Interesting reality that Spanish cultural language of Chavacano is preserved in a very hostile environment in Mindanao! I dont even understand Spanish, when we were ruled by Spain for more than 300 years..
Chavacano: Maga jovenes del presente generacion posible jende mas conoce con el antes alcalde del ciudad, Vitaliano Agan, fuera ya lang si ta descuti na escuela acerca el historia del ciudad donde posible ta menciona con su nombre na clase. A segun con un antes companera na politica del difunto, maga estudiante el numero uno que tiene que rendi gracias con Agan por el maga proyecto que inicia ele durante su termino.
!si! mas o menos... setenta y cinco del por ciento espanol y treinta y cinco del porciento tagalog.. pero no estoy seguro. jajaja :) ?Qué te parece?
filipino ako pero I'm so tanga not knowing all this until a couple of months ago when learning spanish. proud ako na this existed pala sa bansa natin. magagamit ko nalalaman ko when I go to zamboanga ...wow!!!!
In Mexico we love our native languages like Nahuatl, pronounced "Nawa" with a very light or faint touch of the final tl. Our national language though is Spanish as the majority of Mexicans have Spanish blood.
@03Terrestre South-east asia also has a lot of written history about our ancestors, but we dont even take the time to notice that there are a lot of written history, right inside our neighbor's archives. Plus, like I said, what good is a country that has lost it's identity? Might as well shoot yourself in the head or become a vassal, me and a surplus millions of filipino would die before that ever happens.
@jbislove08 Spanish will be a language that will increase with Philippinos because of the exchange in conversation with Hispanics in the U.S. Saludos amigo!
@03Terrestre thats true because my friend that is filipino his grandparents ,uncles,aunts,speak basically spanish, and the chavacono in their daily basis its very cool i bet one day theyl change english for spanish later in the phillipines ;)
@changolini That, in the long term, will hurt our country, and our identity. We should be focusing on preserving our own languages, and teach our own writing systems more.
As for the English-Spanish dispute, well to tell you the truth, I honestly don't give a damn about neither.
@03Terrestre Wishful thinking at best... Lol, high priority should be given to preserving your own culture. It's growing, so what?(which tbh, looking from an impartial viewpoint, there's truly nothing special about the growth, no "boom", it's use is growing, just like any other highly used language that's out there... -_-)
You really should start looking at it from an impartial viewpoint, just the fact you always bring this "growth" up to me even though I didn't ask is a little odd...
@ThtOnePinoy its ok i know how u feel and every other filipino as well in my country mexico we are tryn to do they same with our indiginous languages very hard , the mexican and filipino goverment dont give a shit about their native languages i know this because my filipino friends tell me that all the time and i tell them the same . and i hate how when we are in america our own people act like they forgot were they come from and their customs . in other words white american washed
@03Terrestre I don't reject hispanic filipinos at all, what I reject is the colonial mentality. Lol, an asian philippines will always be better than a hispanic one. The other asians who criticized the Philippines for leaning towards latin more than asian are correct, and you know what? They actually pay attention to our history too, like who would've known the Koreans knew about Lapu-Lapu? They made a statue out of him in honor of our help in their korean war
@03Terrestre as for Japan, several Japanese researchers interest in our langauge and writing system, like Hiroaki Kitano are interested in preserving languages that are being endangered like Kapampangan, and many of their researchers have also found ancient pottery sold to ancient Japan during the 16th century and even before that was written in kulitan, one of our ancestors writing systems. And China? They have a lot of written history about our ancestors.
@changolini Agreed!!! Its funny how we face a common problem even concerning our languages. It's even more sad to me is that a lot of our languages don't come of from indigenous, like my moms dialect, her ancestors were known back then as rulers of kingdoms. Such a good history we had, and we all throw it away... And constantly reject. And sorry for my ignorance, I know that there are different mexican native languages, I always hear of Nahuatl though, thanks for telling me them.
@jbislove08 Why should we use tsabakano as a national language? That's just stupid... Why not just drop the national language system completely, and instead make recognised languages.
I agree that Tagalog being the national language isn't that great, but this isn't really a good alternative... Infact, I think we'll be seeing a similar problem if we do this, in that tsabakano's reputation will get criticized, just like tagalogs.
@ThtOnePinoy Asians have their pull on some Phillippinos and at the same time Hispanics have their gravitational bond to other Philippinos. It is that simple, only time will tell who's grows more in importance. But I do know that Hispanics being 20% of the U.S. population and the Philippinos living amongst Hispanics in the U.S. shows how that pull ultimatley will lean. And it does look like a Hispanic Filipinas!
@03Terrestre If you actually payed close attention, you will notice in spite of this, there are many filipino who don't feel this same way as you do. Infact, our last Prime minister went so far as to request to change the name of the Philippines. Regardless, just, hell no... I will die before my country becomes like that, identity-less people... In reality, it will do no good, having an actual identity > having a hispanic fetish.
@ThtOnePinoy I recocnize many Philippinos not identifying with Hispanics, obviously them being the Chinese or Malay or what have you, but Philippinos with Hispanic mix in them have all the right to continue in touch with their Hispanic bretheren across the Pacific. To that part of the population we Hispanics welcome them to participate in the Hispanic world and build a strong International identity. You don't have to die, just recocnize and coexist, they are not all pure Malay or Chinese.
@03Terrestre Just as not all of us are hispanic, your very contradicting to what your last comment said. Impartialness does wonders, learn from it... And anyways, those roots make up a lot of Luzon, but mostly it is Malay, Indian, southern Chinese, and Taiwanese aboringes. And I wasn't just referring to China, I was referring to Japan, and south-east Asia, unless you are the typical stereotyper who thinks whenever someone is talking about asia that they are talking about China.
@03Terrestre I refer to Asia(specifically east asia)not just China, as they make up the bulk of our ancestral roots. You have a fetish going on though, it is obvious in your comments, such as for example, whenever I am in this topic you always bring up the "growth of spanish" that in reality it's nothing to be surprised about... Aka hyperboling-much, and you try to sound like having equal perspectives, but truly you wouldn't mind having our native culture gone, and everything replaced.
@03Terrestre They have a right, just like everyone else, but ultimately filipino is not hispanic, they just have history with hispanics. When you are referring to the filipino people, you are referring to the natives, not the mixed hispanic. I don't know whether Mexicans are truly majority mixed with spanish blood from what you said, but if that's true well then your mistake is probably trying to apply that to us, when in reality it is the exact opposite, despite our colonization being longer.
@03Terrestre Of course there are mixes, and hispanic-filipino mixes are still filipino, but I refer to the blood and the identity, obviously the people before Spain came were not magically hispanics.
@ThtOnePinoy It's like this; In your attempt to emphasize that the Philippines is Asian, you try to eraticate the Hispanic Philippinos attempt at natural cultural exchanges with their fellow Hispanics. You cannot deny Philippinos their freedom to choose who they relate to. You relate to Chinese, and that is your right. but don't deny that same freedom to Hispanic Philippinos.
