bunch of liberals. it honestly isn't the banks problem. I personally will never live on a mortgage I will pay rent to someone. If you can't afford your bills its your fault. not the banks/governments... If you can't pay the bills move somewhere that fits your income. this country is based on independence and surviving on your own. If you dont survive in this country and dont have a place to live its your fault. end of story. though I do agree the banks are greedy but still, not their fault.
Nothing is wrong, The economy is picking up, Mores homes are being sold, Iraq is becoming stabilized, The dollar is picking up steam again, Drug trafficking is being dealt with, More money for education, Obama's health bill will cover more people, And everything is gonna be OK...... If you believe everything i said is true then i want what you're smoking. As George Carlin called it, The American Okeydoke is just an empty slogan. We going to hit a wall and no one is wearing a seatbelt....
@Zuroq Yes. Of course, as far as we understand it, it is also illegal for banks to foreclose on homes for which they cannot provide proof of ownership, and they have done this by the tens of thousands.
A lot of those people used to live in those apartments and pay they're rent to the owners. When the economy collapsed the rent increased so dramatically no one in the community could afford to live there. These people are breaking in because they have no were els to go. You tell them to get a job? What job? You think that a Mc Donald's salary is going cover that $2000 a month apartment? And thats not for a nice place, thats for a moldy 1 bedroom basement infested with rats and cockroaches.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS CORRUPT SYSTEM.IT IS GREAT FOR FEW BUT BAD FOR MOST OF US. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS OUT THERE BUT WE HAVE TO BRING THEM OURSELVES. BECAUSE THOSE IN POWER DON'T WANT TO. -A SOLUTION IS A RESOURCE-BASED ECONOMY,LEARN ABOUT IT.-SPREAD THE WORD.
Point of Information: 702 is not actually owned by a bank. It is currently in the process of foreclosure, but the deed is still help by an (as yet anonymous) individual. This man has been hunted down by the NYPD, and they are currently trying to get him to say that he is not ok with the occupation of his home, so they can get in there can crack heads.
@nikiparrox oh,ok.I just saw another vid on this,looks like they're trying to help the homeowners work out reasonable rates and keep their homes,which is a great thing.hope they can afford their property tax.ny is expensive.
Our federal, state and local govt are the Traitors! These govts are feeding us, the people, to the sharks! I don't necessarily agree of Occupying Foreclosed Homes BUT what should have been done is...The Banks with the pressure from our Government SHOULD REWRITE ALL CURRENT MORTGAGES TO IT'S CURRENT MARKET VALUE to make them affordable at this Current Economic Conditions! Since they, the banks and govt, are not stepping up to the needs of the people THEN WE, THE PEOPLE, TAKE NECESSARY ACTIONS!
incredibly moving story, beautifully told.........and beautifully shot. There has to be a way to bring together all this empty housing and all the people who need homes. OWS is standing now for families and communities....brilliant!
Mayor Bloomberg, here's my advice: shut your eyes real tight, plug up yr ears and wish really, really hard and it will ALLLL GO AWAY. It will get cold and wintry and they'll ALLLL GO AWAY. Like magic. Yeah, f'real.
This is NOT "democracy"! This is anarchy! I have never seen a worse rationalization for stealing private property. You people elected leaders who sold you on the idea of sub prime mortgages to make "affordable housing". Go get those leaders to bail you out and make your house payments! I find this kind of rationalized theft to be disgusting, revolting, and scary. I hope your movement finds some way to move itself into oblivion, because no intelligent person can endorse this theft.
@billcarrothers , when BORROWING someone else's money to buy a big home, you are endangering all around you. you dont "own" the house...you are merely given permission by the lender to live in the home while you keep paying...you know...like rent to buy. Give it up ... its not your home...it belongs to the one who Payed up front for it...(the bank/lender).
