Nietzsche on Hardship 3 of 3

[Vakrian]

holy hell i just had a eureka moment watching this video

[MissCATNUTS]

fantastic video, i agree with Vls 174 :-p

[maxDSferris]

Anyone who's suffered in life knows that it strengthens but also wares you down and destroys opportunities. We aren't plants or muscles building upon our own selves, we are larger organisms of complexity. Challenges and pain will drive you insane like what happened to Nietzsche, who should of smoked some weed and had some moderation. Fight Club is cool but you can't street fight for real all the time without becoming a brain damaged gimp who can no longer hold his own dick. Grow up motherfuckers

[fexurbis123]

"Nietzsche was interested in making people happy." No pain no gain for the common man!

[toooldtogame75]

So few of you have read Nietzsche! Make your own mind up and be satisfied with your own truth! Arguing the meaning of Nietzsche's works in youtube comments - the irony! A pertinent quote

"My opinion is my opinion: someone else has no casual right to it"—that’s what a philosopher of the future will perhaps say. One must rid oneself of the bad taste of wanting to agree with many."

[Parvenu90]

Wow.

[Renegen1]

Religion is the Opium of the people.

[tigerlovesrupert]

some say Hitler was inspired by Nietzsche, and I must say that the world has become much better after WWII,

after pain and suffering and realizing the truth.

[MrWatchdawg77]

A deep insight into the human condition by a man who got syphilis from a prostitute! Not to take away from his genius, but Nietzsche's ideas are not that original, I'm sure!  No doubt Jesus knew something about suffering!

[Peteromich]

@MrWatchdawg77 Not to take anything away from your intelligence, but when you speak of someone like Nietzsche this way you are like a worm wriggling around in the shadow of an eclipse, puny and insignificant. Advice: you will need to dedicate yourself to grasping the weight of Nietzsche's thought. It takes more than watching silly videos like these on you tube.

[MrWatchdawg77]

@Peteromich Don't take it personal! I'm just saying that there have been many "better" people before Nietzsche who philosophized about suffering and the human condition!

[Peteromich]

@MrWatchdawg77 Sure, so many "better" people have philosophized about suffering. But it was Nietzsche who uncovered the hidden unconscious motivation behind many of these "better" people's philosophical values and morals. It was Nietzsche who demonstrated how Christianity was a "revaluation of all values" hitherto. Nietzsche was able to step beyond the constraint of just one perspective and thus free himself to really Think! Whereas many "better" people never did Think but simply Reacted.

[MrWatchdawg77]

@Peteromich Really?

[Peteromich]

@MrWatchdawg77 Yes, really.

[MrWatchdawg77]

@Peteromich I'm not impressed!

[Peteromich]

@MrWatchdawg77 You're killing me.

[joeglimmix]

muysic at 1:40 is from to catch a predator

[FrenchyDuckbill]

Thank you very much for these, they do much!

[PulpPractical]

What is the name of this wonderful show?

[Bahkti82]

This video is also wrong stating Christianity believes love to be bad...and we Christians believe suffering is good to help one grow and usefull read the book of james here is a small sample...My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

Jas 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

Jas 1:4 But let patience have its complete work, that ye may be fully grown and mature. wanting nothing.

[coxson]

HAPPINESS IS OVERATED.

[FloMonKish]

Not everything that makes us feel good, is actually good for us. Thats what addiction is and its horrible. On the other hand one should not purposefully search for pain as a "vital component" to happiness. Its only a practical mean to feel happiness by the use of contrast. The essential here is that pain can be used as its manifesting, but you should not search for it as that would invalidate the pain as authentic. Which is whats important.

[BadgeringTheWitness1]

the music on this mini-documentary is fantastic.

[partisan49]

very eye-opening video. if only nietzsche knew how much respect he has in this day and age. perhaps this was the fulfillment he always sought, to be known for his philosophy.

[stochastic24]

@partisan49 that is completely incorrect, you should read Nietzsche some time.

[Piitsi]

I love Alain De Bottom but I have to admit he makes psychical activity like climbing a mountain look awesomely awkward. :)

[81stReich]

Actually those Bible quotes can be interpreted in compliance to Nietzsche's philosophy on suffering. I believe he was more disgusted at the church and their manipulative interpretation of the Bible and the populous acting like lemmings when he knew that every human possessed the God given ability to think for oneself. That's where "God is dead and we have killed him" came from. But I'm sure at some point he got over it, the church and all their lies are to be embraced, just like failures.

