I'm sorry, I did not make it clear that the relationship was a good one, except for this particular flaw. Each of us, though, is flawed; her flaw was that she loved a good fight. I have been with many people whose flaws were more disturbing.
It is/was just her way of getting attention. She was trying to tell you to pay more attention to her without actually telling you that because if she did, it would be meaningless. Dig?
Men do it, too. I lived with a man who loved to argue. Everywhere. He'd chase me up and down the aisles of a store when we were shopping if he was in the mood to argue. He even accused me of having an affair with a man who was at least 40 years older than I because I used to talk to him at the local laundromat. He'd come home and change the TV channel while I was in the middle of watching a movie, just to start a fight. I think he learned that behavior from his parents, who fought a lot.
Yeah, it's definitely not just a female thing (as I mentioned in other comments, until I posted this I really thought it was unique to her). Some folks just like to argue, and they'll get their argument however they can, I guess.
@OgreVI I had to comment, not because of anything in your video, but because some of the other commenters seem to think being argumentative is a female trait. I just wanted to set the record straight. I didn't get the impression from anything you said that you generalized her behavior to include all women. And, as I said, I think it has a lot to do with what kids see their parents do. Or, maybe it's that, plus how they respond to what they see. Anyway, I love your videos.
My folks used to argue a lot, but I went the other way. If I start to get angry, I have to walk away. I was always pretty disgusted with them when they did that, so I won't do it myself.
@OgreVI Some people seem to be more comfortable with what's familiar, even if it's pretty awful. I had a friend who loved a nasty character on a TV show. One day I found out why: she reminded him of his mother. He also used to try to goad me into arguments, but I didn't understand why until right now. Funny how it can take years to see something that seems so obvious when you finally make the connection.
I love this, I can relate..I was thinking that in "Atheist vs. Theist" debates this kind of arguing happens, I mean deceptive, illogical & useless arguing. It irritates the atheist who is likely to explode...being only human...
its just that this makes me angry and that I am an athiest, so therefore this makes me into this boring video. by the way the argument between the couple makes the woman sound paranoid and whiney which would make me angry if I was that dude................................this is a bad representation of what Athiest are lol its just bad. so yeahhhhh.
I used to be that girl. I think it was a personality disorder. It was a need for attention of any sort. Of course I didn't know that then, and now that I do, I've cut it out and chilled the hell out and left my poor guy in peace when he just wants a comfy chair, a good book and a glass of wine :) Nice vid
To be honest I've never heard that atheists are angry people, nor have I ever judged one to be angry. Now that I have, it just makes me more and more disappointed in my fellow Christians that they have to resort to this to win an argument.
You've never heard that? It's one of the most common things folks say to me when they learn I'm an atheist: "Why are you so angry at God?" There seems to be an assumption that we know God exists but we're pretending he doesn't because a priest molested us or our fathers had feet of clay or our dogs died when we were six or something.
Thanks for you comment. I wish more religious folks watched my channel; I'd like to think there's room for everyone here.
@OgreVI Well as you've mentioned, you seem very calm and relaxed. And I honestly prefer having these sorts of discussions with atheists, or rather educated atheists, than with Christians. In my experience, Christians get affronted much easier, and I gain no understanding from conversations with them.
I look forward to your future videos; they are very well done.
Christian: "HAH! I knew it! I have proven it, conclusively, unconditionally, universally and eternally that all atheists are angry all the time! You just hate God!"
@gatorboymike Just as a point of interest, why single out Christians? All religions have those those angry, hateful people, just the same as Christianity. Yet you feel the need to call them out like this. Why?
@MrCatalystic Because Christians are the ones who are consistently accusing atheists of being angry, and actively trying to anger us just so they can then accuse us of being angry. If you tally up the times I've heard Christians do that, and all the times I've heard anyone from every other religion combined do that, the ratio would be about 1000 for Christians to 1 for every other religion.
@wearealltubes Haha. Indeed. But seriously, it's almost the same thing. If you ever get around to learning German, if you haven't already that is, watch that clip, it's hilarious. That said, what the woman in your video displays is called passive aggression. Perhaps the most commonly used (very potent) tool of psychological abuse. I'm a very mellow person myself, but masterful use of this technique can even make me angry for a couple of seconds.
Hey, only my second-ever negative comment! Thanks. If folks don't tell me what I'm doing wrong, I'll never learn.
That said, though, "this is stupid" doesn't tell me a whole hell of a lot. So, what didn't you like about it? What struck you as being "stupid"? Be specific.
@OgreVI I put it on my facebook profile. She saw it and said the guy was me, not the woman was her but the guy was me. And then she posted it on her facebook page! WTF!
AUHGH! I've had my gf do that to me before. Not really on a regular basis. I think she's only done that like twice over the entire. I don't think I could take it if she did it on a regular basis.
Consider this in peace: If all you wanted in life was a chair, wine and a good book, then maybe she felt as though you lacked a certain passion that she needed out of life. Maybe you could not meet her needs and she was upset at the realization that you have the nature of a dispassionate man who has given up on feeling anything. Maybe she wanted you to feel your anger so that you would come alive again. Maybe you repress where she loved you enough to try and free you.
If someone's acting like that girlfriend and you try to reply logically/rationally you've lost. It's funny how geeky people can be so smart yet NEVER figure out that one.
The best way to respond is humourously, or change the subject, anything but logic.
Like with the whole 'are you angry?' thing. How about saying 'No, but I AM hungry! Could you fix me a snack?' If she says no then you could sarcastically laughingly say (in a funny tone) 'Well now I'm upset because you won't make me a snack!'
