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When Ted Ginn returned those two kickoffs vs the jets it pissed bjchit off cause it made him look stupid. Watch how fast he tries to hide this post. He aint no dolphin fan...he is a strait up hater and he still wishes miami drafted Brady quinn.
And what did he do in the games after that? Oh right, take the ball out from 5 yards deep in his own endzone and fail to get to his own 15 yard line. He makes two good plays for once, that totally negiates every single drop, fumble, muffed punt or kickoff, times he ran out of bounds a yard short of the first down marker, times he ran out of his own endzone several yards deep and failed to make the 20. I'm over Quinn. Why can't you get over Ted Ginn, faggot?
I seriously wouldn't have minded seeing Ginn and Marshall on the field at the same time...that really would have opened things up for Marshall and not to mention Ginn's kickoff return ability could have really helped out the FINS...but with the horrible play calling and retard for an OC we had who knows how much of a difference Ginn would have made...
I was wondering how long it would take you to say that. FYI, Ginn's missed the last 2 games with an injury. So it wouldn't have mattered if he was still a Dolphin.
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@bjchit actually...the game or practice scenario where he got hurt would have been different and is very subjective. Hard to duplicate those exact circumstances that got him injured if he is 2500 miles away. We are talking about 'butterfly effect' in a sense.
Wow, a reply from you that didn't sound like typed fellatio. I'm a little shocked. At this point Ginn is a 4th string WR, and honestly, if he makes it through the year as a 49er, I'd be surprised.
He still has more catches at this point in the season then 90% of all the other receviers in the leauge, and is still one of the best 5 receivers in the game. What's Ginn doing again? Nothing on offense, struggling to get to the 20 on kickoffs, and running backwards on punts. Gee, I wonder why Miami shipped him? Who knows, maybe it's just the number 19. And maybe you're not a dumbass.
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@bjchit 49ers aint movin the ball with an elite running back, elite tight end, and above average receiver in Crabtree. Seems to me 49ers got issues so that makes them not a good barometer. He's about equal to Vincent Jackson. I'll take Eddie Royal, Deshaun Jackson, Chad Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant (still has a lot to learn...huge upside) Devin Hester...have I hit 5 yet? Unlike you...I understand the need to S T R E T C H the field.
Ginn isn't even on the field for most of the game, and you're still trying to say he's a weapon? Give it a rest. Vincent Jackson? The guy who hasn't played a game this year? You really are a Goddamn idiot. Royal is 3rd fucking string. DeSean Jackson is the name you're probably looking for, and is what you envision Ginn to be. CJ is on the downside of his career and in the mist of his worst season since his rookie year. Ok there's 2 of 5. Correct, but he's still raw. Hester? Are you damaged?
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@bjchit Since you're so particular about spelling, (when you don't have ground to stand on debate wise) perhaps you were trying to say midst...I didnt know football players had a mist of a season. And the bottom line is since the Fins have traded GINN their record has gotten worse AND seems to me they couldnt even fuckin move the chains. Would have been nice to see Marshall and Ginn on the field at the same time. I keep forgetting that I'm the idiot not you....my bad douche bag
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@bjchit 11-5 2008 douchebag. offense has become worse anyway. only the most ignorant dolphin fans realize Miami lacked a true deep threat this year. Hartline kinda fast but not lightning. Holy shit it is you who is the imbisil not me.
And then the nexy year they were 7-9 with Ginn still on the team dumb fuck. 7-9 again this year. And if you really want to go that way, I could point out that Miami had their worst season ever with Ginn on the team at 1-15, but that's irrelevent. Like Ginn is for the 49ers, and just like your opinion is. Fuck off.
I understand the need, but Ginn isn't going to be the guy who does that. He doesn't fight for balls, can't get on the field with that world class speed of his, won't take a hit, can't dependably catch a pass, doesn't try, and just isn't very good. I don't get why you can't see this.
@bjchit yeah ted ginn is a horrible wr. he is probably the fastest yes i said the fastest player in the nfl though. too bad he cant catch a pass to save his fucking life though. what a waste of talent.
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@wild1033 Really...cause I could've swore I saw him catch a deep pass for TD vs one of the elite corners in the game. Was I dreaming? Ginn wasn't the most reliable receiver in the game but he did bring some intangibles to the table. Intangibles that the FINS desperately missed this past season.
@panamajack9 he had big play making ability for sure but he think he's a good kick/punt returner at best. he will never be given the chance to be a starting wr though. he's not consistent at all at catching the ball.
Look dipshit, that asshole just goes around saying the Dolphins suck, and that Ginn is going to be good. I've tried to engage him for a polite debate, but look you, he just stuck on Ginn and being an asshole. And now here you are, projecting your BS onto me, so I'll just tell you what I told him, fuck off.
Not only do I not care, but I just got to wonder what kind of fag are you. I mean, sending me messages at 2 in the A.M.? You are smoking something other than Ginn's dick if you think he'll amount to anything this year. If there is a football season this year.
@bjchit Just because you live on east coast doesnt mean I do. No wonder your so dumb....you think I have to live on east coast to be a dolphin fan. Trust me. I'll be calling you out for being stupid for many more years. For your sake...I hope Brady Quinn plays another down in NFL.
@bjchit 1st play on this video took big hit and hung on. 1:22 took big hit. 1:57 took big hit and hung on...WTF are you talking about? You are just a faggot hater that don't know shit about anything.
After multiple 7-9 seasons in a row, the Bills screwed everything up last year by going 6-10. Had the Bills gone 7-9 again, I heard the league was going to change their name to the 7-9's...The Toronto 7-9's.
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@dolfan984 Right...first play chad throws way too short TG had to slow up and play jumpball...IF Pennington had an arm TG would have scored TD with 15 yard distance closest defender. He made him look good alright..just not the way you say he did.
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he has a lot of potential. he doesnt look like a first rounder but i think he could add a lot to the niners as a 2nd or 3rd receiver. hit him in space and he'll make big plays the dolphins used him the wrong way
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Wow... He's A Niner Now.! Not To Diss The Dolphins But How Do You Trade A Good WR For A 5th Round Pick.? Brandon Marshall Must Be An Expensive Ho... Lol. Well GO NINERS.!
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@bjchit Why Do You Guys Hate On Ginn.? It Aint His Fault For Not Having A Good QB.! Alex Smith Is Just To Get Better.! So He'll Be Good With Us... And We're A Rich Team.! LMao.
He had two. He sucks. Goddamn are you stupid. You do realize Miami now has several different owners, all of the with more money than we will both see in a lifetime.
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@bjchit Dude he didn't say we had more money. He was pointing out that our owners are "cheap". But that fact is lost on you. And Pennington is an AVERAGE QB. Who was the other "good" QB? Henne? If he was good your team would not be relying on the Wildcat formation for 2/3 of their on the field possession. You can dress it up all you like in the end it still looks like a pig. Almost the entire Jets game was Wildcat. That says your QB sucks or your Line does. Or both.
He said they were a rich team. Sorry if I couldn't pick the tone up over the internet, DUDE. Average? Hm, is that why he was the second best qb two years ago, or the most accutrate qb in the history of the leauge? Now who's pulling stats out of their ass? Hypocrite. I assume you mean the Monday night game, in which they used it about 12 times, and Henne threw the ball 26 times, completeing 20 of his passes, good enough for a 77% completion rating. Jake Long, maybe you've heard of him.
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@bjchit Hey if I got his meaning you should have no problems getting that... That was two years ago. And *ahem* he was NOT the most accurate QB in the history of the league. What's Steve Young's career passer rating? No way in hell Pennington has a better rating. Oh and wasn't WARNER number 1 for a time too? Pennington is exactly what I said he was. AVERAGE. And no, what was their Run to Pass ratio in that game? Try learning the definition before using words like hypocrite. U mite hurt yourself.
Or maybe you're injecting your own meaning into it. Or maybe I'm autistic. Who knows. Completion percentage, DUDE. Not QB rating. Chad's is 66.1%. Steve's is 64.3%. Pennington played his whole career with average wide receivers too. He's anything but average. 1:1.1. They ran the Wildcat all of 16 times during that game. That means they ran the ball out of a regular formation 19 times. And they also threw the ball twice that game out of the Wildcat. Your move.
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@bjchit Well I'ma leave you with this. He ain't won jack his QB rating is more important than his completion percentage and his injuries are the result of standing behind a crap line. Who know what he COULD have been. We jsut know what he ain't and that's above average. He's not. Sorry, but he's been in the league how long? Go take your hand out of his likenesses rear end put him down and move on. I know what an above average QB looks like. I'm old enough to have seen a few of them.
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Respond to this video...Also you are saying they didn't run predominately wild cat? How many series they run offensively? Personally I don't know but what I do know is that they ran WC for most of the damn game. Your assessment is that Henne is a good QB. Well we had Shaun "duck hurler" Hill. He has a 11 and 6 career record. Some of our fans lost their freakin minds and started actin like he was 2nd coming of... well anyway I think you and they need to take a time out personally. Henne is OKAY.
That game? 9. That means they ran the Wildcat less then twice per drive. They didn't run it "most of the damn game", it's just that you think they did because most of the plays ended up on ESPN. Shaun Hill was a fuckin backup from a community college, Henne was a 4 year starter at Michigan, the fact that you'd be dumb enough to try and compar the two tells me all I need to know what you know about football.
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@bjchit First off your stupid obsession with College Starters. Joe Montana was a CAREER BACKUP at Notre Dame. STFU about college. We're at the pros now. I've seen PLENTY of crap NFL QBs' who were Starters at that level. Should I start naming them all? Don't think YouTube gives us enough room but... I saw the game btw. I'm not going off "ESPN" highlights. And the only comparison made is that Henne is at THIS time an average player. Wasn't comparing him with anyone. Get up, wipe your chin,shut up.
