Ankle lock from flying scissors

[abdoulshmit]

begin at 0:47 tumbs up plz

[aremieroll1990]

like 'olahraga silat'

[ceelo4]

looks like two guys trying to rip each others clothes off lmao

[b7i7l7l7y7]

That was fucking beautiful. Poetry in motion.

[ooJDMoo]

Beautiful, just beautiful

[LookItsSully]

no need for the first 45 seconds of this video

[47Dreadlox]

nice one!

[Zeddy100]

Were they whitebelts? Couldn't tell from the footage. We're not allowed to do ankle locks in comp till blue belt. Great takedown.

[Tolstiy1980]

yes, at that time I was a white belt :) thanks.

[Daniel7133]

@Tolstiy1980 Man i practice bjj all the time with my cuzin, never been offically in a class but i cant imagine training in those Gi's they would seem to slow me down or anoy me. More props to ya.

[MikeMMA93]

@Daniel7133 i used to just train with my cousin, then i started doing mma, haha got my ass kicked the first 2 months, but i got way better, it's very challangeing but extremely fun

[johnblaster]

That's jiujitsu, Sambo may be different.

[johnnywhite]

beautiful!

[PennLegend852]

I dont understand how a scissor takedown could damage the knee....

could anyone explain?

[CarNikolaj]

Easy. It tends to slide downward on the leg that is caught - so instead of getting hip/back of knee, you get knee/back of ankle. As the opponent fights that, his knee gets hyperextended.

[Utahraptor9]

I think he followed it up with a heel hook

[IntoTheEternity]

I really want to learn how to pull of a submission reminicent of this. Imagine busting this out in a street fight.

[johnnywhite]

would look cool, but i think it'd be a bad idea mate. one thing you always assume in a street fight is that your opponent has friends willing to jump and blindside you.

[spacejordie]

@IntoTheEternity do u intend to make ppl submit in a streetfight? or do you plan on actually breaking his ankle?

[johnblaster]

Personally, I would probably go for groin strikes, follow with a takedown and preferably choke them out. But if I had to do a submission hold, it would go all the way.

[velvet9mm]

@spacejordie in a street fight you would have to break it cuz if they tapped and you let go they would just hop on you again and start beating your ass

[spacejordie]

@velvet9mm yes im know that, anyway, ive forgotten where my point was getting at :P

[xCoopp]

he did it wrong and dint happen to anderson silva wasent the same think.thats an ankle lock with silva it was a flying leg lock with 1 leg not 2

[Tolstiy1980]

Who did it wrong? You even don't know the names of the submissions.

Chonan did a flying scissor heel hook.

[mmahoss]

If it works and your opponent taps its not "wrong" it might be a variation, but not wrong".

[skraddypoo]

Well said. It's never wrong if it works.

Besides, this is a scissor sweep into an ankle lock, not into a heel hook like Chonan. Just different things.

[Ex0dus111]

Thats exactly the type of scissor Anderson got caught with. He locked the leg under the other arm thou.

[kevinloneman]

Looks like somebody has been watching Ryo Chonan vs. Anderson Silva. (Chonan got Silva with that move for people who don't know) But much props to anybody who can pull this move off, always a highlight reel type submission.

[Laozung]

lol that leg techniques number 6 in Vovinam..Lol I like it

[rage1mma]

what martial art do those guys do

[chrl007]

nice

[introseptic]

Impressive!!!

[skatinondaytons]

very nice

[Spoxjox]

Beautiful kami basami. It's illegal in judo; you will immediately get DQed for it and probably banned from future tourneys. Which is too bad, because when done correctly it isn't particularly dangerous, just devastatingly effective.

[JPearson1987]

Not sure how well that'd work all the time, But does look impressive. Kudos.

[OctaviousBelmont]

If you know WHEN to use the scissor takedown it will work allways, only in that precise moment

:D

[deltadive]

that dude is a brown belt in sambo and is competing in a begginner jiu jitsu division in edmonton which he dropped weight to make and didnt even win first.