[1311nonna]

He didn't want to make people happy I agree with vls174. This video is wrong. The whole video is very surfacial.

[cedricklamarpruitt]

I definitely respect the notion of going beyond ones comfortableness. I feel personally that each individual's experiences color our personal philosophies.

[gplus46]

This video is so provocative. Thanks for the upload.

[Blastfimus777]

If there is a God, I tend to the opinion that Nietzsche achieved what he (God) had expected of mankind. If there is no God then all is well likewise.

[blssdfall27]

" God is alive. Nietszche is dead." - Anonymous

[gplus46]

@blssdfall27

And I want to ensure "God" is alive in me.

[scarwarsnow]

@blssdfall27 This is not anonymous, its a quote on nietszche's page on uncyclopedia(dot)wikia(dot)com

[dumbzebra]

@blssdfall27 and you think that´s clever?

[blssdfall27]

@dumbzebra I just saw that posted on the wall of one of the famous university here in our country. Yes, I think it's clever, educated people still believes in God. Just being sarcastic man.

[Musketman007]

@blssdfall27 It's supposed to be,

"God is dead." -Nietzsche 1887

"Nietzsche is dead." -God, 1901

[niteddy1]

Excellent Series!!! Love it!

[oggfish]

Comfort= passiveness= making humans into robots= keeping the system unchanged= destroying the planet

[suicidephukkem]

Yeah I don't really associate Nietzsche with nihilism. The teachings of Schopenhauer and maybe even Leopardi is more in tune with nihilism.

[fltrekjc]

never trust in those who punish to get what they want, usually those are losers

[fltrekjc]

@fltrekjc religion is the biggest show of cowardy ever invented by humanity. stupid to the extreme and false, let's say idiots are religious people. "the cause" is just an invention yes it hurts to know but is not wse to go against nature, and religion goes. cowards shitfucks who only attack t get what they want because they can't otherway because they are lies, that's why the narciccism and angryness. nature gave us tools to be happy and never idiots some better than others. religion is 4 losrs

[gplus46]

@fltrekjc

I thin its interesting that there are similarities in Nietsche and Christianity. The Bible has quotes e.g. Count it all joy when you fall into diverse temptations..." then it goes on a tangent. It clearly recognizes the virtue in suffering, and it's interesting that they have ultimately waged war on the source of this virtue.

[vls174]

2.

And that is the goal Nietzsche purpose us to have. To become fearless and creative beings, without anything to hold us, to always be able to overcome ourselves and improve, to create the new, to changer the world, to live for something bigger than ourselves.

[ragnarok9899]

@vls174

...and consequently, feel fulfilled, and thus, happy?

Just curious. I don't know very much at all about Nietzsche, but it would seem that happiness is almost necessarily a byproduct of what you described.

[vls174]

1.

There is a huge distortion of information in this video. Nietzsche was not interested in making people happy by any means. This is absurd. Nietzsche condemn the cheap selfish of happiness, he didn't want to make people happy, he wanted to elevate people, by endure, to make their reach new levels of creativity, courage, perception. Nietzsche served a greater purpose than egotistic self care. He served the purpose of improve humanity by raising our goals to infinity.

[juliancochran]

@vls174 I'm not sure about a "huge" distortion. I think the presenter recognised this and used 'happiness' with a different ideology. Clearly going to church or drinking beer makes one happy and the presenter had made it clear that Neitzsche condemned that kind of happiness. All your words don't look as a contradiction to the video and moreover he got the spirit of his thinking across better than a lot of others try.

[veso5554]

@vls174 You can interpret his philosophy as a redefinition of happiness. I think this is what the documentary was trying to say .

[unfad1ng]

@vls174

well i would be pretty happy if my goals were infinite and if i reached new levels of creativity and courage

[Macleod843]

@vls174 happiness, when understood in terms of comfort and petty fulfillment, yes... but not eudaimonic happiness, flourishing and success.

[Davincidz]

@vls174 Well that is sort of the conclusion of this video... TRUE happiness lies in the real accomplishments. So in that sense Nietzsche did indeed want people to be happy, but rather that they should earn it.

