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  • What about f orbitals? :o

  • WHAT'S THE SONG AT 1:03!!!?

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  • what is the name of the hula hoop music?

  • "so my advice to the marketing department of some great corporation who wants to show you how cutting edge they are is that instead of using holahop atoms they should include balloon animals in their corporate logos!" - Well said and I totally agree.

  • Pure win

  • So if an electron is negatively charged and a proton positive, why are the electrons buzzing around the nucleus in a cloud? Why aren't they attached to the protons? Are these positive and negative charges analogous to two sides of a magnet?

  • @buttwang

    Because of neutrons

  • @buttwang That's the strong nuclear force and the weak nuclear force. The reason why atom nuclei don't explode because of the repulsion made by the protons.

  • @buttwang Part of it is that the electrons are so fast that they never fall into the nucleus (just like satellites v=d57C2drB_wc).

  • Wouldn't the hoola hoop atom be more of what an atom really IS though. It isn't like the electron is in more than one place. It is just that we cannot calculate/determine exactly where it is.

    It does give the misconception that it orbits like planets do though...

  • @TheCaphits actually the electron is in more than one place

  • @bohmej

    Quantum superposition? (I don't know much about physics, hence the question mark)

  • atoms may not look like that anymore but the hula hoop model is what people would immediately connect with atoms. just imagine seeing a website for science whose logo looks like the balloons he just showed us. it would make it look like a website for clowns

  • The Bohr-Summerfeld Atom technically represents one possible state of the orbital clouds, no?

    I mean, the s-orbital is a sphere and it can take 2 electrons. So technically those two dots on the two hoolahoops can still be the electrons and the hoops themselves represent a one in a quadrillion chance of a path it has taken in the last few pictoseconds.

    At least if we keep in mind that it is only one state of the probability solution the orbitals predict.

  • The classical model is so much easier to explain though. I like the way it can lead to further discussion and how the person interested should do a physics degree.

  • very true... lol

    

  • the cameraman gave me a bloody headache with his zooming

  • Why no balloon shape for the f orbital? That would have been really impressive...

  • HEY DERRICK.

    THIS IS SIMON. WE WATCHED THIS IN CLASS. :D

  • i eat atoms for breakfast!..o wait :/

  • this reminds me of Jimmy Neutron lol

  • We only draw it like that because it is easier

  • @rrrwarrior44 As long as you remember that it's like drawing a circle with a line and 2 dots in it (aka happy face) and saying that it's a portrait of your girlfriend; the easy way...

  • Man, your channel is amazing!

  • Can anyone tell me the song that starts at 1:13 or at least the genre of the song?

  • so draw it then! yeah you cant, can you, too hard basket aye, 1920's for LIFE

  • the chick is cute

  • learn to focus!!!

  • Yes, but it seems harder and more confusing to attempt to draw a cloud (or balloon animal) on a chalkboard than the nice little orbits.

  • I like more the hula hoop atom

  • grow bigger veritasium GROW

  • with so many atoms in the universe, how can anyone doubt the existence of GOD?

  • 1:22 boobies!

  • @philsense nucleus nipple

  • 11 people couldnt handle the truth

  • Furthermore, the part where he says that electrons cannot exist here is somewhat wrong. The probability of existing at the place he said it wouldn't is specifically non-zero, but very close to it. The cloud we draw represents a 95% chance of finding an electron there. The other 5% exists outside that cloud, and extends to infinity.

  • That's all true but schools didn't tell me this untill I got into College.

  • why is there a nipple on the page at 1:25?

  • what is the music with the candlestick telephone?

  • he looked a lot with the sham wow guy

  • I remember learning this in Chemistry 11.

  • Great point but that average person is not that smart and the logo has become sort of a past time to the original fundamentals of science not the actual meaning behind it

  • Loved his rant. And your rocking the hula hoop was a special add-on.

  • Is he rocking Movember?

  • The camera focus is really distracting.

  • This man is mad!!!

