The Tea Party has some good ideas and opinions but they messed up by collaborating with the Republicans who used them to win power and cause the gridlock were seeing now. The T-Party and the Occupy movement actually have a lot on common and think they have the potential to be additional parties to the current democracy,,,but the T-Party needs to stop with the racist stuff.
I dont care what anyone says. The Tea Party/ Republicans have some racist undertones. I have watched enough news and followed enough politics to see that. They voted in the likes of Boehner, Walsh, Brewer and Walker who all campaigned on stoking fear/ disrespect toward Obama. Boehner and McConnel promise to make Obama "a one term president" the fameous "YOU LIE" by Joe Wilson (A staunch Tea Party Republican) and the Birther Movement that fully supported Sen. Bachmann.
Oh and Sorry i forgot to mention please read up on facts. -_- 2,000 pages? A very large exaggeration. Also the Tea-Party i will not say they are racist because as a whole their not against a race and only parts of members of the tea party are racist this is the same for all parties. Before I go any further id really enjoy for us to speak more apon this subjects or an subject for that matter. You seem intelligent but as you do I must try to provide a few critiques :P
Asking the TEA party to condemn racism is like asking all scifi fans what they thought of star trek. How will you even know you have an answer when not even Republicans have a leader?
Progressives do not really believe we Tea Party people are psychotic. They see us as real threats because we are on to their game. Our message of small government, personal responsibility and personal strength is a huge threat to their doctrine of personal dependence upon government -- therefore, they call us names.
Give this man a talk show! He's got all the fast-talking indignation that we look for in a talking head. With a nice suit and an expensive haircut he could really go places.
What does 0.25 to 2.55 have to do with Tea Party Racism? This guy feels little regard for viewers. He misleads us all. Why should we take anything else he says seriously. Also he has a panicked way about him. I think he is motivated by terrible fear.
i got to say, i don't agree, but i keep watching, because you seem rational, and there for a good example of the rational arguments that i usually oppose, i enjoy you videos, you seem smart, i'll fact check later, and make my final opinion then,
One thing I've always wanted to ask the Tea Party, why don't they call themselves libertarians? It seems to fit with their idea of a smaller government. I'm serious, not trying to start an argument. Libertarians have been around a lot longer, are more established, why a new party?
@ejhdigdug i think we actually dodged a bullet. i mean i'm sure there are very nice, rational tea party ppl. but many are not. and so far people see libertarians and tea party memebers as separate. being separate doesn't mean they can't work together...
@ejhdigdug Because libertarians, - whether right or left, capitalist or socialist - support unhindered personal freedom of the individual in keeping with John Stewart Mill's harm principle.
The tea party however, have no problem with the state intruding into people's personal lives as long as it doesn't intervene in the economy.
They want the state to dictate for them about sex, sexuality, a women's right to choose what to do with her own body, what god to pray to, and other fascistic positions.
@MsSexySocialist Hate is such a dumbed down and overused phrase by liberals, that it means nothing other than "you disagree with me and I don't like it." Nothing else.
@ejhdigdug The Tea Party is a conservative-ish movement. Ask them about cutting social security or medicare and they will cut you. They're conservative on social issues and are pretty hawkish on foreign policy. The original Tea Party comprised of Ron Paul supporters in 07/08 was libertarian, but these folks are just Republicans/Republican leaning independents for the most part. Just a new Republican wing, unfortunately... at least they're not Democrats though?
@ejhdigdug The Tea Party Movement followers may have many things in common with the Libritarian Party, we come from accross the political and socioeconomic spectrum. The one of the main differences is that the Libritarian Party believes in an open door policy to the country.
@Robbob9933 By open door policy do you mean open borders? Making it easier for people to immigrate to the United States? I know that the Tea Party tend to be isolationists but I wasn't aware librarians were more open to the idea of open boarders.
@ejhdigdug The Tea Party Movement is not isolationist, it is Rule of Law. If you are unwilling to enter the country in a lawful manner, you have no business being here. Go out and read their platform on their website.
@Robbob9933 I am not talking about illegal entry. I work in a highly skilled job, there is a high bar to hit before someone can get an entry level. Most of the people I work with come from outside the USA and brought here on a work Visa. Open boarders would allow more people outside the US to work inside the USA. Closed boarders would stop us from hiring outside the USA but would force businesses to move outside the US because people here are just not skilled enough to hire for the position.
@ejhdigdug because its not just libertarians, its also blue dong democrats, conservatives, "neo-cons" basically every group on the right has at least some Representative their and that is both a good thing and a bad thing.
USAGymnist. your not paying attention! We are 13 TRILLION in the hole, every time our government borrows money it fuels inflation. This is hard on everyone, reguardless if you work for a living or get a welfare check.
The free ride will stop, because either the economy will collaspe or the people will revolt. The people will win, too many of us and there are 60 million privately owned guns, and no, few people will obey an illegal order to give them up.
The only reason the "freeriders" are hollering racist, is that the people who are tea partiers are gaining power and influence. Pretty soon, the government will be ordered by the people to cut back and that means the "freeriders" will have to get a job. The governments power to steal from the working people to give to the nonproducers will come to an end. It either bring the beast under control or we all sink and the "freeriders are too stupid and lazy to realize this.
As a black, and a real, intellectual, the NAACP is the bane of my existance, yet on the same token, I lack the time to listen to your ridiculous argument. The Tea Party is extrovertedly, unabashedly racist. Not because they dislike Obama. Because the majority of their constituents are xenophobic and racist, and they propagate themselves through the manipulation of the baser instincts of said constituents. I don't think you know much about anything, to be honest.
@malikrox Examples? There are little blips here and there of racist members (or plants pretending to be members), but the group as a whole shows no sign of racism or xenophobia, nor the the majority of individuals within.
Here's my impression of howtheworldworks I hope you like it
"slurp slurp.....oh it tastes so good... populist Republican dick is sooooo yummy....glug glug.....you're always right and sooo big, those evil liberals are always wrong :swallows: I'll tuck into as much dick as possible if it mean you like me.....slurp"
I watched as much of the TV debate as I could, but you let Levine keep redirecting the debate without actually countering any of his equivocations or fallacious premises or conclusions (though you did well, when he let you answer him).
Next time I would say take control of the debate and redirect back to his fallacious premises and conclusions and rebut them, and then allow the conversation to move on to his next topic...but not be fore you rebut his previous logical fallacies.
When I think about it... the NAACP calling the tea party racist is sort of like how immature internet denizens misuse the word 'troll' as a sort of ad hominem argument against people they disagree with. All they have to do is show all the wrong signs and slap on the word racist; reputation neutralized.
@DrCruel I'm black and I'd have to agree. An organization dedicated solely to the advancement of a single race is just as racist, although many people supporting it may not even realize that. How about a National Association For The Advancement of Everyone?
@adminwrh You'd be terribly mistaken. You don't have to be white to see the racism in the very idea of the NAACP. An organization dedicated solely to the advancement of one race... A National Association for the Advancement of White People would immediately be condemned as racist. I don't think us African-Americans should have an advantage over any other minority or in some cases the majority. It just feels wrong to think that I got college money simply for the color of my skin.
@MiroMiroSune i think thats true but also look at it from a point is that minority just obtained civil righits about 40 years ago so and that we are are almost treated equal as white pepole their still some racist views and their always be also organisation like the naacp were created during a time where any not designated for another race was white just now in our time do they not mention that they were white colleges or scholerships
"The tea party" doesn't exist. The tea party MOVEMENT exists. It's not a political party. It's named after a historical event whose name happens to contain the word "party".
The confusion on that is very irritating, and it's destructive to the parties they support: (Libertarian and Republican.)
