If we judge these two performances based on how close to "perfect" either of them are, clearly Sergei comes out on top. Wynton's tone isn't always perfect, and some of the notes don't speak very well. Of course, these are risks that are more prevalent while playing legato. If Sergei had played it legato, it's hard to say if he would have had the same problems. I would guess not because he is a technical perfectionist. Playing this either legato or staccato has advantages and disadvantages.
He uses circular breathing on this - this is the most famous piece in which circular breathing is used as it could not have been played on trumpet prior to circular breathing being employed on the instrument - this was transcribed by Rafael Mendez . This is what true genius sounds like !!
Sorry guys, but the difficulty grade of this piece by Sergei is damned hard, superior than Wynton`s version... Sergei use circular breathing+double tongue staccato(!!!) at damned tempo... This piece is Paganini`s work-pure technic. It is not blues or jazz... Winton is probably the best trumpet player in the world, but for technic Sergei have no equals... Insane...
wynton marsalis' version is way better althought sergei's version is very good. lets just face it...in theory WYNTON MARSALIS is the best trumpet player who is alive on this earth. Wynton played this piece in his own sort of jazz style and his accuracy, tone and tounging was amazing. Wyntons just the best
The men DO have completely different styles..it would be slightly judgemental for someone to say, "Marsalis is better because of his legato style", because another person might say, "Sergei is the better of the two because of his more accurate tounging". I am not a Trumpet player, but I was already a fan of Wynton Marsalis. I had never heard Sergei play until recently. But, back to the point, these two men have different approaches to the music they play, be it Jazz, or Classical. Outstanding.
Circular breathing is quite possible for this piece. Rafael Mendez perfected it when he played Moto Perpetuo. Both are playing his arrangement. His tounging is cleaner and crisper than Sergei's...
Both are great in their different ways of playing it but i like Wynton's better because it is more realistic for a violinist to play it that way. It is harder to slur than to tongue also. But Sergei, I have to say awesome tonging technique.
Sergei`s Moto Perpetuo is, i have to say- fake(ok, not fake, but edited and cutted). As far as my understanding in trumpet playing goes, its physically impossible to tripple tongue and do circular breathing at the same time. I belive, Marsalis can play it like that too, but he choosed to record much belivable version with slurring
@MrVeinemeinen The movement of the tougue does not affect the air traps in your air pocket.Actually the most perfect record of this song is played by Rafael MENDEZ.You can listen to his song.He played exactly like sergei but his note is much cleaner.
How about you learn the piece at the same speed as them and try it once slurring and once tounging and then decide on it :) personally, i feel that tounging is more difficult for this piece because its just another thing you have to worry about while circular breathing and focusing on making the piece musical and with expression, slurring it is tough but you don't have to focus on so many things when slurring it
@biagioferro94 : non prendono fiato, utilizzano la cossiddetta "respirazione circolare", un sistema complicatissimo con cui prendono aria dal naso mentre emettono fiato dalla bocca. Personalmente (sono un insegnante di tromba) ho provato molte volte ad impararlo, ma non ci sono mai riuscito... Beati loro!
@biagioferro94 Come ti dicevo nella risposta precedente, è un sistema molto complicato. Se vuoi approfondire l'argomento, ti consiglio di visitare il sito musicaint.it dove troverai, nei link in basso a sinistra della homepage, senz'altro più spiegazioni di quelle che possa darti io in poche righe. Ciao!
Wynton sounds like he's just straightening out some jazz runs. The volume and phrasing is completely off. Sounds like a Jazz player showing off (oh wait, we're talking about WYNTON, so this makes perfect sense!!)
Sergei sounds like he's fighting off a swarm of gnats with that harsh attack, but his rhythm and phrasing is WAY better, so the RUSSIAN wins.
Now: GERARD SCHWARZ, please pickup your trumpet, and show these two clowns what the true meaning of OWNED is.
Alrite. Wynton played this more lyrically. However, in all fairness this is more of a technical excercise than actual music. It's just a wall of notes. With that in mind Sergei demonstrated a higher degree of technical ability (he double tongued the whole thing). Therefore he wins.
its really hard to choose whos better cus they're both amazing player. Wyntons sound is amazing but Sergeis multiple tounguing is incredible. i pick both. they're both winners
Never heard this done on trumpet—LOL—Nikolai Rimsky- Korsakov's opera The Tale of Tsar Saltan—or, Flight of the Bumble Bee—has nothing on this—tongued or slurred! Damn i love the trumpet!
I don't know what articulation is nonated, but I just heard a recording of Raphael Mendez playing it with every note tongued. Amazing! Oops. I hear Nakariakov tongues it too. Plus he phrases it better than either of the others.
@vitorio846 placing staccato on speficic notes (around 2:40) is not an easy task while playing legato though. If you wanna know how's Marsalis tonguing you should check the Fantaisie Brillante 3rd variation
@vitorio846 They are both great and both versions are definitely difficult. Is one of them more "easy"? So what? More difficult is better, musically? For instance, in this case I prefer the legato version because its smoother and more pleasant to my ear. My ear doesnt care, whats more difficult. Also, the fact that Wynton chose to play it the easier way, does not imply he isn't able to play it the other way as well. Your comment seems to follow technical fetish, rather than musical content.
