Oprah's Irrational Religion - Part 1/3

[godwithme777]

cousinsai HIS AUTHORITY IS HIS FATHER'S GOD THE CREATOR. TO BELIEVE IS TO BE ENDOWED WITH ADOPTION BY GOD. THIS PLANET IS ONE OF A GREAT DECEPTION, AND PRISON BY LUCIFER. JESUS CHRIST CAME TO RESCUE, WHICH ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS TO BELIEVE UPON HIM AND THE FATHER, TO CONFESSS WITH THE MOUTH THAT JESUS IS THE SAVIOR, GOD. THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL ONE HAVE A NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND WILL BE REGENERATED TO THE ORIGINAL GENOME OF ADAM BEFORE THE FALL. THIS IS A TRUTH IN ONLY THE KJV, REPENT

[capereyda]

I suppose the belief that a man was born of a virgin, raised people from the dead, died and rose from the dead is less ridiculous than Oprah's belief system... btw that can apply to more than Jesus of Nazareth

[godwithme777]

@capereyda your logic is based on material science If God can make a DNA blueprint and voice it into material biology, and make one human cell contain billions upon billions of components one of which is a bacterial flagellum that is an electric motor spinning 100,000 rpm, and reverses it'self at the same rpm (has a rotor, stator drive shaft u joint and propeller), why can't what you scoff at be so impossible. you and bill mahr don't know god obviously, but I know my Father, and what He can do

[capereyda]

@godwithme777 postulate a hypothesis within the framework of accepted theoretical models which already explain the phenomena in question by which said deity does what you say it does and I will consider your hypothesis plausible. You will be unable to do so... no one is able to do so because divine intervention is by definition an absurd concept (that's why you need FAITH to believe it happens)

[Cousinsjay]

What is he talking about?!

[Cousinsjay]

What's your authority Dr.!??

[korbotch]

@Cousinsjay The Bible.....

[jhall258]

What are words? symbols that we can understand? They never completely represent the concepts that they name, and yet you preachers worship the words, and not their true essence. You worship Jesus, but defy his message. Didn't he preach against the religion of his time, and yet you built something just as superficial to replace it with.

[jhall258]

Because I am born into a certain faith, it must be the only truth!

I use my brain to listen to my preacher.

I know the truth because I went to bible college to be completely brainwashed and it worked. Brilliant!

If you are a true shepard, pass the staff because you are doing your flock harm.

[RealityofThings]

The human race has been arguing about the nature of God for ever. Is it many Gods or is it one God etc. Well now it is The New Age idea wich in fact is very very Old Age. Who knows the truth. Not me. I would like to, but no God or Jesus or Angels have ever spoke to me as so many claim, so i still don't KNOW THE TRUTH. One thing i do know is that the New Age religion just like all other religions will ultimately divide the people. Soon Christians will throw New Agers to the Lions. Peace to all

[MTBeers101]

Why do people continuously try to argue religion? It cannot be done. Religion is whatever you want it to be.

For instance his remark "[Religion] is rational. It is the use of reason under the authority of God's revelation"

This is statement assumes that the belief of god and his doctrine are inherent. Which are irrational assumptions. His statement is flawed. That would be like saying, Werewolves exist because there are full moons. It assumes the premise of his argument.

[eisenhowernixon]

Great academic instruction!

I pictured Oprah as the "new" girl with the umbrella on the Morton Salt box. The

"new" box label reads, "I'm in love with The New Age Movement: sprinkle some of these "doctrines of seducing-spirit crystals" containing a little buddhism, kabbalah, hinduism, self-help, pantheism, eastern mysticism, etc., into your mind and you will have arrived."

Since most people think of hell in their inner real of consciousness their destination becomes obvious!

[JoseProkof]

This guy is nuts and is only proving that he got hurt in the EGO Eckhart and Oprah talked about in the program. Rather than disproving it man, you're proving how right Echkart is.

[denisetierney]

as for the video above. i don't think that preaching is the answer.

[denisetierney]

it seems that there is a lot of hate going round and it seems to come from the bible. what are all you people trying to prove. that one is right and the other is wrong. we are all here to learn about diferent things. this could means religion or other wise. their is only true love in respecting other peoples views. this also means not putting each other down. we are all god and not sperate from the whole. the bible is only one book in the book of life. read many!

