Can't wait for "SMiLE" to come out Nov. 1st. The original is not as complete as the '04 version, but it will sound like the real deal and will probably make the '04 version sound like a modern day band TRYING to sound old.
I love this music too but I don't think it's close to what it would have been had he finished it. I think he was about half way through in finishing it. I know they say he went ahead and finished it out but I feel it was more that he or someone got it ready to release. That's the way he worked- he built songs after recording lots of pieces of what he intended to combine into an eventual finished product.
@bzzkirk Well,he proved he could kick mcartney/lennon asses as they were one ass only...i love their songs,but...they both would be so regret of that overated album called sgt peppers if the beach boys had smile released in 67,wow,just imagine these songs with the quality from the band those days?
the media wants us to swallow some recipes "dylan was the writer,sgt peppers was the album",ok,ok...we got it...not again,i ask
In the end the 60´s has no "winners",has only beauty
@TheDanification I hope that you didn't pay much attention to that flimsy explanation. Have you watched the documentary "Smile"? Brian Wilson himself talks about what he went through in the film. I would recommend it to get a deeper, more honest look at his life.
rick rolled.? plymouth rock rolled? =) this song is bad ass.. i can't beleive i have never realized that the beachboys are the foundation of most of the pop music that is good now adays.
Why does everyone think that this album is so perfect? Am I missing something? It sounds just like a Beach Boys album, which by my reckoning isn't necessarily a good thing. I guess I'm just not gonna catch this wave. Get it? I said wave and this is 1960s surfer music!
@Karateworm exactly...this has no similarity to no other album PERIOD let alone any other Beach Boys album..either your mind is remembering something wrong or you're trolling
Rock, rock and roll Plymouth rock, roll over Rock, rock and roll Plymouth rock, roll over Ribbon of concrete, just see what you done done To the church of the american indian ... Once upon the Sandwich Isles The social structure steamed upon Hawaii Rock, rock and roll Plymouth rock, roll over Rock, rock and roll Plymouth rock, roll over Bicycle rider, see see what you’ve done, To the church of the american indian ...
Wa halla loo lay Wa halla loo lah Keeny wok a poo lah Wa halla loo lay Wa halla loo lah Keeny wok a poo lah Wa halla loo lay Wa halla loo lah Keeny wok a poo lah Wa halla loo lay Wa halla loo lah Keeny wok a poo lah Rock, rock and roll Plymouth rock, roll over Rock, rock and roll Plymouth rock, roll over
love the indian sounds and melodies (the bass drum sounds, especially at 2:25). Note the harpsichord , too, which is an important white man european instrument, especially at the time of the P Rock in the 1600s, playing throughout this song. This is is thoughtful complex heady stuff. This is not a simple pop song, but a mini opera piece. who wrote the lyrics?
@idic5 Reminds me of boheman rhapsody (i'd say, more precisely, assuming P Rock came first, that B Rhapsody was sort of built on top of this -kind of- song).
* (ending the next comment) where The Freshmen and Jan and Dean and the Everly bros (simpler pretty harmonies) were just leaving the rear view mirror.
Apparently mike love wanted to stay in that lane and not re-invent. But all the tunes he wanted to lord over were from the brain of brian (hey, that's almost a van dyke parks phrase! :) )
this song is full of fresh sounds and melodies. So was this song (lyrics and music) conceived and composed in the 1966-67, or 2004?
for all the anti mike love stuff, ya gotta admit it, that this is not fun fun fun (simple and straightforward bubble gum-ish pop rock), but new fresh thoughtful inventive stuff - maybe mid 60s psychelic kinda stuff which 'fit in' with that time frame as much as fun fun fun fit in during the earlier 60s cultural timeframe,
Every time I see that conceited fuck whoring his ass on the mourning show tour, reliving the thunderclaps of inspiration that drove the Beach Boys to all their greatness, without even mentioning the name Brian Wilson through the entire course of the interview, like some fucking hulu-shirt wearing fuckknob posing for snaps in the sunlight of an unspoken genius, I get refuelled with inspiration to make it noted somewhere that he's a monumental cunt and visionless hacktard.