Marsalis wins this round for sure. Nakariakov made a mistake trying to articulate throughout the piece. His double tonguing gets heavy and a little ugly up top. Try listening at 4:55- 5:05 just for an example. Mind you, both players are outstanding, but Marsalis showcased his talents, i.e. lyrical playing and technique and Sergei showed off his weakness: extended, light, consistent double tonguing.
@beneupho can you play this like either of them? I certainly can't and will continue to try to do it both ways. Either way makes a statement musically. Each approach constitutes a different challenge and bravo to both of them for what they do. I don't think you can pick a winner because they are both playing different styles.
Marsalis wins this round for sure. Nakariakov made a mistake trying to articulate throughout the piece. His double tonguing gets heavy and a little ugly up top. Try listening at 4:55- 5:05 just for an example. Mind you, both players are outstanding, but Marsalis showcased his talents, i.e. lyrical playing and technique and Sergei showed off his weakness: extended, light, consistent double tonging.
Wynton played the song with a lot of emotion, while Sergei played it with a lot of technicality. To me, I think they are both the best in their own way. But I like Rafael Mendez's version the best.
Is there really a question? Wynton Marsalis was as good as it could get until Sergei Nakariakov. But WM just isn't even in SN's league. He takes flugelhorn and trumpet to a new plane.
There's no comparison at all. Sergio double tongues the entire piece instead of slurring like Winton. Winton is incredible but Sergio is unbelievable!!
The more I listen, the more I question the ability to double tongue while circular breathing. I will have to try it more I suppose. It just really never occurred to me to try as I find myself focusing much more on the breathing and the notes. I know that Sergei recorded this in sections and Wynton did it all at once which I believe is why he isn't tonguing as much as Sergei. Is it weird that I like fast classical and love jazz but dislike be-bop?
I keep seeing things being written about the composer's "intent". I didn't know Paganini recorded it. Did he use pro tools?
With most classical music, unless you have a recording of the premiere of the composer's work then who is to say what the composer's intent was? I don't know of a person who has the right to say that an artists interpretation is flawed. Especially with Classical I believe that the soloist should put themselves into a piece.
Also it does sound as if Wynton does actually tongue some of the passages and it's not just slurring. It can be very hard to tell when he is tonguing because he is capable of doing it so smoothly that it can sound slurred. Grand Russian fanfare is a good example of the smooth attacks like he is using velvet
There is much more dynamic contrast in Wynton's recording as it is incredibly tough to tongue that fast and do it softly. Wynton is able to do some very soft tonguing work by using the back of the tongue, he uses the duh-guh instead of the tu-ku even though he said the duh-guh is slower.
I dont believe anyone has complete mastery of the instrument that Wynton has. Every style and every thing.
@GdoubleE01 I agree wholeheartedly. Who has mastered BOTH genres of classical and jazz to the level that Marsalis has? Nakariakov played this well but playing staccato throughout is harsh to my ears.
I personally like wyntons better. The slurred version is easier to listen to for four and a half minutes. I dont think sergei did this in one take because its impossible to double tongue and circular breath at the same time...
@Ggenesis3003 No it isnt, I saw this comment on the other video. just because 99 percent of people cant do it doesn't mean that its impossible. It can be done, but it is hard...
@KentPVA I guess that is true, I just dont see how its possible because in order to circular breath you need to close your soft pellet to breath in through your nose, but you cant close it and double tongue because you need it for the "guh" syllable for double tonguing.
you cannot definitively say that one is better than the other. they are two very good but different interpretations of the same piece. They're both trying to get something different out of the piece so it is only down to preference rather than actually technically being better.
eu preferi a versão do Wynton Marsalis pela beleza q ele dá na interpretação da música e pela suavidade de seu som....é claro que Nakariakov é outro gênio e sua interpretação também é fantástica, mas a do Wynton Marsalis tem algo a mais com toda certeza...
queda mas bonito picado como lo hace sergey.... pero es mucho mas dificil hacerlo ligado como lo hace marsalis por temas de tecnica..... pero por el simple hecho de estar ahi 4 minutos haciendo el ejercicio ese de respiracion ya tiene su merito... ni uno ni otro, sin duda son dos genios de la trompeta.
I think what no one seems to realize is that if Rafael Mendez had never recorded this piece we probably wouldn't be having this debate in the first place :).
I have great respect for both these artists and their renditions of this Paginini piece. That said, I believe that Wynton's accomplishment of playing the full 4 1/2 mins without stopping courtesy of circular breathing is almost god-like! What a test of embouchre strength and endurance not to mention the technical difficulties involved. Of course, I think Rafael's version is also amazing and his tone quality surpasses both even in the most difficult passages. I like Sergei's accents though.
@dagclarinet1 I know someone who was in the Eastman Wind Ensemble when Wynton did that recording and he did one practice run with the ensemble and one run to record it. With that in mind, I can forgive a few "flat" notes. Not sure about the other two recordings though.