Nietzsche didn't try to teach us to embrace pain and live like emos, he wanted us to accept pain as a stepping stone towards our goals, a step that could not be skipped. so in that sense, yes he did want to make humanity better which means happy, if not his work would have been of no value

[birkuscircus]

This was interesting. And I very much agree with the views contained in this program.  Thanks for the upload. :)

[hunyuanqi]

Thank you.

[takepills]

The religion of comfortableness. Small needy people hiding in forests like shy deer.

[enzothebaker9]

@takepills You completely misunderstand F.N. You are not clever, you are not intelligent. You parrot what you think the intelligensia say to try and seem "smart". F.N. was not against Christianity but what Christianity offered. F.N. was also against alcohol for the same reason. Do you drink? Do you rage against alcohol the same way you rage against religion? Your name is "takepills." Do you use drugs recreationally. Then you are exactly what FN found so disdainful. Hate yourself. I hate you.

[Konstantinos6147]

@takepills

[ElysianFields100]

@takepills

"... he's thinking of something richer than the sort of cozy well-being we might imagine. He writes sarcastically about people who are addicted to the religion of comfortableness. He calls them small [mean] people hiding in forests like shy deer".

Is the quote by 'PhilosophicalMedia' unless another meaning was intended by using the word 'needy' instead of 'mean'.

A very nice MV in just 3 segments tyvm.

[takepills]

problems are assets!

[SuperAlexrios]

nietzche never look for happiness thats his greatest gift to humankind when people look for happiness they become neurotic happiness is vulgar

[enzothebaker9]

Really? Neitzsche "invented" not looking for happiness? How is that even possible?

But I'll play devil's advocate, let's say he somehow did "invent" not looking for happiness. Well then what's his legacy?

A culture that lives in a hedonistic perpetual present? A culture whose only aim is self-gratification. A culture that is...vulgar?

According to your measure of the man, he is a complete failure.

The only thing Neitzsche ever did was project his own neuroses on other people.

[SuperAlexrios]

I guess i was misunderstood It is very easy to be happy you need very little to it but is that the real purpose of life? I dont think so >sometimes happiness becomes an obsticle for the ultimate goal

[enzothebaker9]

What's "the ultimate goal"?

[SuperAlexrios]

to overcome yourself and that is really painfull

[enzothebaker9]

What does that mean? "To overcome yourself." How can you overcome yourself?

[SuperAlexrios]

look in the mirror the house of deceive .Your ego

[enzothebaker9]

That is exactly what Neitschze was arguing AGAINST.

You no idea what you're talking about.

[SuperAlexrios]

what i said ispure nietczhe philosopy he wants u to get out of your confort zone ,be passionated ,put your life at the edge for an ideal,if it is possible provocate your own death for a cause ,Are u able to do that? I dont think so cause you are trapped by your instincs,your low ego.Thats why u prefer to look for happiness and be another pussy like anybody else

[enzothebaker9]

You English is horrible. I cant talk to you.

[SuperAlexrios]

so you give up

[Dimefan91]

You have completely misunderstood Neitzsche. His philosophy revolves around the pursuit of happiness, but in a different way than most other philosophers. The struggle through hardships and the success that may follow are the keys to happiness.

[SuperAlexrios]

in one of his writings he said "i wish all the pain,humilliation and the suffering of the world for u because that is the only way to become a real man ' nietzche philosophy is for warriors not for little women looking for happiness and nothing is more far from his phil.osophy than expecting success Obviously u waste your time reading his books go and look for cinderella tales so u can be happy

[enzothebaker9]

SuperAlexrios, there is nothing super about you. You are a loser who listens to metal, pretentiously describes himself as following kabalah, has an over-inflated and delusional view of hisself, and a dismissive, arrogant, and, given who you are, completely unwarrented sense of superiority over others. You cant even speak English properly. What have you done with your life? What do you do for work? Besides antagonizing a bunch of people on youtube board, what great things have you accomplished?

[enzothebaker9]

Do you know it is forbidden for a non-Jew to learn Kabbalah, or Torah? But dont let that stand in the way of creating a "person-hood" for yourself. You're as shallow and empty as your ideas. Just loud. No substance.

[enzothebaker9]

Are you kidding me? I have misunderstood? You're the one who doesn't understand. For Neitszche

"The discipline of suffering, of great suffering — do you not know that only this discipline has created all enhancements of man so far? That tension of the soul in UNHAPPINESS which cultivates its strength."(emphasis added; BGE 225; cf. BGE 270)

Does that sound like "pursuit of happiness" to you! Neitschze sought a sort of excellence in a man, and not a happiness.