I think this is also why so many geeks either never get relationships or have terrible ones if they do get them. Logic, logic, logic all the time. Which is great for science and problem solving, but TERRIBLE for relationships.
Relationships thrive on things like emotions, humour, that sort of stuff. Not geeky strong suits. (With geek humour rarely appealing to non-geeks at all, and emotions not being their thing.) There's other problems too that geeks uniquely have too though.
Anyhoo though, generally when girlfriends are like that, they just want attention. They may not be looking for an argument, but they may be feeling you're passive aggressively ignoring them in favour of books/jobs etc. To some extend this is unavoidable, but if this happens alot you should PROBABLY pay more attention her.
Could also be a poisonous dominance thing to though. In that case, dump her. Because it won't end well anyway.
my wife tries this, but i call her on it before it escalates. Reminds me of my dogs, (not to say she is a dog though), when my dogs need something they will come and stare, if i dont budge of pay them any mind they start to whine and grumble softly, if i still ignore them, they either paw or wet nose my hand until i give them attention.
Then again "open mindedness" might go both ways and you end up getting the message you didn`t want to hear, so its a risky business but you live & learn, at any rate you learn. I suggest you live a bit faster and go on a second date with someone. You are not going to be on this planet forever, would you like to speak to a wall until the day you die? Something is better nothing. And nothing is pure lack of confidence and total ignorance. Good luck(liked your drawings :-)
Well, don't tell anybody, but I used to work for the NSA. You wouldn't believe the stuff I've got on tape! And if you pay up, none of it'll show up on YouTube...
I'm an angry atheist....and I think I am angry because I was raised in a orthodox christian home. I am angry because of that. I sometimes consider the rational parents I could have been raised under- and how much more stable minded I may be today because of those imaginary parents....but nope, today I am just angry. I am an angry atheist. Human beings suck and there does not seem to be any escaping them.grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Know what you mean about being angry. I was pissed for a long time too. About six years ago I began to do some stretching. I've been stretching ever since. And, I'm less angry. I have no evidence to support this, so take it with a grain, but I think anger gets stuck in tissue. If you don't get rid of it, it stays and putrefies.
Don't know if this is useful, but it came to mind when I read your comment.
Some people do yoga; didn't work for me. Not to say that it doesn't do great work. I learned to stretch safely from Bob Anderson's "Stretching." I don't remember it costing very much. You might want to take a look at it. One thing to remember, improper stretching can do muscle/tissue damage.
No, actually, I'm pretty sure that sexual repression is a big part of this. Just sayin', having grown up in a very religious household, that...yeah, they're totally envious of our wild and licentious ways. There are so many things they'd love to learn from us, if only God would get off their backs...
I love your narrative and you down to earth nature. (or what I can perceive from this side of the screen) Glad to have found you through Theramin. Subbed. :)
@OgreVI I personally was surprised to see that, not only that you responded to me, your responded to me so quickly. After watching more of your videos I must say that you really seem to be a genuine person the youtube community needs more people like you. Your mere presence here makes me smile along with your videos. Continue doing great and beautiful work.
Well, I am moved by that, brother. I appreciate it. And I certainly will continue doing work; as to whether it's great and beautiful or not, well, you must judge that for yourself.
You just got to learn how to play their games. If a woman walks into the room while you're reading a book and she says, "sweetheart? Are you OK?" Just say, "No. This book is terrible. Please come rescue me!"
However, I would be careful about saying things like, "remind me why I married you." That can TOTALLY lead to a HUGE misunderstanding.
i call it the Complimentary Underlying Numeric Test. all women can be given a rating of 1-5 on two scales; one for "crazy" the other for "evil".
as a woman approaches a "perfect 10" on the internationally recognized attractiveness scale, she also approaches the perfect score of completely crazy AND completely evil.
Communicating is always difficult. Perhaps she was the one who had a problem that day? Reading a book is not the most social thing to do, i have been in a similar scene like this with a friend(another story). Sometimes its best to find someone who understands you.
@OgreVI So you need somebody who understands that...no offence but it sounds like you have been single for a while and struggle to get into a relationship. Maybe you should read a book about couples therapy? OH MY GOODNESS SARCASM! :-o NO i am really not as bad as i can sound sometimes. I understand men need to chill out sometimes. The word u are looking for is COMPROMISE..what do u understand about her feelings? Have u deserved that time off? WORK IT BABY!
I'm just not good at relationships, really. I've pretty well settled into confirmed bachelorhood; it suits me, and should be a relief to all women everywhere :)
@OgreVI Guess its a good day for putting yourself down then, is it??? Hmmm?
Where is your stamina? Your inner conversation should NOT be this! If that is what you tell yourself every morning you wake up, then no wonder you are single. ""Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach gym." - Woody Allen
You misunderstood me. I am not *resigned* to living alone, I *prefer* it. Even if I did ever marry, the ideal situation would be for my wife and I to have apartments across the street from each other and to have sleepovers a couple of times a week. I do, really and truly, like being alone.
@OgreVI You need someone who is open minded and patient with you. Maybe Theramin Trees is still single? (Hey if this lane doesn`t work why not try the other one?)
I've spent some time in the other lane, and enjoyed it. I think I belong in this one, but I have no control over who I fall in love with, and it has happened before. Something else to discuss in future videos!
It's not quite called "Shit My Dad Says." The mighty Shatner was in it; don't know if it was any good. Don't really see how it could have been, despite his presence.
@OgreVI "Things My Girlfriend and I Have Argued About." Why is this not yet an internet meme? If Mel Milington can write a book about his relationship with his particular demon, a sitcom inspired by your relationship with your ex should be a breeze. I'm not sure the US audience is quite ready for an Atheist protagonist, but with a few tweaks it could be gold.