Obsession? Are you high? And Montana started the last two years at Notre Dame. When you try to compare a backup qb from a community college who has as many starts in his career as a guy who was a starter for a Divsion 1 school all for years did in one season, it makes you look bad. Really? Could've fooled me. Then why bring up Shaun Hill in the first place? Anyway, Henne has shown what he can do with receviers who wouldn't be starters anywhere else.
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@bjchit Hey dumbass I think you need to do some research. Joe was NEVER the Starter @ ND. Seriously. #3 Ended up playing the big games cause the Starters got killed and he came in and won the big games. True. Look it up. And AGAIN where was the comparison? I'm comparing YOU to the idiot fans of my team who thought that Hill was a worthy Starter. You see? You and They belong in straight jackets and padded cells. Got it now? Henne MAY be a good QB. My OPINION is that he's average. Now get bent.
I did look it up. He was the starter his last two years there. He probably would've been a 3 year starter if he didn't break his pinky, then seperated his shoulder. Joe only came off the bench his first year there. Fine, whatever. The fact reamins that Henne is actually ment to be the starter, and has shown what he can do several times. The fact that you somehow think I'm acting like he's God's gift to football is just baffling to me. I would tell you to kiss my ass, but I'm sure you'd enjoy it.
@bjchit Thats exactly the response I would expect from someone with no good answer. Funny thing is that response makes more sense than anything you've ever said to this point.
No, that was the response you got for the mangled message you sent me last night, that you seemed to feel the need to replace the message before that that was actually literate. And since you did that, I am finally fully convinced you are a troll. And not a very funny one either.
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@bjchit Sorry I was typing with one hand and in a hurry. I understand if you have no reasonable counter to my points you will just nit pick my spelling and grammer. Sane people, or people that understand football, would just concede that Pennington has a noodle for an arm and always has. So TG never had a chance to show his forte'. You know bjhaterchit...you'd make a really good philly fan....fit right in. HATER
I've offered a countering point to everyone of half baked thoughts, and all you can ever do at this point is just repeat back to me what you just said, so you'll have to excuse me if I find that to be more then a little bit annoying. I already did concede to that point you twice baked moron, you just either didn't see it because you're too busy covering your Ted Ginn Jr. poster with yet another stain, or understand it because you're too stupid.
And like I said before, TED GINN JR. DOES NOT HAVE THE HANDS TO BE A WR. Wow, what a wit. Hope you weren't up all night thinking that one over. Since he was traded for a mere 5th round pick, wouldn't that mean I was right to critize Ginn?
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@bjchit CRITIZE? you thrice baked piehole puncher. Don't ever 'CRITICIZE' my spelling again. I've seen other mistakes in spelling you've made but felt it petty to call you out on them until you did it to me twice.
Thrice baked piehole puncher? What in the fuck are you smoking over there? I only care enough about my spelling to make it legible, but if you're going to cliam to be a Dolphins fan, then get the players names right. Otherwise, it makes you look like a moron. I wasn't doing it to be petty, I was trying to do you a favor, course you're too fucking stupid to get it.
Shut the fuck up you dipshit. It was two passes in the first game of preseason in the middle of a God damn monsoon. Everybody has moved on except you. Get over it you asshole.
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@bjchit It was sprinkling....anyway...So you're telling me NOBODY caught the ball during that game at all...because it was the first game and it was raining? Funny how you can purge excuses whenever you choose.
The infield was a puddle of mud, don't try and tell me it was sprinkling you sack of lying shit. There were a lot of people who had trouble holding onto it, as the 8 fumbles in that game can attest to. It's not an excuse if it's the truth, troll.
@panamajack9, dude face it. Ginn is a mediocre wide receiver. He's got foot speed but he's lousy at running routes, he's inconsistent at catching balls and he shows minimal effort at picking up yards after the catch. For Christ sake, Davone Bess out shined Ginn last year. That's pretty bad. There's a reason why he went for a lousy fifth round pick. Ginn isn't valuable, at all.
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@jdlund Funny cause I just watched the Jets game on NFL rewind this past Sunday. Devonne best dropped a pass with no one around him just before half that could have set them up for a FG. Then he proceeded to fumble a punt deep in Dolphin territorry that led to a Jet TD that would've lost the game for them if not for Ginn's heroics. NO VALUE? your setting my idiot alarm off again.
@panamajack9, I never said Devonne was a great receiver. He's not. I just said he looked better than Ginn last season, and he did. Ginn was traded for a fifth round draft pick, and frankly that is precisely what his value is. He has speed but he is a lousy route runner, drops passes and shows minimal effort. Pennington and Henne aren't great QBs but good receivers get more production from far shittier QBs. Christ he barely broke 700 yards once, two seasons ago. He's mediocre, at best.
@jdlund Devonne Bess is a great rcver and I'm happy to have him. He has his own skill set which is to make tough catches. Does he drop passes? Yes. Does he make tuff catches? Yes. Does TG make tough catches? Yes. The catches you remember him dropping the most is in the colts game on Monday night. Pennington gave him a jump ball when he should have led him towards the middle of the end zone. TG's speed makes up for his occasional drop.
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@jdlund If he is a mediocre receiver then how the hell does he put up 177 yards against an NFL defense with a Qb that has a noodle for an arm. If Chad Pennington had an arm, the very first play on this highlight would have gone for six. Its only because of his route running that he could've picked up any yards with Pnngton at qb. Watch the video...he makes some tuff catches too.
Jesus Christ. You're really using the fact that he had a career game against a medicore defense as proof that he's a good receiver? He's a bad receiver because he was in the top 5 in drops last year and had a YAC of under 1.
@panamajack9 I hate getting into the Ginn debates, because there's always that lone ranger that thought he was good, but yes, Marshall is a GREAT replacement for Ginn. Yeah Ginn may have won both Jets games for us, but he also lost the Colts and Saints game for us, plus however many more games he dropped and easy pass. He's on the 49ers now bud, move on, either with him or with the dolphins, I could care less which one.
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@Blaznkwest If you looked at the highlights closely...the saints game ginn caught up and knocked the ball out of the saints guys hands just before he reached the Endzone. And the refs blew the call on the td before halftime...clock should have run out. The colts game Pennington threw Ginn a 'jump ball' when he should have just led him towards middle of the end zone. I can see how an ignorant football fan would think that about the colts game...but you are wrong.
@panamajack9 It's pointless to argue, you must have not seen that game. I at least REMEMBER two very catchable passes in the endzone that should have been caught, including the "jumpball" you claim was so difficult. As an NFL reciever, you are expected to catch anything that hits both palms of your hands. The saints game, Ginn practically kicked the ball up to the defenders for them to intercept, but yes I do agree he punched the ball out, too little too late.
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@Blaznkwest you obviously didnt remember that the dbs hands were all over Ginns forearm when he went up for that jump ball.. Why throw Ginn a jumpball...throw Fitzgerald a jumpball....not some guy who is 5'11"...Very few receivers make the catch when it is that contested. I bet Pennington himself would admit that wasnt the best idea. Dont forget the saints game Refs debockle just before halftime. Refs gave the saints two tds they didnt deserve.
That's not even the pass he was talking about. He means the one where Ginn dropped a sure touchdown in the back of the endzone, that he blames Pennington for even though you're not supposed to throw late over the middle.
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@bjchit look at the replay again...are you blind...throwing over the middle late was a better option than throwing a Jump ball to a 5'11" guy who needs separation to catch the ball. duh
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@Blaznkwest Anybody that really knows football knows that Pennington should have helped Ginn get open by throwing anything other than a jump ball. Ask any quarterback to dissect that play and they will tell you that Chad Pennington screwed up on that throw.
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@Blaznkwest Chad Henne lost the Titans game and the Steelers game. So what? Any player that can win a game virtually all by himself (Jets) and beat Derelle Revas deep for a TD...you don't get rid of. TG whould have more tds with the dolphins but Pennington couldnt throw it far enough and Henne often over threw him.
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@bjchit been a dolphin fan since before you were kicked off your moms teet. Which by some of your actions leads me to believe that wasn't all that long ago..At least you're not marking ALL of my posts as spam because you don't agree with me. You only do that to some now. Completely childish
And yet, I've never seen you say go Dolphins or anything of the like once. You only brag about Ted Ginn. Maybe if you weren't such an asshole I wouldn't.
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@jdlund Did he run a Mediocre route to beat Revis on Monday night? You know Revis...the same guy to shut down Ochocinco....Randy Moss....you remember him?
@panamajack9, he had one good play against Revis and he scored the ONLY TD he had last season. Your point being? How many catches did he have the next time the Dolphins played the Jets? Zero. One play doesn't somehow make him not mediocre. A season is the result of a lot more than one play.
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@bjchit Miami has needed a deep threat and an elite kick/punt return guy for many years now...they finally get one. and ignorant fans run him out of town. Too many people only remember the dropped passes and totally forget about the tough catches. Ask BJCHIT if he remembers Ginn Making any difficult catches and he will tell you NO. Ignorant fans were expecting Ginn to be on the same level as Chad Ochocinco or Randy Moss...His skill set is just not the same as those guys. Now fins have no deeptht
Ginn was never an elite anything, and all anybody had to do was jam him, and he's no longer a deep threat. And if he's going to be making $14 million a year he better be fucking Randy Moss. Well maybe if he could've made the easy ones I could remember the tough ones. They have Brian Hartline and Brandon Marshall, both of whom go deep, so yea.
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@bjchit shows just how ignorant and stupid you really are. Ginn is an elite kick/punt returner. Anyone that returns 2, hundred yard kickoffs in one game is an elite returner. Your boy Brady quin about to lett Tebow ahead of him on the depth chart. Marshall is not a deep threat...he can beat one v one coverage with his size but he is not a speed guy.