Not all problems can be solved with more or less government. What does that even mean? Where does government end, and private enterprise begin? One is supposed to be owned by all of us, and the other is only owned by the wealthy few. But those wealthy people also happen to make up our government, either by being politicians or funding their success. The problem has nothing to do with government, because government is just one part of the picture. Its really about society as a whole.
@americant001 "Where does government end, and private enterprise begin?" There, where the money begins to come from customers rather than taxation. Most wealthy have not earned their wealth through taxation, nor are they involved with the government (go down the Forbes list and check, they are mostly in honest businesses).
@john42t I think you are gravely mistaken when you say most wealthy are not involved with government. How many of those wealthy recieve government subsidies in their industires? Also, here is a list of George W Bush's top campaign contributors: Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Pricewaterhouse Coopers, UBS AG, and Goldman Sachs.(the list goes on). For OBama: University of California, Goldman Sachs, Harvard U, Microsoft, Google. This also does not include the PAC money.
@americant001 Money that flows from enterprises to government officials is how it should be (campain contributions) - it's the other way round that is a problem (subsidies). I believe the connection between the two to be superficial (I know you won't agree, but that's what I believe). Subsidies are deeply wrong, but Microsoft and Google aren't subsidied. If they support Obama (don't know if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised), they are in fact funding their own enemy: Never [...]
@john42t The country's political leadership has always been the wealthy class and its not changing. According to an article by CBS about half of congress is millionaires while only one percent of ordinary americans are millionaires. 40% of house freshman and 60% of senate freshman (thats from another article). Why would a company contribute to a political campaign if they don't stand to gain anything?
@americant001 Why would anyone vote for or engage in anything if they don't stand to gain anything? That in itself isn't a problem. It's just that some of those got their wealth from the state itself I take issue with (usually very indirectly), not that they are wealthy.
@john42t I would argue that all companies get their wealth from the state itself. The institution of government, the social structure of the western world and America specifically is what allows companies to thrive. Its a matter of perspective John. And if you stand where I do, you will see the difference between industry and government is paper thin. The difference to me is who gets what... so who gets what?
@americant001 People should get what they deserve. I agree that the state enables companies (aka people who make money) to keep the money they make (protection of private property) - but they still make the money (the value that it stands for to be precise, the government doesn't actually produce anything). But there are companies that actually don't produce much either and get paid by the government. Parts of the banking industry for example, but there is much more. [...]
@americant001 [...] Still, the difference isn't paper thin. Microsoft and small shop next door is 100% non-governmental (they require the protection of property, but they produce the value they are worth). There are many companies which are almost 100% government and everything in between.
@DarthKrattus Consider that even though the top 15 campaign contributors since 1989 are labor unions and "liberal" political action committees, the rest of the list is corporations. If you add up the totals, the corporations account for a much larger piece of the pie. Also considering that the top 1% of americans account for 34% of the total net worth and 49% of investment worth (in those companies), they have much more political buying power than everyone else. (Open secrets, UCSC sociology)
@americant001 The list is heavily graduated, though. Companies like BP (commonly seen as an "evil" corporation) have only paid about 5 mil. Compare that to the IBEW, for instance, which has spend .8 mil on lobbying and 33 mil on campaigns.
So I just read something from someone who is not as right wing as me, and I am completely going to distort his views. You see, all leftists are nazis.
Of course you would suggest we read 2 conservative blogs. It would be completely unbiased and rational if you would refer to 2 independent blogs or 2 sides of the story. We can't have unbiased ideas, now can we?
Is it? I had a conversation with someone just recently, it's still in my recent posted comments, i think, who argued the BNP weren't fascists. In spite of all quotes and evidence i showed him, which included recordings, tapes and quotes BNP-members don't even bother to deny, he still claimed I was a liar, the evidence was fabricated and the BNP are not fascists and in fact are freedom-fighters. Some people like to fool themselves even more than others, for various reasons.
Why are you asking people for money so you can buy a camera? Why don't you come paint my house, do some real work instead of pasting your ugly mug expressing your stupid opinions? And it's not even entertaining. What a piece of shit... You're worse than a welfare recipient. Who is giving you money so that you can listen to yourself being an idiot? People, don't send this welfare recipient money... He's a lowlife moron. He preaches against handouts but then asks for them... What a con.
@quicksiliva How can you equate a request for a voluntary contribution with welfare? This guy has not marshalled the power of goverment to come take money from me by force to use for his projects. I wish I could say the same of NPR.
It never ceases to amaze me how seemingly intelligent people can be so delusional. Then again, party politics in the US has turned an immense number of otherwise intelligent and thoughtful people into "us against them" fact twisting, compulsive deniers. You included buddy. Anyone who isn't a radical (in this case right wing) would never argue that the tea party isn't racist. The founder of this fundamentalist mob has made so many obviously racist coments that this statement is beyond reproach.
@Blockygraphics how is that in any way related to the issue at hand? don't create strawmen arguments just because you can't defend the one that's being discussed.
the tea party itself is not racist, but there are are racists in the tea party movement, fair enough? are they all racists? no, of course not, that is a ridiculous statement, but the movement was slow to distance itself from elements within that were clearly racist. therefore it will be difficult to completely erase this stigma. and if someone out there tries to deny racist elements or incidents, go fuck yourself. i saw it with my own eyes!
It's funny the NAACP likes to call groups "racist," especially consider they are the expert racists, creating pathetic websites that "monitor" the Tea Party for racism, all while race baiting 24/7. Ever hear of the Black Panthers intimidating white voters, or better yet, take a moment to sit down and watch Cops. I think that show will make my point perfectly. The point is, until the NAACP gets its own racism under control, it has no room to talk.
I half support the tea party. It is good that they are putting gov't in check. However they will continue to vote blindly in November creating the same mistake putting manipulative screw job republicans back in office.
Not the answer to our problem.
After they screw up we will put another democrat in office.
That's when you blindly and carelessly put people in office. The democrats have shown their true intentions and will loose power because of it. The thing is that most conservative candidates are republicans.
What you need to vote for is their beliefs, hopes and wants. Not their political party. That is the only way to vote right. Information is power, get the power.
Republicans will do the same thing. They have leverage now that Democrats screwed themselves and the Nation. year and a half what Bush did in 5 years.
Most of the Republicans out there are the same screw balls. Conservative? Yes. Worker for the people? No, don't see them changing.
Voting in this country is like voting for your favorite sports team. And our nation has payed for it. Washington was right. Political parties destroyed this nation. And the blind voters.
So are all conservatives blind voters? What did Bush do in 5 years that is equal to Obama? You sure about the Republican party? There are a lot of new people running for political positions. They are mostly conservatives and are trying to bring America back to what it was. Those are the people we need in America.
Most are blind like democrats. Many will go in and vote for the guy who either has a D or an R next to the name without any knowledge of their policy. Probably 20-25% of voters look at the views. The rest are blind sheep.
Bush destroyed this country in 5 years, spent this nation to death. Took Obama about 1.5 years to do what Bush did. . Yeah there are a lot of new people running but have you seen how many are getting good pole numbers? a handful of them, not enough.
So the Tea Party movement is comprised of less than 30% of Americans including those that stay at home during events, yet still vote consciously? Or is the Tea Party Movement just filled with a bunch of conservative Zombies?
Bush brought up the National Debt to $1 Trillion on the other hand Obama increased our national debt by 13 times! Oh and where are your polls from? Besides why are you talking about poles? What do they have to do with politics.
Where are you getting your numbers? and how are you misinterpreting? From a Fox news poll about 30% of Americans support the tea party whether they are apart of it or not. Far less are probably part of the tea party 3 to 5% of the nation at best. This however does not represent the overall disgust of our Government.
In what way do you find that I believe the Tea Party members are zombies or blind voters? Yeah there will be some, but most I see as they see corrupt Gov't.