I'm not a shrink. I did date a woman before her who was "officially" bipolar (we still called it "manic-depressive" then), though, and this one was nowhere NEAR as difficult to deal with. I think she just liked the emotional rush of a really ugly argument.
@SlideRulePirate The story does seem to resonate. Everyone has been in a relationship like this one. The Woman was actually pretty good to me; she was a bit moody, however.
@adolthitler Not a bad idea. Just leave out all the uncomfortable stuff in the middle and go for the payoff? I shoulda thought of that at the time, I guess.
I am a woman and if my partner was like this it would drive me absolutely crazy. Kinda reminds me of the RecklessTortuga's video spoof "Psycho Girlfriend".
Dont think I would consider myself an "angry athiest" as much as the person bugging me as the "pushy, irritating theist who needs to mind their own business".
I've been accused of being an angry atheists on more than one occasion offline. I don't think I'm angry so much as I'm what would be called "hot-blooded." I tend to be a bit vocal in my opinions.
To women everywhere on behalf of my gender: We are fully aware that not all women are like this, and there are probably a few men that act in similar ways ;)
.... now go back in the kitchen where you belong and make me a sandwich! =P
@TheStigma I've gotten some comments from women who've had boyfriends/husbands who act like this, definitely, though not as many as men. I really believed The Woman was the only one. She was less unique than I thought, apparently.
haha we women are cute way. cant live with us, cant live without us! r u still with that said woman? hehe, good video/explanation about why atheists get angry
@jewellx80 Heh. I'm not gonna commit myself to any general statement about Women, but this one in particular definitely decided she could live very well without me. I'm glad you liked the video.
Enjoy your drawings, especially the way you capture facial expressions. I'm an atheist also. I was angry in my early years of atheism at the people who taught me to feel guilty and ashamed about being human. The church teaches that you are created in god's image, you're a despicable sinner, but you will be forgiven if you follow their rules; rules designed to give them way too much power over your life.
@lc237 Yes, there are many excellent reasons for us to be angry, certainly. There are so many videos about those reasons, though, that I thought I'd go simple: we're tired of being (willfully) misunderstood.
Glad you like the drawings! They're the hardest part, and it pleases me when people dig them.
@nekedemus Yeah, it's perfectly simple to sit and think of nothing, for me at least. Sometimes I just kinda shut down for a few minutes. Some folks don't seem to get that.
@mconn2112 I appreciate that very much. Glad it made you laugh.
I grew up in a house with lots of yelling, too, and I guess I got tired of it then and still dislike it. But the whole story seems to be nearly universal; everyone has a similar story to tell. That's pretty cool.
I grew up in a house with yelling so I learned to argue well. That being said, I never wanted to be that way, like you said. I had someone in my life that used to give me the "why are you so angry?" line. Even when I wasn't angry, but she knew my buttons.
I really dig your style brother and this video made me laugh out loud a couple times, especially considering I can relate. Great vid. :-)
Sorry not to reply properly - youtube mobile has its limitations. :-) I am most definitely a fan of The Onion. Check out my playlists for vid responses to dozens of their videos.
Another great video! I think you're right that most atheists just want to live their lives like everyone else, but the stigma is that they are radicals who want to destroy everything but an atheist point of view. I know some do, that true, but it's no different than Christians or any other religion wanting to eradicate atheists.
Yeah, like everyone else, most of us are peaceful and some of us aren't. I will say that I know of no atheist anywhere near as repulsive as Fred Phelps.
How could you be with someone like that
Duodecillian 2 months ago
@Duodecillian
I'm sorry, I did not make it clear that the relationship was a good one, except for this particular flaw. Each of us, though, is flawed; her flaw was that she loved a good fight. I have been with many people whose flaws were more disturbing.
OgreVI 2 months ago
It is/was just her way of getting attention. She was trying to tell you to pay more attention to her without actually telling you that because if she did, it would be meaningless. Dig?
ndyt 5 months ago
@ndyt
I'm hip. I wish she hadn't needed quite so MUCH attention, though.
OgreVI 5 months ago
@OgreVI, yes, this is why the human race is doomed the day we create robotic women! XD
ndyt 5 months ago
@ndyt
And on that front, the Japanese are hell-bent on armageddon!
OgreVI 5 months ago
@bandwagon2010
See, you got the point! Thanks.
OgreVI 5 months ago
Men do it, too. I lived with a man who loved to argue. Everywhere. He'd chase me up and down the aisles of a store when we were shopping if he was in the mood to argue. He even accused me of having an affair with a man who was at least 40 years older than I because I used to talk to him at the local laundromat. He'd come home and change the TV channel while I was in the middle of watching a movie, just to start a fight. I think he learned that behavior from his parents, who fought a lot.
YY4Me133 5 months ago in playlist More videos from OgreVI
@YY4Me133
Yeah, it's definitely not just a female thing (as I mentioned in other comments, until I posted this I really thought it was unique to her). Some folks just like to argue, and they'll get their argument however they can, I guess.
OgreVI 5 months ago
@OgreVI I had to comment, not because of anything in your video, but because some of the other commenters seem to think being argumentative is a female trait. I just wanted to set the record straight. I didn't get the impression from anything you said that you generalized her behavior to include all women. And, as I said, I think it has a lot to do with what kids see their parents do. Or, maybe it's that, plus how they respond to what they see. Anyway, I love your videos.
YY4Me133 5 months ago
@YY4Me133
I'm glad you like them!
My folks used to argue a lot, but I went the other way. If I start to get angry, I have to walk away. I was always pretty disgusted with them when they did that, so I won't do it myself.