@billcarrothers Dubbing this "stealing" fails to address the complexities involved in this issue. It would be more useful to regard these as acts of civil disobedience similar to the occupation of Alcatraz in '71, or the blocking of IHotel evictions in '77. Those earlier actions were definitely illegal as well, but when people feel they have been wronged, and when their protestations are not heard, they take action.
@ChrisnStarry Taitor? I'm telling you, idiot! You, & those that don't want to live up to their legal agreements are traitors! When you buy a home, you sign a contract to make payments, until paid in full! Not screw the bank. There are no "Predatory Lenders"! People that default, know they can't afford them, so shouldn't enter into the commit! They knew they were going to eventually falter! Take responsibility, and stop blaming everyone else, Schmuck!
@rasseng The Banks are the traitors. The Central Bank and Federal Reserve is the problem. Mortgages R a sham. ppl should own their land & property. not the Banks. My parents used to be able to own there land without a mortgage. The sell your mortgage on the open market several times and make millions on your tiny home. They are devaluing the dollar to make us all more enslaved to them. The system must go. Freedom is the key. U never own your property bc pay taxes which are a lien on ur property
@1lady4freedom Another ignorant young idiot! Unless you are from an extremely wealthy family, your parents had a mortgage just like everybody else for over the past 100+ years. I am much older than you are, and my parents own their home now, but had a mortgage at one time. Yes you pay taxes, everybody does, so that is a mute point. You are living in an imaginary and unrealistic dream world.
@rasseng U must be joking. U are livin in the dream world until you lose you job.MY parents "owned" their home but the government can take it anytime & not just for not paying your taxes bc of hardship but repossess under eminent domain. btw born in 1964 do the math. Th reasn our parents could afford a home & many bought w/o mortgages is the same reasn they could pay for their own college w/o loans. The price of inflation, the central banks & devaluing of the dollar is the main problem
@rasseng Even if you pay you DO NOT own the property!!! Look on your paper work!!! you are listed as a TENET. All who thumbed this ignorant comment up, need to learn about the 1933 BANKRUPTCY!!! YOU OWN NOTHING!!!
@ChrisnStarry OK, first the term is "tenant" moron! Secondly, if you pay your mortgage for the length of the loan, at the end you receive the deed and the property is yours, you friggin' imbecile! Kind of like my grandparents, and parents have done! Don't be claiming others as ignorant, when you are a total and absolute idiot!
@1lady4freedom In another 15 years, my home will be all mine! I took out a loan & bought it. Now I must pay it back, & interest to the bank for loaning me the money. Of course many wealthy could buy their homes outright, but the majority of us don't have the lump sum to do so. Our taxes are paid to support the govt. and agencies that help us live our lives, such as; schools, law enforcement, fire fighters, and other services, that you think are there for you by magic.
@rasseng no I do not think they are there by magic but the "income" tax and property taxes are crap. No property tax in DE and they seem to fund everything just fine. The income tax does not go toward all that it all goes to interest on the Debt we have for the on going wars.
@OccupyIdeas What does the G.I. Bill have to do with anything being discussed? My parents and grandparents originally bought homes in New york, then in California years later. All bought with loans and paid back in full, the way hard working, law abiding, responsible people do it!
@OccupyIdeas Yes really! I bought my home 20 years ago, and there was no G.I. Bill then. Most people buy their homes without any benefit of a G.I.Bill. The G.I. Bill has nothing to do with anything currently occurring in the US or the world.
@rasseng Our question was, did your parents or grandparents receive the GI Bill, or did other people in their neighborhood? We'll explain why the GI bill is important in this discussion, but we think you may already know why.
@rasseng "Most people buy their...benefit of the GI Bill." This is not true. If your family did then they are in the minority. The GI bill played a fundamental role in our home ownership society, and those who bought homes with (or lived in areas where homes increased in value because of) the GI Bill passed their wealth (not money, wealth) on to the next two generations. Those who were redlined out of these opportunities, Af. Ams., for example, were precluded from passing this wealth on.