Rasmussen Polls show "Sixty-three percent (63%) of Mainstream Americans say their views are closer to the Tea Party." It also stated that 16% of Americans consider themselves as part of the movement. So your numbers are really off.
Less people are politically blind now. Most of them choose to stay on the liberal side. Why is it that you can't seem to accept that people are voting smarter now? Also I will not engage on a battle on 2 fronts and will not reply for the other post.
The key term their is "mainstream" what do you consider mainstream?
Also showed that 48% of voters align with the Tea Party over Obama
Main Stream poll seams a rather clumsy IMO.
16% consider part of it. I only consider people who go out and take action. Which is far less than 16% I support the Tea Party but I am not part of it.
16% would imply 48 million people have protested. There are a lot, but not 48 million.
I can take action even if I sit in my room. There are many different types of actions. Not all include protesting. I can protest by posting on a forum saying "Big government is wrong!"
I'm tired though of battling you. It's a stupid thing. We can predict what might happen but until it does it doesn't matter. End of discussion.
It will take far much more than those small numbers to do anything to change Government, too small, and our nation has a habit of blindly voting for the other side after they have been screwed by the other side. There will be blind people who vote for Republicans. There will be blind voters who vote democrat. Not everyone who votes with an open mind is not a tea party member. I am not part of it, but support the check against Government.
Many of the Conservatives that are being favored are your traditional Republicans that screwed us (Florida, Alaska, AZ is close) The "new breed" of conservatives don't have enough clout and money to get through to make a difference.
The trend will continue.
2012 will be run by Republicans. They will screw up. Democrats will play the blame game like they did in 2008.
Actually the Conservative won for primaries in Alaska. In Arizona it was between two not very good people, the people of AZ will go for the lesser of two evils. Florida has had problems of it's own and they have always been screwy. I haven't heard much news from them.
So your "we always choose wrong" idea is Intellectually Bankrupt. You are attempting to say that people will remain unaware this year even though a huge number has become aware your opinion is Intellectually Bankrupt
Again this is just a handful of people, not enough to do jack. You redundant ad-hominem attacks are rather disgusting. "Intellectually bankrupt"? Can you be original with your comments?
Tea Party is making noise, but the size is to small for what it is up against and to think that there is a number of Republicans who do not support the tea party as a whole illustrates that many of the same screw ball republicans will gain power again.
And i'd say seeing as racism was essentially the defining issue of the 20th CENTURY, i'd say it still resonates quite well. Want to know WHY it's still so important, take a walk around the outskirts of DC rather than disrespectfully picnicking on the mall
It's interesting how people can't get over "racism". Come on people it's not the 20th Century! I know of a lot of Blacks who are in the Tea Party. I mean are they all racist also? Obama is bad, he doesn't deserve to be where he is. End of Story.
Let's face it- there ARE some pretty crazy and hateful people at the tea parties with a lot of really ridiculous signs, some of which refer to Obama as a Nazi or refer to his healthcare plan as "something the Nazis would do" or call it "socialism" without having an intellectual debate on WHY the healthcare bill sucks. The teabaggers are a bunch of zombies, for the most part. They just listen to their right-wing overlords and Glenn Beck-style propaganda.
I wouldn't say that the tea party is inherently racist, but tea party LEADERS need to acknowledge and tell the cranks in their ranks to STFU. Why do they get so defensive when someone simply asks them to denounce the more divisive element? How hard is it to just admit that a small minority of wackjobs exist, like in every organization, tell them to get outta here, and move on? Why is Mark Williams being so damn defensive and acting like there are ZERO (not even 1?) racists in tea parties?
@MoronsOnYT And Williams needs to quit acting like there are ZERO dumb signs in the tea parties. OF COURSE there are! People have been documenting all the really ridiculous signs and tea partier rhetoric since the start of these rallies. Mark Williams claims it's because of "Crash the tea parties", which was founded only a couple months ago. The tea parties started over a year ago.
@MoronsOnYT race is not even the issue, I have met a couple of people from other races that are tea partiers. I see more propaganda from the left than from the right.
@MitchofSmeg you do realize that the american president position has been a racist organization until obama was elected. so why do people think they can call the tea party racist just because non of there leadersare black. and why dont people say theres no asians ? it seems that only black people can be discriminated against. and that my friend is racist in itself..........
@2bpilot It's a manipulation tactic, 2b. If they can make you feel bad about the way you believe, then they can change your mind, and since your ideals are the foundation of what you organize about, the organization will then fall apart. Change the way you feel leads to changing the way you belief, thus changing your actions. It's taught in RETB.
They attempt the same thing against Christianity. But if you know who you are, then they can't define you, so their arguments are insane.
yr Neo-Liberal!) that the day that that happens all these rights you think yr fighting for WILL disappear because you, just like yr rights, will no longer be expressions without value, rights and people will be commodities in the market, just like everything else.
Also I guess yr all very ungrateful for the public wonders that fill yr day to day. And since I am guessing most of you Reps. who bother posting on Youtube, are the great unwashed sheeple masses, AMERICA IS A MIXED ECONOMY we are part socialist, oh shit, ITS BEEN THAT WAY SINCE DAY 1. There has never in Modern history, so far as I understand ANY perfectly independent capital market, it's never existed and I assure you Neo-Liberal freaks (thats right if you HATE socialism yr not only liberal...
Actually that isn't entirely untrue, it is just irrelevant. The Nazi's were the Workers party, but it's a pretty obvious fallacy to equate the Nazi's w/ Socialism considering how many socialist gov'ts have existed and continue to do so without the ethnic cleansing and totalitarian regime that more accurately reflects WWII Germany. Hitler parallels are for people who don't know history/politics/rhetoric/reality... Just more semantic BS which contains no real information, just fear
yr mortal and you don't want to fuck yr spouse any more, -and I am just gonna quit the rant cause it's not worth it, you people can't give me a single coherent sentence. calstategop you've just said nothing, congratulations! What are THOSE reasons? What rights are you protecting? Anyone i've ever met that took TP seriously (that's Tea Party, folks) makes me feel nothing but uneasy. The gov't IS the people, yr just a solitary fool.
There is no tea "party" so far as I understand it or as the unemployed enthusiast trying to sell me Don't Tread On Me shirts this past 4th explained it to me, it isn't a political Party, though it has some candidates running with "party" backing; While in fact: yr mostly a bunch of washed up "Me" gen-ers w/ nothing better to do than bitch cause you failed to build any real wealth and the world doesn't look much like the Cleaver's anymore, and no one wants to buy yr shit, and as it it turns out
Tea baggers don't want to talk about the issues w/ people who think differently, they just want to hear an echo, though that is just the tip of their hypocrisy
I like how all of us "progressives" or "liberals" on here are obviously non-contributing unemployed drunk dope fiends, who have clearly not done their research. How about "we" as people who care more about (other) people than we do hollow choice and the pursuit of capital as the highest virtue.
There are still groceries in the store, yep. And Detroit hasn't rioted yet, nope. Well than lets see how this plays out, cause the past decade was a pure shit show son.
And do you know how to make a Refrigerator, like w/ the coil and all, from scratch, no? Think about it.
@tmmzc85 You're the one who isn't thinking my friend and you should hurry before it's too late. A lot of liberals are waking up and seeing how the democrats r destroying capitalism that made the greatest country in the world. Just think, why do Mexicans want to come here, what's wrong with their country? They have given their government too much power and it has become massively corrupt. The same thing will happen here. Just remember politicians don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
@tmmzc85 Try getting your information from other outlets beside mainstream media. They are in the tank for socialistic policies.They are considered elite and won't be affected by them. Do some research about what Lenin did to his own people in the 1930's when during socialism .The New York times wouldn't even cover the slaughter of millions of Russians. How about how hollywood actors and Obama admin officials who praise Castro. He has more journalists imprisoned and beaten than other country
@StopWhining111 "Try getting your information from other outlets beside mainstream media" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you mean like youtube?! How about the Cato, Ludvwig Von Mises? ...what b.s.