@brasstrekker Hey, I just threw that out there to see if anyone was really listening. But of course, Wynton's chops are crazy. Props to him, definitely.
Nowadays there are too many computer junkies making beats. All the kid needs is 30 minutes to an hour to practice one specific study on the trumpet and the rest of time building his confidence mentally on that particular for next time.
Ciculare breathing while tonguing I believe is much difficult because there is that very brief pause of air flow not only that the tongue has to precisely hit at the correct timing. Incredible by both trumpeters. One more thing I highly recommend if you know a child, kid or teenager playing trumpet to encourage them to continue with that depleting art.
@ricaard I have heard three very fine performances of Moto Perpetuo on Guitar on you. Ron Lucca being the first ot ever record in on guitar in 1991. Unfortunately his performance on youtude is of the first time he perfromed the piece up to tempo. No incocert perforances hve be published as of yet on you tube.
@oldpython no problem on your spelling.. thank you for replying! Bireli Lgrene does three excerpts from Moto on video one in concert, but not the entire composition; it's one of his favorite classical pieces. I love the piece myself, and will attempt to record it this year on acoustic.
Both remarkable. Like you I prefer the slurred Wynton version tho the tongued version is probably more technically difficult -both versions are children of RM's fantastic recording - how groundbreaking THAT must have been when it was first released!!!
To blackguy119, Clifford Brown was not only a great jazz musician but a complete trumpeter who could play Classical music with equal brilliance.The same goes for Booker Little.There's no doubt that they would have played this piece beautifully had they chosen to.I play horn, but only Jazz and I know I'm not technically capable enough to play such a piece, unless I practice it for 40 years.
@olivierbarjot Clifford Brown vs Sergei Nakariakov? Who is better at the trumpet? (do not consider the fact that they play different two completely different styles (jazz vs classical))
Both versions are flawless, however, I'd say that Nakariakov's is somewhat more varied as far as phrasings & dynamics are concerned. The Moto Perpetuo is basically a mundane etude, purely mechanical, designed for spicatto bowing on the violin. In that respect, the Russian's stacco tonguing stands out over the more jazzy, legato style of Marsalis.
Because this devilish little etude is as such, both trumpeters score a 10. As far as real music is concerned, it's like comparing Heifetz to Menuhin.
Después de haber escuchado a ambos virtuosos: la ejecución de Winton es extraordinaria, pero la de Sergei es MAGISTRAL, SOLO COMPARADA CON EL VIRTUOSISMO Y MARAVILLA DEL MEJOR TROMPETISTA DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS, RAFAEL MENDEZ
Sergey the best!!!
mshampoo 5 hours ago
If we judge these two performances based on how close to "perfect" either of them are, clearly Sergei comes out on top. Wynton's tone isn't always perfect, and some of the notes don't speak very well. Of course, these are risks that are more prevalent while playing legato. If Sergei had played it legato, it's hard to say if he would have had the same problems. I would guess not because he is a technical perfectionist. Playing this either legato or staccato has advantages and disadvantages.
GrizzlyBahr 1 week ago
Moto Perpetuo on harmonica?
3:21 minutes?
Yes. For the best harmonica player ever: Edu da Gaita:
youtube.com/watch?v=KrriLcEPiOk
Maracangaia1 1 week ago
And surprise surprise the black guy sounds so much better !!
bevanmcg 1 week ago
He uses circular breathing on this - this is the most famous piece in which circular breathing is used as it could not have been played on trumpet prior to circular breathing being employed on the instrument - this was transcribed by Rafael Mendez . This is what true genius sounds like !!
bevanmcg 1 week ago
Tongued is so much more difficult I would say but then again is it??.
I could,nt get past the first 2 bars! lol well played.Big Fan!!.
kenlappin 1 month ago
When does Wynton breath ?
zviato 1 month ago
@zviato
At the end.
ANDREW007CZ 1 month ago
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TheStandUp1970 2 months ago
Ayos ka ah! Sana maging ganyan din ako..
dfLAzH01 2 months ago
oye este weon no respira? tiene una manguera metida en el poto jajajaja
grande Wynton (Y)
mones94 2 months ago
@mones94 respiracion circular
bilhernia 1 month ago
Fantastico !!
dubettoni 2 months ago
Fantastic! Magalee, Obrigado por esta maravilha. Que embocadura!
fredjmp 3 months ago
BRILHANTE!!
Obrigada, Magalee, por compartilhar essa preciosidade!!!!
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magajazzfan 3 months ago
Amazing.
lucianohortencio 3 months ago
as far as I know, only 3 great trumpet player play this piece, marsalis, mendez and nakariakov, is maurice andre can play this music?
eguchi351 3 months ago
Sorry guys, but the difficulty grade of this piece by Sergei is damned hard, superior than Wynton`s version... Sergei use circular breathing+double tongue staccato(!!!) at damned tempo... This piece is Paganini`s work-pure technic. It is not blues or jazz... Winton is probably the best trumpet player in the world, but for technic Sergei have no equals... Insane...