@OccupyIdeas No it does not. It also doesn't resemble the climate when I purchased my home either, or even five years ago! People, unless extremely wealthy buy their homes by getting a loan from a bank, and without a G.I. Bill! This isn't 1889, and the govt. isn't giving plots of land away for free. I entered into an agreement with the bank that holds my mortgage, and I will own my home outright very soon.
@rasseng (part 2) The GI Bill was important. Equally important in 1945-1960s US, however, in terms of wealth, was peoples' ability to secure jobs that allowed them to pay their mortgages and provide for their families. Those who bought houses that increased in value - eg in non-redlined areas - passed this wealth to their children and grandchildren. And again, we're not talking about $, we're talking about educational opportunities, business networks etc. The past matters in this discussion.
@OccupyIdeas The G.I. Bill has nothing to do with anything! People have been buying homes before and after the G.I. Bill existed. The G.I. Bill was a veterans benefit program, and helped vets go to school, and buy homes. Veterans still get benefits such as this, but it is not something that most have. The worth of a home and the housing market do not have anything to do with the G.I. Bill.
@OccupyIdeas If a veteran doesn't have a job that will pay the monthly mortgage then they still shouldn't buy a house, even with the benefits of the G.I. Bill. THe G.I. Bill doesn't guarantee the worth of the home, or the stability of the housing market, or the US economy. If someone bought a home under the G.I. Bill and lived in it until the loan was paid off then died, yes their children would benefit from the home, either by selling it , or living in it.
@OccupyIdeas To bad that has nothing to do with the world today. My grandparents, parents, & myself have bought homes. This had nothing to do with the G.I. Bill, & most Americans don't either! If someone bought a home with their veteran benefits (which consist of low interest loans & maybe nothing down) & the housing market faltered a year later they would be in the same boat as everyone else, but as long as they live there & make the payments, it doesn't matter.
@rasseng 1) This is factually incorrect. The GI Bill affected 8 out of 10 men born in the 1920s. And not counting the GI-related benefits that put vets in the eco. position to buy their homes, VA mortgages accounted DIRECTLY for 40% of ALL postwar mortgages. The bill, along with a vastly diff taxing regime, new technologies, and stronger unionized work force, created our middle class - but, as we said, all of these variables were asymmetrically realized.
@rasseng (2) So you reject the apolitical, commonly-accepted notion of intergenerational wealth? No, right? Then don't continue to discount the role of the past here. Stratification economics (SE) plays an important role in determining which populations can buy homes, and the GI Bill was fundamental to SE. We're agreed: if you cannot afford a house, you should not buy one. However, these protests are about macrostructural issues, and it's incumbant upon us to understand that.
@OccupyIdeas Most men born in the twenties and who served in WWII are all but gone. The benefits and effects of the G.I. Bill from that time is minimal at best, and really has no relation to the situation effecting home owners today. Homes back after WWII were usually valued at 5 to 10k, nothing like today. If your parents or grandparents bought a home on the G.I. Bill, that is great! If they paid it in full and then handed it down, even better.
@OccuptIdeas Most homes that are left to family members are sold. Most homes bought by those using the G.I. Bill, have been most likely sold many times over, and therefore the G.I. Bill has nothing to do with the housing market today. Now current veterans do get benefits to buy a home, such as low loan rates, andno money down, etc. But if a vet buys a home he or she really can't afford, those benefits end up being null and void. You need to get real!
@rasseng 1) True 2) False 3) True - and the sellers profitted from those sales. 4) False 5) Agreed 6) We are real, and knowledgeable, but apparently we need to find a new way of teaching this material, because you're not understanding. Not your fault. Ours. Put it this way, the fact that the Civil War happened more than a century ago does not mean that it does not shape our present society socially and economically. It's the same with the GI BIll/Post-War economic decisions/redlining.
