[The Phoenix LB R6] Dart (Cloud) vs Herman (Sephiroth) - M3

[SilverRossier]

Spamming is allowed in tourneys, and there's nothing wrong in using the same tactics again and again as long as it works.

But its usually discouraged for 3 main reasons.

1) You get haters from the "more honourable" player who value "sportsmanship". We usually don't have to care.

2) Using the same tactics will eventually expose our weakness, like how Dart did against Herman.

3) We're not adapting our gameplay according to situation. Would you still use a gun when the enemy went into a tank?

[Anemite]

so that how u stop a spammer

[Gormaoul]

Lol, this is like so true to the FFVII script it almost feels out of place in the tourney :P Gotta say I saved my first replay where I omni's Sephiroth too though haha.

[hermanovich177]

someone can tell me why when i do it my i assist block lvl 2,and heaven light,he could dodge it,that's why i loose,i use my assist for punish him but everytime he dodge it :s

[sepirothfreak999]

@hermanovich177 You weren't doing it quick enough, don't dodge out when you use the level 2 assist change, just use heavens light. Also drop the yuna assist and use kuja assist, she really isn't a match for sephiroth. Kuja is sephiroth's best assist.

[Narolfissidia]

@sepirothfreak999

He was partaking in the assist-challenge...

[sepirothfreak999]

@Narolfissidia Might as well have used somebody else.

[AxeeeeLx]

@hermanovich177 you would've lost anyways... dart was outplaying you... period.

[hermanovich177]

@AxeeeeLx

LOOOOL

yes sorry axeeeel,i forget it

you have the power for know it ,what will be happening in the future if i make it heaven light

[AxeeeeLx]

@hermanovich177 or im just wise enough to see that your low-level sephiroth play wouldve been outclassed by dart...?

[RavenCarver]

Hmmmm, Cloud vs Sephiroth, Planet's Core, with OWA playing as the BGM. Makes me think of when I beat FF7 for the first time.

..... I don't remember there being that much Shadow Flare spam.

[verinenpihvi]

herman's sephiroth disgusts me. well played dart.

[Narolfissidia]

@verinenpihvi

Whose Sephiroth doesn't disgust you?

[verinenpihvi]

@Narolfissidia that's a pretty good question.

[WingsofLightandDark]

Damn. Cloud wasn't in the mood for Sephiroth's mind games.

[billiamspeer]

good matches to both!

[majicalways]

Oh such beautiful ownage of spamming Sephiroth. The only reason I watch matches with Sephiroth is to hope to GOD they lose. Dart, that is the most dominating I've seen of the Cloud - Sephiroth MU. KUDOS!!

[sepirothfreak999]

@majicalways Guess I'm the only one who wasn't oblivious to the double cut spam (no offense dart you wrecked herman's shit), this double standard is obvious in every video.

[AxeeeeLx]

@sepirothfreak999 spamming double cut isnt as stupid as spamming a safe ranged, no-cooldown move that puts pressure and sets up combos.

your analogy is retarded and so are you.

[sepirothfreak999]

@AxeeeeLx wouldn't spamming shadow flare be smarter the way you put it? Dumbass. Anyway the premise was everyone spams but people will complain about seph if it's a large or small amount.

[AxeeeeLx]

@sepirothfreak999 im listing the qualities that make shadow flare completely different from spamming a melee move that doesnt place large amounts of pressure on the opponent, which you clearly dont seem to understand.

your "premise" is completely irrelevant considering shadow flare spam places pressure safely, can link to combos, shuts certain characters down, and is one of the fastest methods to gain assist in the game. you clearly dont understand why people complain about SF. you're an idiot.

[sepirothfreak999]

@AxeeeeLx How are you going to change my original premise then call me an idiot because you're trying to make it about something it isn't. That makes you the moron here for not getting it. The fact you have to place so much emphasis on calling me moronic in some way form in every message shows your own ignorance, but everyone already knows you're a dick. Personally I don't care about people bitching about shadow flare, at all. Herman would have done better if he wasn't in the assist challenge.

[AxeeeeLx]

@sepirothfreak999 all you did in your "premise" was state the obvious; people have reason to bitch about SF. everybody has the ability to spam for assist; SF just places pressure way too well. i didnt change your original premise in the slightest; again, all i did was list what makes moves like DC and SF on different levels. bitching about sephiroth spam is justified; you cant hardly do anything about it. nobody cares about spamming for assist because thats how the game plays.

[sepirothfreak999]

@AxeeeeLx "Don't hate the player hate the game" and you proved that statement by saying "no one cares about spamming for assist because that's how the game is played." Why hate sephiroth because he is better at gaining assist than the majority of the cast? It's a sephiroth users fault that his "spam for assist" move is also great for pressure?

[Narolfissidia]

@sepirothfreak999

People hate on Sephiroth ever since 1997. Being a badass isn't easy.

Don't forget that.

[sepirothfreak999]

@AxeeeeLx admittedly you should have thought through the assist you were going to use before you signed up for the challenge herman. The point is spam is spam yet there is a double standard as to "ugh i'm so tired of seeing shadow flare." Why is there no "Ugh I'm tired of seeing double cut, I only watch cloud fights to hope that double cut spamming asshole loses." Seems more like people are bitching about sephiroth not the spam.

[monkeysoulz]

Outplayed.

[MithosFall]

Loving the Legend of Dragoon music.

[XZoneCiderpowered]

oh man, 3:00 onwards I just had to mute it and play Doom Motivational Gameplay in the background. This is DART giving a fuck.

[Ginkaze003]

@XZoneCiderpowered <-----this

sephiroth: B-b-b-BASTARD!!!!!

[TheLostSabre]

I guess with the help of Tidus, Cloud now has two safe HPA to use out of a assist combo?

Beauty. ; )