NISIROVEDE 3 months ago
wynton marsalis' version is way better althought sergei's version is very good. lets just face it...in theory WYNTON MARSALIS is the best trumpet player who is alive on this earth. Wynton played this piece in his own sort of jazz style and his accuracy, tone and tounging was amazing. Wyntons just the best
sTRadivaRiUsx 3 months ago
The men DO have completely different styles..it would be slightly judgemental for someone to say, "Marsalis is better because of his legato style", because another person might say, "Sergei is the better of the two because of his more accurate tounging". I am not a Trumpet player, but I was already a fan of Wynton Marsalis. I had never heard Sergei play until recently. But, back to the point, these two men have different approaches to the music they play, be it Jazz, or Classical. Outstanding.
musicalgamingathlete 3 months ago
@musicalgamingathlete erm,i agree with u about tat.
Max45020 3 months ago
Circular breathing is quite possible for this piece. Rafael Mendez perfected it when he played Moto Perpetuo. Both are playing his arrangement. His tounging is cleaner and crisper than Sergei's...
prinmancz52 4 months ago
Both Of You Are Perfect But Nakariakov Is Better Got To addmit !!!
Filipo137 4 months ago
Fantástico,bravo!!!
Psilva598 4 months ago
Marsalis play "moto perpetuo" as jazz and no as classics music. Marsalis is a great trumpets player!!
gcarlos03 4 months ago
Both are great in their different ways of playing it but i like Wynton's better because it is more realistic for a violinist to play it that way. It is harder to slur than to tongue also. But Sergei, I have to say awesome tonging technique.
96Chunka 4 months ago
@96Chunka you play trumpet?
vitorio846 3 months ago
Sergei is great!!! My grandmother plays this music in legato Wynton :P
Etagod 5 months ago
@Etagod yeah, right.. lmao
Sergei`s Moto Perpetuo is, i have to say- fake(ok, not fake, but edited and cutted). As far as my understanding in trumpet playing goes, its physically impossible to tripple tongue and do circular breathing at the same time. I belive, Marsalis can play it like that too, but he choosed to record much belivable version with slurring
MrVeinemeinen 4 months ago
@MrVeinemeinen Yes, I agree. And: For this music, legatto is much better.
Marsalis is my Idol, I was just making a comparison.
But even so, Sergei is a great trumpet player ( I don't know if it is trumpeter or trumpetist huahuahua)
Vive la trompette! :D
Etagod 4 months ago
@MrVeinemeinen erm.actually you can triple tougue while doing circular breathing.
Max45020 4 months ago
@Max45020 hmm.. and how exactly, if i may ask? cause i cannot imagine how to do that trick... ok, im not virtuoso.. maybe thats the fault! :D
MrVeinemeinen 4 months ago
@MrVeinemeinen The movement of the tougue does not affect the air traps in your air pocket.Actually the most perfect record of this song is played by Rafael MENDEZ.You can listen to his song.He played exactly like sergei but his note is much cleaner.
Max45020 4 months ago
OK...AND NOW for something totally new: I want to see either one SLURRING and TONGUING at the SAME TIME!!! LOL...
otavioandradas 5 months ago
los mejores 9 minutos que haya gastado en mi vida
neogennesiss 5 months ago
Its easy to play an instrument....but its hard to be really good at it. both are amazing in my eyes
Killer05Condom 5 months ago
How about you learn the piece at the same speed as them and try it once slurring and once tounging and then decide on it :) personally, i feel that tounging is more difficult for this piece because its just another thing you have to worry about while circular breathing and focusing on making the piece musical and with expression, slurring it is tough but you don't have to focus on so many things when slurring it
cnagy629 5 months ago
ma quando prendono fiato?????
biagioferro94 5 months ago
@biagioferro94 : non prendono fiato, utilizzano la cossiddetta "respirazione circolare", un sistema complicatissimo con cui prendono aria dal naso mentre emettono fiato dalla bocca. Personalmente (sono un insegnante di tromba) ho provato molte volte ad impararlo, ma non ci sono mai riuscito... Beati loro!
Mauro 58
maumog46 5 months ago
@maumog46 io suono ma non vedo come cavolo sia possibile inspirare ed espirare nello stesso tempo.....ci provo ma è impossibile......boh
biagioferro94 5 months ago
@biagioferro94 Come ti dicevo nella risposta precedente, è un sistema molto complicato. Se vuoi approfondire l'argomento, ti consiglio di visitare il sito musicaint.it dove troverai, nei link in basso a sinistra della homepage, senz'altro più spiegazioni di quelle che possa darti io in poche righe. Ciao!
maumog46 5 months ago
@maumog46 grazie mille
biagioferro94 5 months ago
I bet if Maynard were still alive, he'd win*
*This is fucking sarcasm, people
WhatTheFlyinFudge 5 months ago
Wynton sounds like he's just straightening out some jazz runs. The volume and phrasing is completely off. Sounds like a Jazz player showing off (oh wait, we're talking about WYNTON, so this makes perfect sense!!)