Wow! You know the names of Communist leaders! WTF is yr point, and what Obama official/ quote are you referring to? Yr a little name dropper just like the vlogger, you don't know any facts, you just drop proper nouns that are semantically related in yr own deluded little mind to concepts you don't grasp.
Ur Dave, for someone who studied law (3rd rate Law School), I would assume you understand what a non sequitur argument is ... but then maybe not.. My comment was about your defense of the Tea Party as not having racists. I offered one example of why I perceive "some" of them to behave like racists but then you come back with some statement about Bush. You changed the topic.
You are fatuously attempting to position yourself as a "News Reporter" but you are extremely bias in your reporting.
Uh sir, your use of loaded labels and highly charged words greatly affects your goal to be taken seriously. Some folks of the Tea Party seem to be racists ... when I see a Tea Party rally and observe several signs (on T.V.) that show nooses around President Obama's neck, it doesn't take much to leave folks with the perception of racist behavior (btw: that was just one example).
@akkaoi It was also used on bush, several times. along with, hmmm, wonder what it would have been like to murder bush. what would happen then. Was that also raciist
The tactic is called "RACE BATING" .. If I don't like something all i have to say is.. "Your just saying that cuz I'm (insert skin tone here) aren't you (insert combatants alternative skin tine here in attitude of offensive distain).. It's a method taught by Alinsky in his crappy book called "Rules for Assholes"..oh, wait.. I mean "RULES FOR RADICALS" (sorry i get those mixed up).. ~a~
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The Tea Party has some good ideas and opinions but they messed up by collaborating with the Republicans who used them to win power and cause the gridlock were seeing now. The T-Party and the Occupy movement actually have a lot on common and think they have the potential to be additional parties to the current democracy,,,but the T-Party needs to stop with the racist stuff.
RollDeep1000 6 days ago
I dont care what anyone says. The Tea Party/ Republicans have some racist undertones. I have watched enough news and followed enough politics to see that. They voted in the likes of Boehner, Walsh, Brewer and Walker who all campaigned on stoking fear/ disrespect toward Obama. Boehner and McConnel promise to make Obama "a one term president" the fameous "YOU LIE" by Joe Wilson (A staunch Tea Party Republican) and the Birther Movement that fully supported Sen. Bachmann.
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Oh and Sorry i forgot to mention please read up on facts. -_- 2,000 pages? A very large exaggeration. Also the Tea-Party i will not say they are racist because as a whole their not against a race and only parts of members of the tea party are racist this is the same for all parties. Before I go any further id really enjoy for us to speak more apon this subjects or an subject for that matter. You seem intelligent but as you do I must try to provide a few critiques :P
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holyduck.org/2011/11/tea-party-are-racists.html OMG!!! STOP THEM!!
HolyDuckDotOrg 3 months ago
Asking the TEA party to condemn racism is like asking all scifi fans what they thought of star trek. How will you even know you have an answer when not even Republicans have a leader?
TravistheHuman 4 months ago
@HowTheWorldWorks & ohters
How do you know if a gate crasher or a real racist?
Amaguqas 5 months ago
I love how Obama does almost everything the Republicans want and still gets attacked for it.
Now guess who is on his side?
NO ONE!!!!
He should have just been a real "socialist", at least he would have done some good things... America could have been as awesome as Norway or Canada.
ThatBlackPanda 6 months ago
This is an outrageous claim by the NAACP. The racism of the Tea Party is not just a cheap politcal ploy. Its completely sincere!
americant001 6 months ago
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Progressives do not really believe we Tea Party people are psychotic. They see us as real threats because we are on to their game. Our message of small government, personal responsibility and personal strength is a huge threat to their doctrine of personal dependence upon government -- therefore, they call us names.
vechorik 6 months ago
"Sexysocialist?" LMFAO
ihateneveen 7 months ago
Give this man a talk show! He's got all the fast-talking indignation that we look for in a talking head. With a nice suit and an expensive haircut he could really go places.
socionomic 10 months ago
What does 0.25 to 2.55 have to do with Tea Party Racism? This guy feels little regard for viewers. He misleads us all. Why should we take anything else he says seriously. Also he has a panicked way about him. I think he is motivated by terrible fear.
glipona 10 months ago
@glipona It's not like there isn't much to fear. Do you live in planet Earth?
ihateneveen 7 months ago
i got to say, i don't agree, but i keep watching, because you seem rational, and there for a good example of the rational arguments that i usually oppose, i enjoy you videos, you seem smart, i'll fact check later, and make my final opinion then,
Nightblade44 11 months ago
One thing I've always wanted to ask the Tea Party, why don't they call themselves libertarians? It seems to fit with their idea of a smaller government. I'm serious, not trying to start an argument. Libertarians have been around a lot longer, are more established, why a new party?
ejhdigdug 11 months ago 6
@ejhdigdug i think we actually dodged a bullet. i mean i'm sure there are very nice, rational tea party ppl. but many are not. and so far people see libertarians and tea party memebers as separate. being separate doesn't mean they can't work together...
100CommonCents 10 months ago
@100CommonCents Proof
ihateneveen 7 months ago
@ejhdigdug Because libertarians, - whether right or left, capitalist or socialist - support unhindered personal freedom of the individual in keeping with John Stewart Mill's harm principle.
The tea party however, have no problem with the state intruding into people's personal lives as long as it doesn't intervene in the economy.
They want the state to dictate for them about sex, sexuality, a women's right to choose what to do with her own body, what god to pray to, and other fascistic positions.
MsSexySocialist 9 months ago
@MsSexySocialist Gasp!!!! You mean they want you to keep your money, but not kill an innocent baby? The motherfucking tragedy!!!
ihateneveen 7 months ago
@MsSexySocialist You want me out of your uterus as long as government runs every aspect of my life? Is that somehow LESS hypocritical??? LMFAO!!!!
ihateneveen 7 months ago
@ihateneveen
That sentence of yours could use some work.
MsSexySocialist 7 months ago
@MsSexySocialist Your face could use some work.
ihateneveen 7 months ago
@ihateneveen
Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat comeback.
Do you take advice on how to debate from 6-year-olds?
MsSexySocialist 7 months ago
@MsSexySocialist You mean liberals??? Yeah. ;)
ihateneveen 7 months ago
@ihateneveen
I am not a liberal.
And if you hate them so much why do you take advice from them?
MsSexySocialist 7 months ago
@MsSexySocialist I don't hate them half as much as they hate those that don't agree with them.
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ihateneveen
No that's right-wingers - the preachers of hatred.
MsSexySocialist 6 months ago
@MsSexySocialist Hate is such a dumbed down and overused phrase by liberals, that it means nothing other than "you disagree with me and I don't like it." Nothing else.
ihateneveen 6 months ago
@ejhdigdug The Tea Party is a conservative-ish movement. Ask them about cutting social security or medicare and they will cut you. They're conservative on social issues and are pretty hawkish on foreign policy. The original Tea Party comprised of Ron Paul supporters in 07/08 was libertarian, but these folks are just Republicans/Republican leaning independents for the most part. Just a new Republican wing, unfortunately... at least they're not Democrats though?
AshillaBeige 8 months ago
@ejhdigdug There's already a Libertarian Party
DarthKrattus 6 months ago
@ejhdigdug The Tea Party Movement followers may have many things in common with the Libritarian Party, we come from accross the political and socioeconomic spectrum. The one of the main differences is that the Libritarian Party believes in an open door policy to the country.