@03Terrestre It isn't anything like that, while I do emphasize our true roots, I still see halfs like this, for example, if I was like, half russian, I would have pride in that as well, or if I was half-norwegian, same thing, that's how I see it, there's nothing wrong with liking your other half, but you cannot apply that to your people, like for example, if you were half russian, and half japanese, you cannot apply that as if it were your people that were half-russian and half japanese.
@03Terrestre asian in filipino however, is a common ancestry, unless if you were aeta, then you share this common ancestry, you think I am not giving equal rights, but in reality I'm shaming the people who aren't noticing their true roots, or who wish to hide it. And fyi, I'm not just emphasizing the chinese part, it is only one of the several mixes, like I said, taiwanese aboringes, southern chinese, malaysian, indian, or other s.e. or east asian.
@ThtOnePinoy I understand, If there is a Philippino Hispanic and he bonds to the Hispanic culture, it does not mean his particular culture is the majority. It just means he and the smaller populations of Philippinos are. Hispanic Philippinos recognize they are not the majority. But the Chinese Phillipinos for example, have to recocnize the overwhelming importance and contributions that Hispanic Philippinos have made to the overall country of the Philippines.
@03Terrestre Um, yeah... If you take a look at the history, most of their "contributions" were actually replacing an existing culture, that is not enriching. Infact, the only enriching I can actually think of is catholicism, however there was the arrival of the portuguese and the french. Also, many of our towns names are not the actual names, they are just a fail interpretation of the spaniards, for example, cavite is really kawit, or tangway, siquijor is really kihod.
@03Terrestre Ah there was also the unifying of the whole archipelago, however it was done improperly, when your unified your supposed to like each other, unfortunately this is not the case. Regardless, they did not contribute as much as they interrupted our own progress, for example, there was already silversmiths in 16th century philippines making gun-powder related arsenal. Our rice terraces were definitely advanced as well, and who could forget our martial arts? Only small examples still.
@03Terrestre When you get colonized, people will think as if you were a primitive monkey people before, wearing nothing but the loincloth you had, this was the exact opposite of our ancestors, but not much people know of this. It's an ever-lasting trend where the much more knowledgeable filipino know about this, while the others choose to ignore, there is no incentive anymore, only ignorance.
@ThtOnePinoy You wrote; reffering to Mexicans, "wearing nothing but loincloths you had, this was the exact opposite of our ancesters" there you were reffering to your people. And that is when I made a point of view comment, simple, no foul language, then you went berzerk!
@03Terrestre "When you get colonized, people will think as if you were a primitive monkey people before, wearing nothing but the loincloth you had, this was the exact opposite of our ancestors, but not much people know of this" This is the whole first half, I was not referring to mexicans, I was referring to what most people think of what the people would've been had they not been colonized, you just misunderstood what I said.
@03Terrestre (continued) and also, cmon the only things I ever said was hell no, and damn, lol I'm just expressing how much I think strongly of this. Nontheless, they aren't even directed towards you!
@03Terrestre I only called you a dipshit after you made such an ignorant comment "Are you kidding? Hhahaha! The Aztecs were more advanced than any civilizations in what is now known as the Philippines. Loin cloth or not, and loin cloths were not the only clothing worn. Hispanic Philippinos have made a tremendous mark on their country and possibly the biggest." You know nothing of my ancestors... Don't make such naive comments like that.
@03Terrestre no vale la pena dialogar con ThtOnePinoy, cuando uno no esta deacuerdo con el o no tiene argumentos te empieza a insultar... en otro video llamado "Spanish language in the Philippines" empezo a llamarnos estupido cuando dijimos una verdad como una casa, que el español o castellano es el lenguage original de Filipinas, cosa que es cierta, asi lo dice la primera constitucion filipina y asi fue durante toda la colonia, donde se fue formando una nacion que hoy se conoce como Filipinas.
@IgnacioCalvo87 De acuerdo contigo, pero hay vezes es necesario dialogár con gente como el (o changitos como el, cuando se comporta como uno) para que no desparramen sus mentiras. Le gusta contar sus datos pero torciéndolo todo para que segun él sus grandiosos imperios omnipotentes sean reconocidos.
@03Terrestre lo de el es un tanto enfermizo,alarda de que los reinos y tribus de las islas eran grandes imperios que vivian en armonia... lol luego tambien me niega que vivian en el neolitico porque ellos vestian ropa y usaban armas de fuego, lo primero me parece de lo mas estupido, si fuera tambien los iberos y celtas eran muy avanzados xD, lo segundo fue gracias a la influencia de los chinos y japoneses...
@03Terrestre parece que no se da cuenta que con la colonizacion española ganaron mas que perdieron, ya que recivieron, objetos, animales, edificaciones, alimentos... de ambos continentes tanto de America (especialmente Mexico) como de europa... aparte de que su idioma talago tiene una fuerte influencia del español e incluso de otros idiomas nativos de america... los idiomas nativos de filipinas nunca se anularon es mas los estudiraon y los convirtieron al alfabeto latin...
@IgnacioCalvo87 De acuerdo, ha llegado el tiempo en que los Hispanos del mundo defiéndamos en conjunto nuestra cultura que ha sido tan atacada especialmente por E.U.
@IgnacioCalvo87 And why not you tell him what actually happened? Sigh... I replied to that other person originally thinking that he thought we spoke Spanish and nothing else, which is completely false, we spoke other things besides Spanish, sorry I am only human, he was not specific in what he said.
@IgnacioCalvo87 And like I said back there, you were correct in some cases, but not if we are actually talking about a nation run by the natives and not one run by Spain.
@IgnacioCalvo87 Your opinions are not facts, this is what you don't understand, to be honest my thought of us losing more than winning can also be counted as an opinion too, but you were the first to start telling me what I apparently am and what I wasn't, you should have posted this as your own opinions. And hey, I didn't start this dispute with 03Terrestre, he did when he mocked my ancestors, there were no significant disagreements whatsoever between us before that in this comment thread.
@03Terrestre and lastly, the only important contributions I can really jot down would be the unifying of the archipelago, however this is not to say that we couldn't have done it by ourselves. Catholicism, however was already being taught by french explorers, and portuguese too, if spain wasn't there, there would still be a significant number of catholics.
@ThtOnePinoy Are you kidding? Hhahaha! The Aztecs were more advanced than any civilizations in what is now known as the Philippines. Loin cloth or not, and loin cloths were not the only clothing worn. Hispanic Philippinos have made a tremendous mark on their country and possibly the biggest.
@03Terrestre Lol, you will feel pretty fucking stupid when you read just how advanced our kingdoms in luzon were. Im sorry for this, but did you guys have working gun-powder? No, do you have more advanced fighting tactics then what our ancestors, tribal and not tribal, made? Didn't think so, however we were colonized at least 40 years after the aztec empire was. Your ancestors were pretty advanced, but don't underestimate mines. Especially when you know nothing about them dipshit.
@03Terrestre They did not make as much tremendous marks as their ancestors did, lol you should not pick another arguement in which you won't win, you know nothing of my ancestors, so I suggest you back off, I don't criticize yours, because I actually admire them and know a little about them, you on the other hand are probably the typical dipshit who, like I said, thinks we were primitive brainless jungle people, once again, don't jump in something in which you know nothing about.