Sergei sounds like he's fighting off a swarm of gnats with that harsh attack, but his rhythm and phrasing is WAY better, so the RUSSIAN wins.
Now: GERARD SCHWARZ, please pickup your trumpet, and show these two clowns what the true meaning of OWNED is.
WhatTheFlyinFudge 5 months ago
Alrite. Wynton played this more lyrically. However, in all fairness this is more of a technical excercise than actual music. It's just a wall of notes. With that in mind Sergei demonstrated a higher degree of technical ability (he double tongued the whole thing). Therefore he wins.
djdman111 5 months ago
Marsalis is better... Smooth, Lyrical and nice..
TonyF273 6 months ago
Marsalis gets owned. The end.
awreckingball 6 months ago
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awreckingball 6 months ago
Le travail n'est pas le même pour chacun,la difficulté non plus!
abracadabranque 6 months ago
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zacman727 6 months ago
Great breath control; both musicians. Excellent quality sound.
Marveemarvan 6 months ago
its really hard to choose whos better cus they're both amazing player. Wyntons sound is amazing but Sergeis multiple tounguing is incredible. i pick both. they're both winners
awesomefrank1 6 months ago
i liked the second more, but they are both very, very advanced and have their own beauty marks.
likearc 6 months ago
never could wrap my head round rotary breathing—wanna gag and say Bravo simultaneously—impossible— i'll just say—BRAVO!!!
saturnined 7 months ago
Never heard this done on trumpet—LOL—Nikolai Rimsky- Korsakov's opera The Tale of Tsar Saltan—or, Flight of the Bumble Bee—has nothing on this—tongued or slurred! Damn i love the trumpet!
saturnined 7 months ago
Rather than saying one is better than the other, just playing all the notes there is a TOUR DE FORCE. Congrats to them both
jessica4908 7 months ago
I don't know what articulation is nonated, but I just heard a recording of Raphael Mendez playing it with every note tongued. Amazing! Oops. I hear Nakariakov tongues it too. Plus he phrases it better than either of the others.
angusmcrandy 7 months ago
I don't know what articulation is nonated, but I just heard a recording of Raphael Mendez playing it with every note tongued. Amazing
angusmcrandy 7 months ago
so is it supposed to be slurred or tongued? i've never seen sheet music.
dtrob1993 7 months ago
Sergei you are Great ! ! ! sorry Marsalis es more easy to play legato .
vitorio846 7 months ago 8
@vitorio846 no it's not. "slurring", which is what you mean, is harder than tonguing.
but both of them are still good.
TheHighwaytahell 5 months ago
@TheHighwaytahell i no say they are not good , the tonguing of nakariakov is harder to play , i know about trumpet a :
"litlle .
vitorio846 5 months ago
@vitorio846 actually, slurring is more challenging. i play trumpet, and it takes a large toll on your lips after a while, causing more fatigue.
TheHighwaytahell 5 months ago
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nicalarie 3 months ago
@vitorio846 placing staccato on speficic notes (around 2:40) is not an easy task while playing legato though. If you wanna know how's Marsalis tonguing you should check the Fantaisie Brillante 3rd variation
nicalarie 3 months ago
@vitorio846 They are both great and both versions are definitely difficult. Is one of them more "easy"? So what? More difficult is better, musically? For instance, in this case I prefer the legato version because its smoother and more pleasant to my ear. My ear doesnt care, whats more difficult. Also, the fact that Wynton chose to play it the easier way, does not imply he isn't able to play it the other way as well. Your comment seems to follow technical fetish, rather than musical content.
vecernicek2 3 months ago
Marsalis wins this round for sure. Nakariakov made a mistake trying to articulate throughout the piece. His double tonguing gets heavy and a little ugly up top. Try listening at 4:55- 5:05 just for an example. Mind you, both players are outstanding, but Marsalis showcased his talents, i.e. lyrical playing and technique and Sergei showed off his weakness: extended, light, consistent double tonguing.
beneupho 7 months ago
@beneupho can you play this like either of them? I certainly can't and will continue to try to do it both ways. Either way makes a statement musically. Each approach constitutes a different challenge and bravo to both of them for what they do. I don't think you can pick a winner because they are both playing different styles.
highchops81 6 months ago
Marsalis wins this round for sure. Nakariakov made a mistake trying to articulate throughout the piece. His double tonguing gets heavy and a little ugly up top. Try listening at 4:55- 5:05 just for an example. Mind you, both players are outstanding, but Marsalis showcased his talents, i.e. lyrical playing and technique and Sergei showed off his weakness: extended, light, consistent double tonging.
beneupho 7 months ago
Wynton played the song with a lot of emotion, while Sergei played it with a lot of technicality. To me, I think they are both the best in their own way. But I like Rafael Mendez's version the best.
rockvaletrumpeteer 7 months ago
Is there really a question? Wynton Marsalis was as good as it could get until Sergei Nakariakov. But WM just isn't even in SN's league. He takes flugelhorn and trumpet to a new plane.
phthartic 7 months ago
PUES SE PARECE AL MOTO PERPETUO. ASI SUENA SIN ESTACATO
CocoGomez2010 8 months ago
Paganini would probably have been very surprised anyone could play this on trumpet.