Robbob9933 5 months ago
@Robbob9933 By open door policy do you mean open borders? Making it easier for people to immigrate to the United States? I know that the Tea Party tend to be isolationists but I wasn't aware librarians were more open to the idea of open boarders.
ejhdigdug 5 months ago
@ejhdigdug The Tea Party Movement is not isolationist, it is Rule of Law. If you are unwilling to enter the country in a lawful manner, you have no business being here. Go out and read their platform on their website.
Robbob9933 5 months ago 2
@Robbob9933 I am not talking about illegal entry. I work in a highly skilled job, there is a high bar to hit before someone can get an entry level. Most of the people I work with come from outside the USA and brought here on a work Visa. Open boarders would allow more people outside the US to work inside the USA. Closed boarders would stop us from hiring outside the USA but would force businesses to move outside the US because people here are just not skilled enough to hire for the position.
ejhdigdug 5 months ago
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Ron Paul says neo-cons are NOT CONSERVATIVES!
Definition and names of neo-cons: /watch?v=nuefjIYKkjE
Tea Party Split: Sarah Palin and Ron Paul discuss Israel/drugs/more
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Ron Paul supports gay marriage: /watch?v=l1gzs27HswQ
vechorik 4 months ago
@ejhdigdug Some are libertarians and some are not.
TravistheHuman 4 months ago
@ejhdigdug because its not just libertarians, its also blue dong democrats, conservatives, "neo-cons" basically every group on the right has at least some Representative their and that is both a good thing and a bad thing.
maximunoutlaw32 2 months ago
the answer is NO. most of the "Racists" Signs you see are from Liberal infultrators who are trying to bring down the Movment.
4everUSNavy 11 months ago
USAGymnist. your not paying attention! We are 13 TRILLION in the hole, every time our government borrows money it fuels inflation. This is hard on everyone, reguardless if you work for a living or get a welfare check.
The free ride will stop, because either the economy will collaspe or the people will revolt. The people will win, too many of us and there are 60 million privately owned guns, and no, few people will obey an illegal order to give them up.
unclefixer 1 year ago
The only reason the "freeriders" are hollering racist, is that the people who are tea partiers are gaining power and influence. Pretty soon, the government will be ordered by the people to cut back and that means the "freeriders" will have to get a job. The governments power to steal from the working people to give to the nonproducers will come to an end. It either bring the beast under control or we all sink and the "freeriders are too stupid and lazy to realize this.
unclefixer 1 year ago
As a black, and a real, intellectual, the NAACP is the bane of my existance, yet on the same token, I lack the time to listen to your ridiculous argument. The Tea Party is extrovertedly, unabashedly racist. Not because they dislike Obama. Because the majority of their constituents are xenophobic and racist, and they propagate themselves through the manipulation of the baser instincts of said constituents. I don't think you know much about anything, to be honest.
malikrox 1 year ago
@malikrox Examples? There are little blips here and there of racist members (or plants pretending to be members), but the group as a whole shows no sign of racism or xenophobia, nor the the majority of individuals within.
shamgar001 1 year ago
I feel like a psychiatrist listening to this guy rants.
cyphertek 1 year ago
Here's my impression of howtheworldworks I hope you like it
"slurp slurp.....oh it tastes so good... populist Republican dick is sooooo yummy....glug glug.....you're always right and sooo big, those evil liberals are always wrong :swallows: I'll tuck into as much dick as possible if it mean you like me.....slurp"
:trollface: problem teabaggers?
angrydead 1 year ago
@angrydead I guess I would just insult people too if I didn't have any argument.
thejewishguyonfire 1 year ago
It just sounds like one gigantic rant.
Tiosh 1 year ago
I watched as much of the TV debate as I could, but you let Levine keep redirecting the debate without actually countering any of his equivocations or fallacious premises or conclusions (though you did well, when he let you answer him).
Next time I would say take control of the debate and redirect back to his fallacious premises and conclusions and rebut them, and then allow the conversation to move on to his next topic...but not be fore you rebut his previous logical fallacies.
Mortaryan 1 year ago
well it's a bit more dangerous with someone having control over the military than control over hospitals <.<
Happypast 1 year ago
What do you mean we are running out of money? Cash is not a finite resource like precious metals or pork bellies. QE adinfinitum is all we need!
hrobinson71 1 year ago
When I think about it... the NAACP calling the tea party racist is sort of like how immature internet denizens misuse the word 'troll' as a sort of ad hominem argument against people they disagree with. All they have to do is show all the wrong signs and slap on the word racist; reputation neutralized.
MiroMiroSune 1 year ago
@MiroMiroSune My point, politics and the NAACP are gay.
MiroMiroSune 1 year ago
The NAACP is a racist organization.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel I'm black and I'd have to agree. An organization dedicated solely to the advancement of a single race is just as racist, although many people supporting it may not even realize that. How about a National Association For The Advancement of Everyone?
MiroMiroSune 1 year ago
@MiroMiroSune I'd go with the National Association of Anti-Racists. I can "advance" myself on my own, through my own merit, thank you very much.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel Your name suits you, because that kind of thinking is exactly how things never change.
MiroMiroSune 1 year ago
@MiroMiroSune Yeah, right. God forbid we assume personal responsibility for our own lives. If we do, "nothing will ever change".
My name is meant to mock Leftists. I'm "cruel" because I know what I'm talking about, and because I tell the truth.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@MiroMiroSune I have as much contempt for the NAACP as the next guy, but I'm betting you're white.
adminwrh 1 year ago
@adminwrh You'd be terribly mistaken. You don't have to be white to see the racism in the very idea of the NAACP. An organization dedicated solely to the advancement of one race... A National Association for the Advancement of White People would immediately be condemned as racist. I don't think us African-Americans should have an advantage over any other minority or in some cases the majority. It just feels wrong to think that I got college money simply for the color of my skin.
MiroMiroSune 1 year ago
@MiroMiroSune i think thats true but also look at it from a point is that minority just obtained civil righits about 40 years ago so and that we are are almost treated equal as white pepole their still some racist views and their always be also organisation like the naacp were created during a time where any not designated for another race was white just now in our time do they not mention that they were white colleges or scholerships
qazwsxedc562 11 months ago
hi reading!
jannikmt 1 year ago
"The tea party" doesn't exist. The tea party MOVEMENT exists. It's not a political party. It's named after a historical event whose name happens to contain the word "party".
The confusion on that is very irritating, and it's destructive to the parties they support: (Libertarian and Republican.)
pburto 1 year ago
OF COURSE!!!!