There are times when Mike Love should shut the fuck up. And he doesn't (Like launching a claim for rights against an album that the preposterous buffoon single-handedly steam-rolled). And then there are times when he should speak up (Like interviews when he's travelling with his lame congo-shirts and try-hard and wanna-BEach boys band. And a reporter asks him SPECIFICALLY about the inspirations behind the music and Wilsons name doesn't come up once). Yes, he's a fucking knob.
Music is magic. The us again. As a race we must never forget that we have the greateset capacity for love, dont forget folks. Time tells, Fuck Mike LOVELESS
it is natural for a man who does not understand the workings of a machine to imagine that a shaving that has fallen into it by chance and interfering with its action and tossing about in it is its most important part. The man who does not understand the construction of the machine cannot conceive that the small connecting cogwheel which revolves quietly is one of the most essential parts of the machine, and not the shaving which merely harms and hinders the working
Valid observation, friend, but does it apply to this particular song in any way? I don't feel that the ornamentation "interferes" in the listener's ability to discern its rhythmic or structural ingenuity.
If you heard the original bootlegs of the SMiLE that Brian never released with the Beach Boys in 1967, and put it in its rightful historical backdrop... in the midst of musical revolution and hyped up production race with the Beatles (SMiLE was due shortly before Sgt. Pepper)-- you might understand a bit more.
That being said, it certainly isn't the best album of this decade... but this decade has sucked so bad musically for the most part. 90's was better, and 60's/70's the best hands down.
Smile has probably been bought by far, far, more people outside of America than in America. It seems ironic really when you consider that its one of the most Americana albums. That can't be just down to to the fact that Smile wasn't released in 1967. I think that Americans wouldn't have bought Smile then in significant numbers either, just like Pet Sounds. So you can blame Mike Love if you want but his tastes were exactly representative of the general American public really.
I wouldn't say that. The reason Pet Sounds didn't sell in the US was because their casual fans didn't want to buy something that was so drastically different to their previous output.
Also, among the crowds of people who were buying The Beatles and Hendrix, The Beach Boys were considered part of the stale corporate music scene. Mike Love just wanted to appeal to the common crowd/make money, while Brian actually wanted to make great music.
Hahaha I LOVE the Heroes and Villains rip off..it actually sounds better in this song than it does in H&V. Except maybe the second time could have a better transition..that's one thing i was skeptical on with Brian..It does flow, but sometimes he'd do a transition even if it wasn't that smooth sounding..Not bad to do once and again, but he did it a lot in his 'experiments'
that and the fact that mike love is a terrible song writer. he is the reason the beach boys are known for garbage like kokomo and all that other terrible 'beach' themed junk that the beach boys were associated with like surfin' USA, surfin' safari, and california girls. but i guess brian wilson's stuff is in fact much less appreciated than mike love's by the general public. it's a shame really.
This is not bad, but it lacks that mysterious otherwordly feel of the original tapes..and yes Mike Love is an evil fuck who has been nothing but bad news for the Beach Boys since the very beginning
I believe they must have made a conscious decision to 'clean up' the more drugged out aspects of the music for the 2004 release. So all the tunes are more upbeat and more clearly mixed. I don't mind the overall sound quality here, my only gripe is the lack of real keyboard instruments.
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Well considering Mike and Brian are Cousins I don't think Brian Would agree with you. Despite his idiocy in seeing that this would've been a great album him and Brian are still family. And he wouldn't take too kindly to you calling his cousin an evil fuck.
Don't be too sure. Not that I agree, I really don't care what anybody calls anybody else; but cousins aren't always loved. I'm pretty sure I've at least three cousins I don't like and one I completely hate. He's a good for nothing. But a lack of resumé doesn't mean I have to call my cousin an evil fuck...like they say, you have to love your family, you don't have to like them...
And after Mike's little number at the hall of fame event, I'm ppretty sure Brian isn't liking him much either.
LOL. Brian still loves him and he has said this. They've been thick as thieves for over 40 years. They wouldn't let this come in between family matters.