JazzyJonas 8 months ago 19
@JazzyJonas Paganini would probably be ANNOYED that someone would attempt to play this on trumpet. ;)
WhatTheFlyinFudge 5 months ago
@JazzyJonas Don't think trumpets even existed in Paganini's day.
nerdyal 4 months ago
@nerdyal well I think it actually existed
gregogr 4 months ago
They would have existed more as horns instead of trumpets lol don't think they had even thought to bend tubes back then xD
nerdyal 4 months ago
wynton is more musical
ohhstrumpet 8 months ago 2
Y is he so flat
Myclassicalrecording 8 months ago
@Myclassicalrecording who? there are 2 trumpet players. Wynton or Sergei?
theelitemusician 8 months ago
anyone ever seen him play live moto perpetuo?
rogerys1921 9 months ago
anyone ever seen him play live moto perpetuo?
rogerys1921 9 months ago
...where do you breathe? lol this is awesome :) hope to get good enough to play this, got debutante pretty good, but still got a long way to go :/
GLkamina121 9 months ago
@GLkamina121 you pretty much don't breathe, it's circular breathing all thru out or you're screwed haha
kicksandhorns 9 months ago
@kicksandhorns ... you can do that on a trumpet? hmmm that's probly something i should learn :/ lol
GLkamina121 9 months ago
Ваш на легато, а наш на стаккато. Вот так!
Pomorchik 9 months ago
amazing performance....sergei is the best trompetter ...
kollfred4 9 months ago
SERGEI!!!!!!!!BRAVO!!!!!!
trombonart 9 months ago
just wanted to say --- prefer this one, against Wyntons
ronaldosucks1 9 months ago
Has allen vizutti recorded this?
ronaldosucks1 9 months ago
still think Rafael Mendez tops this....articulation ...not legato
6468792 10 months ago 2
Marsalis...weak.
Easleytee 10 months ago
Who did it first?
victoritoguitar 10 months ago
winton e sergei ambos são do mais alto nive deste estilo
porem o estacato de sargei faz a diferença
Nelson49586 10 months ago 2
@Ggenesis3003 your username is my favorite trumpet ever.
Joshthebandboy 10 months ago
Sergei is netto superior to Marsalis ....dot.....
claudiutzu2001 10 months ago
Sergei is netto superior to Marsalis ....dot.....
claudiutzu2001 10 months ago
There's no comparison at all. Sergio double tongues the entire piece instead of slurring like Winton. Winton is incredible but Sergio is unbelievable!!
GiaAndScott 10 months ago 2
Does they ever take breath?
bunedirbu 10 months ago
does he ever take breath?
bunedirbu 10 months ago
Listen to the piano at 6:15. Frickin' nuts
EvanTempleton 10 months ago
The more I listen, the more I question the ability to double tongue while circular breathing. I will have to try it more I suppose. It just really never occurred to me to try as I find myself focusing much more on the breathing and the notes. I know that Sergei recorded this in sections and Wynton did it all at once which I believe is why he isn't tonguing as much as Sergei. Is it weird that I like fast classical and love jazz but dislike be-bop?
GdoubleE01 10 months ago
@GdoubleE01 more advanced harmonics in bebop
jassfreak87 9 months ago
I keep seeing things being written about the composer's "intent". I didn't know Paganini recorded it. Did he use pro tools?
With most classical music, unless you have a recording of the premiere of the composer's work then who is to say what the composer's intent was? I don't know of a person who has the right to say that an artists interpretation is flawed. Especially with Classical I believe that the soloist should put themselves into a piece.
GdoubleE01 10 months ago
Also it does sound as if Wynton does actually tongue some of the passages and it's not just slurring. It can be very hard to tell when he is tonguing because he is capable of doing it so smoothly that it can sound slurred. Grand Russian fanfare is a good example of the smooth attacks like he is using velvet
GdoubleE01 10 months ago
There is much more dynamic contrast in Wynton's recording as it is incredibly tough to tongue that fast and do it softly. Wynton is able to do some very soft tonguing work by using the back of the tongue, he uses the duh-guh instead of the tu-ku even though he said the duh-guh is slower.
I dont believe anyone has complete mastery of the instrument that Wynton has. Every style and every thing.
GdoubleE01 10 months ago
@GdoubleE01 I agree wholeheartedly. Who has mastered BOTH genres of classical and jazz to the level that Marsalis has? Nakariakov played this well but playing staccato throughout is harsh to my ears.
Tigerwarhawk 6 months ago
Metronome:
Wynton Marsalis 174
Sergei Nakariakov 172
basson111 10 months ago
@basson111
Double tounging:
Sergei YES
Wynton NO
freshhh1994 9 months ago
Metronome 174
basson111 10 months ago
Lepsza wersja Sergieja Nakkariakova:)
kakaboom100 11 months ago
I personally like wyntons better. The slurred version is easier to listen to for four and a half minutes. I dont think sergei did this in one take because its impossible to double tongue and circular breath at the same time...