STEEEVVYZ 1 year ago
Not all problems can be solved with more or less government. What does that even mean? Where does government end, and private enterprise begin? One is supposed to be owned by all of us, and the other is only owned by the wealthy few. But those wealthy people also happen to make up our government, either by being politicians or funding their success. The problem has nothing to do with government, because government is just one part of the picture. Its really about society as a whole.
americant001 1 year ago 2
@americant001 "Where does government end, and private enterprise begin?" There, where the money begins to come from customers rather than taxation. Most wealthy have not earned their wealth through taxation, nor are they involved with the government (go down the Forbes list and check, they are mostly in honest businesses).
john42t 1 year ago
@john42t I think you are gravely mistaken when you say most wealthy are not involved with government. How many of those wealthy recieve government subsidies in their industires? Also, here is a list of George W Bush's top campaign contributors: Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Pricewaterhouse Coopers, UBS AG, and Goldman Sachs.(the list goes on). For OBama: University of California, Goldman Sachs, Harvard U, Microsoft, Google. This also does not include the PAC money.
americant001 6 months ago
@americant001 Money that flows from enterprises to government officials is how it should be (campain contributions) - it's the other way round that is a problem (subsidies). I believe the connection between the two to be superficial (I know you won't agree, but that's what I believe). Subsidies are deeply wrong, but Microsoft and Google aren't subsidied. If they support Obama (don't know if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised), they are in fact funding their own enemy: Never [...]
john42t 6 months ago
@americant001 [...] explain with malice what can be explained with stupidity.
john42t 6 months ago
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americant001 6 months ago
@john42t The country's political leadership has always been the wealthy class and its not changing. According to an article by CBS about half of congress is millionaires while only one percent of ordinary americans are millionaires. 40% of house freshman and 60% of senate freshman (thats from another article). Why would a company contribute to a political campaign if they don't stand to gain anything?
americant001 6 months ago
@americant001 Why would anyone vote for or engage in anything if they don't stand to gain anything? That in itself isn't a problem. It's just that some of those got their wealth from the state itself I take issue with (usually very indirectly), not that they are wealthy.
john42t 6 months ago
@john42t I would argue that all companies get their wealth from the state itself. The institution of government, the social structure of the western world and America specifically is what allows companies to thrive. Its a matter of perspective John. And if you stand where I do, you will see the difference between industry and government is paper thin. The difference to me is who gets what... so who gets what?
americant001 6 months ago
@americant001 People should get what they deserve. I agree that the state enables companies (aka people who make money) to keep the money they make (protection of private property) - but they still make the money (the value that it stands for to be precise, the government doesn't actually produce anything). But there are companies that actually don't produce much either and get paid by the government. Parts of the banking industry for example, but there is much more. [...]
john42t 6 months ago
@americant001 [...] Still, the difference isn't paper thin. Microsoft and small shop next door is 100% non-governmental (they require the protection of property, but they produce the value they are worth). There are many companies which are almost 100% government and everything in between.
john42t 6 months ago
@americant001 Actually, most of funding for political campaigns comes from liberal unions.
DarthKrattus 6 months ago
@DarthKrattus Consider that even though the top 15 campaign contributors since 1989 are labor unions and "liberal" political action committees, the rest of the list is corporations. If you add up the totals, the corporations account for a much larger piece of the pie. Also considering that the top 1% of americans account for 34% of the total net worth and 49% of investment worth (in those companies), they have much more political buying power than everyone else. (Open secrets, UCSC sociology)
americant001 6 months ago
@americant001 The list is heavily graduated, though. Companies like BP (commonly seen as an "evil" corporation) have only paid about 5 mil. Compare that to the IBEW, for instance, which has spend .8 mil on lobbying and 33 mil on campaigns.
DarthKrattus 6 months ago
You should call yourself "how the biased conservative mind works".
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH
"how indoctrinating people with lies works"
So I just read something from someone who is not as right wing as me, and I am completely going to distort his views. You see, all leftists are nazis.
pulsatingremedy 1 year ago
@pulsatingremedy
Are you arguing that this is not a completely biased video with only references to blogs and sources on one end of the political spectrum?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH
I was agreeing with you. :)
pulsatingremedy 1 year ago
Of course you would suggest we read 2 conservative blogs. It would be completely unbiased and rational if you would refer to 2 independent blogs or 2 sides of the story. We can't have unbiased ideas, now can we?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago
I am a Free Vietnamese living in America for the past 30 years and I am an active member of the Tea Party. Case closed...
ProphetLuong 1 year ago
@ProphetLuong
Is it? I had a conversation with someone just recently, it's still in my recent posted comments, i think, who argued the BNP weren't fascists. In spite of all quotes and evidence i showed him, which included recordings, tapes and quotes BNP-members don't even bother to deny, he still claimed I was a liar, the evidence was fabricated and the BNP are not fascists and in fact are freedom-fighters. Some people like to fool themselves even more than others, for various reasons.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago
Google Image search "Dale Robertson Tea Party"
if you want the answer to this video.
Tea partier give conservatives a bad name.
zaxo343 1 year ago
Why are you asking people for money so you can buy a camera? Why don't you come paint my house, do some real work instead of pasting your ugly mug expressing your stupid opinions? And it's not even entertaining. What a piece of shit... You're worse than a welfare recipient. Who is giving you money so that you can listen to yourself being an idiot? People, don't send this welfare recipient money... He's a lowlife moron. He preaches against handouts but then asks for them... What a con.
quicksiliva 1 year ago
@quicksiliva How can you equate a request for a voluntary contribution with welfare? This guy has not marshalled the power of goverment to come take money from me by force to use for his projects. I wish I could say the same of NPR.
HeyGettaClue 1 year ago
id ont care about the rasism argument, but anyone who thinks sarah palin or christine o donnell should be elected to government is a moron!!
stukya 1 year ago
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JohananRaatz 1 year ago
You make so much sense, it's refreshing :).
TheMusicBucket 1 year ago
Damn, i thought he was gonna make the classic argument... (Is the tea party racist? No, see here's a black guy)
Aumizuchii 1 year ago 2
More filth spilling from the mouth of a swine.
ipwnorcs 1 year ago
It never ceases to amaze me how seemingly intelligent people can be so delusional. Then again, party politics in the US has turned an immense number of otherwise intelligent and thoughtful people into "us against them" fact twisting, compulsive deniers. You included buddy. Anyone who isn't a radical (in this case right wing) would never argue that the tea party isn't racist. The founder of this fundamentalist mob has made so many obviously racist coments that this statement is beyond reproach.
rmilwid 1 year ago
this guy is cute, but he is a propaganda artist
bluegalactic 1 year ago
this guy is cute, but he is a propaganda artist
bluegalactic 1 year ago
NAACP calls anyone they don't like or disagree with racist.
WyerlessWun 1 year ago
nerd
thecloudswillattack 1 year ago
Wow, you distort things so badly. You hack up real facts and treat your own opinion as more impotent then news.
Trueskorn 1 year ago
@killj00s Counter-arguments that the tea party is racist? I mean, you have to be pretty devoid of intelligence to not believe that one.
brothamouzoune 1 year ago
tea party sucks monkey balls
tjohn1986 1 year ago
@tjohn1986 Do you have any particular basis or reason for that opinion?
EmperorProzen 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics how is that in any way related to the issue at hand? don't create strawmen arguments just because you can't defend the one that's being discussed.
brothamouzoune 1 year ago
heh. Fail.
FdogPfinger 1 year ago
so many half-truths and poorly reasoned arguments in this vid my mind is blown.
brothamouzoune 1 year ago
@brothamouzoune
Any actual counter argument, or are you going to just be a baby raping cunt?
killj00s 1 year ago
@brothamouzoune you obviously havent been to mediamatters.
shockwaveization 1 year ago
the tea party itself is not racist, but there are are racists in the tea party movement, fair enough? are they all racists? no, of course not, that is a ridiculous statement, but the movement was slow to distance itself from elements within that were clearly racist. therefore it will be difficult to completely erase this stigma. and if someone out there tries to deny racist elements or incidents, go fuck yourself. i saw it with my own eyes!
Putaspellonyou 1 year ago
It's funny the NAACP likes to call groups "racist," especially consider they are the expert racists, creating pathetic websites that "monitor" the Tea Party for racism, all while race baiting 24/7. Ever hear of the Black Panthers intimidating white voters, or better yet, take a moment to sit down and watch Cops. I think that show will make my point perfectly. The point is, until the NAACP gets its own racism under control, it has no room to talk.
LibertyObserver 1 year ago
I half support the tea party. It is good that they are putting gov't in check. However they will continue to vote blindly in November creating the same mistake putting manipulative screw job republicans back in office.
Not the answer to our problem.
After they screw up we will put another democrat in office.