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TAKE YOUR HOMES BACK!!!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!! NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE!!!!! SO MUCH LOVE AND SUPPORT FROM CHILE!!!!! WE STAND WITH YOU!
@lucidstargirl , when BORROWING someone else's money to buy a big home, you are endangering all around you. you dont "own" the house...you are merely given permission by the lender to live in the home while you keep paying...you know...like rent to buy. Give it up ... its not your home...it belongs to the one who Payed up front for it...(the bank/lender).
Gonna be funny when the bank who stole 8trillion in tax payers get the police to do their dirty work even tho every foreclosed house in America has been payed for 2x over by the bail outs...
CAPITALISM creates ELITE CRIMINALS. BANKERS. DRUG LORDS. INEQUALITY. INSECURITY. GREED. RUTHLESS COMMUNISM. NWO. NAZI. TERRORISM. LAZY PEOPLE. REBEL POLITICIAN. ANARCHY. worst is WAR etc.. etc..
CAPITALISM was designed only for CORRUPT OPPORTUNISTIC MANIPULATIVE LAZY POLITICIAN. BANKERS. LAWYERS. DRUG LORDS. JUDGES. CRIMINALS. DICTATORS. RULERS. KING. SULTANATE. EMPEROR etc. etc..
HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
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djflargo 1 week ago
See the NY Post story "How 'Occupy' went wrong" 2.19.12 to get the rest of the story.
This is all a lie.
acatnthehat 1 week ago
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I so happy to see the black community embrace and reinforced the movement!!
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cheechanchux 2 months ago
No offense, but I'd imagine the "shout something, audience repeats" thing would get really annoying after a while. One would think.
jaimegriffin 2 months ago
a home is a home not an investment to profit from
globalloon 2 months ago
Foreclosure on a home should be ILLEGAL!
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year1966 2 months ago
I applaud this organization! how much longer will we let them blled our people dry? Banks are scams. Stand up and take back america!!!!
hairtogovideos 2 months ago
Squatters is what they are!
nedfan1 2 months ago
These apartments B really nice give dem to us for free den! These people make me sick they feel they are owed free apartments.
nedfan1 2 months ago
You fucking bums better being paying the bills for the house, if you are stealing it back!
nedfan1 2 months ago
bunch of liberals. it honestly isn't the banks problem. I personally will never live on a mortgage I will pay rent to someone. If you can't afford your bills its your fault. not the banks/governments... If you can't pay the bills move somewhere that fits your income. this country is based on independence and surviving on your own. If you dont survive in this country and dont have a place to live its your fault. end of story. though I do agree the banks are greedy but still, not their fault.
BuddyxEric 2 months ago
cheechanchux 2 months ago
@cheechanchux Mark my words unless you buy gold you will be wishing you did now then later.Good luck to you.
Blankname101 2 months ago
<3<3<3 this is what beauty looks like <3<3<3
stephenmumbles 2 months ago
communism...
eksistentialisti 2 months ago
Now that's real revolution! I just hope if the cops come to try and remove them, that the community will put up a fight!
lapunknoir 2 months ago
Vote Ron Paul if you want real change in this country. RON PAUL !!! Real Hope
08996688 2 months ago
so occupying foreclosed houses is illegal right?
Zuroq 2 months ago
@Zuroq Yes. Of course, as far as we understand it, it is also illegal for banks to foreclose on homes for which they cannot provide proof of ownership, and they have done this by the tens of thousands.
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@OccupyIdeas so two wrongs make a right? that's what the occupy is about?
Zuroq 2 months ago
@Zuroq What was the first wrong?
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@Zuroq please, do get back to us on that. What was the first wrong?
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
SLUMSON GOT THAT TRUTH FOR ALL MY PEOPLE... HOLLA.
SLUMDOOLA 2 months ago
It was a great moment in history.