Which is why he has returned all of 2 kicks this preseason. Wow, he has one good game as a returner. That must mean he's really good. Not just that he actually manned up for a change. No. Quinn is still #2 on the depth chart, so anything short of cataclysmic organ failure is going to keep him there if Orton mangages to hold the starters job. Marshall only ran a 4.52 in the Combine, so yea, he actually can beat guys ith his speed. The ball still hit him in the hands. You're just really stupid.
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@bjchit Too bad 4.52 is actually really slow for a receiver. There are many linebackers that can hit 4.5 on the fourty. Thanks for making my point for me. Don't talk to me about preseason...any knowledgeable fan knows that preseason means nothing. Except for when BM drops his first two passes thrown to him...shows that every wr drops a pass here and there. Trying to compare TG to elite rcvers is your big mistake. Now that Dolphins signed Clifton Smith should fill the hole left by Ginn. almost
That was before the draft, before he got stronger, and faster. That was my point that went over your head. It means a lot if you aren't given reps at a postion. How very hypocritical of you to think the preseason doesn't matter. Yes, every recevier drops a pass every now and then when it's pouring ass rain, you sack of shit. I've never compared Ted Ginn to anybody. That was you, dipshit. If I would compare him to anybody, it would be Braylon Edwards, for their ability to drop it like it's hot.
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@bjchit maybe it went over my head because you NEVER said or implied anything other than BM can beat people with his speed. Funny that you think 4.5 is fast for an NFL receiver. Dont try to wiggle out of what you said ahole. Shows how much you really know about football. But, I've known how little that is from the beginning. When you expected Ted Ginn to be a possesion receiver. Thinking that Penningtons Jump ball vs colts was a good decision by Chad. moron.
It's fast enough for a guy who's 6'4" and can get anything thrown up at him. By posseion I assume you mean being able to catch the ball in the first fucking place. This coming from the guy who thought Ashley Lelie and DeShaun Foster were options for the 49ers. He got the ball in Ginn hands didn't he? Hell, if Ginn caught the other pass in the endzone, he wouldn't have had to do that.
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@bjchit funny thing is you waste more time hating Ginn than I do sticking up for him..I've seen hateful posts on almost every TG video on youtube by you...Many of which I have not posted anything. So I ask YOU...Don't you have anything better to do?
Clifton Smith, does he have a lowlite of dropping passes like Ginn does? Is that how he's going to fill his spot? What's that? Smith is an actual player and even made the Pro Bowl? Oh, well I guess he's a better player then Ginn could hope to be.
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@bjchit The problem I've had with you BJ is that since Ginn was drafted you could never give the guy a break. You hated him from day one and all he did was let the Miami draft him when they did. You couldn't give the guy a fair assessment when he had a good game but jumped on his ass when he didn't have a good game. That qualifies you as a hater. Alot of people were mad at the draft but came around when they saw Ginn make tough catches and turn reverses into tds or beat Revis Island on MNF.
Well gee jacker, maybe if he hadn't failed to meet my admitally low expections, I wouldn't have minded having him on the team. The problem I've got with you is that it didn't matter to you that Ginn was 4th in the leauge in drops, he's fast. Or if when he did manage to hold onto a pass, he went straight to the ground instead of moving the ball, on the off chance he might get hurt. Or that he had trouble getting to the 15 on kick returns, on the off chance he might've made it past the 20.
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@bjchit You wanted Brady Quin over him and he hasn't proven that he is anything but a carreer backup. Ginn's highlight reel in College is the reason I wanted the Fins to draft him...He was projected to be drafted somewhere around 17-18...But you draft to fit your needs and Henne will prove to be better than Quinn anyway...TG proved that he was worthy of that draft by SINGLE HANDEDLY BEATING JETS. your low expectations were because you lack football understanding. BM is more like 6'3" not 6'4"
Is that it? Or is it because he looked longly into your eyes while signing something for you? Here's the thing though, we didn't a punt returner. We needed a QB. We got 3 now, after one bad season of extremely bad play at that postion. He scored 18 points last year. That's not single handedly beating anybody. And Miami was still 3-3 against the Jets the whole time Ginn was there. My low expections were due to him being drafted solely because Cam Cam knew his family.
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@bjchit By the way...TEBOW was #2 on the depth chart. another epic fail by your information gathering society. I'd rather have the qbs we have now then be stuck with Brady Quinn who can't distinguish himself above Tebow. He would have scored and beat the colts if Chad Pennington gives him anything other than a JUMP BALL like he should have.
Not with the 9th pick of the draft. Nor do you do it because you know the guy. When I posted Quinn was #2 on the depth chart that was a week ago, when he was still listed as such you unbelievable conceited, ignorant piece of shit. Or if he'd just caught the first one in the endzone, or just not set his hands like he was setting a volly ball.
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@bjchit Thats just it...Im the guy that knew Tebow was going to beat out Quin on the depth chart at some point. You must be the OTHER guy. Thank God Miami didn't waste a 9th pick on Brady Quin, as all you ignorant Miami Fans wanted so badly. Just because you are a fan, doesnt make you an inteligent one. If they had wasted that pick on Quin we would still be searching for a QB. You probably wouldve been butt hurt if Matt Lienart was available and not drafted by the fins too.
You never said that, so now you're a bold faced liar. It's Quinn, with 2 n's, you ignorant dick suck. The same could be said for you, asshole. How Teddy doing in San Fran? 3 returns for an 18 yard average? Boy's that's elite right there. No, I was more upset when the Dolphins picked Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees, which started that whole 9th pick of the draft mess anyway. You know, picking a wide recevier with the first pick hasn't exactly been a sure fire way of rebuilding the team lately.
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@bjchit TG already proved he is an elite return guy in college and NFL so your little one game assessment is moronic but par for a dooshbag like yourself. Who really cares how to spell Quinns last name? Only a pencil neck nerd like you would even care even though you knew who I was talking about anyway. Also funny how you talk about the raiders not tackling instead of giving ginn credit for out running the whole team. You are hoplessly clueless and probably always will be.
Okay, what has he done outside of that one Jets game? One punt return for a touchdown. Wow, that's elite. Because you did it 4 times in a row dumbass. I find it funny you deleted a message where you tried to say Ginn was the best Return man Miami ever had, even though he's never made a Pro Bowl, never been voted All Pro, where as guys like Mercury Morris and Freddie Solomon have. They tried to stop him by running into him, instead of tackling. I know, it worked earlier in the game, but still.
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@bjchit YOU meant to ask me what he's done besides the two jets games right? I mean beating Derrelle Revis is easy or does it happen all the time? How did Ocho Cinco do vs Revis? Name all the WR's that have had good games vs him.
TG had many more returns that got called back because of stupid blocks. Ask the Michigan Wolverines if TG is an elite return guy. Ask anybody in the Big ten. Ask the jets if they think he is an elite return guy.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I asked what has he done outside of that one Jets game, RETURNING the ball. And now you're trying to say how good he was in college to apply to say that how he is now in his 4th year in the NFL. Give it up already. I bet if I were to ask the Jets, they would say no. Troy Smith was pretty good against Michigan too, what team is he on now?
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@bjchit funny how you now realize that by me answering your questions and debating you over the last few years all the sudden you complain that I am harrassing you by outsmarting you? I don't get it. I got news for you...just because you cant outwhit or dance around my points doesnt mean I'm harrassing you. Just admit that you're not as knowledgeable about football and we can move on.
I'm saying you're harrassing me by flooding my email with vitriolic messages at all times of days. That is harrassment. And it's because the more I am inevitability proven right about Ginn, the more that irks you, and you take it out on me. So my advice to you is, sack up Nancy and let it go.
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@bjchit its funny how you say in essence Even though the guy won the Jets game virtually all by himself he didn't deserve to be drafted that high. How many players can take over a game from that position? The dolphins were one game away from being a playoff team with Ginn in the starting lineup. I think that makes my point not yours. The refs screwed them out of beating the saints. Henne screwed them out of beating the titans.
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@bjchit Idc if he is 4th in drops because I understand that you need to have a wr that can/will stretch the defense to be succesful and BM doesnt stretch the defense...He draws double coverage but thats it. 4.5 doesnt stretch the defense when every other cb can run faster than that
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@bjchit I just hate to see haters like you that don't ever recognize and appreciate the good things a guy brings to the table. Painfully obvious today that Miami lacks wr to stretch the field. The one time Marshall gets deep, Henne underthrows and BM drops a still catchable ball. Miami NEEDED a qb AND a return guy AND a WR...its a bad Idea to draft a qb in the first 13 picks...so why not get the return guy that can catch ten balls a game vs the colts. thats not nothin
It's hard to recognize what a guy brings to the table when he constanly negates it with bad play. And you saying he's fast over and over and over and over and over and over and over again is not going to change it. Which was also the one time they sent Marshall down the field. And it's the first game of the season. Yea, guys like the Mannings, Bob Griese, Jim McMahon, John Elway, Terry Bradshaw, Steve McNair, Kerry Collins, Joe Namath, Jim Plunkett, Philip Rivers, Donovan McNabb, Troy Akiman....
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@bjchit so turning a reverse into a td vs the raiders and catching a td with two defenders on him vs Seattle is bad? Returning a punt in preseason vs the chiefs is bad? Punt return for td vs Eagles bad? 4 or 5 other kick/punt returns that were called back for penaltys bad? Sure he had a bad game for the saints where he ran wrong route and caused two turnovers. One bad game does not make a bad player. Every receiver has caused an INT due to bad route. Every rcver drops balls. Ask Brandon Marshll
That wouldn't have gone for a touchdown had the Raiders actually tried to tackle him. What was bad was during the Chagers game was the times he kept running out of bounds when Miami was trying to run out the clock in the 4th quarter. I thought the preseason didn't count, asshole. Yes that is bad. You know why? BECAUSE THEY DON'T FUCKING COUNT! Bad game against the Colts when he needed to make a catch, against the Pats, against the Bucs, against the Chargers, against Buffalo, against the Titans.