The cycle continues.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@Bismarck3000
That's when you blindly and carelessly put people in office. The democrats have shown their true intentions and will loose power because of it. The thing is that most conservative candidates are republicans.
What you need to vote for is their beliefs, hopes and wants. Not their political party. That is the only way to vote right. Information is power, get the power.
RandomEntertainmenYT 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
Republicans will do the same thing. They have leverage now that Democrats screwed themselves and the Nation. year and a half what Bush did in 5 years.
Most of the Republicans out there are the same screw balls. Conservative? Yes. Worker for the people? No, don't see them changing.
Voting in this country is like voting for your favorite sports team. And our nation has payed for it. Washington was right. Political parties destroyed this nation. And the blind voters.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@Bismarck3000
So are all conservatives blind voters? What did Bush do in 5 years that is equal to Obama? You sure about the Republican party? There are a lot of new people running for political positions. They are mostly conservatives and are trying to bring America back to what it was. Those are the people we need in America.
RandomEntertainmenYT 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
Most are blind like democrats. Many will go in and vote for the guy who either has a D or an R next to the name without any knowledge of their policy. Probably 20-25% of voters look at the views. The rest are blind sheep.
Bush destroyed this country in 5 years, spent this nation to death. Took Obama about 1.5 years to do what Bush did. . Yeah there are a lot of new people running but have you seen how many are getting good pole numbers? a handful of them, not enough.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@Bismarck3000
So the Tea Party movement is comprised of less than 30% of Americans including those that stay at home during events, yet still vote consciously? Or is the Tea Party Movement just filled with a bunch of conservative Zombies?
Bush brought up the National Debt to $1 Trillion on the other hand Obama increased our national debt by 13 times! Oh and where are your polls from? Besides why are you talking about poles? What do they have to do with politics.
RandomEntertainmenYT 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
Where are you getting your numbers? and how are you misinterpreting? From a Fox news poll about 30% of Americans support the tea party whether they are apart of it or not. Far less are probably part of the tea party 3 to 5% of the nation at best. This however does not represent the overall disgust of our Government.
In what way do you find that I believe the Tea Party members are zombies or blind voters? Yeah there will be some, but most I see as they see corrupt Gov't.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@Bismarck3000
Rasmussen Polls show "Sixty-three percent (63%) of Mainstream Americans say their views are closer to the Tea Party." It also stated that 16% of Americans consider themselves as part of the movement. So your numbers are really off.
Less people are politically blind now. Most of them choose to stay on the liberal side. Why is it that you can't seem to accept that people are voting smarter now? Also I will not engage on a battle on 2 fronts and will not reply for the other post.
RandomEntertainmenYT 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
The key term their is "mainstream" what do you consider mainstream?
Also showed that 48% of voters align with the Tea Party over Obama
Main Stream poll seams a rather clumsy IMO.
16% consider part of it. I only consider people who go out and take action. Which is far less than 16% I support the Tea Party but I am not part of it.
16% would imply 48 million people have protested. There are a lot, but not 48 million.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@Bismarck3000
I can take action even if I sit in my room. There are many different types of actions. Not all include protesting. I can protest by posting on a forum saying "Big government is wrong!"
I'm tired though of battling you. It's a stupid thing. We can predict what might happen but until it does it doesn't matter. End of discussion.
RandomEntertainmenYT 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
Forums don't get recognition from the Government. Think Big G is going to browse your forums and take note? No.
That's why Tea Party organized a public protest. I would protest but they always seem to be on a work day when I work. =/
Actions speak louder than words. Just don't do anything drastic or illegal. Represent yourself well as well as your country and beliefs.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
Continued
It will take far much more than those small numbers to do anything to change Government, too small, and our nation has a habit of blindly voting for the other side after they have been screwed by the other side. There will be blind people who vote for Republicans. There will be blind voters who vote democrat. Not everyone who votes with an open mind is not a tea party member. I am not part of it, but support the check against Government.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
I have yet to vote for anyone on the Dem or Rep ticket, neither side has shown me they can run the Nation.
As for your debt numbers
when Bush took over the National debt was 5.6 trillion, in October 2008 it was 11.3 trillion. How is that only 1 trillion?
The current debt is 13 trillion and some change.
how is that 13 times?
Bush destroyed this nation. And now Obama is.
When one storm leaves another one comes it. Just another hurricane that has the same name.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
Continued...
Many of the Conservatives that are being favored are your traditional Republicans that screwed us (Florida, Alaska, AZ is close) The "new breed" of conservatives don't have enough clout and money to get through to make a difference.
The trend will continue.
2012 will be run by Republicans. They will screw up. Democrats will play the blame game like they did in 2008.
They will hold office and screw us over again.
I see our nation in a downward spiral
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@Bismarck3000
Actually the Conservative won for primaries in Alaska. In Arizona it was between two not very good people, the people of AZ will go for the lesser of two evils. Florida has had problems of it's own and they have always been screwy. I haven't heard much news from them.
So your "we always choose wrong" idea is Intellectually Bankrupt. You are attempting to say that people will remain unaware this year even though a huge number has become aware your opinion is Intellectually Bankrupt
RandomEntertainmenYT 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
Again this is just a handful of people, not enough to do jack. You redundant ad-hominem attacks are rather disgusting. "Intellectually bankrupt"? Can you be original with your comments?
Tea Party is making noise, but the size is to small for what it is up against and to think that there is a number of Republicans who do not support the tea party as a whole illustrates that many of the same screw ball republicans will gain power again.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
And i'd say seeing as racism was essentially the defining issue of the 20th CENTURY, i'd say it still resonates quite well. Want to know WHY it's still so important, take a walk around the outskirts of DC rather than disrespectfully picnicking on the mall
tmmzc85 1 year ago
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Hey Random, It's the 21st Century, you don't even know WHEN you're at, asshole
tmmzc85 1 year ago
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tmmzc85 1 year ago
No, you Tea-Party people aren't racist. You're just idiots!
TheBizarreGuitarist7 1 year ago
It's interesting how people can't get over "racism". Come on people it's not the 20th Century! I know of a lot of Blacks who are in the Tea Party. I mean are they all racist also? Obama is bad, he doesn't deserve to be where he is. End of Story.
RandomEntertainmenYT 1 year ago
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Bismarck3000 1 year ago
@RandomEntertainmenYT
whooops never mind thought U said it was the 20th cen.
My mistake. lol.
Bismarck3000 1 year ago
Let's face it- there ARE some pretty crazy and hateful people at the tea parties with a lot of really ridiculous signs, some of which refer to Obama as a Nazi or refer to his healthcare plan as "something the Nazis would do" or call it "socialism" without having an intellectual debate on WHY the healthcare bill sucks. The teabaggers are a bunch of zombies, for the most part. They just listen to their right-wing overlords and Glenn Beck-style propaganda.
MoronsOnYT 1 year ago
@MoronsOnYT glenn beck is a dick head and is not a leader of the tea party.
i bet if you said bush was a nazi no-one would care. people only care because they ont want to seem racist. people are pussies
rtljmc 1 year ago
I wouldn't say that the tea party is inherently racist, but tea party LEADERS need to acknowledge and tell the cranks in their ranks to STFU. Why do they get so defensive when someone simply asks them to denounce the more divisive element? How hard is it to just admit that a small minority of wackjobs exist, like in every organization, tell them to get outta here, and move on? Why is Mark Williams being so damn defensive and acting like there are ZERO (not even 1?) racists in tea parties?
MoronsOnYT 1 year ago
@MoronsOnYT And Williams needs to quit acting like there are ZERO dumb signs in the tea parties. OF COURSE there are! People have been documenting all the really ridiculous signs and tea partier rhetoric since the start of these rallies. Mark Williams claims it's because of "Crash the tea parties", which was founded only a couple months ago. The tea parties started over a year ago.