OgreVI 5 months ago
@OgreVI Some people seem to be more comfortable with what's familiar, even if it's pretty awful. I had a friend who loved a nasty character on a TV show. One day I found out why: she reminded him of his mother. He also used to try to goad me into arguments, but I didn't understand why until right now. Funny how it can take years to see something that seems so obvious when you finally make the connection.
YY4Me133 5 months ago
OrgeVI you have become one of my favorite Youtubers within 3 videos really.
In my top 3 no bs about it.
Nastuf 6 months ago
@Nastuf
Well, thank you!
Which three videos, if you don't mind the asking?
OgreVI 5 months ago
I love this, I can relate..I was thinking that in "Atheist vs. Theist" debates this kind of arguing happens, I mean deceptive, illogical & useless arguing. It irritates the atheist who is likely to explode...being only human...
uilium 7 months ago
Hello OgreVI,
Could you please upload or email me that picture of your angry face?
We've all seen your video and quote the "Stop hasslin' me you goddamn lunatic!!"
And we'd love that little picture to use via the interwebs!
PhatLarkin 7 months ago
@PhatLarkin
Who is "we"? Do I have a cult following? That would be awesome.
Sure, send me your e-mail via PM, and use it how you like. All I ask is that you send folks here if they like it.
OgreVI 7 months ago
HA! Girlfriends are as irrational are religious people!
That is an awesome video and I wonder how many guys were thinking about past fights when watching this.
Silentsam7532 7 months ago
its just that this makes me angry and that I am an athiest, so therefore this makes me into this boring video. by the way the argument between the couple makes the woman sound paranoid and whiney which would make me angry if I was that dude................................this is a bad representation of what Athiest are lol its just bad. so yeahhhhh.
burrochapadogrl 7 months ago
I used to be that girl. I think it was a personality disorder. It was a need for attention of any sort. Of course I didn't know that then, and now that I do, I've cut it out and chilled the hell out and left my poor guy in peace when he just wants a comfy chair, a good book and a glass of wine :) Nice vid
Verseaurainbows 8 months ago 2
@Verseaurainbows
Thank you very much!
OgreVI 8 months ago
To be honest I've never heard that atheists are angry people, nor have I ever judged one to be angry. Now that I have, it just makes me more and more disappointed in my fellow Christians that they have to resort to this to win an argument.
MrCatalystic 8 months ago
@MrCatalystic
You've never heard that? It's one of the most common things folks say to me when they learn I'm an atheist: "Why are you so angry at God?" There seems to be an assumption that we know God exists but we're pretending he doesn't because a priest molested us or our fathers had feet of clay or our dogs died when we were six or something.
Thanks for you comment. I wish more religious folks watched my channel; I'd like to think there's room for everyone here.
OgreVI 8 months ago
@OgreVI Well as you've mentioned, you seem very calm and relaxed. And I honestly prefer having these sorts of discussions with atheists, or rather educated atheists, than with Christians. In my experience, Christians get affronted much easier, and I gain no understanding from conversations with them.
I look forward to your future videos; they are very well done.
MrCatalystic 8 months ago
Christian: "You atheists are always so angry all the time!"
Atheist: "No, I wouldn't say that I'm any angrier than most people."
Christian: "Yes you are!"
Atheist: "No I'm not."
Christian: "Are too! Are too!"
Atheist: "Stop that."
Christian: "You're angry! You're angry! Angryangryangryangryangry--!"
Atheist: "Shut up!"
Christian: "HAH! I knew it! I have proven it, conclusively, unconditionally, universally and eternally that all atheists are angry all the time! You just hate God!"
gatorboymike 8 months ago 5
@gatorboymike
Exactly!
OgreVI 8 months ago
@gatorboymike Just as a point of interest, why single out Christians? All religions have those those angry, hateful people, just the same as Christianity. Yet you feel the need to call them out like this. Why?
MrCatalystic 8 months ago
@MrCatalystic Because Christians are the ones who are consistently accusing atheists of being angry, and actively trying to anger us just so they can then accuse us of being angry. If you tally up the times I've heard Christians do that, and all the times I've heard anyone from every other religion combined do that, the ratio would be about 1000 for Christians to 1 for every other religion.
gatorboymike 8 months ago
some very good points in the video actually.
CircusOfBedlam 8 months ago
Ah, you stole this, man, totally. watch?v=PgqpJlV1JuI .
Samuraionthewall 8 months ago
@Samuraionthewall WTF? It's in German!
wearealltubes 8 months ago
@wearealltubes Haha. Indeed. But seriously, it's almost the same thing. If you ever get around to learning German, if you haven't already that is, watch that clip, it's hilarious. That said, what the woman in your video displays is called passive aggression. Perhaps the most commonly used (very potent) tool of psychological abuse. I'm a very mellow person myself, but masterful use of this technique can even make me angry for a couple of seconds.
Samuraionthewall 8 months ago
this is stupid
burrochapadogrl 8 months ago
@burrochapadogrl
Hey, only my second-ever negative comment! Thanks. If folks don't tell me what I'm doing wrong, I'll never learn.
That said, though, "this is stupid" doesn't tell me a whole hell of a lot. So, what didn't you like about it? What struck you as being "stupid"? Be specific.
OgreVI 8 months ago
Man I was so tempted to post this on my ex girlfriend's facebook page but, with great effort, I was able to restrain myself...
I can really relate to this.... :(
FlaviusMaximus1967 8 months ago
@FlaviusMaximus1967
That would have been awesome. You should totally have pretended to me that you did. It would have made my night.
OgreVI 8 months ago
@OgreVI I put it on my facebook profile. She saw it and said the guy was me, not the woman was her but the guy was me. And then she posted it on her facebook page! WTF!