[SuperAlexrios]

so finally u agree with me .why it took u so long

[mikeisapro]

@enzothebaker9 "A culture that lives in a hedonistic perpetual present? A culture whose only aim is self-gratification. A culture that is...vulgar?" That is quite the opposite, he was a progressive, not exactly an advocate of the status quo

[Peteromich]

@mikeisapro Nietzsche was a progressive? The same Nietzsche who saw in the modern idea of progress many of the same faults as he did in Christianity? Indeed, as being the direct inheritor of these faults? To reiterate, indignantly, Nietzsche was a progressive?

[LoveHeartLogicHead]

[1/2]

Neitzsche:

* Loses his father, a minister, at four years old. His first financial saving is to inscribe his father's grave with a bible quote;

* Signs his name anti-Christ in a church book. Why go?;

* Tells the world to toughen up and embrace life's hardships rather than avoid them via religion (as one of many examples);

* Is buried next to his dad within the grounds of a church;

So that I don't come off as some sort of "mighty defender of religion", allow me to clarify something.

[LoveHeartLogicHead]

[2/2]

I am equally okay with religious individuals as what I am with atheists as what I am with agnostics etc. I've been in intense discussions with a wide range of individuals from the Abrahamic faiths, from Eastern faiths, Atheism, Agnosticism, Paganism, you name it.

The point I'm making here is: actions speak louder than words.

[enzothebaker9]

How dare you look at the man behind the curtain. Subscribe to the standard interpretation of events and ideas. Your ideas cant be reduced to a cliched slogan or simplified to a hackneyed phrase so they are useless us who want our philosophies and sensibilities pre-packaged, and easily consumable. In short, its wholely unmodern. For shame.

[LoveHeartLogicHead]

To enzothebaker9

:)

Regards,

Tom.

[qaplatlhinganmaH]

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." Thomas Jefferson

"The authors of the gospels were unlettered and ignorant men and the teachings of Jesus have come to us mutilated, misstated and unintelligible." Thomas Jefferson

It is not to be understood that I am with him [Jesus] in all his doctrines. I am a Materialist. Thomas Jefferson

"Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies." Thomas Jefferson

[enzothebaker9]

You have a whole list dont you. You're the biggest Thomas Jefferson fan Ive ever met. LMAO. Alright buddy, you win.

[qaplatlhinganmaH]

"The hocus-pocus phantasy of a God, like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and thousands of martyrs." Thomas Jefferson, third President of the USA

[qaplatlhinganmaH]

Thomas Jefferson's letter to William Short

"As you say of yourself, I TOO AM AN EPICUREAN. I consider the genuine doctrines of Epicurus as containing everything rational in moral philosophy which Greece and Rome have left us. Epictetus, indeed, has given us what was good of the Stoics" Thomas Jefferson

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." Thomas Jefferson

[enzothebaker9]

Oh, you have a Thomas Jefferson quote. Well then, I guess that settles it. Oh by the way, since we're on the subject of perverted systems, can you dig me up a quote on T.J.'s views on slavery, and raping his slaves? Because I know Christ said that "Whatsoever you do unto the least of your brethren you do unto me." Hmmmm, maybe Jefferson was the perverted one. Nevermind.

[enzothebaker9]

And by the way, the last quote that you attribute to Thomas Jefferson, wasnt said by Thomas Jefferson at all. It's always the stupidest people who are the most arrogant and pretentious. You would have to be, to believe you have all the answers.

Go google some more quotes. See if you cant find what Thomas Jefferson said on people who get their information from television, advertising agencies, and the internet.

[arkvoldthebonecrushe]

If your understanding is the bible a book which approves of medieval brutality and barbarism ie stoning people who mock your false deity then wow how clever.

Christianity was a vermin disease that infected and crippled the Roman Empire, bastardized Greek Philosophy and Stoicism and poisoned the minds of countless generations and caused dozens of fruitless wars. It destroys culture and society just like Communism and reduces civilization to barbarism.

[enzothebaker9]

Your understanding of language and history is just as piss poor as your understaning of philosophy. I was wrong when I called you a glorified school boy. You dont sound educated at all.