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@bjchit There are many more Epic Fails when it comes to drafting a qb in the first round. Ryan Leaf, Andre Ware, Tim Couch, Danny Wuerful, Heath Shuler, Matt Leinart, Akili Smith, Brady Quinn, David Carr, David Klingler, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Rick Mirer, Patrick Ramsey, Rex Grossman, JP Lossman, Jim Drunkenmiller, Dan McGwire, Cade McNoun, Jmar Russell, Todd Marenivich. NEVER START AN ARGUMENT WITH SOMEONE SMARTER THAN YOU ARE. Take that advice fool.
Danny Wuerffel was a 4th round pick you idiot. Jeff George was a good qb, he's just an idiot. Rex Grossman is a lot better then people give him credit for. Just look at how well the Bears have done since they benched him. Jim Miller? He was a 6th round pick. And yet you still feel like arguing with me. Weird.
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@bjchit Drafted first overall and multi million $ contract he is a bust to be virtually a carreer backup. The point is that there are far too many fails when it comes to drafting a qb in the first round. I know its hard for you to comprehend but that is the point.
You can't do much when you get hit every time you drop back. You tried inflate your list using guys as far as the 6th round where they were not expected to be anything other then game managers. I however used the guidelines you set about using only the first 13 picks in the draft. If I wanted to use the whole first round, I would've used guys like Y.A. Tittle, Earl Morrel, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Ken O'Brien, Steve Young, Roman Gabriel, John Brodie, Len Dawson, Bill Wade, Phil Simms, Bernie Kosar
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@bjchit As much as you like to dance around my point...I was saying that it is much easier to screw up a draft by taking a qb. You draft an elite return guy that can help you at receiver it is more difficult to screw up. And Ginn had an uphill climb from the beginning because of where he was drafted and ignorant fans so pro bowl not an option. Nothing you can say can make drafting a qb in first round less risky. THATS MY POINT QUIT DANCING AROUND IT.
And my point is, it's even easier to screw up a draft by picking a punt returner with the 9th pick just because you know the guy. Just look at how many of Cameron's picks are still with the team. He had an uphill climb because he's not that good. I didn't realize I was dancing around anything, I thought I was saying it's not as bad an idea as you make it out to be in your attempt to make picking a kick returner with a broken foot not look like a horrible decision.
I never hated Ginn you fuck wit, I just stated I never cared for the pick, and the fact he was traded for a 5th rounder showed me why I wasn't wrong to think that. And you are a troll. You show that by asshole at every given moment.
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@bjchit 4.5 is the speed of a safety or fast linebacker...Most dbs should be able to beat or keep up with 4.5. There are a thousand rcvers in college that run a 4.5 fourty. That is NOT speed. Brandon Marshall's skillset is he is fast for his size, strength. I bet Vernon Davis can stay with Brandon Marshall.
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@bjchit Uummm Sure Pal. He's Gunna Prove You Guys Wrong Wit Us.! Watch. And The Owners Are Prolly Drug Dealers Lyk Scarface.! Hahhaha Jp. Bt Tell The Owners To Change That Lame Mascot Nd Colors.! Hahaha.
You mean watch him make maybe 15 catches all year, and get about 20 yards per return? The Owners are actaully movie stars, musicians, tennis stars, and realitors. But way to paint yourself as a moron. Maybe you guys should move and change your mascot, so you'll no longer be confused as the San Trancisco 69ers, two things that city is known for.
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@bjchit Foo Your Hella Lame Bro.! Hahaha. You Neva Stop Typing.! Goddamn Ima Stop Cuz Yu Neva Quit.... I Guess Online Is Yor Life.! Hah. But Stop Hating On Ginn Foo 4Real.! Name Me Some Actual Owners Of The Team.? And You Must B The Real Homo Not My Superbowl Team.! BlowJob Shit.! Hah. Ssshhhhh.!
I'd rather be lame than an idiot. Which you clearly are. I'm the loser, even though you reposnd to my posts just as fast as I do to yours, okay. Does your brain serve any purpose besides keeping your skull from caving in? They haven't won in 15 years, nobody cares. That was about as witty as I expect you to be.
Miami Dolphins owners: Stephen Ross (95%) and Wayne Huizenga (5%) (Unknown percentage of ownership by Gloria Estefan, Emilio Estefan, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Venus Williams, Serena Williams)
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Dude just stop. Make every excuse as to why Ginn let you down that you want. Soft...Vid clearly shows that he wasn't. Fumble prone One ball put on the ground out of bounds and he had a 2 TD return game as well. I just think your squad didn't know what to do with him. Instead of hating on Ginn you should be hating on your team's management cause they didn't have a plan in place if they got him.
No. Actually it does. Instead of using his blazing speed to try and get by a corner who looks to weigh the same as he does, he jukes and jives so much a fucking middle linebacker caught him from behind. It's just lucky he was near the sidelines when that happened. Where did I ever say he was fumble prone? Man, you guys will just say anything won't you?
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@bjchit Dude shut up. He put the brakes on to keep the play alive only got caught cause he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head or rear views installed on his helmet. Two moves TOTAL. "Juked and jived so much" LMAO!!!
ALSO regarding the fumbles. That was for ALL the whiny Fins fans who say that pathetic crap. One fan in particular said he fumbles 20% of the time. My math ain't the best in the world but I would bet money that if you divided his touches by fumbles its not 20%.
He has the speed to blow by a guy with the angle, but is to scared to do so most of the time. That's what happened on that play. In fact, he actually could've gone by that guy if he didn't just stop for no reason. Even Panamajack can admit to that. I've never seen a single Dolphins fan say that he fumbles alot, just that he does it at the most inopportune times, DUDE.
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@bjchit Pennington NEVER had the arm to utilize Ginns strengths. Pennington coulndnt put the ball out in front of Ginn even on a 3 step drop. Alex Smith likes to overthrow rcvers....Ginn should help him out beautifully.
And outside of that game, what was he doing that couldn't be done by anybody else in the leauge? The reason why he was traded, was because he had the 4th worst drop % in the NFL. The fact that he could occassionly return the ball past the 30 yard line wasn't worth having him. And Henne is not a "?", he is the real deal. Now that he has Brandon Marshall, you're gonna eat your words.
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How many yards he have in this game? How bout your team get solid players around him Fins fans. And he was booed from the get go. If you don't remember the '07 draft, when he was picked EVERY Fins fan in the building wanted Brady Quinn. It was so bad that it would not have surprised me if there were riots in the isles.
Dumb ass dolphins traded Ginny. Now niners got em!!!! Yay
CopperheadViper 3 months ago
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When Ted Ginn returned those two kickoffs vs the jets it pissed bjchit off cause it made him look stupid. Watch how fast he tries to hide this post. He aint no dolphin fan...he is a strait up hater and he still wishes miami drafted Brady quinn.
panamajack9 5 months ago
And what did he do in the games after that? Oh right, take the ball out from 5 yards deep in his own endzone and fail to get to his own 15 yard line. He makes two good plays for once, that totally negiates every single drop, fumble, muffed punt or kickoff, times he ran out of bounds a yard short of the first down marker, times he ran out of his own endzone several yards deep and failed to make the 20. I'm over Quinn. Why can't you get over Ted Ginn, faggot?
bjchit 5 months ago
did yall see the juke at :50
yprice041 6 months ago
I seriously wouldn't have minded seeing Ginn and Marshall on the field at the same time...that really would have opened things up for Marshall and not to mention Ginn's kickoff return ability could have really helped out the FINS...but with the horrible play calling and retard for an OC we had who knows how much of a difference Ginn would have made...
KeepingTheFaith777 1 year ago
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FUCK ALL DA HATIN!! WHAT HAPPENED TO ASHTON YOUBOTY FROM 0:49-52?? ROTFL!!!!
jmateen1 1 year ago
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Miami is 0-1 vs Jets post trade...FYI
panamajack9 1 year ago
I was wondering how long it would take you to say that. FYI, Ginn's missed the last 2 games with an injury. So it wouldn't have mattered if he was still a Dolphin.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit actually...the game or practice scenario where he got hurt would have been different and is very subjective. Hard to duplicate those exact circumstances that got him injured if he is 2500 miles away. We are talking about 'butterfly effect' in a sense.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Wow, a reply from you that didn't sound like typed fellatio. I'm a little shocked. At this point Ginn is a 4th string WR, and honestly, if he makes it through the year as a 49er, I'd be surprised.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Marshall will earn his "DROP IT LIKE ITS HOT VIDEO" even faster than GINN did. Thats why your a complete idiot bjchit....COMPLETE IDIOT
panamajack9 1 year ago
He still has more catches at this point in the season then 90% of all the other receviers in the leauge, and is still one of the best 5 receivers in the game. What's Ginn doing again? Nothing on offense, struggling to get to the 20 on kickoffs, and running backwards on punts. Gee, I wonder why Miami shipped him? Who knows, maybe it's just the number 19. And maybe you're not a dumbass.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit 49ers aint movin the ball with an elite running back, elite tight end, and above average receiver in Crabtree. Seems to me 49ers got issues so that makes them not a good barometer. He's about equal to Vincent Jackson. I'll take Eddie Royal, Deshaun Jackson, Chad Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant (still has a lot to learn...huge upside) Devin Hester...have I hit 5 yet? Unlike you...I understand the need to S T R E T C H the field.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Ginn isn't even on the field for most of the game, and you're still trying to say he's a weapon? Give it a rest. Vincent Jackson? The guy who hasn't played a game this year? You really are a Goddamn idiot. Royal is 3rd fucking string. DeSean Jackson is the name you're probably looking for, and is what you envision Ginn to be. CJ is on the downside of his career and in the mist of his worst season since his rookie year. Ok there's 2 of 5. Correct, but he's still raw. Hester? Are you damaged?