  • What about f-orbitals? I know that their "shells" can hold up to 50 electrons and that their structure, or am I wrong? What are they shaped like! Excuse me if I'm wrong, I just learnt this from AS Chemistry. :)

  • @1veritasium Thanks, funny and I've learned something. Could you maybe explain Planck's constant now? Because I don't get that I was still stuck with the hula-model.

  • whats the music in the background?

  • hula!!!!

  • hmm your atom looks like boob

  • most disturbing slow motion ending ever? I think so :)

  • balloons will make much better logos

  • Huh. I never learnt atoms as hula hoops... guess my teachers rocked?

  • @area51l You probably learned something similar. Anyway I wouldn't say they rock. Learning about the model gradually makes it easier to grasp for many.

  • Dude you have some serious jugular venous pressure going on there. Calm down or you're gonna blow!

  • Jimmy neutron is a lie...

    So is Big Bang Theory intermissions...

    So are......

  • CYMATICS FTW!!!

  • So... the things I've learnt are:

    1.Some electron orbitals look like calamari

    2.That guy is terrible at hula hooping

  • 1:21 Yeah boobies!

    1:24 "We can chop it up, into a whole bunch of pieces"

    And I was like 0-;

  • BALLOONS! GENIUS!

  • JIMMY NEUTRON LIED TO MEEEEE

  • Khan Academy thought me :D

  • learned something new!!

  • Arturo trejo uses this song jajajaja

  • Nice music

  • you know what ssad we still learn the hula hoop diagram as being the "latest diagram" in school (well in Canada anyways)

  • I just learned all about this kinda stuff about a month ago in grade 11 chemistry :p

  • Dz^2 orbitals can go to hell. ;(

  • what sort of sorcery is this?

  • Your a wizard harry

  • the conclusion was kind of stupid. he still has a point, it's stupid to keep drawing the atom as we did 90 years ago

  • we actually learned this is chemistry class this year

  • I knew this kinda, but I still think the ancient atom depiction logo looks cool

  • lol i found this very interesting :)

  • like a BAWS

  • Why did i subscribe to your channel ?? damn i was high

  • Nobody watches this videos since they got more anoying showing the ignorance of fiew people in australia...

  • yah they do

  • Wait, I thought electrons could only be on a fixed distance from the nucleus, hence the quantic leaps between the different levels?

    How could their be a ''cloud'' of electrons then?

  • @GoliathGunner Think of the energy levels like Russian dolls (only spherical) and the electrons can move anywhere in that level, so there are several clouds layered representing the energy levels

  • @GoliathGunner no the cloud means how likely you are going to find a electron the thicker the cloud the more chance you are to find a electron

  • @GoliathGunner Leaps are a result of electrons 'jumping' from a ground state(lower orbital) to a higher orbital, which is what he showed when he broke down the electron cloud.

  • @GoliathGunner i think since their super duper fast, it would "look like" a cloud. :)

  • @GoliathGunner The cloud of electrons IS the fixed distance. on the diagrams, for easier understanding, we have them drawn on a single dimension orbits, where as in quantum reality, they could be in any point in that cloud in any given time.

    and I say this on the basis of absolutely nothing, more of a logical conclusion than a scientific one. :/

  • @GoliathGunner - each electron has a quantized energy when jumping levels that corresponds with a specific wavelength. it's with these wavelengths we can determine the probability of an electron's distance from the nucleus. it's within that distance from the nucleus it can reside, in the 'cloud', or area. different energy levels have different clouds. i encourage you to watch this playlist: user/Best0fScience#p/c/3616E1D­708E27C42/0/B7pACq_xWyw

  • @GoliathGunner its really a cloud of "probability" of finding the electrons, so they can reside in the cloud, but not between clouds.

  • @GoliathGunner lol they r a fixed distance from the nucleus which is the energy level, so if ur a fixed distance u can still move around with that radius to make sphere

  • @GoliathGunner They are just models, or theories. In 15 years there is gonna be a new different model, science is always advancing and making old models obsolete.