FlaviusMaximus1967 8 months ago
@FlaviusMaximus1967
Now, that's funny!
OgreVI 8 months ago
My GF does that sometimes. I lol'd because I know the situation.
bignastydragon 8 months ago
When you said "...and you came around making me crazy", it kinda sounded like seinfeld.
fantasy0coach 8 months ago
Although I think the Amazing Atheist may not be helping our image of not being continually angered.
JamesThWilliams 8 months ago
@JamesThWilliams
I figure that if there's a total well of available atheist anger out there, TJ is doing the rest of us a favor by taking it all himself ;)
OgreVI 8 months ago
AUHGH! I've had my gf do that to me before. Not really on a regular basis. I think she's only done that like twice over the entire. I don't think I could take it if she did it on a regular basis.
YourFavoriteKilljoy 8 months ago
Consider this in peace: If all you wanted in life was a chair, wine and a good book, then maybe she felt as though you lacked a certain passion that she needed out of life. Maybe you could not meet her needs and she was upset at the realization that you have the nature of a dispassionate man who has given up on feeling anything. Maybe she wanted you to feel your anger so that you would come alive again. Maybe you repress where she loved you enough to try and free you.
jeff101962 8 months ago
If someone's acting like that girlfriend and you try to reply logically/rationally you've lost. It's funny how geeky people can be so smart yet NEVER figure out that one.
The best way to respond is humourously, or change the subject, anything but logic.
Like with the whole 'are you angry?' thing. How about saying 'No, but I AM hungry! Could you fix me a snack?' If she says no then you could sarcastically laughingly say (in a funny tone) 'Well now I'm upset because you won't make me a snack!'
TheSkunkCat 8 months ago
@TheSkunkCat
I think this is also why so many geeks either never get relationships or have terrible ones if they do get them. Logic, logic, logic all the time. Which is great for science and problem solving, but TERRIBLE for relationships.
Relationships thrive on things like emotions, humour, that sort of stuff. Not geeky strong suits. (With geek humour rarely appealing to non-geeks at all, and emotions not being their thing.) There's other problems too that geeks uniquely have too though.
TheSkunkCat 8 months ago
@TheSkunkCat
Anyhoo though, generally when girlfriends are like that, they just want attention. They may not be looking for an argument, but they may be feeling you're passive aggressively ignoring them in favour of books/jobs etc. To some extend this is unavoidable, but if this happens alot you should PROBABLY pay more attention her.
Could also be a poisonous dominance thing to though. In that case, dump her. Because it won't end well anyway.
TheSkunkCat 8 months ago
my wife tries this, but i call her on it before it escalates. Reminds me of my dogs, (not to say she is a dog though), when my dogs need something they will come and stare, if i dont budge of pay them any mind they start to whine and grumble softly, if i still ignore them, they either paw or wet nose my hand until i give them attention.
Hectortuba155817 8 months ago
I've never thought that Atheists were angry..
Everyone believes what they want to believe.
You can't force someone to change so just accept them for the wonderful things that they are. :]
XoRAWRRoX 8 months ago
@XoRAWRRoX
I'm hip. As long as folks have decent manners and something interesting to say, the rest is gravy.
OgreVI 8 months ago
Then again "open mindedness" might go both ways and you end up getting the message you didn`t want to hear, so its a risky business but you live & learn, at any rate you learn. I suggest you live a bit faster and go on a second date with someone. You are not going to be on this planet forever, would you like to speak to a wall until the day you die? Something is better nothing. And nothing is pure lack of confidence and total ignorance. Good luck(liked your drawings :-)
74Charm 8 months ago
@74Charm
But I'm not talking to a wall, honey, I'm talking to you :)
As far as living fast goes, well, wait for future videos. Have I got some stories for you!
OgreVI 8 months ago
@OgreVI
Do you have videos of me and my ex wife somewhere, and how did you get them? This is EXACTLY like what my marriage was like.
TheTexanCanadian 8 months ago
@TheTexanCanadian
Well, don't tell anybody, but I used to work for the NSA. You wouldn't believe the stuff I've got on tape! And if you pay up, none of it'll show up on YouTube...
OgreVI 8 months ago
I'm an angry atheist....and I think I am angry because I was raised in a orthodox christian home. I am angry because of that. I sometimes consider the rational parents I could have been raised under- and how much more stable minded I may be today because of those imaginary parents....but nope, today I am just angry. I am an angry atheist. Human beings suck and there does not seem to be any escaping them.grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Jeffersonwazright 9 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright
Hi Jefferson,
Know what you mean about being angry. I was pissed for a long time too. About six years ago I began to do some stretching. I've been stretching ever since. And, I'm less angry. I have no evidence to support this, so take it with a grain, but I think anger gets stuck in tissue. If you don't get rid of it, it stays and putrefies.
Don't know if this is useful, but it came to mind when I read your comment.
joethemoproductions 9 months ago
@joethemoproductions I really appreciate your comment. I may give it some consideration.
Jeffersonwazright 9 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright
HI Jefferson,
Some people do yoga; didn't work for me. Not to say that it doesn't do great work. I learned to stretch safely from Bob Anderson's "Stretching." I don't remember it costing very much. You might want to take a look at it. One thing to remember, improper stretching can do muscle/tissue damage.
Cheers
joethemoproductions 9 months ago
@joethemoproductions ok now you are flirting with being a salesman. Thats enough now
Jeffersonwazright 9 months ago
@Jeffersonwazright
sorry about that. just wanted to be thorough.
cheers
joethemoproductions 9 months ago
@joethemoproductions Good luck to ya.