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Since you're so particular about spelling, (when you don't have ground to stand on debate wise) perhaps you were trying to say midst...I didnt know football players had a mist of a season. And the bottom line is since the Fins have traded GINN their record has gotten worse AND seems to me they couldnt even fuckin move the chains. Would have been nice to see Marshall and Ginn on the field at the same time. I keep forgetting that I'm the idiot not you....my bad douche bag
panamajack9 1 year ago
Or maybe I was pressed for space. And I only go after you're spelling when I can't understand a Goddamn word you're say, asshole. Fuck off.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
Their record stayed the same, you fucking idiot. Holy shit, the BS you spew to save face.
bjchit 1 year ago 7
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@bjchit 11-5 2008 douchebag. offense has become worse anyway. only the most ignorant dolphin fans realize Miami lacked a true deep threat this year. Hartline kinda fast but not lightning. Holy shit it is you who is the imbisil not me.
panamajack9 1 year ago
And then the nexy year they were 7-9 with Ginn still on the team dumb fuck. 7-9 again this year. And if you really want to go that way, I could point out that Miami had their worst season ever with Ginn on the team at 1-15, but that's irrelevent. Like Ginn is for the 49ers, and just like your opinion is. Fuck off.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
I understand the need, but Ginn isn't going to be the guy who does that. He doesn't fight for balls, can't get on the field with that world class speed of his, won't take a hit, can't dependably catch a pass, doesn't try, and just isn't very good. I don't get why you can't see this.
bjchit 1 year ago
@bjchit yeah ted ginn is a horrible wr. he is probably the fastest yes i said the fastest player in the nfl though. too bad he cant catch a pass to save his fucking life though. what a waste of talent.
wild1033 1 year ago
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@wild1033 Really...cause I could've swore I saw him catch a deep pass for TD vs one of the elite corners in the game. Was I dreaming? Ginn wasn't the most reliable receiver in the game but he did bring some intangibles to the table. Intangibles that the FINS desperately missed this past season.
panamajack9 1 year ago
@panamajack9 he had big play making ability for sure but he think he's a good kick/punt returner at best. he will never be given the chance to be a starting wr though. he's not consistent at all at catching the ball.
wild1033 1 year ago
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@bjchit I haven't seen Miami even try to throw deep 5 times this whole season. I wonder if it's because they don't have a true deep threat? HMMM....
panamajack9 1 year ago
Then you haven't been watching very many Dolphin games. Or you're using hyberpole. Either way, you're a fucking idiot.
bjchit 1 year ago
Ginn always falls like a dumbass.. idk y
187MIAMIBOY 1 year ago
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Stupidest thing Dolphins could have done was let Ginn go, there goes their deep threat, his hands will improve, unlike Miami's record this year, LOL!
soulmanplaya3 1 year ago
Fuck off you little shit.
bjchit 1 year ago 3
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@bjchit thats the best you can do...can't think of a good arguement so you just tell someone to eff off. Thats nothin but your usual ignorant bs.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Look dipshit, that asshole just goes around saying the Dolphins suck, and that Ginn is going to be good. I've tried to engage him for a polite debate, but look you, he just stuck on Ginn and being an asshole. And now here you are, projecting your BS onto me, so I'll just tell you what I told him, fuck off.
bjchit 1 year ago 7
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@bjchit Wheres brady quinn now bitch? Bust....Ted Ginn will have at least 3 td returns this year.
panamajack9 9 months ago
Not only do I not care, but I just got to wonder what kind of fag are you. I mean, sending me messages at 2 in the A.M.? You are smoking something other than Ginn's dick if you think he'll amount to anything this year. If there is a football season this year.
bjchit 9 months ago 2
@bjchit Just because you live on east coast doesnt mean I do. No wonder your so dumb....you think I have to live on east coast to be a dolphin fan. Trust me. I'll be calling you out for being stupid for many more years. For your sake...I hope Brady Quinn plays another down in NFL.
panamajack9 9 months ago
@bjchit 1st play on this video took big hit and hung on. 1:22 took big hit. 1:57 took big hit and hung on...WTF are you talking about? You are just a faggot hater that don't know shit about anything.
panamajack9 5 months ago
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@bjchit I responded to you with direct plays...are you gonna keep responding with your lame ass opinion?
panamajack9 5 months ago
What? Try making some sense, asshole.
bjchit 5 months ago
I'm not yellow, oh sorry, YELLA (what a fag), I just got sick of your shit. Now go fuck yourself and leave me alone.
bjchit 5 months ago
After multiple 7-9 seasons in a row, the Bills screwed everything up last year by going 6-10. Had the Bills gone 7-9 again, I heard the league was going to change their name to the 7-9's...The Toronto 7-9's.
fukinblowme 1 year ago 2
Chad Pennington made him look good.
dolfan984 1 year ago 2
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@dolfan984 Right...first play chad throws way too short TG had to slow up and play jumpball...IF Pennington had an arm TG would have scored TD with 15 yard distance closest defender. He made him look good alright..just not the way you say he did.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Ginn's best year happened when Pennington played the whole year, I wonder why? Get lost troll.
bjchit 1 year ago 6
Ted better not bring that ugly ass face mask to San Fran. He better throw something more modern on his head and face and get use to catching with it.
LastCalltoBoogie 1 year ago
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singletary will whip him into shape lol... and he's worth more then a 5th round pick. just his special teams ability alone is worth more then that
healthyandyoung 1 year ago
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he has a lot of potential. he doesnt look like a first rounder but i think he could add a lot to the niners as a 2nd or 3rd receiver. hit him in space and he'll make big plays the dolphins used him the wrong way
healthyandyoung 1 year ago
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Wow... He's A Niner Now.! Not To Diss The Dolphins But How Do You Trade A Good WR For A 5th Round Pick.? Brandon Marshall Must Be An Expensive Ho... Lol. Well GO NINERS.!
perezcarlos559 1 year ago
We didn't. We traded a piss poor one for a 5th round pick.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Why Do You Guys Hate On Ginn.? It Aint His Fault For Not Having A Good QB.! Alex Smith Is Just To Get Better.! So He'll Be Good With Us... And We're A Rich Team.! LMao.
perezcarlos559 1 year ago
He had two. He sucks. Goddamn are you stupid. You do realize Miami now has several different owners, all of the with more money than we will both see in a lifetime.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Dude he didn't say we had more money. He was pointing out that our owners are "cheap". But that fact is lost on you. And Pennington is an AVERAGE QB. Who was the other "good" QB? Henne? If he was good your team would not be relying on the Wildcat formation for 2/3 of their on the field possession. You can dress it up all you like in the end it still looks like a pig. Almost the entire Jets game was Wildcat. That says your QB sucks or your Line does. Or both.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
He said they were a rich team. Sorry if I couldn't pick the tone up over the internet, DUDE. Average? Hm, is that why he was the second best qb two years ago, or the most accutrate qb in the history of the leauge? Now who's pulling stats out of their ass? Hypocrite. I assume you mean the Monday night game, in which they used it about 12 times, and Henne threw the ball 26 times, completeing 20 of his passes, good enough for a 77% completion rating. Jake Long, maybe you've heard of him.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Hey if I got his meaning you should have no problems getting that... That was two years ago. And *ahem* he was NOT the most accurate QB in the history of the league. What's Steve Young's career passer rating? No way in hell Pennington has a better rating. Oh and wasn't WARNER number 1 for a time too? Pennington is exactly what I said he was. AVERAGE. And no, what was their Run to Pass ratio in that game? Try learning the definition before using words like hypocrite. U mite hurt yourself.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
Or maybe you're injecting your own meaning into it. Or maybe I'm autistic. Who knows. Completion percentage, DUDE. Not QB rating. Chad's is 66.1%. Steve's is 64.3%. Pennington played his whole career with average wide receivers too. He's anything but average. 1:1.1. They ran the Wildcat all of 16 times during that game. That means they ran the ball out of a regular formation 19 times. And they also threw the ball twice that game out of the Wildcat. Your move.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Well I'ma leave you with this. He ain't won jack his QB rating is more important than his completion percentage and his injuries are the result of standing behind a crap line. Who know what he COULD have been. We jsut know what he ain't and that's above average. He's not. Sorry, but he's been in the league how long? Go take your hand out of his likenesses rear end put him down and move on. I know what an above average QB looks like. I'm old enough to have seen a few of them.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
You mean his 90.1 rating? Which is only 5.7 less then Young's all-time mark? Whatever you say pal.