  • @GoliathGunner it's a model based on a probability distribution (statistics). There is no way to know the position of an electron, so we view it based on it's probability density (the probability of it being in a specific area of the orbiting region), that's as accurate as we can go. Science uses models "based" on reality, they are best guess and great explanations for data, but they are not what "really" goes on.

  • @GoliathGunner As @Pyjamas22 said, anyone who studied chemistry in high school would know that. The electrons can be anywhere in the cloud, hence the mentioning of quantum mechanics. Although, they need a certain energy to reach farther points in space. That doesnt mean they have to be at a fixed distance from the nucleus, they just need energy to get further and further away

  • @GoliathGunner i tell you what ! you are wrong ! and he is wrong ! no 1 is right

  • @GoliathGunner you thought wrong :) the electrons can only have a certain energy at any given time not a certain distance from the nucleus, you see the energy of the electron is what the quantic leaps translate and the distance to the nucleus can change because of the interaction with other electrons. for your vision to be correct all electrons would have to be standing still

  • @GoliathGunner Its a probability density. Its where electrons are most likely to be found at any given time. Sixty Symbols is your friend.

  • @GoliathGunner Those fixed distances are the fixed average distances.

  • @GoliathGunner the cloud is where the electrons reside relative to the nucleus. there is no actual cloud its just fuzzy under a microscope and looks like a cloud. it looks that way because the electrons are moving so fast. if you were to cut the cloud in half you should see different levels of the cloud that the electrons are fixed in and they can jump to when energized, each level of the cloud can be thought of as spheres within spheres. it would almost look like the layers of the earth

  • @GoliathGunner What is quantized is the propability distribution. An electron can be anywhere on the cloud, so the cloud is the probability distribution.

  • @GoliathGunner when it gets kicked up a notch it gets moved into a higher cloud that's further from the nucleolus. it doesn't want to be there. it wants to be closer.

  • @GoliathGunner The "cloud" is because we can't really be sure where an electron is at any given time. Think of the Schrodinger's problem. So, instead of just depicting one electron at a given position, scientists present a probability cloud of electrons around the nucleus. The orbitals are still there, it's just that, the atoms can't be pin-pointed. :)

  • @GoliathGunner It's a bit tricky, cause each level has different orbitals. The first level has one orbital s, the second level has orbital 2s and 2p, the third level has orbitals 3s, 3p and 3d, the fourth has orbitals 4s, 4p, 4d and 4f. Every level from the fourth up have orbital s p d and f. The orbital have to be complete before passing to the next one, and all the orbitals on a level have to be complete to pass to the next level.

  • @GoliathGunner there in fixed shells but cloud represents the area that the electrons could posibly be in because they dont follow a specific track around that nucleus and the distancefrom the nucleus can change say if a photon of energy is added then the electron will move up a shell

  • too keen

    

  • i still cant wrap my head around molecular physics, i can read about it all i weant, but its so hard for me to get perspective and understanding on how small things get :/

  • 1:20 do you mean a boob????

  • when I saw a picture of somone filming an electron, it looked like it just had hideously low framerate. Physics is based on that? O.o

  • Anyone whose taken highschool chemistry knows this, the hoolahoop atoms are just a symbol representing the atom, not a literal depiction of one

  • @Pyjamas22 I learned that in middle school chemistry but still, your point is valid.

  • @egganaut I learned most of it in middle school too, just stuff like s, p, d, f orbitals I learned in highschool

  • learned it already at class today im in grade 9

  • @owltalon97 teachers dont teach, liar

  • Just learned about all of this orbitals and such. Why did you leave out the f-orbitals? They're important, too. :(

  • pee pee

  • I kinda knew this

  • I did not know that. Thank you for the update.

  • 4th

    

  •  cooooooollllllll

  • so much zooming..

  • This guy is way too enthusiastic :|

  • zero views?! am i rly first? cool :)

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