I'm sure Brian is a bigger person, like you say....however, I once read that he had badmouthed Carl, but that may have been well in the past. Who hasn't been angry at a sibling, once in a while?
there are several video interviews available even here on YT where Brian says that he cant stand Mike Love because of his HUGE EGO he "cant stand to be around the guy for 5 minutes" Mike Love and his LACK of artistic vision helped create the perfect storm for Brians mental collapse... all TRUE artists know that "FORMULA"s are not the path to creative art. Mike love isand was just a jukebox/broken-recording greedy capitalist ego-maniac. Brian is THE gentle and humble musical wizard legend.
Wow I havent heard the original tapes... but if this "lacks the mysterious otherworldly feel" of the originals... Then I NEED TO HEAR THE ORIGINALS! This is the most magical album I have heard in a long long time or maybe ever.
@trimfodi Unfortunately for everyone involved, in the 60s Mike Love and the rest of the band liked to wear pants so tight, you got all the evidence you needed of a scrotum.
@trimfodi I know love was-is a piece of shit,but you,who knows more than i do,could tell me what was more serious for the smile question?LOVE or the problem with LSD?
The Smile Sessions is amazing! I can't stop listening! It's been months!
Dabidigu 1 week ago
rock rock rollllllll
Theknuckler49 2 months ago
It's rare that a band has two people as brilliant as Brian and Dennis Wilson. Wowzer.
TravelerKM 2 months ago
@TravelerKM
look, i love dennis, but brian dennis stand no chance against lennon mccartney as to talent between 2 people.
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
@OropherThranduil Yep, it's a scientific fact.
TravelerKM 2 months ago
The band the Doves ripped off the piano part. Think it's on Lost Souls, not sure.
Flashguy48 2 months ago
Can't wait for "SMiLE" to come out Nov. 1st. The original is not as complete as the '04 version, but it will sound like the real deal and will probably make the '04 version sound like a modern day band TRYING to sound old.
MattHatter 4 months ago 5
This is no way as good as the swilly song thats my blood but i like it init North Prospect 4eva!
NORTHPROSPECTROAD 6 months ago
I love this music too but I don't think it's close to what it would have been had he finished it. I think he was about half way through in finishing it. I know they say he went ahead and finished it out but I feel it was more that he or someone got it ready to release. That's the way he worked- he built songs after recording lots of pieces of what he intended to combine into an eventual finished product.
61193rwh 6 months ago
"SMiLE" should make it clear even to the biggest idiot: Brian Wilson was the Beach Boys' genius!!
kinskifreak2011 6 months ago 4
I like the use of Timpani.
kkknoxskorner 7 months ago
Mike is a poser...... not true to the music... he damn near gave Ronald Reagan a BJ
brahud 8 months ago in playlist Beach Boys - Brian Wilson - Smile
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EMCEscher 8 months ago
the best song compilation ever you made a masterpiece well layered
KurryRice 8 months ago
he was trying to keep up with the beatles...only he didn't have lennon or mccartney...whichever you like.
bzzkirk 10 months ago
@bzzkirk poor george harrison, so underated; Mr. Melody
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@bzzkirk Well,he proved he could kick mcartney/lennon asses as they were one ass only...i love their songs,but...they both would be so regret of that overated album called sgt peppers if the beach boys had smile released in 67,wow,just imagine these songs with the quality from the band those days?
the media wants us to swallow some recipes "dylan was the writer,sgt peppers was the album",ok,ok...we got it...not again,i ask
In the end the 60´s has no "winners",has only beauty
GabrielDhalaman 6 months ago
One person accidentally hit dislike.
gregtthomas 1 year ago
uh... this is amazing.
eliyates2 1 year ago 3
Rock On, Brian!
Roll Over, Beethoven (& Mike)
BustardBuzzard 1 year ago 2
what really caused brian wilson's mental breakdown? drugs? preexisting condition aggravated by external pressures?
TheDanification 1 year ago
@TheDanification he has a condition called schizo-affective disorder. He hears voices.
InstantMagic 1 year ago
@InstantMagic That's basically the same as what I read in the book "Catch a Wave" by Peter A. Carlin.
YouMuseMe 1 year ago
@InstantMagic after LSD use; just saw the documentary today
KeithHarbaugh 10 months ago
@TheDanification I hope that you didn't pay much attention to that flimsy explanation. Have you watched the documentary "Smile"? Brian Wilson himself talks about what he went through in the film. I would recommend it to get a deeper, more honest look at his life.