JavierSoriano1 2 months ago
A lot of those people used to live in those apartments and pay they're rent to the owners. When the economy collapsed the rent increased so dramatically no one in the community could afford to live there. These people are breaking in because they have no were els to go. You tell them to get a job? What job? You think that a Mc Donald's salary is going cover that $2000 a month apartment? And thats not for a nice place, thats for a moldy 1 bedroom basement infested with rats and cockroaches.
frodope 2 months ago
You just can't pick an empty house and decide you want to live in it. That is called stealing.
randoley 2 months ago
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WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS CORRUPT SYSTEM.IT IS GREAT FOR FEW BUT BAD FOR MOST OF US. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS OUT THERE BUT WE HAVE TO BRING THEM OURSELVES. BECAUSE THOSE IN POWER DON'T WANT TO. -A SOLUTION IS A RESOURCE-BASED ECONOMY,LEARN ABOUT IT.-SPREAD THE WORD.
mrchibitix59 2 months ago
Point of Information: 702 is not actually owned by a bank. It is currently in the process of foreclosure, but the deed is still help by an (as yet anonymous) individual. This man has been hunted down by the NYPD, and they are currently trying to get him to say that he is not ok with the occupation of his home, so they can get in there can crack heads.
nikiparrox 2 months ago
@nikiparrox then let the man who was losing the home occupy it.
ilovety65 2 months ago
@ilovety65 The man abandoned it three years ago.
nikiparrox 2 months ago
@nikiparrox oh,ok.I just saw another vid on this,looks like they're trying to help the homeowners work out reasonable rates and keep their homes,which is a great thing.hope they can afford their property tax.ny is expensive.
ilovety65 2 months ago
We are all slaves to the Central Banks the government and the corporations. Down with the Federal Reserve!!!!!!!!
1lady4freedom 2 months ago
Our federal, state and local govt are the Traitors! These govts are feeding us, the people, to the sharks! I don't necessarily agree of Occupying Foreclosed Homes BUT what should have been done is...The Banks with the pressure from our Government SHOULD REWRITE ALL CURRENT MORTGAGES TO IT'S CURRENT MARKET VALUE to make them affordable at this Current Economic Conditions! Since they, the banks and govt, are not stepping up to the needs of the people THEN WE, THE PEOPLE, TAKE NECESSARY ACTIONS!
Jackiew4191 2 months ago
incredibly moving story, beautifully told.........and beautifully shot. There has to be a way to bring together all this empty housing and all the people who need homes. OWS is standing now for families and communities....brilliant!
swansquarter 2 months ago
Also, buy some paint. Get someone to donate paint. Clean up. Take care fo your new home and god bless you.
Retloth 2 months ago
That's right, OCCUPY YOUR HOMES! If the cops show up....everyone SURROUND THE HOUSE!
UNITE PEOPLE!
UNITE!
Retloth 2 months ago
Mayor Bloomberg, here's my advice: shut your eyes real tight, plug up yr ears and wish really, really hard and it will ALLLL GO AWAY. It will get cold and wintry and they'll ALLLL GO AWAY. Like magic. Yeah, f'real.
OCCUPY EVERYWHERE.
briandonohue100 2 months ago
AUPACMET shows solidarity with the peoples and communities and their just struggle against the financial system.
alfredohenao 2 months ago
This is NOT "democracy"! This is anarchy! I have never seen a worse rationalization for stealing private property. You people elected leaders who sold you on the idea of sub prime mortgages to make "affordable housing". Go get those leaders to bail you out and make your house payments! I find this kind of rationalized theft to be disgusting, revolting, and scary. I hope your movement finds some way to move itself into oblivion, because no intelligent person can endorse this theft.
billcarrothers 2 months ago
@billcarrothers , when BORROWING someone else's money to buy a big home, you are endangering all around you. you dont "own" the house...you are merely given permission by the lender to live in the home while you keep paying...you know...like rent to buy. Give it up ... its not your home...it belongs to the one who Payed up front for it...(the bank/lender).
captainhurt 2 months ago
@billcarrothers Dubbing this "stealing" fails to address the complexities involved in this issue. It would be more useful to regard these as acts of civil disobedience similar to the occupation of Alcatraz in '71, or the blocking of IHotel evictions in '77. Those earlier actions were definitely illegal as well, but when people feel they have been wronged, and when their protestations are not heard, they take action.