@ThtOnePinoy First of all anyone reading our conversation will see that your acting like a total ass. Your use of foul language when i was not using it, simply shows how your a bullying fuck up. But since you acted like a total chimp then you deserve my response! You're used to getting your way but this time you picked on the wrong person.
@03Terrestre I only used some whenever the conversation became heated, regardless it wasn't as much compared to a typical conversation of this topic, you should understand how sensitive this topic is,but lol, ok I will join in this contest as well ^_^ , and hmm thanks for the compliment, you asspirate!We established ties with the Ming Dynasty, as a result, during the 16th century ancient philippines the area of luzon already had their own silversmiths, or Panday PIlak making gun cannons and such
@03Terrestre And correction, I started making insults towards you ONLY because you started making ignorant insults towards my ancestors which you didn't even add any support to that claim. Obvious ignorant statement, is an ignorant statement, don't think I'm just going to take that without any retaliation.
@ThtOnePinoy I don't give a fuck, the fact is We were discussing without foul language, then you felt insulted of my comment when YOU FIRST insulted Mexicans. You got twisted all out of shape and started using foul language first, and anyone reading this can check for themselves
@03Terrestre I never started the insults, it was you who started insulting ancient filipinos, I mean, cmon, mine wasn't as in depth as yours and at least I don't really mean them, and fyi, your 1st insult towards my ancestors, which started this thing to begin with, to me is more than mere foul language. Correction, anyone who sees this will know you were the one who started it, not me.
@03Terrestre "Are you kidding? Hhahaha! The Aztecs were more advanced than any civilizations in what is now known as the Philippines. Loin cloth or not, and loin cloths were not the only clothing worn. Hispanic Philippinos have made a tremendous mark on their country and possibly the biggest." - This is where it started, this is more insulting than foul language. Perhaps you will understand now.
@etoilechicknoir , Si! los Chavacanos comen "puto" tambien, puto es una comida pero "puta" es el mala palabra para todos filipinos y Chavacanos tambien.
Ciudad de Zamboanga el antes Republica de Zamboanga, ojala hay puede otr vez establece su perdido soverina como un republica donde el idioma Chavacano es el Lengua Oficio del antes Pias (Republica de Zamboanga)
@NutsandGuts It's people like you who make phrases like "Freedom of Speech" seem like a very stupid idea, indeed. Where does all this hatred come from, anyway? Did these Chavacanos do anything to hurt you, maybe tell you about your attitude problem and lack of tact? Do you need a hug?
@NutsandGuts que malo estas. Tienes que entender el contexto. El chavacano es el producto de malo educacion en el siglo de colonizacion de los espanoles, que no podian ensenar espanol correcta.
El Chavacano es un LENGUAJE con SEIS(6) Dialectas nombrado como: Caviten, Ternateno, Ermiten, Cotabaten, castellano Abakay y el Zamboangueno. el Zamboangueno amo el de todo mucho hablantes na entero mundo, considerando como el Lengua Oficial del Ciudad de Zamboanga, se conversado tambien na entero region del Filipinas, na Semporna-Malysia, Latina-amejica, Europa, Centro-Asia y el como se llama Filipino disapora. Aproximado con 2.5milliones de hablantes que tienes.
Mi dialecta que yo ta usa para comunica es Zamboangueno y el mi Lenguaje que yo ta usa para comunica es chavacano.! intiendes?;-)
mayoria del mana Linguistos Local aqui na Filipinas ta habla que kita mana zamboangueno eres no un Filipino siendo que el de nuestro idioma es un estranjero! pero dejalo lang, el importante, hay grita lang kita "YO SOY ZAMBOANGUENO QUE FILIPINO SI ANCINA MAN EL TRATO CON NOSOTROS!!!!"
>Si! tene gat mezlca de Portuguese tambien Native American eres como Quechua, Taino, Mexican-Indian y otras, tambien Austhronesians como tagalo, bisaya, sama lauan, lama banguingui, yakan, tausug, subanon, chino, iloco, ilonggo y otras.
@TaikiLangleyAoi Kapampangan is my dialect :D you should study the other languages, they all have their distinctness, but they all have a common structure, except for chabakano, obviously because it's a dialect of spanish.
@ThtOnePinoy I'm actually quite interested in studying it. There aren't Philipines languages academies in my country though, so i may be traveling there to learn =)
@ThtOnePinoy I was only interested in Tagalog but then you talked about Kampangan which i didn't know before. This is aside but i do want to live in Asia and work as a Language teacher/translator :D
@TaikiLangleyAoi Ah well you should understand there are plentiful more languages than Tagalog, or Kapampangan. If you are truly interested, there is one main difference between the two, of that being that Tagalog is what is called a "love language". While Kapampangan, I think is more on the complex side, but not entirely sure as I'm trying to separate the lexical borrowings from tagalog and the original terms of my language. There is many more than just mine or tagalog remember though
@akosigundam Why, what's the problem if the Philippines has its own creole Spanish? There are lots of languages which vary in different countries, and even Spanish has its own variety of usage in Latin America! No ustedes dale atencion con aquel comento, mga hermano Chabacano!
@akosigundam Spain even had its variations of different languages and dialects, ie. Basque so it's no different from the other pidgin, creole languages that came out from Spanish.
@jlhabitan50: Your example doesn't support your argument. Basque is a language isolate; it is completely unrelated to any Romance language. In fact, linguists consider it as a sort of anomaly since they couldn't trace its origins.
I remember this old Basque saying: "Before the boulders were boulders and God was God, the Basques were already Basques." Such is their pride that they believe to be the "original" Europeans. Or whatever that means.
@akosigundam Ah I see...Well I thought that in one way or another, it branched out from Latin the same way how the other Romance languages came to be especially that the Basque region is particularly closer to the rest of the regions in the Iberian peninsula.
Medyo OT na tayo rito pero yeah, gets ko na rin iyung punto mo. :D
@akosigundam Excuse me? Being the son of a filipina, albeit not one who spoke Chavacano, I find this comment EXTREMELY insulting. How dare the filipinos be conquered and ruled by Spain! How DARE they, as a people, assume the language of their colonists! This is like saying that the speech of late 19th century African-American slaves is "an abomination to the language of Shakespeare and Milton." Take your racist filth elsewhere.
Chavacano is a cool dialect. It's mostly spanish mixed with other dialects that makes it creole spanish. Most pinoys claim they speak spanish coz of their tagalog. LOL In reality they just use some spanish words in everyday conversation like libro or kamusta (como esta). But that doesn't mean u speak spanish. lol.
Creo que chavacana suena muy nitido y deberia de ser reconocido como otro acento latino. Ademas sus personas son diferentes y eso lo hace mas interesante y estupendo...
@ordonez12345 afters spaniards left in 1896 americans came from then they really influenced us their westernized culture!! even up to now i wish they didnt abolish spanish!!!
@sqxyfay we were never formal taught Spanish by the Spaniards, or at least was taught by a privileged few that's why this kinda encouraged the growth of the languages we already have although certain elements of Spanish was integrated into them.
@jlhabitan50 oh yeah now i remember!!! even in noli me tangere only rich filipinos speak spanish and they were called and less privilege one were called indio!!!