Ggenesis3003 11 months ago
@Ggenesis3003 No it isnt, I saw this comment on the other video. just because 99 percent of people cant do it doesn't mean that its impossible. It can be done, but it is hard...
KentPVA 10 months ago
@KentPVA I guess that is true, I just dont see how its possible because in order to circular breath you need to close your soft pellet to breath in through your nose, but you cant close it and double tongue because you need it for the "guh" syllable for double tonguing.
Ggenesis3003 10 months ago
¡Como Rafael Méndez no hay dos!
tlatol12345 11 months ago 2
Sergei is always very staccato so never really like his playing :/ technically, they are both brilliant though
MrHarvey17 11 months ago
Sergei's a Fag!!
ainomoadakine 11 months ago
what lung capacity! now that is long winded..
0mikers0 11 months ago
you guys should listen to David Childs play this piece on euphonium. it really is amazing....
mrben772 11 months ago
you cannot definitively say that one is better than the other. they are two very good but different interpretations of the same piece. They're both trying to get something different out of the piece so it is only down to preference rather than actually technically being better.
JimboJohnsy 11 months ago
Marsalis's sound is definately better but Nakariakov's attacks are really clean
972driftking 11 months ago
Marsalis"s sound is definately better but Nakariakov's attacks are really clean
972driftking 11 months ago
Puta que Pariu!!!
ursosupernova 1 year ago
both of them are hardcore.
metalizedfury88 1 year ago
Sergei tongued his notes whereas Wynton did more slurring. Sergei was definitely crisper.
sifupr 1 year ago
eu preferi a versão do Wynton Marsalis pela beleza q ele dá na interpretação da música e pela suavidade de seu som....é claro que Nakariakov é outro gênio e sua interpretação também é fantástica, mas a do Wynton Marsalis tem algo a mais com toda certeza...
vini90trumpet 1 year ago
queda mas bonito picado como lo hace sergey.... pero es mucho mas dificil hacerlo ligado como lo hace marsalis por temas de tecnica..... pero por el simple hecho de estar ahi 4 minutos haciendo el ejercicio ese de respiracion ya tiene su merito... ni uno ni otro, sin duda son dos genios de la trompeta.
dani92sfc 1 year ago
i see Will Smith at 0:26
zethryus 1 year ago
me gusta mas la de Sergei que la de Wynton...
WILE20091 1 year ago
I think what no one seems to realize is that if Rafael Mendez had never recorded this piece we probably wouldn't be having this debate in the first place :).
RichNewnes 1 year ago
I have great respect for both these artists and their renditions of this Paginini piece. That said, I believe that Wynton's accomplishment of playing the full 4 1/2 mins without stopping courtesy of circular breathing is almost god-like! What a test of embouchre strength and endurance not to mention the technical difficulties involved. Of course, I think Rafael's version is also amazing and his tone quality surpasses both even in the most difficult passages. I like Sergei's accents though.
RichNewnes 1 year ago
okay whats circular breathing?
TonyF273 1 year ago
@TonyF273 circular breathing is breathing through the nose while letting air out through the mouth at the same time
ScarecrowVids 1 year ago
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TonyF273 1 year ago
Wynton had a few bad (flat) notes in there not so much in tune
dagclarinet1 1 year ago
@dagclarinet1 I know someone who was in the Eastman Wind Ensemble when Wynton did that recording and he did one practice run with the ensemble and one run to record it. With that in mind, I can forgive a few "flat" notes. Not sure about the other two recordings though.
brasstrekker 1 year ago
@brasstrekker Hey, I just threw that out there to see if anyone was really listening. But of course, Wynton's chops are crazy. Props to him, definitely.
dagclarinet1 1 year ago
@dagclarinet1 i apologize, i didnt mean for that to be an attack on you. but yes, crazy chops.
brasstrekker 1 year ago
@wkedzlie I find quite interesting. I agree with many others and that art at this level is not comparable
overlordspencerman 1 year ago
Wynton did his in segments that were spliced together, so say members of the Eastman Wind Ensemble who did the recording.
rdangelo 1 year ago
Nowadays there are too many computer junkies making beats. All the kid needs is 30 minutes to an hour to practice one specific study on the trumpet and the rest of time building his confidence mentally on that particular for next time.
boricuatrumpet69 1 year ago
Ciculare breathing while tonguing I believe is much difficult because there is that very brief pause of air flow not only that the tongue has to precisely hit at the correct timing. Incredible by both trumpeters. One more thing I highly recommend if you know a child, kid or teenager playing trumpet to encourage them to continue with that depleting art.
boricuatrumpet69 1 year ago
@fuckergen both of them are circular breathers
SUPERasianNINJAsquad 1 year ago
Sergei rules!
vq31206 1 year ago
How many trumpet players does it take to change a lightbulb? Three, one to change it, two to say they could have done it faster and higher.