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
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rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng TELL IT TO THE BANKS TRAITOR!!!
ChrisnStarry 2 months ago
@ChrisnStarry Taitor? I'm telling you, idiot! You, & those that don't want to live up to their legal agreements are traitors! When you buy a home, you sign a contract to make payments, until paid in full! Not screw the bank. There are no "Predatory Lenders"! People that default, know they can't afford them, so shouldn't enter into the commit! They knew they were going to eventually falter! Take responsibility, and stop blaming everyone else, Schmuck!
rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng The Banks are the traitors. The Central Bank and Federal Reserve is the problem. Mortgages R a sham. ppl should own their land & property. not the Banks. My parents used to be able to own there land without a mortgage. The sell your mortgage on the open market several times and make millions on your tiny home. They are devaluing the dollar to make us all more enslaved to them. The system must go. Freedom is the key. U never own your property bc pay taxes which are a lien on ur property
1lady4freedom 2 months ago
@1lady4freedom Another ignorant young idiot! Unless you are from an extremely wealthy family, your parents had a mortgage just like everybody else for over the past 100+ years. I am much older than you are, and my parents own their home now, but had a mortgage at one time. Yes you pay taxes, everybody does, so that is a mute point. You are living in an imaginary and unrealistic dream world.
rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng U must be joking. U are livin in the dream world until you lose you job.MY parents "owned" their home but the government can take it anytime & not just for not paying your taxes bc of hardship but repossess under eminent domain. btw born in 1964 do the math. Th reasn our parents could afford a home & many bought w/o mortgages is the same reasn they could pay for their own college w/o loans. The price of inflation, the central banks & devaluing of the dollar is the main problem
1lady4freedom 2 months ago
@rasseng Even if you pay you DO NOT own the property!!! Look on your paper work!!! you are listed as a TENET. All who thumbed this ignorant comment up, need to learn about the 1933 BANKRUPTCY!!! YOU OWN NOTHING!!!
ChrisnStarry 2 months ago
@ChrisnStarry OK, first the term is "tenant" moron! Secondly, if you pay your mortgage for the length of the loan, at the end you receive the deed and the property is yours, you friggin' imbecile! Kind of like my grandparents, and parents have done! Don't be claiming others as ignorant, when you are a total and absolute idiot!
rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng the property is never urs it is the Banks and the Gov you will always owe taxes
1lady4freedom 2 months ago
@1lady4freedom In another 15 years, my home will be all mine! I took out a loan & bought it. Now I must pay it back, & interest to the bank for loaning me the money. Of course many wealthy could buy their homes outright, but the majority of us don't have the lump sum to do so. Our taxes are paid to support the govt. and agencies that help us live our lives, such as; schools, law enforcement, fire fighters, and other services, that you think are there for you by magic.
rasseng 2 months ago 2
@rasseng no I do not think they are there by magic but the "income" tax and property taxes are crap. No property tax in DE and they seem to fund everything just fine. The income tax does not go toward all that it all goes to interest on the Debt we have for the on going wars.
1lady4freedom 2 months ago
@rasseng did your parents or grandparents benefit from the GI bill? Where did they buy?
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@OccupyIdeas What does the G.I. Bill have to do with anything being discussed? My parents and grandparents originally bought homes in New york, then in California years later. All bought with loans and paid back in full, the way hard working, law abiding, responsible people do it!
rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng What does the GI bill have to do with home buying? Really?