@8LiLBboy8 muchas gracias contigo, ta conversa yo contigo na chavacano pero ta entende yo con sabe tu ta abla. viva tambien el america latina :) quiere yo el pilipinas pati el america latina queda amigos. muchas gracias ole!
Chavacano used to be the language here in Cavite way back in early days, but now only few people speak that language and as far as I know only two municipalities in Cavite speak that langugae, Ternate and Ciudad de Cavite. I think that this language must be teach in the Philippines.
@direkpokus There used to several several flavors of Chavacano: Chavacano de Zamboanga (Zamboangueño), Chavacano de Cavite (Caviteño), Chavacano de Ternate, (in Cavite) (Ternateño), Chavacano de Ermita (Ermitaño), Chavacano de Cotabato (Cotabateño), Chavacano de Davao (Davaoeño) Punta ka sa omniglot(dot)com, tapos i enter mo sa searchbox "chavacano". Maybe someone will post a video tutorial on how to speak chavacano.
@direkpokus Yup, i believe there's supposed to be a law that allows, or at the least encrouages the teaching and development of other Philippine languages besides FIlipino and English as they're supposed to be protected as part of our heritage as a people, Spanish included.
Such shame that these unique variations of the Spanish language here in the Philippines are facing extinction if only young people today are willing to continue this legacy.
Interesting reality that Spanish cultural language of Chavacano is preserved in a very hostile environment in Mindanao! I dont even understand Spanish, when we were ruled by Spain for more than 300 years..
xrismdumaran 1 week ago
... ::: Increíble que después de TODA la invasión Norteamericana, AUN queden remanentes del IDIOMA ESPAÑOL...!!
Xaviereduardoful 3 weeks ago
@Xaviereduardoful Los Mexicanos Son NorteAmericanos Tambien Seria La Invasion Estdounidense
ontario863 2 days ago
deberian seguir hablando chavacano para que la comunicdad latina siga creciendo x todo el mundo, soy mexicano y si le entendi
jobcruzca 1 month ago
que grande! si se entiende todo! el español vive en filipinas! viva filipinas española! no podreis borrar nuestro legado yankis hijos de puta!
SEGUIMOSVIVOS 1 month ago
el golpe di pacquiao como rapido ya tupa na mi querpo...
joey143anna 2 months ago
YO ENTIENDO TODO !
fddjdmjm 2 months ago
Se entiende
edgodi 2 months ago
Jóvenes del presente generación.... Interesante.
Nyopo100 3 months ago
Wow Pensé que era español hasta que me di cuenta que no comprendía TODO, pero Es Idéntico. Qué Maravilla !
KevinPerezBecerra1 3 months ago 2
parece muy espanol excepto en ciertas palabras como "maga", "jende" y "lang". Es perfectamente inteligible!
elsomnoliento 3 months ago
Chavacano: Maga jovenes del presente generacion posible jende mas conoce con el antes alcalde del ciudad, Vitaliano Agan, fuera ya lang si ta descuti na escuela acerca el historia del ciudad donde posible ta menciona con su nombre na clase. A segun con un antes companera na politica del difunto, maga estudiante el numero uno que tiene que rendi gracias con Agan por el maga proyecto que inicia ele durante su termino.
elsomnoliento 3 months ago 5
muy interesante!!!!!, teniendo en cuenta la supremacia linguistica -via medios de comunicación- de esa lengua ordinaria y fea del ingles
funebre1936 4 months ago
!si! mas o menos... setenta y cinco del por ciento espanol y treinta y cinco del porciento tagalog.. pero no estoy seguro. jajaja :) ?Qué te parece?
filipino ako pero I'm so tanga not knowing all this until a couple of months ago when learning spanish. proud ako na this existed pala sa bansa natin. magagamit ko nalalaman ko when I go to zamboanga ...wow!!!!
youtoob9681 4 months ago
chavacano es el combinacion de tagalo y español lenguage.. no???
johnericsantiago28 4 months ago
@johnericsantiago28 si pero tagalo tiene muchas palabras de la lengua español tambien
InSpErAtiOn97 4 months ago
@InSpErAtiOn97 eres tu filipino o español?...yo no bueno en español... estoy nuevo aqui en españa.. tengo muchos practicir para hablar español..xD
johnericsantiago28 4 months ago
@johnericsantiago28 soy de chile
InSpErAtiOn97 4 months ago
@johnericsantiago28 si, si, si....
gloryjade226 1 week ago
soy madrilenio me llamo tan vivo en calle carlos hernandez cerca del metro quintana buscando una chika haha ( bruma)
MrBulik12 6 months ago
Yo concose Agan lol
sabrinacarmelotes 6 months ago
I WANT TO BE CHAVACANO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jondominguez12 6 months ago
wtf is this?
kfjsjkf1 6 months ago
porque sira tsinelas lagyan ng imperdible para ayos
Deathtoaltotune2010 7 months ago 5
Viva filipina. .
syntaxengot000 8 months ago
no te Entindoo O.O
jejeje joke :D yo soii Hables en Japon, Catalan, Espanol yy Vizaya :D
BREBOYDE 8 months ago
Beautiful language, se le entiende todo en espanol...
alex21mu 8 months ago
@alex21mu yo tambien, guau!
ElJefeNLA 5 months ago
Hablo Espanol de Mexico Yo puedo entender lo ella dice Chavacano muy Bonito
ontario863 9 months ago
AMAZING! I appreciate filipino culture more and more and more!
EfAyElAyPeeAyEnOw 9 months ago
El español tiene a 3 millones de hablantes en Las Filipinas.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
wow, just amazing. El chavacano debería de tener mayor difusión. Yo como hispanoparlante sencillamente no conocia este lengua tan bella. Saludos!
nazongo 9 months ago
sana pala ganito na lang yung salita natin pangalawa ang tagalog!
6digit 9 months ago
Las Filipinas incrementa su participacion en el mundo hispano, y los hispanos del mundo le damos la bienvenida!
03Terrestre 9 months ago
In Mexico we love our native languages like Nahuatl, pronounced "Nawa" with a very light or faint touch of the final tl. Our national language though is Spanish as the majority of Mexicans have Spanish blood.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre South-east asia also has a lot of written history about our ancestors, but we dont even take the time to notice that there are a lot of written history, right inside our neighbor's archives. Plus, like I said, what good is a country that has lost it's identity? Might as well shoot yourself in the head or become a vassal, me and a surplus millions of filipino would die before that ever happens.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
aunque carga mucho la letra ch para hablar, es como si fuera una mezcla a ratos de italiano con rumano y una pisca de brasileño.
pero se entiende clarito si el español q se logra escuchar a ratos.
Matadore29 9 months ago
aunque hable casi un 80% de español y el resto modimos locales,
pues yo le entiendo igual el mensaje que desea transmitir.
Matadore29 9 months ago
LOL I thought this was tagalog porque se los dos lenguas espanol y tagalog...haha
hehedaniel66 9 months ago
Why can't this be our national language instead of bloody Tagalog -.-
jbislove08 9 months ago
@jbislove08 As more Philppinos live amongst Hispanics in the U.S., Spanish will be a more common language heard with Philippinos. Saludos amigo!