HappyShinyPeople 11 months ago
@TheDanification It was Mike.
BustardBuzzard 11 months ago
rick rolled.? plymouth rock rolled? =) this song is bad ass.. i can't beleive i have never realized that the beachboys are the foundation of most of the pop music that is good now adays.
octopuscollective 1 year ago
Why does everyone think that this album is so perfect? Am I missing something? It sounds just like a Beach Boys album, which by my reckoning isn't necessarily a good thing. I guess I'm just not gonna catch this wave. Get it? I said wave and this is 1960s surfer music!
BandofSorensons 1 year ago
@BandofSorensons Your loss I suppose. I don't see how it sounds like any other Beach Boy album, or anything else in existence.
Karateworm 1 year ago
@Karateworm exactly...this has no similarity to no other album PERIOD let alone any other Beach Boys album..either your mind is remembering something wrong or you're trolling
jwild611 1 year ago
call me crazy but the old bootlegged track without the extra vocals is superior...the song actually works better without them...creating more mystery
jwild611 1 year ago
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Karateworm 1 year ago
@Karateworm yes?
jwild611 1 year ago
@jwild611 I think that may have a mistake, I don't think I intended to send that message...
Karateworm 1 year ago
I can see why parks was criticizing the ribbon of concrete that was the scourge of the american indian, but why the disrespect against the bike?
"Bicycle rider, see see what you’ve done, To the church of the american indian"
omegamanroderick 1 year ago
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Picnicl 10 months ago
anyone: what does
"Wa halla loo lay Wa halla loo lah Keeny wok a poo lah" mean in I assume Hawaiian?
omegamanroderick 1 year ago
@omegamanroderick It doesn't mean anything in Hawaiian. Those words don't exist in the language.
Jinjoooo 1 year ago
Waving from the ocean liner
The native Indians behind that
omegamanroderick 1 year ago
omegamanroderick 1 year ago
omegamanroderick 1 year ago
This album blows my mind. I could listen to it on a loop.
erinmerle 1 year ago
Why the hell do you guys hate Mike Love so much??
Vesters1 1 year ago
@Vesters1 Because Smile didn't happen when it should have because of him and 'people' like him.
Dodo251 1 year ago
*(ending the next comment) ...with the playing/counter playing between the harpsichord/white man parts and the drum/indian parts.
idic5 1 year ago
love the indian sounds and melodies (the bass drum sounds, especially at 2:25). Note the harpsichord , too, which is an important white man european instrument, especially at the time of the P Rock in the 1600s, playing throughout this song. This is is thoughtful complex heady stuff. This is not a simple pop song, but a mini opera piece. who wrote the lyrics?
idic5 1 year ago
@idic5 Reminds me of boheman rhapsody (i'd say, more precisely, assuming P Rock came first, that B Rhapsody was sort of built on top of this -kind of- song).
idic5 1 year ago
@idic5 Van Dyke Parks did the lyrics, if you don't know him yet, check out some of his stuff, bet you'll love it ;)
MrMxyzptlk5 1 year ago
* (ending the next comment) where The Freshmen and Jan and Dean and the Everly bros (simpler pretty harmonies) were just leaving the rear view mirror.
Apparently mike love wanted to stay in that lane and not re-invent. But all the tunes he wanted to lord over were from the brain of brian (hey, that's almost a van dyke parks phrase! :) )
idic5 1 year ago
this song is full of fresh sounds and melodies. So was this song (lyrics and music) conceived and composed in the 1966-67, or 2004?
for all the anti mike love stuff, ya gotta admit it, that this is not fun fun fun (simple and straightforward bubble gum-ish pop rock), but new fresh thoughtful inventive stuff - maybe mid 60s psychelic kinda stuff which 'fit in' with that time frame as much as fun fun fun fit in during the earlier 60s cultural timeframe,
idic5 1 year ago
I always get a kick out of all the Mike Love hate comments on youtube. I
tagomago91 1 year ago
@tagomago91
Every time I see that conceited fuck whoring his ass on the mourning show tour, reliving the thunderclaps of inspiration that drove the Beach Boys to all their greatness, without even mentioning the name Brian Wilson through the entire course of the interview, like some fucking hulu-shirt wearing fuckknob posing for snaps in the sunlight of an unspoken genius, I get refuelled with inspiration to make it noted somewhere that he's a monumental cunt and visionless hacktard.