MoronsOnYT 1 year ago
@MoronsOnYT
Yeah, and YOU need to acknowledge the ISSUES!
Yes! there are some fringe racist elements! We KNOW!
Now how about you acknowledge the issues and DROP the race card.
DoomHippie 1 year ago
@MoronsOnYT race is not even the issue, I have met a couple of people from other races that are tea partiers. I see more propaganda from the left than from the right.
Reggid123 1 year ago
@MoronsOnYT good comment . but there is also racist black people supporting obama! so is it racist that only white people can be called racist?
rtljmc 1 year ago
@rtljmc
the thing is, those black people aint running for office, unlike ms "if you get raped by your dad, make lemonade".
Seriously, women like her do not make the tea party look good.
MitchofSmeg 1 year ago
@MitchofSmeg you do realize that the american president position has been a racist organization until obama was elected. so why do people think they can call the tea party racist just because non of there leadersare black. and why dont people say theres no asians ? it seems that only black people can be discriminated against. and that my friend is racist in itself..........
rtljmc 1 year ago
Um... Doran, there are painfully obvious examples of racism from the Tea Party leaders. The top links in their food chain are racists.
FrostbittenWolf 1 year ago
@2bpilot It's a manipulation tactic, 2b. If they can make you feel bad about the way you believe, then they can change your mind, and since your ideals are the foundation of what you organize about, the organization will then fall apart. Change the way you feel leads to changing the way you belief, thus changing your actions. It's taught in RETB.
They attempt the same thing against Christianity. But if you know who you are, then they can't define you, so their arguments are insane.
BewareofFlatteries 1 year ago
@USAGymnast You can try to put a pool in your backyard or you can live in a city with a pool, it just a question of which is smarter.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@USAGymnast It is awesome, government health care is twice as efficent and education is near the top. Of course this is Canada!
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
@USAGymnast No France has the highest labour hour productivity. It's productivity is from low hours, high unemployment and making luxery goods.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 1 year ago
yr Neo-Liberal!) that the day that that happens all these rights you think yr fighting for WILL disappear because you, just like yr rights, will no longer be expressions without value, rights and people will be commodities in the market, just like everything else.
tmmzc85 1 year ago
Also I guess yr all very ungrateful for the public wonders that fill yr day to day. And since I am guessing most of you Reps. who bother posting on Youtube, are the great unwashed sheeple masses, AMERICA IS A MIXED ECONOMY we are part socialist, oh shit, ITS BEEN THAT WAY SINCE DAY 1. There has never in Modern history, so far as I understand ANY perfectly independent capital market, it's never existed and I assure you Neo-Liberal freaks (thats right if you HATE socialism yr not only liberal...
tmmzc85 1 year ago
Actually that isn't entirely untrue, it is just irrelevant. The Nazi's were the Workers party, but it's a pretty obvious fallacy to equate the Nazi's w/ Socialism considering how many socialist gov'ts have existed and continue to do so without the ethnic cleansing and totalitarian regime that more accurately reflects WWII Germany. Hitler parallels are for people who don't know history/politics/rhetoric/reality... Just more semantic BS which contains no real information, just fear
tmmzc85 1 year ago
the government is totally out of control.
greensquall 1 year ago
yr mortal and you don't want to fuck yr spouse any more, -and I am just gonna quit the rant cause it's not worth it, you people can't give me a single coherent sentence. calstategop you've just said nothing, congratulations! What are THOSE reasons? What rights are you protecting? Anyone i've ever met that took TP seriously (that's Tea Party, folks) makes me feel nothing but uneasy. The gov't IS the people, yr just a solitary fool.
tmmzc85 1 year ago
@tmmzc85 yes its the people, but what if it treaded on your rights? what would you do?
Reggid123 1 year ago
There is no tea "party" so far as I understand it or as the unemployed enthusiast trying to sell me Don't Tread On Me shirts this past 4th explained it to me, it isn't a political Party, though it has some candidates running with "party" backing; While in fact: yr mostly a bunch of washed up "Me" gen-ers w/ nothing better to do than bitch cause you failed to build any real wealth and the world doesn't look much like the Cleaver's anymore, and no one wants to buy yr shit, and as it it turns out
tmmzc85 1 year ago
@tmmzc85 then what was the "Boston Tea Party then?" lol. thats were it came from? where else did it come from?
Reggid123 1 year ago
Tea baggers don't want to talk about the issues w/ people who think differently, they just want to hear an echo, though that is just the tip of their hypocrisy
tmmzc85 1 year ago
I like how all of us "progressives" or "liberals" on here are obviously non-contributing unemployed drunk dope fiends, who have clearly not done their research. How about "we" as people who care more about (other) people than we do hollow choice and the pursuit of capital as the highest virtue.
tmmzc85 1 year ago
There are still groceries in the store, yep. And Detroit hasn't rioted yet, nope. Well than lets see how this plays out, cause the past decade was a pure shit show son.
And do you know how to make a Refrigerator, like w/ the coil and all, from scratch, no? Think about it.
tmmzc85 1 year ago
@tmmzc85 You're the one who isn't thinking my friend and you should hurry before it's too late. A lot of liberals are waking up and seeing how the democrats r destroying capitalism that made the greatest country in the world. Just think, why do Mexicans want to come here, what's wrong with their country? They have given their government too much power and it has become massively corrupt. The same thing will happen here. Just remember politicians don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
StopWhining111 1 year ago
@tmmzc85 Try getting your information from other outlets beside mainstream media. They are in the tank for socialistic policies.They are considered elite and won't be affected by them. Do some research about what Lenin did to his own people in the 1930's when during socialism .The New York times wouldn't even cover the slaughter of millions of Russians. How about how hollywood actors and Obama admin officials who praise Castro. He has more journalists imprisoned and beaten than other country
StopWhining111 1 year ago
@StopWhining111 "Try getting your information from other outlets beside mainstream media" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you mean like youtube?! How about the Cato, Ludvwig Von Mises? ...what b.s.
Wow! You know the names of Communist leaders! WTF is yr point, and what Obama official/ quote are you referring to? Yr a little name dropper just like the vlogger, you don't know any facts, you just drop proper nouns that are semantically related in yr own deluded little mind to concepts you don't grasp.
tmmzc85 1 year ago
Ur Dave, for someone who studied law (3rd rate Law School), I would assume you understand what a non sequitur argument is ... but then maybe not.. My comment was about your defense of the Tea Party as not having racists. I offered one example of why I perceive "some" of them to behave like racists but then you come back with some statement about Bush. You changed the topic.
You are fatuously attempting to position yourself as a "News Reporter" but you are extremely bias in your reporting.
akkaoi 1 year ago
Uh sir, your use of loaded labels and highly charged words greatly affects your goal to be taken seriously. Some folks of the Tea Party seem to be racists ... when I see a Tea Party rally and observe several signs (on T.V.) that show nooses around President Obama's neck, it doesn't take much to leave folks with the perception of racist behavior (btw: that was just one example).
akkaoi 1 year ago
@akkaoi It was also used on bush, several times. along with, hmmm, wonder what it would have been like to murder bush. what would happen then. Was that also raciist
daveh69 1 year ago
The tactic is called "RACE BATING" .. If I don't like something all i have to say is.. "Your just saying that cuz I'm (insert skin tone here) aren't you (insert combatants alternative skin tine here in attitude of offensive distain).. It's a method taught by Alinsky in his crappy book called "Rules for Assholes"..oh, wait.. I mean "RULES FOR RADICALS" (sorry i get those mixed up).. ~a~
AdonisKingAXC 1 year ago
Question: Is the Tea Party Racist?
Answer: No, The Tea Party is not Racist...There you have it...:)
billydumont 1 year ago