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@jbislove08 Spanish will be a language that will increase with Philippinos because of the exchange in conversation with Hispanics in the U.S. Saludos amigo!
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre thats true because my friend that is filipino his grandparents ,uncles,aunts,speak basically spanish, and the chavacono in their daily basis its very cool i bet one day theyl change english for spanish later in the phillipines ;)
changolini 9 months ago
@changolini That, in the long term, will hurt our country, and our identity. We should be focusing on preserving our own languages, and teach our own writing systems more.
As for the English-Spanish dispute, well to tell you the truth, I honestly don't give a damn about neither.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Whether you give a damn or don't, Spanish will grow in importance as the entire west coast of the U.S. is covered by it.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre Wishful thinking at best... Lol, high priority should be given to preserving your own culture. It's growing, so what?(which tbh, looking from an impartial viewpoint, there's truly nothing special about the growth, no "boom", it's use is growing, just like any other highly used language that's out there... -_-)
You really should start looking at it from an impartial viewpoint, just the fact you always bring this "growth" up to me even though I didn't ask is a little odd...
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre What's a country without an identity? Nothing, you might as well consider yourself a vassal.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Your constant rejection of Hispanic Philippinos doesn't ring odd to you?
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy its ok i know how u feel and every other filipino as well in my country mexico we are tryn to do they same with our indiginous languages very hard , the mexican and filipino goverment dont give a shit about their native languages i know this because my filipino friends tell me that all the time and i tell them the same . and i hate how when we are in america our own people act like they forgot were they come from and their customs . in other words white american washed
changolini 9 months ago
@changolini But you do accept that the Spanish language is the language that Mexico should keep as official right?
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre I don't reject hispanic filipinos at all, what I reject is the colonial mentality. Lol, an asian philippines will always be better than a hispanic one. The other asians who criticized the Philippines for leaning towards latin more than asian are correct, and you know what? They actually pay attention to our history too, like who would've known the Koreans knew about Lapu-Lapu? They made a statue out of him in honor of our help in their korean war
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre as for Japan, several Japanese researchers interest in our langauge and writing system, like Hiroaki Kitano are interested in preserving languages that are being endangered like Kapampangan, and many of their researchers have also found ancient pottery sold to ancient Japan during the 16th century and even before that was written in kulitan, one of our ancestors writing systems. And China? They have a lot of written history about our ancestors.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@changolini Agreed!!! Its funny how we face a common problem even concerning our languages. It's even more sad to me is that a lot of our languages don't come of from indigenous, like my moms dialect, her ancestors were known back then as rulers of kingdoms. Such a good history we had, and we all throw it away... And constantly reject. And sorry for my ignorance, I know that there are different mexican native languages, I always hear of Nahuatl though, thanks for telling me them.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy its ok i understand and agree with u
changolini 8 months ago
@jbislove08 Why should we use tsabakano as a national language? That's just stupid... Why not just drop the national language system completely, and instead make recognised languages.
I agree that Tagalog being the national language isn't that great, but this isn't really a good alternative... Infact, I think we'll be seeing a similar problem if we do this, in that tsabakano's reputation will get criticized, just like tagalogs.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Asians have their pull on some Phillippinos and at the same time Hispanics have their gravitational bond to other Philippinos. It is that simple, only time will tell who's grows more in importance. But I do know that Hispanics being 20% of the U.S. population and the Philippinos living amongst Hispanics in the U.S. shows how that pull ultimatley will lean. And it does look like a Hispanic Filipinas!
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre If you actually payed close attention, you will notice in spite of this, there are many filipino who don't feel this same way as you do. Infact, our last Prime minister went so far as to request to change the name of the Philippines. Regardless, just, hell no... I will die before my country becomes like that, identity-less people... In reality, it will do no good, having an actual identity > having a hispanic fetish.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy I recocnize many Philippinos not identifying with Hispanics, obviously them being the Chinese or Malay or what have you, but Philippinos with Hispanic mix in them have all the right to continue in touch with their Hispanic bretheren across the Pacific. To that part of the population we Hispanics welcome them to participate in the Hispanic world and build a strong International identity. You don't have to die, just recocnize and coexist, they are not all pure Malay or Chinese.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre Just as not all of us are hispanic, your very contradicting to what your last comment said. Impartialness does wonders, learn from it... And anyways, those roots make up a lot of Luzon, but mostly it is Malay, Indian, southern Chinese, and Taiwanese aboringes. And I wasn't just referring to China, I was referring to Japan, and south-east Asia, unless you are the typical stereotyper who thinks whenever someone is talking about asia that they are talking about China.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Do you have a Chinese fetish since you mention them as Philippino roots alot.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Do you have a Chinese fetish since you mention them as your Philippino roots so many times.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre I refer to Asia(specifically east asia)not just China, as they make up the bulk of our ancestral roots. You have a fetish going on though, it is obvious in your comments, such as for example, whenever I am in this topic you always bring up the "growth of spanish" that in reality it's nothing to be surprised about... Aka hyperboling-much, and you try to sound like having equal perspectives, but truly you wouldn't mind having our native culture gone, and everything replaced.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre They have a right, just like everyone else, but ultimately filipino is not hispanic, they just have history with hispanics. When you are referring to the filipino people, you are referring to the natives, not the mixed hispanic. I don't know whether Mexicans are truly majority mixed with spanish blood from what you said, but if that's true well then your mistake is probably trying to apply that to us, when in reality it is the exact opposite, despite our colonization being longer.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre Of course there are mixes, and hispanic-filipino mixes are still filipino, but I refer to the blood and the identity, obviously the people before Spain came were not magically hispanics.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy It's like this; In your attempt to emphasize that the Philippines is Asian, you try to eraticate the Hispanic Philippinos attempt at natural cultural exchanges with their fellow Hispanics. You cannot deny Philippinos their freedom to choose who they relate to. You relate to Chinese, and that is your right. but don't deny that same freedom to Hispanic Philippinos.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre It isn't anything like that, while I do emphasize our true roots, I still see halfs like this, for example, if I was like, half russian, I would have pride in that as well, or if I was half-norwegian, same thing, that's how I see it, there's nothing wrong with liking your other half, but you cannot apply that to your people, like for example, if you were half russian, and half japanese, you cannot apply that as if it were your people that were half-russian and half japanese.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre asian in filipino however, is a common ancestry, unless if you were aeta, then you share this common ancestry, you think I am not giving equal rights, but in reality I'm shaming the people who aren't noticing their true roots, or who wish to hide it. And fyi, I'm not just emphasizing the chinese part, it is only one of the several mixes, like I said, taiwanese aboringes, southern chinese, malaysian, indian, or other s.e. or east asian.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy I understand, If there is a Philippino Hispanic and he bonds to the Hispanic culture, it does not mean his particular culture is the majority. It just means he and the smaller populations of Philippinos are. Hispanic Philippinos recognize they are not the majority. But the Chinese Phillipinos for example, have to recocnize the overwhelming importance and contributions that Hispanic Philippinos have made to the overall country of the Philippines.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre Um, yeah... If you take a look at the history, most of their "contributions" were actually replacing an existing culture, that is not enriching. Infact, the only enriching I can actually think of is catholicism, however there was the arrival of the portuguese and the french. Also, many of our towns names are not the actual names, they are just a fail interpretation of the spaniards, for example, cavite is really kawit, or tangway, siquijor is really kihod.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre Ah there was also the unifying of the whole archipelago, however it was done improperly, when your unified your supposed to like each other, unfortunately this is not the case. Regardless, they did not contribute as much as they interrupted our own progress, for example, there was already silversmiths in 16th century philippines making gun-powder related arsenal. Our rice terraces were definitely advanced as well, and who could forget our martial arts? Only small examples still.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre When you get colonized, people will think as if you were a primitive monkey people before, wearing nothing but the loincloth you had, this was the exact opposite of our ancestors, but not much people know of this. It's an ever-lasting trend where the much more knowledgeable filipino know about this, while the others choose to ignore, there is no incentive anymore, only ignorance.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy You wrote; reffering to Mexicans, "wearing nothing but loincloths you had, this was the exact opposite of our ancesters" there you were reffering to your people. And that is when I made a point of view comment, simple, no foul language, then you went berzerk!