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@OccupyIdeas Yes really! I bought my home 20 years ago, and there was no G.I. Bill then. Most people buy their homes without any benefit of a G.I.Bill. The G.I. Bill has nothing to do with anything currently occurring in the US or the world.
rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng Our question was, did your parents or grandparents receive the GI Bill, or did other people in their neighborhood? We'll explain why the GI bill is important in this discussion, but we think you may already know why.
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@rasseng "Most people buy their...benefit of the GI Bill." This is not true. If your family did then they are in the minority. The GI bill played a fundamental role in our home ownership society, and those who bought homes with (or lived in areas where homes increased in value because of) the GI Bill passed their wealth (not money, wealth) on to the next two generations. Those who were redlined out of these opportunities, Af. Ams., for example, were precluded from passing this wealth on.
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@rasseng does the present economic climate resemble the one in which your grandparents and parents purchased their homes?
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@OccupyIdeas No it does not. It also doesn't resemble the climate when I purchased my home either, or even five years ago! People, unless extremely wealthy buy their homes by getting a loan from a bank, and without a G.I. Bill! This isn't 1889, and the govt. isn't giving plots of land away for free. I entered into an agreement with the bank that holds my mortgage, and I will own my home outright very soon.
rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng (part 2) The GI Bill was important. Equally important in 1945-1960s US, however, in terms of wealth, was peoples' ability to secure jobs that allowed them to pay their mortgages and provide for their families. Those who bought houses that increased in value - eg in non-redlined areas - passed this wealth to their children and grandchildren. And again, we're not talking about $, we're talking about educational opportunities, business networks etc. The past matters in this discussion.
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@OccupyIdeas The G.I. Bill has nothing to do with anything! People have been buying homes before and after the G.I. Bill existed. The G.I. Bill was a veterans benefit program, and helped vets go to school, and buy homes. Veterans still get benefits such as this, but it is not something that most have. The worth of a home and the housing market do not have anything to do with the G.I. Bill.
rasseng 2 months ago
@OccupyIdeas If a veteran doesn't have a job that will pay the monthly mortgage then they still shouldn't buy a house, even with the benefits of the G.I. Bill. THe G.I. Bill doesn't guarantee the worth of the home, or the stability of the housing market, or the US economy. If someone bought a home under the G.I. Bill and lived in it until the loan was paid off then died, yes their children would benefit from the home, either by selling it , or living in it.
rasseng 2 months ago
@OccupyIdeas To bad that has nothing to do with the world today. My grandparents, parents, & myself have bought homes. This had nothing to do with the G.I. Bill, & most Americans don't either! If someone bought a home with their veteran benefits (which consist of low interest loans & maybe nothing down) & the housing market faltered a year later they would be in the same boat as everyone else, but as long as they live there & make the payments, it doesn't matter.
rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng 1) This is factually incorrect. The GI Bill affected 8 out of 10 men born in the 1920s. And not counting the GI-related benefits that put vets in the eco. position to buy their homes, VA mortgages accounted DIRECTLY for 40% of ALL postwar mortgages. The bill, along with a vastly diff taxing regime, new technologies, and stronger unionized work force, created our middle class - but, as we said, all of these variables were asymmetrically realized.
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@rasseng (2) So you reject the apolitical, commonly-accepted notion of intergenerational wealth? No, right? Then don't continue to discount the role of the past here. Stratification economics (SE) plays an important role in determining which populations can buy homes, and the GI Bill was fundamental to SE. We're agreed: if you cannot afford a house, you should not buy one. However, these protests are about macrostructural issues, and it's incumbant upon us to understand that.