Jeffersonwazright 9 months ago
Does this mean all those theists secretly want to passionately make love with us? 0.o
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I think I may have taken the analogy too far... ;)
Afterthoughtbtw 9 months ago 11
@Afterthoughtbtw
No, actually, I'm pretty sure that sexual repression is a big part of this. Just sayin', having grown up in a very religious household, that...yeah, they're totally envious of our wild and licentious ways. There are so many things they'd love to learn from us, if only God would get off their backs...
OgreVI 9 months ago 11
I love your narrative and you down to earth nature. (or what I can perceive from this side of the screen) Glad to have found you through Theramin. Subbed. :)
(My names a joke)
Faithmaster 9 months ago
@Faithmaster
Well, thanks, and welcome!
(I believe you)
OgreVI 9 months ago
@OgreVI I personally was surprised to see that, not only that you responded to me, your responded to me so quickly. After watching more of your videos I must say that you really seem to be a genuine person the youtube community needs more people like you. Your mere presence here makes me smile along with your videos. Continue doing great and beautiful work.
Faithmaster 9 months ago
@Faithmaster
Well, I am moved by that, brother. I appreciate it. And I certainly will continue doing work; as to whether it's great and beautiful or not, well, you must judge that for yourself.
OgreVI 9 months ago
I'm here from TheraminTrees as well. Subbed.
colossus999 9 months ago
@colossus999
Glad to see you here!
OgreVI 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This is why you beat your women
thebeartaxes 9 months ago
Theramintrees brought me here!
Then I watched all of your videos
Then I subscribed
You are actually great.
BTW did you notice a few coming here from theramintrees?
AlexPiti5 9 months ago
@AlexPiti5 I came here from TheraminTrees too. I didn't watch all of OgreVI's videos, but I did subscribe.
Good stuff!, thanks OgreVI and TheraminTrees.
ghuegel 9 months ago
@ghuegel
Well, I can't speak for TT, but on my own behalf, I'm glad you're here.
OgreVI 9 months ago
@AlexPiti5
I did indeed! I'm very pleased that he noticed me.
Well, thanks for coming, and I'm glad you like my stuff. "Great" is a word, I confess, that I never get tired of hearing.
OgreVI 9 months ago
I think your ex and my ex might be the same person... either that, or she might be both of my parents.
Are you in a mood? Why are you avoiding me? Did I do something to offend you?
I'm a student. I'm studying.
So, what, you can't study near me?
I need to concentrate, things distract me.
Oh, I'm a distraction?
Rarr rarr rarr.
Clearly this is a sign of how closed-minded, anti-social, immoral and angry we are.
athywren 9 months ago
@athywren
I know, right? We're such terrible people.
That student conversation...oh man, I remember that.
OgreVI 9 months ago
You just got to learn how to play their games. If a woman walks into the room while you're reading a book and she says, "sweetheart? Are you OK?" Just say, "No. This book is terrible. Please come rescue me!"
However, I would be careful about saying things like, "remind me why I married you." That can TOTALLY lead to a HUGE misunderstanding.
JamesMorlan 9 months ago
@JamesMorlan
Well, of course, it's especially dangerous when one of the problems is that you haven't married her...
OgreVI 9 months ago
i call it the Complimentary Underlying Numeric Test. all women can be given a rating of 1-5 on two scales; one for "crazy" the other for "evil".
as a woman approaches a "perfect 10" on the internationally recognized attractiveness scale, she also approaches the perfect score of completely crazy AND completely evil.
knowthingman 9 months ago
Communicating is always difficult. Perhaps she was the one who had a problem that day? Reading a book is not the most social thing to do, i have been in a similar scene like this with a friend(another story). Sometimes its best to find someone who understands you.
74Charm 9 months ago
@74Charm
I think that might be the problem. I don't need to be understood. I just need to be left alone when we aren't actively doing something together.
OgreVI 9 months ago
@OgreVI So you need somebody who understands that...no offence but it sounds like you have been single for a while and struggle to get into a relationship. Maybe you should read a book about couples therapy? OH MY GOODNESS SARCASM! :-o NO i am really not as bad as i can sound sometimes. I understand men need to chill out sometimes. The word u are looking for is COMPROMISE..what do u understand about her feelings? Have u deserved that time off? WORK IT BABY!
74Charm 9 months ago
@74Charm
I'm just not good at relationships, really. I've pretty well settled into confirmed bachelorhood; it suits me, and should be a relief to all women everywhere :)
OgreVI 9 months ago
@OgreVI Guess its a good day for putting yourself down then, is it??? Hmmm?
Where is your stamina? Your inner conversation should NOT be this! If that is what you tell yourself every morning you wake up, then no wonder you are single. ""Those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach, teach gym." - Woody Allen
74Charm 8 months ago
@74Charm
You misunderstood me. I am not *resigned* to living alone, I *prefer* it. Even if I did ever marry, the ideal situation would be for my wife and I to have apartments across the street from each other and to have sleepovers a couple of times a week. I do, really and truly, like being alone.
OgreVI 8 months ago
@OgreVI You need someone who is open minded and patient with you. Maybe Theramin Trees is still single? (Hey if this lane doesn`t work why not try the other one?)
74Charm 8 months ago
@74Charm
I've spent some time in the other lane, and enjoyed it. I think I belong in this one, but I have no control over who I fall in love with, and it has happened before. Something else to discuss in future videos!
OgreVI 8 months ago
I can feel my blood pressure is rising.
infinit888 9 months ago
I actually had a situation like this situation happen to me...
sabertooth1980 9 months ago
Hard! ...to live with them or without them. Girls learn early how to get under our skin.