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre "When you get colonized, people will think as if you were a primitive monkey people before, wearing nothing but the loincloth you had, this was the exact opposite of our ancestors, but not much people know of this" This is the whole first half, I was not referring to mexicans, I was referring to what most people think of what the people would've been had they not been colonized, you just misunderstood what I said.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre (continued) and also, cmon the only things I ever said was hell no, and damn, lol I'm just expressing how much I think strongly of this. Nontheless, they aren't even directed towards you!
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Did you not call me dipshit?
03Terrestre 9 months ago
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@03Terrestre I only called you a dipshit after you made such an ignorant comment "Are you kidding? Hhahaha! The Aztecs were more advanced than any civilizations in what is now known as the Philippines. Loin cloth or not, and loin cloths were not the only clothing worn. Hispanic Philippinos have made a tremendous mark on their country and possibly the biggest." You know nothing of my ancestors... Don't make such naive comments like that.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre no vale la pena dialogar con ThtOnePinoy, cuando uno no esta deacuerdo con el o no tiene argumentos te empieza a insultar... en otro video llamado "Spanish language in the Philippines" empezo a llamarnos estupido cuando dijimos una verdad como una casa, que el español o castellano es el lenguage original de Filipinas, cosa que es cierta, asi lo dice la primera constitucion filipina y asi fue durante toda la colonia, donde se fue formando una nacion que hoy se conoce como Filipinas.
IgnacioCalvo87 9 months ago
@IgnacioCalvo87 De acuerdo contigo, pero hay vezes es necesario dialogár con gente como el (o changitos como el, cuando se comporta como uno) para que no desparramen sus mentiras. Le gusta contar sus datos pero torciéndolo todo para que segun él sus grandiosos imperios omnipotentes sean reconocidos.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre lo de el es un tanto enfermizo,alarda de que los reinos y tribus de las islas eran grandes imperios que vivian en armonia... lol luego tambien me niega que vivian en el neolitico porque ellos vestian ropa y usaban armas de fuego, lo primero me parece de lo mas estupido, si fuera tambien los iberos y celtas eran muy avanzados xD, lo segundo fue gracias a la influencia de los chinos y japoneses...
IgnacioCalvo87 9 months ago
@03Terrestre parece que no se da cuenta que con la colonizacion española ganaron mas que perdieron, ya que recivieron, objetos, animales, edificaciones, alimentos... de ambos continentes tanto de America (especialmente Mexico) como de europa... aparte de que su idioma talago tiene una fuerte influencia del español e incluso de otros idiomas nativos de america... los idiomas nativos de filipinas nunca se anularon es mas los estudiraon y los convirtieron al alfabeto latin...
IgnacioCalvo87 9 months ago
@03Terrestre los estadounidenses han echo mucho daño no solo a los paises hispanos, si no a al mundo entero
IgnacioCalvo87 9 months ago
@IgnacioCalvo87 De acuerdo, ha llegado el tiempo en que los Hispanos del mundo defiéndamos en conjunto nuestra cultura que ha sido tan atacada especialmente por E.U.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@IgnacioCalvo87 And why not you tell him what actually happened? Sigh... I replied to that other person originally thinking that he thought we spoke Spanish and nothing else, which is completely false, we spoke other things besides Spanish, sorry I am only human, he was not specific in what he said.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@IgnacioCalvo87 And like I said back there, you were correct in some cases, but not if we are actually talking about a nation run by the natives and not one run by Spain.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@IgnacioCalvo87 Your opinions are not facts, this is what you don't understand, to be honest my thought of us losing more than winning can also be counted as an opinion too, but you were the first to start telling me what I apparently am and what I wasn't, you should have posted this as your own opinions. And hey, I didn't start this dispute with 03Terrestre, he did when he mocked my ancestors, there were no significant disagreements whatsoever between us before that in this comment thread.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre and lastly, the only important contributions I can really jot down would be the unifying of the archipelago, however this is not to say that we couldn't have done it by ourselves. Catholicism, however was already being taught by french explorers, and portuguese too, if spain wasn't there, there would still be a significant number of catholics.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Are you kidding? Hhahaha! The Aztecs were more advanced than any civilizations in what is now known as the Philippines. Loin cloth or not, and loin cloths were not the only clothing worn. Hispanic Philippinos have made a tremendous mark on their country and possibly the biggest.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre Lol, you will feel pretty fucking stupid when you read just how advanced our kingdoms in luzon were. Im sorry for this, but did you guys have working gun-powder? No, do you have more advanced fighting tactics then what our ancestors, tribal and not tribal, made? Didn't think so, however we were colonized at least 40 years after the aztec empire was. Your ancestors were pretty advanced, but don't underestimate mines. Especially when you know nothing about them dipshit.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre They did not make as much tremendous marks as their ancestors did, lol you should not pick another arguement in which you won't win, you know nothing of my ancestors, so I suggest you back off, I don't criticize yours, because I actually admire them and know a little about them, you on the other hand are probably the typical dipshit who, like I said, thinks we were primitive brainless jungle people, once again, don't jump in something in which you know nothing about.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy First of all anyone reading our conversation will see that your acting like a total ass. Your use of foul language when i was not using it, simply shows how your a bullying fuck up. But since you acted like a total chimp then you deserve my response! You're used to getting your way but this time you picked on the wrong person.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy China had the gun powder asshole!
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre I only used some whenever the conversation became heated, regardless it wasn't as much compared to a typical conversation of this topic, you should understand how sensitive this topic is,but lol, ok I will join in this contest as well ^_^ , and hmm thanks for the compliment, you asspirate!We established ties with the Ming Dynasty, as a result, during the 16th century ancient philippines the area of luzon already had their own silversmiths, or Panday PIlak making gun cannons and such
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@03Terrestre And correction, I started making insults towards you ONLY because you started making ignorant insults towards my ancestors which you didn't even add any support to that claim. Obvious ignorant statement, is an ignorant statement, don't think I'm just going to take that without any retaliation.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy I don't give a fuck, the fact is We were discussing without foul language, then you felt insulted of my comment when YOU FIRST insulted Mexicans. You got twisted all out of shape and started using foul language first, and anyone reading this can check for themselves
03Terrestre 9 months ago
@03Terrestre I never started the insults, it was you who started insulting ancient filipinos, I mean, cmon, mine wasn't as in depth as yours and at least I don't really mean them, and fyi, your 1st insult towards my ancestors, which started this thing to begin with, to me is more than mere foul language. Correction, anyone who sees this will know you were the one who started it, not me.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy And even before that moment, you were already throwing in a foul word or two without me responding in the same manner.