Hzqi 1 year ago 4
@Hzqi Let me guess......u don't like Mike Love?
manoffaith3112 11 months ago
@manoffaith3112
There are times when Mike Love should shut the fuck up. And he doesn't (Like launching a claim for rights against an album that the preposterous buffoon single-handedly steam-rolled). And then there are times when he should speak up (Like interviews when he's travelling with his lame congo-shirts and try-hard and wanna-BEach boys band. And a reporter asks him SPECIFICALLY about the inspirations behind the music and Wilsons name doesn't come up once). Yes, he's a fucking knob.
Hzqi 11 months ago
@tagomago91 Mike Love, Not war :)
idic5 1 year ago 2
Music is magic. The us again. As a race we must never forget that we have the greateset capacity for love, dont forget folks. Time tells, Fuck Mike LOVELESS
wroteforlucks 1 year ago
I thought Brian's band did a particularly good job on the vocals on this track.
bobareebop 1 year ago
it is natural for a man who does not understand the workings of a machine to imagine that a shaving that has fallen into it by chance and interfering with its action and tossing about in it is its most important part. The man who does not understand the construction of the machine cannot conceive that the small connecting cogwheel which revolves quietly is one of the most essential parts of the machine, and not the shaving which merely harms and hinders the working
czech698 2 years ago
Valid observation, friend, but does it apply to this particular song in any way? I don't feel that the ornamentation "interferes" in the listener's ability to discern its rhythmic or structural ingenuity.
thinedoor2 1 year ago
i agree user red,,,,,this album really sucks.....
04116404 2 years ago
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I honestly don't get how the hell this is said to be the best album of the whole 00's decade.
UserRED13 2 years ago
yeah ,its good...but I back up your statement
RickenbackerGalore 2 years ago
If you heard the original bootlegs of the SMiLE that Brian never released with the Beach Boys in 1967, and put it in its rightful historical backdrop... in the midst of musical revolution and hyped up production race with the Beatles (SMiLE was due shortly before Sgt. Pepper)-- you might understand a bit more.
That being said, it certainly isn't the best album of this decade... but this decade has sucked so bad musically for the most part. 90's was better, and 60's/70's the best hands down.
bobshenix 1 year ago 7
That makes everything much more clear now. :] It's not BAD, but it seemed outdated. But now it makes sense.
UserRED13 1 year ago
Rock On!
BustardBuzzard 2 years ago
Smile has probably been bought by far, far, more people outside of America than in America. It seems ironic really when you consider that its one of the most Americana albums. That can't be just down to to the fact that Smile wasn't released in 1967. I think that Americans wouldn't have bought Smile then in significant numbers either, just like Pet Sounds. So you can blame Mike Love if you want but his tastes were exactly representative of the general American public really.
Picnicl 2 years ago
I wouldn't say that. The reason Pet Sounds didn't sell in the US was because their casual fans didn't want to buy something that was so drastically different to their previous output.
Also, among the crowds of people who were buying The Beatles and Hendrix, The Beach Boys were considered part of the stale corporate music scene. Mike Love just wanted to appeal to the common crowd/make money, while Brian actually wanted to make great music.
Emerald1234S 1 year ago
Hahaha I LOVE the Heroes and Villains rip off..it actually sounds better in this song than it does in H&V. Except maybe the second time could have a better transition..that's one thing i was skeptical on with Brian..It does flow, but sometimes he'd do a transition even if it wasn't that smooth sounding..Not bad to do once and again, but he did it a lot in his 'experiments'
NickStrick 2 years ago
Did Doves steal this for their song Valley?
pleaseoceancloud 2 years ago
keep on rocking plymouth
JOEYISAPAYNE 2 years ago
well one reason is he gave brian shit about this great music.
ssiknick83 2 years ago
Im a hard cynic.
Only BW music softens me up.
runeguldberg 2 years ago 2
can someone please tell me the story of why everyone hates mike love
qotsaeodm 2 years ago
He thought SMiLE wouldn't make enough money, so he did whatever he could to bring the project down.