leninstrumpet 1 year ago 43
@leninstrumpet Same joke, insert guitarists! haha!
ricaard 1 year ago
@ricaard I have heard three very fine performances of Moto Perpetuo on Guitar on you. Ron Lucca being the first ot ever record in on guitar in 1991. Unfortunately his performance on youtude is of the first time he perfromed the piece up to tempo. No incocert perforances hve be published as of yet on you tube.
oldpython 1 year ago
@oldpython no problem on your spelling.. thank you for replying! Bireli Lgrene does three excerpts from Moto on video one in concert, but not the entire composition; it's one of his favorite classical pieces. I love the piece myself, and will attempt to record it this year on acoustic.
ricaard 1 year ago
@oldpython this version is much cleaner than Lucca's, a little more control, although not quite as fast...
Claudio Varravicini...
ricaard 1 year ago
@ricaard my apologies for my lack of typing skills.
oldpython 1 year ago
@leninstrumpet How many trumpet players does it take to change a lightbulb? Just one. He holds it in place and the world revolves around him.
AVeryConcernedSheep 9 months ago
Both remarkable. Like you I prefer the slurred Wynton version tho the tongued version is probably more technically difficult -both versions are children of RM's fantastic recording - how groundbreaking THAT must have been when it was first released!!!
MrPoupard 1 year ago
Honestly, do you think wynton is unable to tongue like sergei? Its just that wynton chooses to slur it. thats all
foodmore 1 year ago
Sergei hands down. Both are great but Sergei is crisper and more controlled, no slurs as with Wynton
BenYoumans 1 year ago
I like Wynton better. But, to both of them: when do they breath????!
yvonnedeinema 1 year ago
staccato
banshee9312 1 year ago
I prefer Wynton;s Version. Seems to demonstrate a little more control.
ewil1219 1 year ago
Sergei 10
Wynton 6
; )
YouKnowIAmRight 1 year ago
6 people don't like astounding music
kerriganspie2 1 year ago
@kerriganspie2 I guess astounding is just too much for some
people to deal with. To me, it's a respite from the mediocrity
that characterizes a lot of todays pop music.
BillC518 1 year ago
Ivan Drago of the trumpet the russian chap!
ronaldosucks1 1 year ago
It's hard to say really. They both used used pretty different styles for this..... both are mind boggling though. :)
B0omtown 1 year ago
Why the vs.? Why the comparation? They are both fantastic. Top marks for both.
kubikpt 1 year ago
To blackguy119, Clifford Brown was not only a great jazz musician but a complete trumpeter who could play Classical music with equal brilliance.The same goes for Booker Little.There's no doubt that they would have played this piece beautifully had they chosen to.I play horn, but only Jazz and I know I'm not technically capable enough to play such a piece, unless I practice it for 40 years.
olivierbarjot 1 year ago
These are nonsence.
Wynton does not circular breath while dobble tonguing.
Sergei does.
Actually Wynton's style is easier than Sergei's.
MrSunofbeach 1 year ago
winton is a jazz master.....
JAZZMANGR 1 year ago
I personally love wyntons sound, but I mean come on, just can't beat Sergei's sick double tonguing circular breath combo :)
redsoxarerockin 1 year ago
Sergei Nakariakov.
Botandcheat 1 year ago
marsalis es un genio
davidtch5 1 year ago
wynton ftw!
Cgolfsoccerguy 1 year ago
Poor Wynton's playing is a monotone...like his jazz playing...Sergei's staccato playing has personality...
radiokid2 1 year ago
Clifford brown would have killed this piece and probably did at home.Booker Little would have too.
olivierbarjot 1 year ago 4
@olivierbarjot Clifford Brown vs Sergei Nakariakov? Who is better at the trumpet? (do not consider the fact that they play different two completely different styles (jazz vs classical))
blackguy119 1 year ago
oh my fucking god.... is that possible!
maynardgravy 1 year ago
how does he circular breath while tonguing...
nocanpau 1 year ago
e la peggiore esecuzione in assoluto ! deve essere tutto staccato con il doppio staccato negrone di merda
nn sai neanche usare il doppio e ti credi chissa chi
quikfelder 1 year ago
Both versions are flawless, however, I'd say that Nakariakov's is somewhat more varied as far as phrasings & dynamics are concerned. The Moto Perpetuo is basically a mundane etude, purely mechanical, designed for spicatto bowing on the violin. In that respect, the Russian's stacco tonguing stands out over the more jazzy, legato style of Marsalis.
Because this devilish little etude is as such, both trumpeters score a 10. As far as real music is concerned, it's like comparing Heifetz to Menuhin.
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
Después de haber escuchado a ambos virtuosos: la ejecución de Winton es extraordinaria, pero la de Sergei es MAGISTRAL, SOLO COMPARADA CON EL VIRTUOSISMO Y MARAVILLA DEL MEJOR TROMPETISTA DE TODOS LOS TIEMPOS, RAFAEL MENDEZ
luigianguiani 1 year ago
There is one huge difference! Wynton is using circular breathing. The Sergei