The internet does give people like you a forum to voice half-brained world-views. You would not be taken seriously by any university, or academic, or anyone for that matter who has the least bit of sense. Does that bother you?

Secular Europe is crumbling. Is Christianity still your scapegoat?

[arkvoldthebonecrushe]

I think what you mean to say is Atheism is your scapegoat to support degenerate superstitions. No academic would take me seriously? I am not the one who believes that a man lived in a whale for 3 days, a man died rose from the dead and then went up into heaven or some how walked on water and brought others back from the dead or cured the blind. People who go for that the majority are nit wit peons.

[arkvoldthebonecrushe]

Your a Muslim ant you. I see it now. Your fake god allah is actually a pre Islamic Moon deity and the false prophet muhammad had sex with little jew girls.

Most Muslim states under Shariah law dong even allow women to take advanced courses. Muslims treat their women like animals. In a way Islam is a even bigger joke then Christianity it is complete pedophillic trash.

I dont have to be concerned with you. After all you actually believe in a stone age superstition.

[arkvoldthebonecrushe]

enzothebaker please find some TNT and go blow yourself and your inbrad muzzie family up at the nearest American embassy. Thanks. Just think of the 77 virgins.

[arkvoldthebonecrushe]

I think I saw Jesus once in my life. I saw him walking down the road into a gay bar.

[enzothebaker9]

What does that even mean? Are you trying to get under my skin? How can someone so immature even pretend to have access to any understanding. Or maybe that's just it: only someone as immature and stupid as you would believe they're somehow special and brilliant.

You are a ridiculous caricature of someone trying to be bright by immitating a distinguished philosopher. You want approval, and acceptance. You're nothing more than a glorified school-boy. And you're only an ordinary jack-ass.

[arkvoldthebonecrushe]

Religion is the opium of the people.

[enzothebaker9]

What a trite thing to say. The opium of the people is trite expressions: or more precisely, that anybody on the internet has access to understanding by simple spitting out a few recycled pop-isms. Did you miss the bit about Neitchze's disdain of alcohol? Do you drink? why not opium is the opium of the people. Nevermind. You will never know. You're a dumb jackass. So go on demonizing Christianity, you parrot. I mean you jack-ass.

[arkvoldthebonecrushe]

enzothebaker9 you by some chance British, if so, then no surprise to me. The the dried up dead beet name calling and trivial comeback is but opinion.

Speaking of drugs what are you on some cocaine you junkie.

How does what I say seems has grasping at straws. Its Christian hillbilly trash that point finger at the failed notions of equality.

Dont bother commenting back it want be read.

[SuperAlexrios]

as nietzcshe said happiness is for the ordinary happiness is vulgar actually to be happy you just need to be near-stupid or if not full time stupid

[chrispollock]

and yet happiness is the only important thing. all else is to that end. i'd give up all knowledge for ignorance so as to be happy. i wish i could cut knowledge out of my head with a scalpel

[comanderfrowny]

the religion of comfortableness.

[enzothebaker9]

Comfortableness? Christianity is the hardest thing a man can commit himself to. The only thing comfortable is your smug sense of superiority. You really only come across as another manufactured psuedo-intellectual: a barely living, barely breathing patische of slogans, outdated ideas, and liberal progressive tyranny. You're part of that group of self-professed disaffected loners, and rogue thinkers--and there are a millions of versions of you. Very unindividual.

[arkvoldthebonecrushe]

English nothing more but bastardized Frisian. Edward III only saw it as a means to swore and cuss with. No Chaucer, and the USA President and Congress leaders would be using Norman French and the US Constitution would probably be in Latin or some slightly Anglonized French.

Your pitiful beliefs mean nothing to me Christian scum. Nero found use out of Christians by hanging there corpses up a Lanterns. You see even trash can have a purpose.

[comanderfrowny]

haah! i only just realised he was a Christian! i just think its funny that he assumed i was attacking christianity. i said the religion of comfortableness, wouldn't you assume I'm talking about a religion revolving around comfort? where does christianity come into this in a discussion about happiness? god, im glad im not asking enzo this, we would probably get the most irritating answer conceivable to man.

[enzothebaker9]

If knew what your question was, or what you re trying to say, I may want to

[enzothebaker9]

give you an irritating answer, pokemon. Go catch 'em all.