SMiLEReconstruction 2 years ago
that and the fact that mike love is a terrible song writer. he is the reason the beach boys are known for garbage like kokomo and all that other terrible 'beach' themed junk that the beach boys were associated with like surfin' USA, surfin' safari, and california girls. but i guess brian wilson's stuff is in fact much less appreciated than mike love's by the general public. it's a shame really.
devious222 2 years ago 3
@devious222
Actually the public prefer's Brian's music
Look at how sMiLe and Love You did compared to the Mike Love beach boys.
brettmi9 1 year ago
rock rock roll! This is awesome, Brian cracks me up. I love how this album doesn't take it self too seriously.
justinomorales 3 years ago 4
This is not bad, but it lacks that mysterious otherwordly feel of the original tapes..and yes Mike Love is an evil fuck who has been nothing but bad news for the Beach Boys since the very beginning
augustusdes 3 years ago 4
I believe they must have made a conscious decision to 'clean up' the more drugged out aspects of the music for the 2004 release. So all the tunes are more upbeat and more clearly mixed. I don't mind the overall sound quality here, my only gripe is the lack of real keyboard instruments.
dominian42 3 years ago 3
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Well considering Mike and Brian are Cousins I don't think Brian Would agree with you. Despite his idiocy in seeing that this would've been a great album him and Brian are still family. And he wouldn't take too kindly to you calling his cousin an evil fuck.
ChristForte 2 years ago
Don't be too sure. Not that I agree, I really don't care what anybody calls anybody else; but cousins aren't always loved. I'm pretty sure I've at least three cousins I don't like and one I completely hate. He's a good for nothing. But a lack of resumé doesn't mean I have to call my cousin an evil fuck...like they say, you have to love your family, you don't have to like them...
And after Mike's little number at the hall of fame event, I'm ppretty sure Brian isn't liking him much either.
claudiall 2 years ago 2
LOL. Brian still loves him and he has said this. They've been thick as thieves for over 40 years. They wouldn't let this come in between family matters.
ChristForte 2 years ago
I'm sure Brian is a bigger person, like you say....however, I once read that he had badmouthed Carl, but that may have been well in the past. Who hasn't been angry at a sibling, once in a while?
claudiall 2 years ago 2
there are several video interviews available even here on YT where Brian says that he cant stand Mike Love because of his HUGE EGO he "cant stand to be around the guy for 5 minutes" Mike Love and his LACK of artistic vision helped create the perfect storm for Brians mental collapse... all TRUE artists know that "FORMULA"s are not the path to creative art. Mike love isand was just a jukebox/broken-recording greedy capitalist ego-maniac. Brian is THE gentle and humble musical wizard legend.
stumptacular 2 years ago 2
Wow I havent heard the original tapes... but if this "lacks the mysterious otherworldly feel" of the originals... Then I NEED TO HEAR THE ORIGINALS! This is the most magical album I have heard in a long long time or maybe ever.
stumptacular 2 years ago
Mike Love sucks serious ass.
Brian Wilson is Genius
matthousesdown 3 years ago 29
@matthousesdown mike love great lyrics
MrHopeTelevision 10 months ago
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Mike love is a big dork who smells like tacos
musicistheproblem 3 years ago
Mmmmm... tacos....
volantera 3 years ago
nice mellow track.
briansno1fan 3 years ago 3
Your mellow. Mellow out man
musicistheproblem 3 years ago
yes mike love sucks! This is the best song and the original tapes are amazing as well... both in their own way....
suparni 3 years ago 5
I wish the beach boys had the sack to finish the vocals for this track and SMiLE for that matter. Mike Love has no balls.
trimfodi 3 years ago 21
@trimfodi Unfortunately for everyone involved, in the 60s Mike Love and the rest of the band liked to wear pants so tight, you got all the evidence you needed of a scrotum.
ThomYorkesHead 1 year ago
@trimfodi what's all that have to do with testicles anyway? got balls much on your mind their bud? grow up
unfortunatebeam 8 months ago in playlist Beach Boys - Brian Wilson - Smile
@trimfodi I know love was-is a piece of shit,but you,who knows more than i do,could tell me what was more serious for the smile question?LOVE or the problem with LSD?
Thanks
GabrielDhalaman 6 months ago