bjchit 1 year ago
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Respond to this video...Also you are saying they didn't run predominately wild cat? How many series they run offensively? Personally I don't know but what I do know is that they ran WC for most of the damn game. Your assessment is that Henne is a good QB. Well we had Shaun "duck hurler" Hill. He has a 11 and 6 career record. Some of our fans lost their freakin minds and started actin like he was 2nd coming of... well anyway I think you and they need to take a time out personally. Henne is OKAY.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
That game? 9. That means they ran the Wildcat less then twice per drive. They didn't run it "most of the damn game", it's just that you think they did because most of the plays ended up on ESPN. Shaun Hill was a fuckin backup from a community college, Henne was a 4 year starter at Michigan, the fact that you'd be dumb enough to try and compar the two tells me all I need to know what you know about football.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit First off your stupid obsession with College Starters. Joe Montana was a CAREER BACKUP at Notre Dame. STFU about college. We're at the pros now. I've seen PLENTY of crap NFL QBs' who were Starters at that level. Should I start naming them all? Don't think YouTube gives us enough room but... I saw the game btw. I'm not going off "ESPN" highlights. And the only comparison made is that Henne is at THIS time an average player. Wasn't comparing him with anyone. Get up, wipe your chin,shut up.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
Obsession? Are you high? And Montana started the last two years at Notre Dame. When you try to compare a backup qb from a community college who has as many starts in his career as a guy who was a starter for a Divsion 1 school all for years did in one season, it makes you look bad. Really? Could've fooled me. Then why bring up Shaun Hill in the first place? Anyway, Henne has shown what he can do with receviers who wouldn't be starters anywhere else.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Hey dumbass I think you need to do some research. Joe was NEVER the Starter @ ND. Seriously. #3 Ended up playing the big games cause the Starters got killed and he came in and won the big games. True. Look it up. And AGAIN where was the comparison? I'm comparing YOU to the idiot fans of my team who thought that Hill was a worthy Starter. You see? You and They belong in straight jackets and padded cells. Got it now? Henne MAY be a good QB. My OPINION is that he's average. Now get bent.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
I did look it up. He was the starter his last two years there. He probably would've been a 3 year starter if he didn't break his pinky, then seperated his shoulder. Joe only came off the bench his first year there. Fine, whatever. The fact reamins that Henne is actually ment to be the starter, and has shown what he can do several times. The fact that you somehow think I'm acting like he's God's gift to football is just baffling to me. I would tell you to kiss my ass, but I'm sure you'd enjoy it.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit pnngton diddnt have the arm to play with fast rcvrs
panamajack9 1 year ago
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bjchit 1 year ago
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panamajack9 1 year ago
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@bjchit Thats exactly the response I would expect from someone with no good answer. Funny thing is that response makes more sense than anything you've ever said to this point.
panamajack9 1 year ago
No, that was the response you got for the mangled message you sent me last night, that you seemed to feel the need to replace the message before that that was actually literate. And since you did that, I am finally fully convinced you are a troll. And not a very funny one either.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
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@bjchit Sorry I was typing with one hand and in a hurry. I understand if you have no reasonable counter to my points you will just nit pick my spelling and grammer. Sane people, or people that understand football, would just concede that Pennington has a noodle for an arm and always has. So TG never had a chance to show his forte'. You know bjhaterchit...you'd make a really good philly fan....fit right in. HATER
panamajack9 1 year ago
I've offered a countering point to everyone of half baked thoughts, and all you can ever do at this point is just repeat back to me what you just said, so you'll have to excuse me if I find that to be more then a little bit annoying. I already did concede to that point you twice baked moron, you just either didn't see it because you're too busy covering your Ted Ginn Jr. poster with yet another stain, or understand it because you're too stupid.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
And like I said before, TED GINN JR. DOES NOT HAVE THE HANDS TO BE A WR. Wow, what a wit. Hope you weren't up all night thinking that one over. Since he was traded for a mere 5th round pick, wouldn't that mean I was right to critize Ginn?
bjchit 1 year ago 2
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@bjchit CRITIZE? you thrice baked piehole puncher. Don't ever 'CRITICIZE' my spelling again. I've seen other mistakes in spelling you've made but felt it petty to call you out on them until you did it to me twice.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Thrice baked piehole puncher? What in the fuck are you smoking over there? I only care enough about my spelling to make it legible, but if you're going to cliam to be a Dolphins fan, then get the players names right. Otherwise, it makes you look like a moron. I wasn't doing it to be petty, I was trying to do you a favor, course you're too fucking stupid to get it.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit uh O....B Marsh Droppin passes worse than Ginn ever did.. Not near as fast. I hope your happy.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Shut the fuck up you dipshit. It was two passes in the first game of preseason in the middle of a God damn monsoon. Everybody has moved on except you. Get over it you asshole.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
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@bjchit It was sprinkling....anyway...So you're telling me NOBODY caught the ball during that game at all...because it was the first game and it was raining? Funny how you can purge excuses whenever you choose.
panamajack9 1 year ago
The infield was a puddle of mud, don't try and tell me it was sprinkling you sack of lying shit. There were a lot of people who had trouble holding onto it, as the 8 fumbles in that game can attest to. It's not an excuse if it's the truth, troll.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
@panamajack9, dude face it. Ginn is a mediocre wide receiver. He's got foot speed but he's lousy at running routes, he's inconsistent at catching balls and he shows minimal effort at picking up yards after the catch. For Christ sake, Davone Bess out shined Ginn last year. That's pretty bad. There's a reason why he went for a lousy fifth round pick. Ginn isn't valuable, at all.
jdlund 1 year ago 3
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@jdlund Funny cause I just watched the Jets game on NFL rewind this past Sunday. Devonne best dropped a pass with no one around him just before half that could have set them up for a FG. Then he proceeded to fumble a punt deep in Dolphin territorry that led to a Jet TD that would've lost the game for them if not for Ginn's heroics. NO VALUE? your setting my idiot alarm off again.
panamajack9 1 year ago
@panamajack9, I never said Devonne was a great receiver. He's not. I just said he looked better than Ginn last season, and he did. Ginn was traded for a fifth round draft pick, and frankly that is precisely what his value is. He has speed but he is a lousy route runner, drops passes and shows minimal effort. Pennington and Henne aren't great QBs but good receivers get more production from far shittier QBs. Christ he barely broke 700 yards once, two seasons ago. He's mediocre, at best.
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panamajack9 1 year ago
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@jdlund Devonne Bess is a great rcver and I'm happy to have him. He has his own skill set which is to make tough catches. Does he drop passes? Yes. Does he make tuff catches? Yes. Does TG make tough catches? Yes. The catches you remember him dropping the most is in the colts game on Monday night. Pennington gave him a jump ball when he should have led him towards the middle of the end zone. TG's speed makes up for his occasional drop.
panamajack9 1 year ago
If you're going to be calling someone else an idiot you might want to spell Davone Bess's name correctly.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
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@jdlund If he is a mediocre receiver then how the hell does he put up 177 yards against an NFL defense with a Qb that has a noodle for an arm. If Chad Pennington had an arm, the very first play on this highlight would have gone for six. Its only because of his route running that he could've picked up any yards with Pnngton at qb. Watch the video...he makes some tuff catches too.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Jesus Christ. You're really using the fact that he had a career game against a medicore defense as proof that he's a good receiver? He's a bad receiver because he was in the top 5 in drops last year and had a YAC of under 1.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
@panamajack9 the game was in his hand multiple times this year and he failed us so fuck him good riddance
troyterry2445 1 year ago 2
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@troyterry2445 B Marshall is the answer right? Now the Fins will lose to the jets. And he had the dolphins on his back that day I tell ya.
panamajack9 1 year ago
@panamajack9 I hate getting into the Ginn debates, because there's always that lone ranger that thought he was good, but yes, Marshall is a GREAT replacement for Ginn. Yeah Ginn may have won both Jets games for us, but he also lost the Colts and Saints game for us, plus however many more games he dropped and easy pass. He's on the 49ers now bud, move on, either with him or with the dolphins, I could care less which one.
Blaznkwest 1 year ago 2
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@Blaznkwest If you looked at the highlights closely...the saints game ginn caught up and knocked the ball out of the saints guys hands just before he reached the Endzone. And the refs blew the call on the td before halftime...clock should have run out. The colts game Pennington threw Ginn a 'jump ball' when he should have just led him towards middle of the end zone. I can see how an ignorant football fan would think that about the colts game...but you are wrong.
panamajack9 1 year ago
@panamajack9 It's pointless to argue, you must have not seen that game. I at least REMEMBER two very catchable passes in the endzone that should have been caught, including the "jumpball" you claim was so difficult. As an NFL reciever, you are expected to catch anything that hits both palms of your hands. The saints game, Ginn practically kicked the ball up to the defenders for them to intercept, but yes I do agree he punched the ball out, too little too late.
Blaznkwest 1 year ago
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@Blaznkwest you obviously didnt remember that the dbs hands were all over Ginns forearm when he went up for that jump ball.. Why throw Ginn a jumpball...throw Fitzgerald a jumpball....not some guy who is 5'11"...Very few receivers make the catch when it is that contested. I bet Pennington himself would admit that wasnt the best idea. Dont forget the saints game Refs debockle just before halftime. Refs gave the saints two tds they didnt deserve.
panamajack9 1 year ago
That's not even the pass he was talking about. He means the one where Ginn dropped a sure touchdown in the back of the endzone, that he blames Pennington for even though you're not supposed to throw late over the middle.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit look at the replay again...are you blind...throwing over the middle late was a better option than throwing a Jump ball to a 5'11" guy who needs separation to catch the ball. duh
panamajack9 1 year ago
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@Blaznkwest Anybody that really knows football knows that Pennington should have helped Ginn get open by throwing anything other than a jump ball. Ask any quarterback to dissect that play and they will tell you that Chad Pennington screwed up on that throw.
panamajack9 1 year ago
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@Blaznkwest Chad Henne lost the Titans game and the Steelers game. So what? Any player that can win a game virtually all by himself (Jets) and beat Derelle Revas deep for a TD...you don't get rid of. TG whould have more tds with the dolphins but Pennington couldnt throw it far enough and Henne often over threw him.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Ignore Panamajack. He's just borderline in love with Ginn. He's not even a Dolphins fan.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit been a dolphin fan since before you were kicked off your moms teet. Which by some of your actions leads me to believe that wasn't all that long ago..At least you're not marking ALL of my posts as spam because you don't agree with me. You only do that to some now. Completely childish
panamajack9 1 year ago
And yet, I've never seen you say go Dolphins or anything of the like once. You only brag about Ted Ginn. Maybe if you weren't such an asshole I wouldn't.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@jdlund Did he run a Mediocre route to beat Revis on Monday night? You know Revis...the same guy to shut down Ochocinco....Randy Moss....you remember him?
panamajack9 1 year ago
It took you 3 months to think that up? Jesus Christ, let it go.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
@panamajack9, he had one good play against Revis and he scored the ONLY TD he had last season. Your point being? How many catches did he have the next time the Dolphins played the Jets? Zero. One play doesn't somehow make him not mediocre. A season is the result of a lot more than one play.