[comanderfrowny]

i was only trying to say that you cant just value what makes you happy. and there is nothing wrong with knowledge, just avoid insisting its the truth. i was really only trying to highlight some parallels with what he is saying to a small part of the video he just watched. your comment is a fair criticism of a lot of people - hilariously probably your-self. i've hardly said anything to warrant your self important dick swinging contest.

[lovingfatalist]

"Zarathustra is a sceptic" (Antichrist, 54).

Botton's philosophy-of-the-will interpretation here is one-sided and perhaps pernicious, because it sidesteps Nietzsche's central concept of intellectual integrity.

Too many self-proclaimed 'Nietzscheans' are actually just dogmatists and romantics.

[PhilosophicalViking]

Fantastic synopsis of Nietzsche philosophy !

[Shinkatana420]

happy people become slaves..

they have no desire to change anything or even the will.

happiness is a dellusion for the sheep.

it's like when a man says "no" he gains the strength of 2 men.

if you dont understand,then its not for u.

[2warNINg]

god the fuckin church are such tyrants, only people who are asleep believe in christanity as it is thought by the vatican. The Pope is a mere title, hes only a man in a dress. People who disagree or become upset with that are so because im undermineing their belife which is a threat to them.

[Allocator2008]

I love how relevant this is. I went through some really tough times, and am sorry to say I turned to booze as a way of handling it. And my religious relatives tried to get me to turn from booze and "find religion" instead. This shows that both I and my religious relatives were misguided. Burying problems with booze is not the answer, nor is retreating into the false comfort of religion. The only thing to do is to create something great out of the energy of pain. Still working on that, lol.

[stellarson]

I find it interesting that this sort of way Nietzsche had is the way of those who practice kung fu; you have no idea how painful a true shaolin horse stance can be and you have no idea how much power you gain from it; then again, maybe some of you do know what i'm talking about

[alleyghost]

No, they don't care.

Another day perhaps...

[ashtongrist]

So he's a coke loving t-totalist.? People care about this because?

[lTHRICEl]

Have you even read his work?

[FighterInTheShadow]

Beautiful philosophy.

[MultiKurda]

amizing philosopher, and bruliant presentation.thank you.

[emeralds222]

Thank you for posting these videos. I am learning much  :)

[szaki]

No pain, no gain!

[BookCollector100]

Life is full of hardship (on commenting the hardship videos).

We argue with those we love over silly matters, that seem so drastic at the time.

When nothing is truly important in this life and world, its only as important as we make it to be, in which its made important.

[SBRslacker00]

"That which does not kill me makes me stronger."

I've never been able to accept this concept. Maybe I'm arguing semantics. Maybe the term "kill" is being used for effect or maybe lost in context or translation. Spiritual "strength"?!

It seems to dismiss too many things which can critically undermine a man's life, leaving a life weak. It almost sounds like a religious argument along the same vein as quotes from the video, "The meek shall enherit the earth".

Maybe he was just rationalizing.

[Celips777]

I take it to mean; that which does not overcome me, I overcome, thus becoming stronger. However if you have a "bad" experience, the consequences of which you cannot deal with, then ofcourse you do not become a stronger person.

[SBRslacker00]

Thanks for the reply. If that's what he meant, then it's easier to comprehend.

Temporary or negligible suffering is something most of us gladly endure if there's a promise for a greater reward. Thing is, it's not always a reasoned trade. Suffering is a price we pay for life, be shrewd.

I didn't mean to imply that I disagreed with Nietzche, just that I didn't understand. I'm not sure why I always get thumbed down without people responding to why they dislike my comment. I must have trolls.

[Celips777]

In response to your thoughts. I would like to say that I belive there to be a path in life that runs higher and beyond the suffering/pleasure complex. In short; mans cognitive structure is so constituted that we are "aware of being aware". This is the root of abstract thought which enabales to think in negative terms, this also creates a natural "inbalance". As the buddhist say, "life is suffering". But it can be overcome. All esoteric practices, both east and west, aim towards this attainment.

[cantavoidtrite]

De Botton is so easy to listen to...so unobtrusive. I love these documentaries. Thank you.

[Krahl123]

"the known anti-christ" lol.

[gerbrandt92]

Dies anybody know the name of the song playing in the background while the presenter is climbing the mountain and in the end of this video?

[sylvestermeow]

And so unfortunately, there is a great deal of serious misery in the world that is absolutely meaningless to the sufferer. I think the meaning rather falls to the oppressor, in those cases.