03Terrestre 9 months ago
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@03Terrestre "Are you kidding? Hhahaha! The Aztecs were more advanced than any civilizations in what is now known as the Philippines. Loin cloth or not, and loin cloths were not the only clothing worn. Hispanic Philippinos have made a tremendous mark on their country and possibly the biggest." - This is where it started, this is more insulting than foul language. Perhaps you will understand now.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Another thing, you ignoramus, A Mexican invented the machine gun!
03Terrestre 9 months ago
parece catalan mezclado con portugues xD
IgnacioCalvo87 9 months ago
@IgnacioCalvo87 exctament lol
changolini 9 months ago
SI SI...yo conosi a una chica de Zambunga.... ella no creia que yo hablo chavacano? no yo hablo espanol....saludos a las Islas Filipinas
mighty690am 10 months ago
It'd be cool if all Filipinos spoke Spanish.
Sería genial si en Filipinas se hablara español.
alen1020 10 months ago
WHO SAID FILIPINOS ARE NOT LATINOS!!!!!!!!!!!! HUH? VIVA FILIPINAS Y ESPANA!!!
sheen5ful 10 months ago
Hablo Espanol puedo entender lo que ella dice Soy Mexicano
ontario863 10 months ago
chavacano is a broken spanish........ im proud bcoz im chavacno viva zamboanga
ramboanga1230 10 months ago
El chavacano un poco en espanol.Yo estoy filipino y A mi me gusta yo hablo en espanol y chavacano..
logerbad19 11 months ago
Tengo que preguntar si los Chavacanos tambien comen "puto" como los otros filipinos o tenian que cambiar el nombre. ha ha ha
etoilechicknoir 1 year ago
@etoilechicknoir , Si! los Chavacanos comen "puto" tambien, puto es una comida pero "puta" es el mala palabra para todos filipinos y Chavacanos tambien.
jeffnben 1 year ago
¡Es casi español! Increíble.
fragarcas1 1 year ago
@8LiLBboy8 vos sabes que estoy de acuerdo, Filipinas es hermana de Latino America, pero desgraciadamente una hermandad por violación.
makinganentrance 1 year ago
todo kamo sabe pika ylng kamo madre todo bagon ahahahaha kosa man keber diamun d espanyol diamun lenguahe lol ahahah
renzorenkean 1 year ago
¡Un saludo amigos! Desde el @ Canal de Filipinas en idioma español.
RepublicadeFilipinas 1 year ago
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1AngelSolo 1 year ago
@8LiLBboy8 .....no....90 percent of filipinos do not understand chabacano...
*no..90 por ciento no entiende esa idioma*
TWON123 1 year ago
si quilaya yo ta escribi aqui entonces este tambien el mi cultura y identidad. porque? El Lenguaje es Cultura y de nuestro identidad!
con gritos......I'm proud Zamboangueno!!!! Viva zamboangueno! viva herencia Hispanica!!!! Viva Zamboangueno Latino!!!!!!!
Ciudad de Zamboanga el antes Republica de Zamboanga, ojala hay puede otr vez establece su perdido soverina como un republica donde el idioma Chavacano es el Lengua Oficio del antes Pias (Republica de Zamboanga)
Guachinanggo 1 year ago
@Guachinanggo El chabacano ese es un idioma de mierda! Lo odio...Parece Español hablado por un niño de 3 años!
Hijo de puta.
NutsandGuts 1 year ago
@NutsandGuts
>>>Esos tres palabras de crear un frase tiene que hace de tu cuerpo. HDP, usted ese!
Guachinanggo 1 year ago
@Guachinanggo ESAS* UNA FRASE* HABLA BIEN!!!!
NutsandGuts 1 year ago
@NutsandGuts It's people like you who make phrases like "Freedom of Speech" seem like a very stupid idea, indeed. Where does all this hatred come from, anyway? Did these Chavacanos do anything to hurt you, maybe tell you about your attitude problem and lack of tact? Do you need a hug?
Queenish7 1 year ago
@NutsandGuts que malo estas. Tienes que entender el contexto. El chavacano es el producto de malo educacion en el siglo de colonizacion de los espanoles, que no podian ensenar espanol correcta.
Queenish7 1 year ago
@Queenish7 I hope you choke on my cum bitch.
NutsandGuts 1 year ago
@NutsandGuts chinga tu madre
rhoad21 1 year ago
El Chavacano es un LENGUAJE con SEIS(6) Dialectas nombrado como: Caviten, Ternateno, Ermiten, Cotabaten, castellano Abakay y el Zamboangueno. el Zamboangueno amo el de todo mucho hablantes na entero mundo, considerando como el Lengua Oficial del Ciudad de Zamboanga, se conversado tambien na entero region del Filipinas, na Semporna-Malysia, Latina-amejica, Europa, Centro-Asia y el como se llama Filipino disapora. Aproximado con 2.5milliones de hablantes que tienes.
Guachinanggo 1 year ago
Mi dialecta que yo ta usa para comunica es Zamboangueno y el mi Lenguaje que yo ta usa para comunica es chavacano.! intiendes?;-)
mayoria del mana Linguistos Local aqui na Filipinas ta habla que kita mana zamboangueno eres no un Filipino siendo que el de nuestro idioma es un estranjero! pero dejalo lang, el importante, hay grita lang kita "YO SOY ZAMBOANGUENO QUE FILIPINO SI ANCINA MAN EL TRATO CON NOSOTROS!!!!"
Guachinanggo 1 year ago
ist sounds like tagalog but with spanish words!?
ErasmusPrime239 1 year ago
is this the official language spoken in zamboanga..or is it. only in the news?
nil1230 1 year ago
@nil1230 Es el idioma oficial de la ciudad de Zamboanga. It's the official language of Zambonga City.
Archangelicque 1 year ago
@nil1230
>>>Si! es el Lengua Oficio del Ciudad de Zamboanga.
Guachinanggo 1 year ago
llevo media noche leyendo sobre el Chavacano y cada vez me quedo más impresionado, pero oírlo hablado ha sido demasiado...
bonita historia la de este idioma
dpokor 1 year ago
It sounds like Spanish mixed with portuguese :D
TaikiLangleyAoi 1 year ago 9
@TaikiLangleyAoi
>Si! tene gat mezlca de Portuguese tambien Native American eres como Quechua, Taino, Mexican-Indian y otras, tambien Austhronesians como tagalo, bisaya, sama lauan, lama banguingui, yakan, tausug, subanon, chino, iloco, ilonggo y otras.