jdlund 1 year ago 2
Panamajack9 thinks that one good play or game is negates a season of poor play.
bjchit 1 year ago 2
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@bjchit Miami has needed a deep threat and an elite kick/punt return guy for many years now...they finally get one. and ignorant fans run him out of town. Too many people only remember the dropped passes and totally forget about the tough catches. Ask BJCHIT if he remembers Ginn Making any difficult catches and he will tell you NO. Ignorant fans were expecting Ginn to be on the same level as Chad Ochocinco or Randy Moss...His skill set is just not the same as those guys. Now fins have no deeptht
panamajack9 1 year ago
Ginn was never an elite anything, and all anybody had to do was jam him, and he's no longer a deep threat. And if he's going to be making $14 million a year he better be fucking Randy Moss. Well maybe if he could've made the easy ones I could remember the tough ones. They have Brian Hartline and Brandon Marshall, both of whom go deep, so yea.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit shows just how ignorant and stupid you really are. Ginn is an elite kick/punt returner. Anyone that returns 2, hundred yard kickoffs in one game is an elite returner. Your boy Brady quin about to lett Tebow ahead of him on the depth chart. Marshall is not a deep threat...he can beat one v one coverage with his size but he is not a speed guy.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Which is why he has returned all of 2 kicks this preseason. Wow, he has one good game as a returner. That must mean he's really good. Not just that he actually manned up for a change. No. Quinn is still #2 on the depth chart, so anything short of cataclysmic organ failure is going to keep him there if Orton mangages to hold the starters job. Marshall only ran a 4.52 in the Combine, so yea, he actually can beat guys ith his speed. The ball still hit him in the hands. You're just really stupid.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Too bad 4.52 is actually really slow for a receiver. There are many linebackers that can hit 4.5 on the fourty. Thanks for making my point for me. Don't talk to me about preseason...any knowledgeable fan knows that preseason means nothing. Except for when BM drops his first two passes thrown to him...shows that every wr drops a pass here and there. Trying to compare TG to elite rcvers is your big mistake. Now that Dolphins signed Clifton Smith should fill the hole left by Ginn. almost
panamajack9 1 year ago
That was before the draft, before he got stronger, and faster. That was my point that went over your head. It means a lot if you aren't given reps at a postion. How very hypocritical of you to think the preseason doesn't matter. Yes, every recevier drops a pass every now and then when it's pouring ass rain, you sack of shit. I've never compared Ted Ginn to anybody. That was you, dipshit. If I would compare him to anybody, it would be Braylon Edwards, for their ability to drop it like it's hot.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit maybe it went over my head because you NEVER said or implied anything other than BM can beat people with his speed. Funny that you think 4.5 is fast for an NFL receiver. Dont try to wiggle out of what you said ahole. Shows how much you really know about football. But, I've known how little that is from the beginning. When you expected Ted Ginn to be a possesion receiver. Thinking that Penningtons Jump ball vs colts was a good decision by Chad. moron.
panamajack9 1 year ago
It's fast enough for a guy who's 6'4" and can get anything thrown up at him. By posseion I assume you mean being able to catch the ball in the first fucking place. This coming from the guy who thought Ashley Lelie and DeShaun Foster were options for the 49ers. He got the ball in Ginn hands didn't he? Hell, if Ginn caught the other pass in the endzone, he wouldn't have had to do that.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Still funny how you thought 4.5 is fast for nfl rcver...Typical football knowledge for you. Nothin but your regular..fool.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Do you honestly have nothing better to do then this? Why are you as obsessed with me as you are Ginn?
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit funny thing is you waste more time hating Ginn than I do sticking up for him..I've seen hateful posts on almost every TG video on youtube by you...Many of which I have not posted anything. So I ask YOU...Don't you have anything better to do?
panamajack9 1 year ago
That's a load. Well if an OUS dipshit tried to say that the Dolphins suck and not Ginn, I'm going to stick up for my team.
bjchit 1 year ago
Clifton Smith, does he have a lowlite of dropping passes like Ginn does? Is that how he's going to fill his spot? What's that? Smith is an actual player and even made the Pro Bowl? Oh, well I guess he's a better player then Ginn could hope to be.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit The problem I've had with you BJ is that since Ginn was drafted you could never give the guy a break. You hated him from day one and all he did was let the Miami draft him when they did. You couldn't give the guy a fair assessment when he had a good game but jumped on his ass when he didn't have a good game. That qualifies you as a hater. Alot of people were mad at the draft but came around when they saw Ginn make tough catches and turn reverses into tds or beat Revis Island on MNF.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Well gee jacker, maybe if he hadn't failed to meet my admitally low expections, I wouldn't have minded having him on the team. The problem I've got with you is that it didn't matter to you that Ginn was 4th in the leauge in drops, he's fast. Or if when he did manage to hold onto a pass, he went straight to the ground instead of moving the ball, on the off chance he might get hurt. Or that he had trouble getting to the 15 on kick returns, on the off chance he might've made it past the 20.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit You wanted Brady Quin over him and he hasn't proven that he is anything but a carreer backup. Ginn's highlight reel in College is the reason I wanted the Fins to draft him...He was projected to be drafted somewhere around 17-18...But you draft to fit your needs and Henne will prove to be better than Quinn anyway...TG proved that he was worthy of that draft by SINGLE HANDEDLY BEATING JETS. your low expectations were because you lack football understanding. BM is more like 6'3" not 6'4"
panamajack9 1 year ago
Is that it? Or is it because he looked longly into your eyes while signing something for you? Here's the thing though, we didn't a punt returner. We needed a QB. We got 3 now, after one bad season of extremely bad play at that postion. He scored 18 points last year. That's not single handedly beating anybody. And Miami was still 3-3 against the Jets the whole time Ginn was there. My low expections were due to him being drafted solely because Cam Cam knew his family.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit By the way...TEBOW was #2 on the depth chart. another epic fail by your information gathering society. I'd rather have the qbs we have now then be stuck with Brady Quinn who can't distinguish himself above Tebow. He would have scored and beat the colts if Chad Pennington gives him anything other than a JUMP BALL like he should have.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Not with the 9th pick of the draft. Nor do you do it because you know the guy. When I posted Quinn was #2 on the depth chart that was a week ago, when he was still listed as such you unbelievable conceited, ignorant piece of shit. Or if he'd just caught the first one in the endzone, or just not set his hands like he was setting a volly ball.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Thats just it...Im the guy that knew Tebow was going to beat out Quin on the depth chart at some point. You must be the OTHER guy. Thank God Miami didn't waste a 9th pick on Brady Quin, as all you ignorant Miami Fans wanted so badly. Just because you are a fan, doesnt make you an inteligent one. If they had wasted that pick on Quin we would still be searching for a QB. You probably wouldve been butt hurt if Matt Lienart was available and not drafted by the fins too.
panamajack9 1 year ago
You never said that, so now you're a bold faced liar. It's Quinn, with 2 n's, you ignorant dick suck. The same could be said for you, asshole. How Teddy doing in San Fran? 3 returns for an 18 yard average? Boy's that's elite right there. No, I was more upset when the Dolphins picked Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees, which started that whole 9th pick of the draft mess anyway. You know, picking a wide recevier with the first pick hasn't exactly been a sure fire way of rebuilding the team lately.
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panamajack9 1 year ago
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@bjchit TG already proved he is an elite return guy in college and NFL so your little one game assessment is moronic but par for a dooshbag like yourself. Who really cares how to spell Quinns last name? Only a pencil neck nerd like you would even care even though you knew who I was talking about anyway. Also funny how you talk about the raiders not tackling instead of giving ginn credit for out running the whole team. You are hoplessly clueless and probably always will be.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Okay, what has he done outside of that one Jets game? One punt return for a touchdown. Wow, that's elite. Because you did it 4 times in a row dumbass. I find it funny you deleted a message where you tried to say Ginn was the best Return man Miami ever had, even though he's never made a Pro Bowl, never been voted All Pro, where as guys like Mercury Morris and Freddie Solomon have. They tried to stop him by running into him, instead of tackling. I know, it worked earlier in the game, but still.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit YOU meant to ask me what he's done besides the two jets games right? I mean beating Derrelle Revis is easy or does it happen all the time? How did Ocho Cinco do vs Revis? Name all the WR's that have had good games vs him.
TG had many more returns that got called back because of stupid blocks. Ask the Michigan Wolverines if TG is an elite return guy. Ask anybody in the Big ten. Ask the jets if they think he is an elite return guy.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I asked what has he done outside of that one Jets game, RETURNING the ball. And now you're trying to say how good he was in college to apply to say that how he is now in his 4th year in the NFL. Give it up already. I bet if I were to ask the Jets, they would say no. Troy Smith was pretty good against Michigan too, what team is he on now?
bjchit 1 year ago
@bjchit he is on the 49ers and just had 356 yards today
OHIOSTATE142 1 year ago
Now, are you done getting your jollies from me, or am I going to have to report you for harrassment?