[Tolstiy1980]

Yes, that was terrible. I dropped almost 10 pounds in one week and before this tourney I caught a cold. I was on 10% of my usual condition, so it was large handicap for begging guys. I shouldn't go at all. But I like this Ankle lock from flying scissors :)

[Tolstiy1980]

And by the way I don't have brown belt in SAMBO I have brown belt in hand-to-hand fighting which is almost the same as COMBAT Sambo. This is mixed fighting. I switched to pure grappling only 1.5 years ago.

[Tolstiy1980]

Hey, deltadive.

I'll be wrestling at The Series Part 3 Submission Tournament Arashi Do North - 12730 St. Albert Trail. You can show me your skills or give couple of BJJ or SG lessons there.

[nhutraicay]

IF u guys wanna see more flying scissors, type in SEARCH "vovinam leg work / scissors "

[jesman1985]

wow im gonna go try that n see if i can get it down ..

[louieofwpg]

bullshit move, try that in Wpg in Oct you'll leave with a broken leg asshole

[Tolstiy1980]

Come to Calgary and I'll kick your gay ass.

[Undertaker45645]

Hahaha nice yo!

[Undertaker45645]

Hahaha nice yo!!

[Superapplefrog]

Looks like judo to me, except that flying scissors isn't allowed in competition (and I think some "let's be sporty instead of a Martial Art" clubs don't even teach it)

[stonedfish55]

wow beautiful well done

[vitorshaolin]

i thought that move was illegal under the federation rules

[Tolstiy1980]

federation of what? BJJ or Judo?

Actually, I can explain the situation with rules. Here in Canada there is no federation of BJJ and every organizer is creating his rules.

By the rules of BJJ (Brazilian BJJ federation) leglocks are not allowed till blue belt level. In blue belt division straight leglocks are allowed.

About takedowns. I think that any takedown is allowed in any belt division. To my mind scissors takedown is Ok if it doesn't injure the knee.

[tapiotus]

I tought scissors used in takedown (white belts at least) is illegal...

[Tolstiy1980]

I think that any takedown is allowed in any belt division. To my mind scissors takedown is Ok if it doesn't injure the knee.

[letsfightinglove00]

No, it is illegal because there is a high risk of knee injury in the same way the heel hook is banned in bjj (as well as sambo AFAIK). Even attempting such a technique should render an immediate DQ.

[candian75]

It looked more like Judo to me, im surprised that its BJJ.

[Tolstiy1980]

In judo you can't do leg locks. :)

[AZNinvAZNproductions]

yes you can, i have learned plenty; we just don't use them a lot because arm locks are much more effective.

[Tolstiy1980]

As I know by the olimpic rules you can't do them.

[Tolstiy1980]

In the ground phase, which is considered the secondary phase of combat, the opponents try to pin each other, or to get the opponent to submit either by using armlocks (leglocks are not allowed due to safety regulations) or by chokes and strangulations. (from Wikipedia)

So, maybe you can do them in freestyle modifications of Judo but not in Olympiad or other high level competitions.

[AZNinvAZNproductions]

oooh, that must be it, Olympic rules are a bit different from the rules we use in my dojo. come to think of it whenever our sensei teaches us something he usually tells us where we can and cannot use it, lol.

[notsosilentbob80]

Is that sambo? Looked like Judo. which are similar. Either way, nice sub.

[Tolstiy1980]

This is BJJ. But the submission is from SAMBO. :)

[AZNinvAZNproductions]

the actual take down is from judo. the submission is just a standard ankle lock, the same exact style and execution you'd learn in judo, BJJ, sambo, or even greco-roman wrestling.

[Tolstiy1980]

there are no submissions in greco-roman wrestling it is very limited power syle. You have to be very strong for this sport.

[AZNinvAZNproductions]

i must have the wrong form of wrestling... which is the "western" form of wrestling that most high schools and colleges use?

[spahee]

Very Impressive

[casarrubius]

beautiful, That was a great flying scissors move and the ankle lock did the job flawlessly