[pwiattitto]

well said

[sandroeleven]

Christ is equal with God John 10:30/ Phil 2:5 Christ is not equal with God John 14:28/ Matt 24:36 Jesus was all-powerful Matt 28:18/ John 3:35

 Jesus was not all-powerful Mark 6:5 It was lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death John 19:7 It was not lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death John 18:31 Children are punished for the sins of the parents Ex 20:5 Children are not punished for the sins of the parents Ezek 18:20

All in my paper.

[PhoenixChampion]

Lol...booooy you so feeeble minded...and at 30 yrs of age. S'all good though. It's obvious you don't read much, so you think you know a lil bit bout a lot. Ay, you won shawtay, you know what God really meant better than He did...hail tha 30 yr old wise man....lol...God bless...

~Champion

[sandroeleven]

yea lets choose a dumb ass who calls himself champion, can't speak english (probably a kid) and probably has NO degree but relies on a book without PROOF....The bible actually allows us to beat our slaves...I love that verse.

[PhoenixChampion]

LOL...don't front cuz ya age don't much ya wisdom SHAWTAY! LOL. I'm done with you though because you are sooo feeble minded it is disgusting...too bad I wont be judged on my english (which americans don't speak properly anyway), but "you" shall be judged by the Word that you reject with a whole heart. LOL...I would say that I will see you at tha crosswords, but there's only one road to Life, and at this rate you'll be on tha wide road to destruction. LOL...know the Word. God bless.

[PhoenixChampion]

Spread the Truth my friend. Tell them to know the Word, for this is the love of man that he keeps the commandments of God who loved us, sending His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, that we may obtain eternal life through Him.

~Champion

[royaltelephone]

i'm really glad this guy is delving into this, what his saying is so true, all of oprah's self help faith based things are just a random combination of ideas and theories, and they are completly self - involved

[biblefarce]

I think it s funny a christian can call a relion irrational..

[PhoenixChampion]

Religion is but manmade and is earthly. God's Word is spirit and need no religion. Oprah is just another example of how easy it is to come up with a religion...the word christian was created for categorizing those who worshipped the Son of God. Man made it a religion. God needs no religion. Spread the truth of the Word. God bless.

~Champion

[sandroeleven]

"Religion is but manmade and is earthly. God's Word is spirit and need no religion"

Is that why its full of dos and dont's?

[PhoenixChampion]

LOL...dos and donts huh? Maybe sin and righteousness. To be honest, His commandments till you what to do and what not to do because it exposes SIN. The Commandments are G.O.D. breathe shawtay. But ey...you got free will to do whateeeeva you want, but the Lord urges you to flee from sin. Resist the devil and he'll flee from you...playa playa....okay....ya next question?

[sandroeleven]

"dos and donts huh? Maybe sin and righteousness"

hahaha you obviously DO NOT read the bible. You worship a god that wanted people stoned for the dumbest things. Who doesnt know when he is coming back, who punished man b/c of a talking snake and then tortures them for eternity....how fun christianity is

[PhoenixChampion]

Lol...you are an idiot, and again...at the hailing age of 30. God told man that "if" they ate from that tree of knowledge, they would die. Ain't my fault they at from tha tree, but they did. That's like you sayin, "I got arrested cuz my friend hand hydro in his car, but I wasn't smokin it." I bet you think tha cops dumb too. Turns out shawtay, you are the fool, inevitable. I suppose you'll find out in due time...lol...if you last that long....God bless...

~Champion

[sandroeleven]

God told man that "if" they ate from that tree of knowledge, they would die" Really. I am the idiot for believing in a 2000 year old book. Do you believe in Santa and the easterbunny too?What about krishna.. HAHAHA YOU are the feeble minded ass. Do you even know what the word means...playa playa..lol

[ragenut2112]

ALL Religious beliefs are no more or no less irrational than the rest

[Millipedecult]

Also how do i join oprahs religion?

[Millipedecult]

why is her beliefs irrational simply by comparing it to the bible? You can see the blatant irrationality, and vulgarity of the bible by flipping into any book.

