRI RULEZZZZ

[mxgb]

great vid sifu! would be great if you could put up some videos of some of the chi sao techniques you used(in slow-mo for us mortals please!).

[atotzink]

@mxgb lol, your sifu is indeed lightning fast :)

nice wing tsjun!

[wildboyz322]

finally something faster than just one hit after another

other videos are just one hit...pause...another hit...pause...

[creativemetalworker]

I might suggest trying going slower on occasion to get more precise at controlling the other's structure, and perhaps less emphasis on speed and striking. Not much opportunity to listen kinesthetically when going so fast. My Sifu always has us slow down and relax,work on 2nd and 3rd section control with no need for speed to control the partner's structure. They are doing a good drill in this video, but straying a bit from the principles. Moving too fast equals sloppiness,Sifu always says.

[kimcheolho]

@creativemetalworker What makes you think you are in a position to criticize a person who has probably trained 5 times longer than you?

[GUFF21]

Don't know who that master is but he looks great...

[KeVeNT64DSCW120]

thats.. awesome,,XD

[99whiteman]

Joking you guys are amazing :)

[99whiteman]

id just shoot you . " I win "

[WingTsjun]

@99whiteman: Yeah, probably hahaha!

[DonMega187]

@99whiteman this sort of chi sao practise is limited in a way, so shooting is like breaking the rules of the game. you'd be disqualified for shooting a boxer in a boxing competition wouldn't you? wing chun has methods of dealing with takedowns, but consider it rather a more evolved way of boxing, so it's rather a competition style with thaiboxing, karate etc standup fighting methods. rather than to wrestling or jiujitsu or other grappling arts. but you may apply some takedowns for wing chun also

[TerranTinoPacino]

Nice Example!

[Peekingduck]

Amazing !

It's so smooth the flow becomes almost intoxicating to watch.

Thanks for uploading this.

A rare treat indeed.

[holyzecke]

i have trained with both of them :D

[xdlabax]

great just great!

[didgemonster]

AMAZING!! ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!

[sihingdavid]

Bom... Muito bom!

[errico78]

very, very well, regards from barcelona (spain)

[WingTsjun]

MegaBulletHead: The source is Wing Chun. The spelling has marketing reasons to differentiate the styles and teaching methods from each other.

[MegaBulletHead]

Why is it called wing tsjun and not wing tsun or wing chun???

[ninjart68]

ce chi sao est vraiment excellent, j'ai encore beacuoup de travail !!!

[bosse01]

why is it always that one of the two dominates the other in chi sao. I have a few videos of chi sao and its always one guy dominating the other

[WingTsjun]

What you see here is a flexibility training for the arms. In the beginning of the clip you see a set choreography, a so-called section. By interacting within the section the student slowly learns to react on attacks from various angles. Afterward the guys pick up the speed and get into so-called "free" Chi-Sao, where each partner attempts to "feel" a gap in the opponent´s technique and to attack while the partner tries to parry by "giving way" without flexing his muscles. Hope that helped...

[ChaoticGodz]

hmm I could not understand this but could someone please explain me what are they doing ?. it seems cool but I don't know if one guy is trying to punch the other while the other have to block all of his punches. I have never once taking martial arts classes so don't blame me

[TeamSmex]

thanks

[TeamSmex]

who ever said that the taller one normally wins has no idea about how wing chun actualy functions. i CBA to explain but if someone else is willing to then go ahead( and please be someone who actually knows about wing chun)

[khinsau]

Height or strength is of NO advantage when doing Chi Sao. The person with the best technique, who is most relaxed during the chi sao rolling is the most effective as they can anticipate their opponents move by feeling the sensitivity in the forearms. When relaxed, the movements can be done efficiently and at your max speed. Also keeping the elbows as close to the centre line is very IMPORTANT (about 2 fist distance away from the chest) to protect your centre. Practice all 4 gates!

[e82020820]

I observed many cases, the taller one usually wins.

[emiliosucio]

Great job!!!!very speed wing chun

[superhumansight]

great experimentation but lacking in horse. in my school the 'non strikes' like yours at the throat are supposed to lead into actual strikes at the center. we usually feel that the roll isn't over until someone has validated with 3 solid strikes and moved the opponent back one step or more with the horse.

great coordination and sensitivity though.

[pawulonnnnnnn]

good job

[chinesekenpohapkido]

very good chi sao, and very good speed and targeting

[liltrak12]

this is some serious shit. i also like Jeet Kun Do, and the 12 steps of Chung Choi

[VestatViola]

great style, great speed and... amazing respect.

Really good stuff.

[grenpeter1]

Good stuff! Like the man saus!!

[Partclman]

Good speed and control of force. Structure looks pretty sound too. Too bad there's no trapping employed though.

[jaydoj]

very fast hands. I can't wait to start my Wing Chun classes...

[Necratos]

they are both sifu from MAI. the blond one actually is one of the founders. pretty old movie.. the blond is the sifu of the black haired (my former sifu) - in this club they spell it "WT (WingTsjun)"

[kinstar]

@jaydoj i know same here i really wanna join classes now but just need to find a good place 

[milkingtherod]

to answer the last comment...i had someone use this technique on me about 20 years ago...(long story short, it was a case of race-mistaken identity)..the moves were so fast I froze, and the next thing I knew I was on the ground with an extremely sore face, next and chest...been studying wing chun ever since...Now - not to argue styles, or street fighting-techniques..but if you can use powerful wing chun with speed and surprise...you can really effectively disable an opponent, and quickly escape.

[DemoScener]

I believe it, some days ago a classmate chalanged me he tought he could kick my ass but the funny part is in WC you always train with a mate and when you train he attacks you towards your nose. When my classmate wanted to attack me with his fist I could get him in the choke position. Its amazing how people 100ths year ago could make such a powerfull system. WC is worth your money for sure.

[corndog125nalald]

Why is it that when one man ineshiates an attack the other is not defending or deflecting or counter attacking, he is just droping his hands?

[dragenzX]

Lookin pretty clean. nice vid =)

[micheleWT]

nice chi sao video! I know many people that met Boeling here with sifu A.Fong. Everybody told me he is a nice person, really open.

[ScorpiusRaven]

exceptionally well coordinated. great reflexes.

[gosoku2]

Nice job!

[jayrperiod]

fast hands...jeez

[warrior1tiger]

hi sifu from turkey this best of best video

[wazdanui]

nice video, great chi-sao, sifu Boehlig rules.