Guachinanggo 1 year ago
@TaikiLangleyAoi Portuguese has come to our lands before :D perhaps they left a little heritage behind.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Cool, didn't know that :O
TaikiLangleyAoi 9 months ago
@TaikiLangleyAoi Kapampangan is the exact opposite though, sounds very oriental-like with austronesian elements.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@TaikiLangleyAoi Kapampangan is my dialect :D you should study the other languages, they all have their distinctness, but they all have a common structure, except for chabakano, obviously because it's a dialect of spanish.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy I'm actually quite interested in studying it. There aren't Philipines languages academies in my country though, so i may be traveling there to learn =)
TaikiLangleyAoi 9 months ago
@TaikiLangleyAoi Which one are you interested in studying?
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy I was only interested in Tagalog but then you talked about Kampangan which i didn't know before. This is aside but i do want to live in Asia and work as a Language teacher/translator :D
TaikiLangleyAoi 9 months ago
@TaikiLangleyAoi Ah well you should understand there are plentiful more languages than Tagalog, or Kapampangan. If you are truly interested, there is one main difference between the two, of that being that Tagalog is what is called a "love language". While Kapampangan, I think is more on the complex side, but not entirely sure as I'm trying to separate the lexical borrowings from tagalog and the original terms of my language. There is many more than just mine or tagalog remember though
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
@TaikiLangleyAoi And we also have our own original writing systems, if you're interested in it, they are very similar to Katakana in their structure.
ThtOnePinoy 9 months ago
J*der, he podido entenderlo!
Chunbot882 1 year ago
Muy similar al español!!
BOHEMIANMEX 1 year ago
Better if they were speaking in Spanish; the pure untainted variant from Castille. The selfsame language spoken by my forefathers.
That damn pidgin is an insult to our Latinohispanic heritage.
akosigundam 1 year ago
@akosigundam Why, what's the problem if the Philippines has its own creole Spanish? There are lots of languages which vary in different countries, and even Spanish has its own variety of usage in Latin America! No ustedes dale atencion con aquel comento, mga hermano Chabacano!
cistercianus 1 year ago
@akosigundam Spain even had its variations of different languages and dialects, ie. Basque so it's no different from the other pidgin, creole languages that came out from Spanish.
jlhabitan50 1 year ago
@jlhabitan50: Your example doesn't support your argument. Basque is a language isolate; it is completely unrelated to any Romance language. In fact, linguists consider it as a sort of anomaly since they couldn't trace its origins.
I remember this old Basque saying: "Before the boulders were boulders and God was God, the Basques were already Basques." Such is their pride that they believe to be the "original" Europeans. Or whatever that means.
akosigundam 1 year ago
@akosigundam Ah I see...Well I thought that in one way or another, it branched out from Latin the same way how the other Romance languages came to be especially that the Basque region is particularly closer to the rest of the regions in the Iberian peninsula.
Medyo OT na tayo rito pero yeah, gets ko na rin iyung punto mo. :D
jlhabitan50 1 year ago
@jlhabitan50 Not HAD, but HAS. Dialects and languages are considered co-official languages in the regions they're spoken.
Chunbot882 1 year ago
@akosigundam Excuse me? Being the son of a filipina, albeit not one who spoke Chavacano, I find this comment EXTREMELY insulting. How dare the filipinos be conquered and ruled by Spain! How DARE they, as a people, assume the language of their colonists! This is like saying that the speech of late 19th century African-American slaves is "an abomination to the language of Shakespeare and Milton." Take your racist filth elsewhere.
dannyboythegreat 1 year ago
ken si legacia de agan? no konose man iyo konele. maskin de zamboanga iyo.
now that is cavacano.
winstonosa162 1 year ago
sí, muy bonito.. saludos desde brasil \ô
Gladddy 1 year ago
chavacano bien bunito uji! tarda ya yo nuay puede bolbe na zamboanga.. huhu
axcelheart20 1 year ago
Chavacano is a cool dialect. It's mostly spanish mixed with other dialects that makes it creole spanish. Most pinoys claim they speak spanish coz of their tagalog. LOL In reality they just use some spanish words in everyday conversation like libro or kamusta (como esta). But that doesn't mean u speak spanish. lol.
kahitnalangano 1 year ago
Chavacano sounds like a Filipino speaking in Spanish, but with their Filipino accent, lol! Love it!
engrish2006 1 year ago
maga, jende were filipino words from mga and hindi, the rest are spanish though...
.pero todavia es bueno que mi companeros de filipinas hablar algo espanol de forma nativa.
cloud17x 1 year ago
I am proud to be a chavacano native speaker~ I miss Zamboanga! best place ever. Any pinoys here?
jrgportillo 1 year ago
Creo que chavacana suena muy nitido y deberia de ser reconocido como otro acento latino. Ademas sus personas son diferentes y eso lo hace mas interesante y estupendo...
Maetuani 1 year ago
Interesante!! Porque no hay muchos filipinos que no pueden hablar asi? Este es un lenguaje(español) mas hermosa en el mundo. Incluyendo la gente pues
ordonez12345 1 year ago
@ordonez12345 afters spaniards left in 1896 americans came from then they really influenced us their westernized culture!! even up to now i wish they didnt abolish spanish!!!
sqxyfay 1 year ago
@sqxyfay we were never formal taught Spanish by the Spaniards, or at least was taught by a privileged few that's why this kinda encouraged the growth of the languages we already have although certain elements of Spanish was integrated into them.
jlhabitan50 1 year ago
@jlhabitan50 oh yeah now i remember!!! even in noli me tangere only rich filipinos speak spanish and they were called and less privilege one were called indio!!!
sqxyfay 1 year ago
VIVA EL LATINA HUMANOS IN EL MONDO!!!!!!PROUD TO BE LATINO FILIPINO,we are the only latin asinas in the world!!!
melbert214 1 year ago 4
@melbert214 Disculpa, pero no se llama latino, se llama español o castellano.
ACWW7 10 months ago
@8LiLBboy8 muchas gracias contigo, ta conversa yo contigo na chavacano pero ta entende yo con sabe tu ta abla. viva tambien el america latina :) quiere yo el pilipinas pati el america latina queda amigos. muchas gracias ole!
stuka80 1 year ago
I want to learn this langugae..
Chavacano used to be the language here in Cavite way back in early days, but now only few people speak that language and as far as I know only two municipalities in Cavite speak that langugae, Ternate and Ciudad de Cavite. I think that this language must be teach in the Philippines.
direkpokus 1 year ago
@direkpokus There used to several several flavors of Chavacano: Chavacano de Zamboanga (Zamboangueño), Chavacano de Cavite (Caviteño), Chavacano de Ternate, (in Cavite) (Ternateño), Chavacano de Ermita (Ermitaño), Chavacano de Cotabato (Cotabateño), Chavacano de Davao (Davaoeño) Punta ka sa omniglot(dot)com, tapos i enter mo sa searchbox "chavacano". Maybe someone will post a video tutorial on how to speak chavacano.
BobagemLixo 1 year ago
@direkpokus Yup, i believe there's supposed to be a law that allows, or at the least encrouages the teaching and development of other Philippine languages besides FIlipino and English as they're supposed to be protected as part of our heritage as a people, Spanish included.
Such shame that these unique variations of the Spanish language here in the Philippines are facing extinction if only young people today are willing to continue this legacy.
However, Chavacno seems to be alive and well.
jlhabitan50 1 year ago