Amen and a-women to frenzied love-making!
ergonomover 9 months ago
Bitches, man. Bitches.
timmysquidfingers 9 months ago
This is good. Really good.
Fudmottin 9 months ago
I've known so many people like this.
TheSkepticalIdealist 9 months ago
I like this and the college story.
SpookyFan 9 months ago
Too painful
calmreason 9 months ago
I smell a sitcom pilot
stiimuli 9 months ago
@stiimuli
Hell, if they can make a sitcom out of a Twitter feed, why not, right?
OgreVI 9 months ago
@OgreVI
What sitcom is that?
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 9 months ago
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi
It's not quite called "Shit My Dad Says." The mighty Shatner was in it; don't know if it was any good. Don't really see how it could have been, despite his presence.
OgreVI 9 months ago
@OgreVI "Things My Girlfriend and I Have Argued About." Why is this not yet an internet meme? If Mel Milington can write a book about his relationship with his particular demon, a sitcom inspired by your relationship with your ex should be a breeze. I'm not sure the US audience is quite ready for an Atheist protagonist, but with a few tweaks it could be gold.
TheVaroEdition 9 months ago
@TheVaroEdition
I don't know. Isn't "House" an atheist? Although perhaps he's more of an anti-hero. I'm no Hugh Laurie, of course, but still...
OgreVI 9 months ago
@OgreVI House is agnostic. But when that series is over, we maybe could get Hugh Laurie to play you in the sitcom...
TheVaroEdition 9 months ago
She sounds bipolar
rastarigate 9 months ago
@rastarigate
I'm not a shrink. I did date a woman before her who was "officially" bipolar (we still called it "manic-depressive" then), though, and this one was nowhere NEAR as difficult to deal with. I think she just liked the emotional rush of a really ugly argument.
OgreVI 9 months ago
Dude, you rock.
SomeRandomAspie 9 months ago
@SomeRandomAspie
Thank you very much.
OgreVI 9 months ago
i was taking a drink at about 3:57 and then nearly choked to death from laughing.
thanks.
you almost killed a person.
alixinthemiddle 9 months ago
@alixinthemiddle
Well, that wasn't my intention, but I admit I'd be perversely pleased if I actually made someone die laughing.
Wildwood Claire likes that bit, too...she's used that clip in a couple of vids. I almost cut it at the last minute, but I'm sure glad I didn't.
OgreVI 9 months ago
That is PMS ....good vid
invisibletime 9 months ago
WildWoodClaire1 sent me. Great vid. Subscribed.
Pushtrak 10 months ago
@Pushtrak Well, thanks for subscribing, and I'm glad you dug the vid!
OgreVI 10 months ago
Hahahaha. Well, at least I know who my ex wife ended up with.
tommy605 11 months ago
@tommy605 Heh. Thanks for that.
OgreVI 11 months ago
One of my top 10 favorite youtube videos of all time, Great work!
lvkid7 11 months ago
@lvkid7 Top 10? High praise! Thanks for that, and for subscribing.
OgreVI 11 months ago
All sounds pretty familiar. Reminds me of my first long-term relationship.
I'm a pretty easygoing type of guy who, at the time, was inexperienced, in-love, naive and only wanted to make her happy.
As was probably entirely predictable to everyone else, I was manipulated and taken advantage of.
Now I may sound a total wimp, but at the time I just didn't realise that people could behave like that.
Well, I got wise and found the steeper the learning curve the better the view from the top.
SlideRulePirate 11 months ago
@SlideRulePirate The story does seem to resonate. Everyone has been in a relationship like this one. The Woman was actually pretty good to me; she was a bit moody, however.
OgreVI 11 months ago
"Honey is something wrong?"
"Yes I am horny lets fuck!"
adolthitler 11 months ago
@adolthitler Not a bad idea. Just leave out all the uncomfortable stuff in the middle and go for the payoff? I shoulda thought of that at the time, I guess.
OgreVI 11 months ago
@OgreVI I did try it, and there is no escaping the fight. 8-( The bitch wants, what the bitch wants.
adolthitler 11 months ago
@adolthitler That's not how I'd put it, but as I say in the video, she knew how to get what she'd come for.
OgreVI 11 months ago
I lol'd, liked the video veary much.
steffenomak 11 months ago
@steffenomak Thank you for saying so!
OgreVI 11 months ago
I am a woman and if my partner was like this it would drive me absolutely crazy. Kinda reminds me of the RecklessTortuga's video spoof "Psycho Girlfriend".
Dont think I would consider myself an "angry athiest" as much as the person bugging me as the "pushy, irritating theist who needs to mind their own business".
skeletonmom 11 months ago
@skeletonmom Certainly, if the religious would leave me alone, I would leave them alone. Don't think that'll ever happen, though.
Don't know the spoof you mention, but I like its title.
OgreVI 11 months ago
I've been accused of being an angry atheists on more than one occasion offline. I don't think I'm angry so much as I'm what would be called "hot-blooded." I tend to be a bit vocal in my opinions.
Zoten001 11 months ago
@Zoten001 As everyone should be. The world would be a better place if we all actually said what we thought instead of festering or using euphemisms.
OgreVI 11 months ago
You make a very good point about why atheists are angry.
To be honest, at the beginning, although I am a woman, I side entirely with that long-suffering husband. :)
dewinthemorning 11 months ago
@dewinthemorning Thank you.
Well, you're siding with the right person, then :)
OgreVI 11 months ago
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JinxedOut 11 months ago
@JinxedOut Ah, evil woman ;)
OgreVI 11 months ago
Nice video. Good job.
coolman9999uk 11 months ago
@coolman9999uk Thank you for saying so. I looooove positive reinforcement.
OgreVI 11 months ago
Great video. I can definitely relate to that.