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit funny how you now realize that by me answering your questions and debating you over the last few years all the sudden you complain that I am harrassing you by outsmarting you? I don't get it. I got news for you...just because you cant outwhit or dance around my points doesnt mean I'm harrassing you. Just admit that you're not as knowledgeable about football and we can move on.
panamajack9 1 year ago
I'm saying you're harrassing me by flooding my email with vitriolic messages at all times of days. That is harrassment. And it's because the more I am inevitability proven right about Ginn, the more that irks you, and you take it out on me. So my advice to you is, sack up Nancy and let it go.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit its funny how you say in essence Even though the guy won the Jets game virtually all by himself he didn't deserve to be drafted that high. How many players can take over a game from that position? The dolphins were one game away from being a playoff team with Ginn in the starting lineup. I think that makes my point not yours. The refs screwed them out of beating the saints. Henne screwed them out of beating the titans.
panamajack9 1 year ago
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@bjchit Idc if he is 4th in drops because I understand that you need to have a wr that can/will stretch the defense to be succesful and BM doesnt stretch the defense...He draws double coverage but thats it. 4.5 doesnt stretch the defense when every other cb can run faster than that
panamajack9 1 year ago
Exactly, you don't care just how bad Ginn is, because you are disturbingly obessesed with him.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit I just hate to see haters like you that don't ever recognize and appreciate the good things a guy brings to the table. Painfully obvious today that Miami lacks wr to stretch the field. The one time Marshall gets deep, Henne underthrows and BM drops a still catchable ball. Miami NEEDED a qb AND a return guy AND a WR...its a bad Idea to draft a qb in the first 13 picks...so why not get the return guy that can catch ten balls a game vs the colts. thats not nothin
panamajack9 1 year ago
It's hard to recognize what a guy brings to the table when he constanly negates it with bad play. And you saying he's fast over and over and over and over and over and over and over again is not going to change it. Which was also the one time they sent Marshall down the field. And it's the first game of the season. Yea, guys like the Mannings, Bob Griese, Jim McMahon, John Elway, Terry Bradshaw, Steve McNair, Kerry Collins, Joe Namath, Jim Plunkett, Philip Rivers, Donovan McNabb, Troy Akiman....
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit so turning a reverse into a td vs the raiders and catching a td with two defenders on him vs Seattle is bad? Returning a punt in preseason vs the chiefs is bad? Punt return for td vs Eagles bad? 4 or 5 other kick/punt returns that were called back for penaltys bad? Sure he had a bad game for the saints where he ran wrong route and caused two turnovers. One bad game does not make a bad player. Every receiver has caused an INT due to bad route. Every rcver drops balls. Ask Brandon Marshll
panamajack9 1 year ago
That wouldn't have gone for a touchdown had the Raiders actually tried to tackle him. What was bad was during the Chagers game was the times he kept running out of bounds when Miami was trying to run out the clock in the 4th quarter. I thought the preseason didn't count, asshole. Yes that is bad. You know why? BECAUSE THEY DON'T FUCKING COUNT! Bad game against the Colts when he needed to make a catch, against the Pats, against the Bucs, against the Chargers, against Buffalo, against the Titans.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit There are many more Epic Fails when it comes to drafting a qb in the first round. Ryan Leaf, Andre Ware, Tim Couch, Danny Wuerful, Heath Shuler, Matt Leinart, Akili Smith, Brady Quinn, David Carr, David Klingler, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Rick Mirer, Patrick Ramsey, Rex Grossman, JP Lossman, Jim Drunkenmiller, Dan McGwire, Cade McNoun, Jmar Russell, Todd Marenivich. NEVER START AN ARGUMENT WITH SOMEONE SMARTER THAN YOU ARE. Take that advice fool.
panamajack9 1 year ago
Danny Wuerffel was a 4th round pick you idiot. Jeff George was a good qb, he's just an idiot. Rex Grossman is a lot better then people give him credit for. Just look at how well the Bears have done since they benched him. Jim Miller? He was a 6th round pick. And yet you still feel like arguing with me. Weird.
bjchit 1 year ago
And David Carr was and still is a good QB, it's just hard to show that when you're getting destroyed evert other play because your line sucks.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Drafted first overall and multi million $ contract he is a bust to be virtually a carreer backup. The point is that there are far too many fails when it comes to drafting a qb in the first round. I know its hard for you to comprehend but that is the point.
panamajack9 1 year ago
You can't do much when you get hit every time you drop back. You tried inflate your list using guys as far as the 6th round where they were not expected to be anything other then game managers. I however used the guidelines you set about using only the first 13 picks in the draft. If I wanted to use the whole first round, I would've used guys like Y.A. Tittle, Earl Morrel, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Ken O'Brien, Steve Young, Roman Gabriel, John Brodie, Len Dawson, Bill Wade, Phil Simms, Bernie Kosar
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit As much as you like to dance around my point...I was saying that it is much easier to screw up a draft by taking a qb. You draft an elite return guy that can help you at receiver it is more difficult to screw up. And Ginn had an uphill climb from the beginning because of where he was drafted and ignorant fans so pro bowl not an option. Nothing you can say can make drafting a qb in first round less risky. THATS MY POINT QUIT DANCING AROUND IT.
panamajack9 1 year ago
And my point is, it's even easier to screw up a draft by picking a punt returner with the 9th pick just because you know the guy. Just look at how many of Cameron's picks are still with the team. He had an uphill climb because he's not that good. I didn't realize I was dancing around anything, I thought I was saying it's not as bad an idea as you make it out to be in your attempt to make picking a kick returner with a broken foot not look like a horrible decision.
bjchit 1 year ago
What magical fantasy land did that happen where people came around said Ginn was a good player?
bjchit 1 year ago
I never hated Ginn you fuck wit, I just stated I never cared for the pick, and the fact he was traded for a 5th rounder showed me why I wasn't wrong to think that. And you are a troll. You show that by asshole at every given moment.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit How many fifth rounders...fukk that...how many first rounders have returned two Kick returns for tds same game/ beat Derrelle Revis?
panamajack9 1 year ago
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@bjchit 4.5 is the speed of a safety or fast linebacker...Most dbs should be able to beat or keep up with 4.5. There are a thousand rcvers in college that run a 4.5 fourty. That is NOT speed. Brandon Marshall's skillset is he is fast for his size, strength. I bet Vernon Davis can stay with Brandon Marshall.
panamajack9 1 year ago
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@bjchit Uummm Sure Pal. He's Gunna Prove You Guys Wrong Wit Us.! Watch. And The Owners Are Prolly Drug Dealers Lyk Scarface.! Hahhaha Jp. Bt Tell The Owners To Change That Lame Mascot Nd Colors.! Hahaha.
perezcarlos559 1 year ago
You mean watch him make maybe 15 catches all year, and get about 20 yards per return? The Owners are actaully movie stars, musicians, tennis stars, and realitors. But way to paint yourself as a moron. Maybe you guys should move and change your mascot, so you'll no longer be confused as the San Trancisco 69ers, two things that city is known for.
bjchit 1 year ago 3
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@bjchit Foo Your Hella Lame Bro.! Hahaha. You Neva Stop Typing.! Goddamn Ima Stop Cuz Yu Neva Quit.... I Guess Online Is Yor Life.! Hah. But Stop Hating On Ginn Foo 4Real.! Name Me Some Actual Owners Of The Team.? And You Must B The Real Homo Not My Superbowl Team.! BlowJob Shit.! Hah. Ssshhhhh.!
perezcarlos559 1 year ago
I'd rather be lame than an idiot. Which you clearly are. I'm the loser, even though you reposnd to my posts just as fast as I do to yours, okay. Does your brain serve any purpose besides keeping your skull from caving in? They haven't won in 15 years, nobody cares. That was about as witty as I expect you to be.
bjchit 1 year ago 3
Miami Dolphins owners: Stephen Ross (95%) and Wayne Huizenga (5%) (Unknown percentage of ownership by Gloria Estefan, Emilio Estefan, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Venus Williams, Serena Williams)
bjchit 1 year ago 3
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Dude just stop. Make every excuse as to why Ginn let you down that you want. Soft...Vid clearly shows that he wasn't. Fumble prone One ball put on the ground out of bounds and he had a 2 TD return game as well. I just think your squad didn't know what to do with him. Instead of hating on Ginn you should be hating on your team's management cause they didn't have a plan in place if they got him.
And btw Henne is as big a "?" as Quinn.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
No. Actually it does. Instead of using his blazing speed to try and get by a corner who looks to weigh the same as he does, he jukes and jives so much a fucking middle linebacker caught him from behind. It's just lucky he was near the sidelines when that happened. Where did I ever say he was fumble prone? Man, you guys will just say anything won't you?
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Dude shut up. He put the brakes on to keep the play alive only got caught cause he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head or rear views installed on his helmet. Two moves TOTAL. "Juked and jived so much" LMAO!!!
ALSO regarding the fumbles. That was for ALL the whiny Fins fans who say that pathetic crap. One fan in particular said he fumbles 20% of the time. My math ain't the best in the world but I would bet money that if you divided his touches by fumbles its not 20%.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
He has the speed to blow by a guy with the angle, but is to scared to do so most of the time. That's what happened on that play. In fact, he actually could've gone by that guy if he didn't just stop for no reason. Even Panamajack can admit to that. I've never seen a single Dolphins fan say that he fumbles alot, just that he does it at the most inopportune times, DUDE.
bjchit 1 year ago
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@bjchit Pennington NEVER had the arm to utilize Ginns strengths. Pennington coulndnt put the ball out in front of Ginn even on a 3 step drop. Alex Smith likes to overthrow rcvers....Ginn should help him out beautifully.
panamajack9 1 year ago
No, but then again, Ginn never had the hands to be a wide receiver.
bjchit 1 year ago
And outside of that game, what was he doing that couldn't be done by anybody else in the leauge? The reason why he was traded, was because he had the 4th worst drop % in the NFL. The fact that he could occassionly return the ball past the 30 yard line wasn't worth having him. And Henne is not a "?", he is the real deal. Now that he has Brandon Marshall, you're gonna eat your words.
bjchit 1 year ago
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How many yards he have in this game? How bout your team get solid players around him Fins fans. And he was booed from the get go. If you don't remember the '07 draft, when he was picked EVERY Fins fan in the building wanted Brady Quinn. It was so bad that it would not have surprised me if there were riots in the isles.
Ceadderman 1 year ago
Did I fail to mention that two games before that he had -1 yards recieving?
bjchit 1 year ago
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49erz got a beast
Aruleofawakenin 1 year ago
ROTFLMAO,0:51 look at Donte Whitner.He was too confused.
MicDizzle2 1 year ago