[fuuunnnn]

Isa 2:6-12 LORD, you have abandoned your people, the descendants of Jacob, because they are filled with (Eastern influences.) They are fortunetellers like the Philistines, and they make deals with foreigners.

Their land is filled with silver and gold, and there is no end to their treasures. Their land is filled with horses, and there is no end to their chariots.

Their land is filled with idols, and they worship what their hands have shaped and what their fingers have molded. cont...

[sandroeleven]

There is no way to know that xtianity is real the bible is full of contradictions and has has 100 versions

[PhoenixChampion]

Lol...where's the contradiction shawtay...LOL...I gotta hear this! I hear eeeeybody talkin bout how contradictive tha Word is and all'at nonsense....but nobody ever actually gives account of the contradiction or where to find it in this Good Book. Lol...please enlighten me with your earthly knowledge if you don't mind...

[sandroeleven]

r u kidding me? They are all over YT. 'Bible contrdiction'. They give chapter and verse. Further more a god so sends himself to earth to die says he's coming back but doesnt know when, sounds like a contra to me.

[PhoenixChampion]

LOLOL...you are toooo funny.  You still haven't given me ANY clear contradiction playa! But don't stress it tho...nobody really succeeds in that feat shawtay...but to clear ya nose up...the Lord said, no one know's when I will return but the Father...meaning G.O.D. Ok...so, what else do you want tha Word to prove? LOL.

[mastersteve22]

Listen to your heart. God is not jealous, angry, and he doesn't "need" us. The problem with these power mongering preachers, is that they "need" to place fear in the hearts and minds of people in order for them to reign. Your reign is OVER, you will be humiliated very soon, but this is okay, because the so called "evil lightworkers" will love you anyway.

[Kiwideano]

Christians are now becoming the pagans of the modern world. Especially when they believe the world is only 6000 years old and that a book written by men 150 years after Jeusus died is the meaning of life and our existence, kind of primitive really.

[stevemjb]

The "loosening" of christianity is the only reason why christians are able to function as - sort of - civilized people.

Nice tie, dork.

[visualvirtue]

Oprah's fellow church member and favorite candidate believes in the same noncommittal philosophy.

[tubab1]

Christianity is blatant sun worship based on astrological principles, why else do Christians adopt the fish as their symbol? The age Jesus lived in was the period of Pisces symbolised by the fish.

[errefd]

The new age movement is no more dangerous than other bullshit like.......say......Christiani­ty or Islam and all the rest of that shit.

[BellaChanson]

LOL...that's not a belief.....you just are....do you think planets and stars have beleifs? they just are...and they are on their destiny being pulled by gravity or being born and dying and whatnot...just doing what they do...we can live without believing in christianity trust me.

[BellaChanson]

I'd bet a million dollars he voted for bush

[sandroeleven]

true true and doesnt even see the contradiction. Jokers

[meadowsmay1130]

the devil said that he was like God, and that is exactly what oprah is teaching.

[notthatsinner]

Your God abadons good people those are not christan. Your God is evil.

[bigjuicy91288]

He doesnt abandon good people he has given hope to all a chance to repent of their sins and live according to his word he sent his son to die for us and our sins and if u choose not to accept it then that is yur choice

[ronoc9]

The video you showed was bias. If you watch the entire video, it's the same propaganda stuff as this vid. The vid was using propaganda, and ur just using this, but not saying that Bible bashers did it. You're leading people on to believe this is the real statements.

[russelelane]

The Trinity, atonement and any type of communion ritual are very mystical and irrational. They are accepted and believed on faith and feeling.

[russelelane]

Brother,

Religion (including my Christianity) by its nature is irrational. Faith comes by feeling and experience. An unbias anaylsis of history shows that our Jesus is one of a long line of Suns/Sons of God, born of a virgin, was baptized and resurrected.

[philjdaniels]

Oprah - that Anti-Christ spreading New Age teachings! We hate her! Crucify her!!!

Jesus - that Anti-Moses spreading New Age teachings! We hate him! Crucify him!!!

And they say: HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF!

