ECF Velo-city conference

[mpromber]

I think the footage of this video is quite ironic. A lot of it shows the cycle paths along Ludwigstr/ Leopoldstr in Munich. I used to cycle there regularly - they are far too narrow for safe overtaking of another cyclist, and as you can see in the video, often peds wander into your path. Fine for slow/leisure cycling, but really painful if you want to get somewhere. Unfortunately, you are not allowed to ride on the wide two-lane road, given that cyclepaths are obligatory in Germany.

[brusselmkg]

The thing that is good about separate paths/ lanes is that people feel welcome, cared for, and in some instances they give cyclists priority. So they can boost cycling, and through *Safety in numbers* boost safety. But a usable network of segregated facilities is not a prerequisite for cycling promotion, unlike what the Copenhagen mayor seemed to say. One can start with e.g. traffic calming and training cyclists and motorists for coexistence.

[dalospet]

I share your thoughts brusselmkg! Segregation of transports modes are not the way to make the network safer.

[brusselmkg]

Very nice video. I think that the Copenhagen mayor is wrong when he gives the impression that cylepaths and cycle lanes are the only way forward. Safety in numbers, traffic calming,training and a clear message on "share the road" seem to be at least as well founded in science as a basis for increasing cycling and safety.