[pecierpoldo]

And Nietzsche's main message to his readers is that they learn ways to turn all these indeed meaningless suffering into the ingredients of a colorful life.

[sylvestermeow]

good comments. I'm just turning on to Nietzsche: rather afraid of what I'd find. Hardship is right up my alley. Some of us try to find meaning in it, through it. I sought tough paths, but not as tough as N.'s. His view on drinking is stern; and I think it is up to the individual to decide what drinking is doing. The same for living alone, being spartan. If deprivation contributes to understanding, this would be desirable. Misery with no meaning is nonsense.

[spinmonkey4401]

"Misery with no meaning is nonsense." Excellent! That's the best line to some it all up.

[porov]

very well put my friend.

[gilc7540]

nietzesche's a genius

[Vergilius07]

You got completly right PsychedelicVideos The pre-socratien greeks are one of his big examples !

Heraclitus, Diogenes, The playwriters Aeschylus Sophokles ( not Euripides !) Homer etc. So if u saw that just watching this docu, you should read his boks, you will understand him verry quick

[PsychedelicVideos]

His philosophy was very alike to that of the Greek Cynical Philosophers.

People like Diogenes.

[dylanvalente]

Good stuff. Don't know about the alcohol part, though. The occasional drink or two with a nice meal can be a wonderful thing. You can still face the pain the next day, you're just taking a break.

[Throred]

Part 1.

I questioned the alcohol part aswell.

If the motivation behind drinking is to escape some pain I agree with his view. But speaking for myself, when I take a few beers with some friends, my motivation is to simply have a fun night.

One could argue that I'm still going to escape whatever pain I have, and yes sure thats true.

But so does an afternoon nap. Your motivation is to sleep because you're tired, so you take a nap. Yet you escape the pain..

[Throred]

I guess one could argue that artificially increasing your "happiness level" is bad for you in the long term. So . . . hm.

[Throred]

Part 2.

Shouldn't the motivation behind the act nap/a few beers be considered important aswell?.

Compared to only the consequenses?

I hope I made my point clear.

[avukiran]

Could some one tell me who composed the soundtrack at the end of the story when Alain Botton starts climbing ???

[csnc82]

It's interesting how in the last two decades people have been analizing Nietzsche's words and using them in a whole new way to respond to a world that seems to be about to collapse.

[444DeanMachine]

ah that made me smile/laugh when he showed the burial records and it said "the known Anti-Christ,

haha take that religion!

[LvDaMuzic]

If Nietzche an antichrist, I'm a proud antichrist. i'm happy to stay away from the drug of religion.

[TURNTOCHRIST]

You have demon posession

[ytzuigt]

I've read all of Nietzsche's works, they are without doubt the most beautiful intellectual discovery in my life, but I have a completely different view of him as a person and as a philosopher. Some things in this documentary I can agree with, but generally it's absolutely false. De Botton completely misunderstands the figure: Nietzsche often made a distinction between academic philosophers(like De Botton) and philosophers. You can never understand him if you're not both, or at least the latter.

[swiftisti]

What are your arguments? I am interested in what points do you disagree with De Botton's interpretation.

[robbflynncs]

Just like religion, inner struggle should become personal. Fuck the war.

[thisisitornot]

I think a glass of stout would have done him some good. Really.

[repetitionriot]

why do you think a glass of stout would have done him good?

[fntime]

Because stout is a cheap anti axiety drug. Although I agree with him that comfort's man's enemy, prevents us from fulfilling our destiny. Life shouldn't always be a chore & stout will relax your body & mind,if only momentarily,without causing you to fall into a 'maze of delusion'. Lighten up, thinking guys!You think too much,thinking can also be delusional. Suggestion, have some sex, it will connect you to life and often lack of sex, causes many to be philosphers.

[fntime]

I agree! Deluding oneself with alcohol, religion or intellectualization, is not

a good or successful stradegy..

but lifting a couple of brews with good friends, can give us a momentary respite from

life's sadness.

And maybe this can prevent the 'mental illness' that often afflicts those who spend

too much time in their head.

Life like the preverbial glass is either half

empty or half full, sometimes putting our

nose to life's grindstone, only leaves us with

a bloody nose.

[sheepwshotguns]

cant really blame the guy for dieing lonely when he's being labeled a "known anti-christ". wow...