[OutrLiimitz]

Oprah - that Anti-Christ spreading New Age teachings! We hate her! Crucify her!!!

Jesus - that Anti-Moses spreading New Age teachings! We hate him! Crucify him!!!

And they say: HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF!

[panzer4u]

Heres a thought..instead of using obviously biased resources, try something CRAZY! Read the book! Of course that would be too "new age". By the way I love the implication of religion being rational. Thats just too funny.

[TheDoveLady]

Jesus said that the Kingdom of Heaven is within you, don't you get it. That is your inner awareness...

You defend scripture.....Scripture is your God. Some of us have found the God within us and people like you don't like that....they tried to squelsh the books of the gnostics when they determened what books would go into the Bible, but you can't stop what is. It is what it is in spite of your resistance. WE whose heart is not deceitful, it is the "Father within" that can do all things.

[panthera50]

You are just afraid to loose your power over people, and you just can't have that.

[centainec]

There is no new church.

That's what you make of it.

[memama2]

There are two sites with wonderful insights into the book, one is stushie.wordpress scroll down the page till you see "The New Earth Chapter 1" which shows a condensed form of each page in chapter 1, of the book Oprah is promoting, also "Kjos Ministries" has several articles and charts about Oprah and Eckhart. I also saw a new youtube video called "The Gospel According To Oprahs Friends", which is very eye opening.

[Ian88H]

This is the funniest thing I've ever seen!! Props to our favorite "biblical analyst!" Lets all plan another crusade and get them sinners!

[obamatime]

we must unite

[knightday1973]

Good video. Biblically and logically based. If you think it is all only from the video have a look at Tolle's sites. If we all are part of God and yet we created God - what a self refuting combination of ideas. The only true absolutes are in an Absolute Unique God. If everything is relative - we have nothing to say. Jesus was not an archetype - He truly lived and was the way to the Father - God. The ones in relationship to God must worship Him in truth - based on His truth - not any truth.

[jakobfrederik]

Oprah is greedy, but so are they.

[qa4383]

This man obviously has some intelligence. However he problem lies in the fact that he is getting all of info from a video that has taken many of the ideas of Tolle out of context. If he really wants to be rational,and debate against the ideas portrayed in book, he should read the book and find out exactly what is being said.

[jackson4socks]

You make a good, rational point ga4383, yet 5 people give you a thumbs down. I guess they would rather a person speak out of ignorance. Too bad really.

Tolle's message is beautiful and wonderful and it will change the world. After 2000 years of man made Christianity, the world is ready for an awakening! :-)

[TheSharperWon]

Brother...you are so right on. Oprah is so New Age and the world has become sooooooo desencitized and ingnorant! Wake Up People!!!! Igf there come any other preaching any other gospel let him be accursed. Jesus Is Lord!!!

[spooney120]

fatherdoce and JAMESHI5 YOU ARE SAD AND YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA. You choose to believe the lie that is sweeping this country. Yes, I can see why you think this guy is delusional because you don't understand the plan and will of God. The Bible says to the unbeliever it is all foolishness. I hope and pray that you will be able to come into a knowledge of the truth some day. John 14:6 The only way of salvation.

[spooney120]

fatherdoce and JAMESHI5 YOU ARE SAD AND YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA. You choose to believe the lie that is sweeping this country. Yes, I can see why you think this guy is delusional because you don't understand the plan and will of God. The Bible says to the unbeliever it is all foolishness. I hope and pray that you will be able to come into a knowledge of the truth some day. John 14:6 The only way of salvation.

[fatherdoce]

i agree jameshi...Thi guy is delusional

[JAMESHI5]

this guy is a christian and he is saying Oprah's religin is irrational, illogical, and nonreasoning? Thats the saddest thing I have ever heard. Try using logic with your own religion asshole.

[maranatha316]

Dr. Dean's analysis is very perceptive, firmly grounded in the bedrock truth of our Creator God's revelation to us through His infallible Word, the Bible. In contrast, New Age belief systems make irrational leaps of faith into subjectivity, mysticism and occultism - all of which can be extremely attractive and exciting to human emotions and pride but are utterly unreliable, deceptive.

[mreloo]

@maranatha316  well said friend