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@OccupyIdeas Most men born in the twenties and who served in WWII are all but gone. The benefits and effects of the G.I. Bill from that time is minimal at best, and really has no relation to the situation effecting home owners today. Homes back after WWII were usually valued at 5 to 10k, nothing like today. If your parents or grandparents bought a home on the G.I. Bill, that is great! If they paid it in full and then handed it down, even better.
rasseng 2 months ago
@OccuptIdeas Most homes that are left to family members are sold. Most homes bought by those using the G.I. Bill, have been most likely sold many times over, and therefore the G.I. Bill has nothing to do with the housing market today. Now current veterans do get benefits to buy a home, such as low loan rates, andno money down, etc. But if a vet buys a home he or she really can't afford, those benefits end up being null and void. You need to get real!
rasseng 2 months ago
@rasseng 1) True 2) False 3) True - and the sellers profitted from those sales. 4) False 5) Agreed 6) We are real, and knowledgeable, but apparently we need to find a new way of teaching this material, because you're not understanding. Not your fault. Ours. Put it this way, the fact that the Civil War happened more than a century ago does not mean that it does not shape our present society socially and economically. It's the same with the GI BIll/Post-War economic decisions/redlining.
OccupyIdeas 2 months ago
@rasseng there still are about 25% of the the guys from WWII alive that were survivors from D-Day alone, do you mean WWI, those guys are all dead.
Evenwas616 2 months ago
@rasseng shit, shit ignore what i just said, i didn't see you said most, ignore that.
Evenwas616 2 months ago
Much Love & Respect.
yossarian1633 2 months ago 6
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kopellhinex 2 months ago
no one can afford rent in new york, im sure everyone is pretty much considered homeless.
iCandyBunny 2 months ago
so your squatting in a home owned by someone else? thats illegal, nice job retards.
Cybix 2 months ago
this is beautiful.
shwepp 2 months ago
Zionist Media lies! Get Aipac out of the worlds governments! The Unions are behind the Protesters! Fuck the Lying Zionist Media! Zionist Hollywood, and the Protocols of the learned elders of Zion! Humanity will Expose all the Media and Corporate lies including Free Hydrogen Energy! So keep lying and protecting your control over the Slaves of the world by your lies about free energy and the coal industry! Keep protecting your fluoride mercury vaccination corporations and georgia guide ston
Hydrogenagent 2 months ago
Good video, fast too!
jenbee60 2 months ago
I was glad to be there. AWESOME VIDEO!!
yahshay 2 months ago
That's amazing, good job guys.
Sylinic 2 months ago
I'm glad to see you all working together and in a rational manner. You all are beyond, awesome.
PitBullsBiteHard 2 months ago
TAKE YOUR HOMES BACK!!!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!! NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE!!!!! SO MUCH LOVE AND SUPPORT FROM CHILE!!!!! WE STAND WITH YOU!
lucidstargirl 2 months ago 45
nwo+freemason+illuminati+scientology+secretsociety+religion+ bohemiangrove+occult+government+constitution+zionist+slavery +elitecriminals+war+etc = CAPITALIST REALM LANDLORD GRABBER PIG ROYAL LAZY FAMILY.
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kopellhinex 2 months ago
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@lucidstargirl , when BORROWING someone else's money to buy a big home, you are endangering all around you. you dont "own" the house...you are merely given permission by the lender to live in the home while you keep paying...you know...like rent to buy. Give it up ... its not your home...it belongs to the one who Payed up front for it...(the bank/lender).
captainhurt 2 months ago
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bankers+lawyers+police+judge+politicians+criminals+etc = DIRTY CAPITALIST SCUM PIGS.
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BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD..!!!
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SAVE the ANIMALS & NATURE. END THE DEBT.
kopellhinex 2 months ago
@lucidstargirl there is only 1% of the 99%, there isn't that many people, lol.
Evenwas616 2 months ago
Well done. Thanks you.
n9productions 2 months ago 2
the banks got a bail out and we got foreclosed on ! this suxs !
xxcrossed 2 months ago
Gonna be funny when the bank who stole 8trillion in tax payers get the police to do their dirty work even tho every foreclosed house in America has been payed for 2x over by the bail outs...
megamogx 2 months ago 23
@megamogx
They got paid 2x's over? Try 3-4 times over. One big Ponzi scheme
dancat4 2 months ago
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HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
kopellhinex 2 months ago