To women everywhere on behalf of my gender: We are fully aware that not all women are like this, and there are probably a few men that act in similar ways ;)
.... now go back in the kitchen where you belong and make me a sandwich! =P
TheStigma 11 months ago
@TheStigma I've gotten some comments from women who've had boyfriends/husbands who act like this, definitely, though not as many as men. I really believed The Woman was the only one. She was less unique than I thought, apparently.
OgreVI 11 months ago
Harvey Pekar mark II
arseymcpherson 11 months ago
@arseymcpherson Wow. I KNOW that's a compliment! Thank you very much!
OgreVI 11 months ago
Your two cents are worth more than two cents.Great video and well worth the time watching.
mrblacksheep1o1 11 months ago
@mrblacksheep1o1 I'm glad you liked it, and thanks for saying so.
OgreVI 11 months ago
haha we women are cute way. cant live with us, cant live without us! r u still with that said woman? hehe, good video/explanation about why atheists get angry
jewellx80 11 months ago
@jewellx80 Heh. I'm not gonna commit myself to any general statement about Women, but this one in particular definitely decided she could live very well without me. I'm glad you liked the video.
OgreVI 11 months ago
nicely made video!
Pineconevolved 11 months ago
@Pineconevolved Thanks!
OgreVI 11 months ago
Enjoy your drawings, especially the way you capture facial expressions. I'm an atheist also. I was angry in my early years of atheism at the people who taught me to feel guilty and ashamed about being human. The church teaches that you are created in god's image, you're a despicable sinner, but you will be forgiven if you follow their rules; rules designed to give them way too much power over your life.
lc237 11 months ago
@lc237 Yes, there are many excellent reasons for us to be angry, certainly. There are so many videos about those reasons, though, that I thought I'd go simple: we're tired of being (willfully) misunderstood.
Glad you like the drawings! They're the hardest part, and it pleases me when people dig them.
OgreVI 11 months ago
Great story, leading to a terrific point.
WildwoodClaire1 11 months ago
@WildwoodClaire1 Thank you. I especially love compliments from people whose work I enjoy as much as yours!
OgreVI 11 months ago
I know her. She asked "what are you thinking"
Anyone who know blokes like me, ought to know that when sight is on infinity and the body is in "no move mode", absolutely no thinking is going on.
all hell broke loose when I answered "nothing".
The rest of the day was something like this.
Why wont you tell me what you was thinking ?
I wasn´t thinking.
It´s impossible not to think. Was it about me ?
Not for me. Maybe I was thinking about nails or soup cans.
I don´t believe you. On and on and on.
nekedemus 11 months ago
@nekedemus Yeah, it's perfectly simple to sit and think of nothing, for me at least. Sometimes I just kinda shut down for a few minutes. Some folks don't seem to get that.
OgreVI 11 months ago
brilliant video, very well done. I love your style and how you present your arguments. I look forward to seeing more from you.
MsSquarebearz 11 months ago
@MsSquarebearz And I love your use of the word "brilliant." Thank you very much, both for the comment and for subscribing.
OgreVI 11 months ago
phenomenal vid! you really got the point across beautifully! found you thru mconn. favd and subd! :D
jakluk4 11 months ago
@jakluk4 Thank you very much for saying so. And, you're subscriber #150; I consider that auspicious.
OgreVI 11 months ago
I'm going to feature this by the way. ;-)
mconn2112 11 months ago
@mconn2112 I appreciate that very much. Glad it made you laugh.
I grew up in a house with lots of yelling, too, and I guess I got tired of it then and still dislike it. But the whole story seems to be nearly universal; everyone has a similar story to tell. That's pretty cool.
OgreVI 11 months ago
I grew up in a house with yelling so I learned to argue well. That being said, I never wanted to be that way, like you said. I had someone in my life that used to give me the "why are you so angry?" line. Even when I wasn't angry, but she knew my buttons.
I really dig your style brother and this video made me laugh out loud a couple times, especially considering I can relate. Great vid. :-)
mconn2112 11 months ago
Good vid. I can seriously relate - I remember the "are you alright" argument very well.
It looks like you've developed quite the following as well. Good on ye!
fuerve 11 months ago
@fuerve It does seem so. It's a little overwhelming, but it feels pretty good.
OgreVI 11 months ago
that was fucking brilliant.lol
TheLunarmonkey 11 months ago
@TheLunarmonkey Thanks!
OgreVI 11 months ago
Story of my life. Sweet vid.
DonQuixotedeKaw 11 months ago
@DonQuixotedeKaw Thanks!
OgreVI 11 months ago
Sorry not to reply properly - youtube mobile has its limitations. :-) I am most definitely a fan of The Onion. Check out my playlists for vid responses to dozens of their videos.
OnionTrollsAlliance 11 months ago
@OnionTrollsAlliance I will.
OgreVI 11 months ago
Hey, I just got my first-ever "dislike"! Another level up!
OgreVI 11 months ago
@OgreVI: Possibly a vote from a woman who empathised with your passive-aggressive ex?
JCLeSinge 11 months ago
@JCLeSinge Hell, it might be from her own self. I've kinda lost track of her.
OgreVI 11 months ago
Another great video! I think you're right that most atheists just want to live their lives like everyone else, but the stigma is that they are radicals who want to destroy everything but an atheist point of view. I know some do, that true, but it's no different than Christians or any other religion wanting to eradicate atheists.
me66icat 11 months ago
@me66icat Hey man, thanks.
Yeah, like everyone else, most of us are peaceful and some of us aren't. I will say that I know of no atheist anywhere near as repulsive as Fred Phelps.
OgreVI 11 months ago