Alien Vs Predator for Jaguar 64

[1likestuff]

I Loved it (being new to the console world). scared the shit out of me.

[ncshuriken]

This game was my reason for violently defending the honor of the Atari Jaguar. I'll never sell any of my retro consoles, especially the Jag. I wont sell my new consoles either, go away, your not having them!!!

This console had some sick games, like Ultra Vortek, Trevor Mcfur (lol), Kasumi Ninja (LMAO), Vortex 2000 (or whatever it was called), and a lot of other cool games I forgot. Lets not forget... THIS, was the 1st 64bit console ever, NOT the N64 HAHAHA.

[JungleHunter87]

I'm the world biggest Alien vs. Predator fan, I have the right to bitch and moan on any forum I choose pertaining to AvP....

[VisionofOrion]

For 1994 this game was so ahead of its time. One of the first games where you could play all three species. Had the Predator's vision sights, weapons, the cacooning ability of the Alien. hell I bought this system just for this game.

Nothing better then walking around and hearing "anytime" at that point you knew you were screwed. (Only thing I wished for was a button that would let you do that as the Predator)

[JungleHunter87]

Luckily for us Director Ridley Scott is making an Alien prequel which will address the origins of the space jockeys. I really hope he can get this franchise back on its feet. I think he can pull it off, after all the story began with the first alien film that he directed. Honestly, I think he's our last hope. What I'd like to know is this. Did the space jockeys come in contact with the predators? And if so did they have an alliance? Or were they, as I hope, enemies?

[MrBOPESquad2]

@JungleHunter87 Why are you posting about Ridley Scott in an ALIENS VS PREDATOR video? He hates AVP. ALIENS and PREDATORS go together well- its just the live action films letting the side down (although the first AVP film was fun; 3 stars out of 5 IMO).

Because of AVP, Ridley is even contemplating NOT setting Prometheus in the "ALIEN" universe.

Personally I think it will be boring, empty and pretentious like Stanley Kubrick's "2001". Oh and it will be PG-13 too...........

[JungleHunter87]

@MrBOPESquad2 You know what Hollywood should do? They should make an Alien vs. Predator film based on this game and make it Rated R. SUPER RRR... They could title it 'AvP The Gogoltha Incident'... This game was by far the best in the franchise. I remember playing it when I was a kid, and I'll tell you something else man. I was terrified to round corners out of fear that alien would be there. IT'S SUPPOSE TO TERRIFY YOU! It doesn't do that anymore and pisses me off... They ruined this franchise.

[ncshuriken]

@JungleHunter87

You know what Hollywood should do? LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE!!!! But I agree man, I grew up with this generation of gaming, and THIS game was the dogs bollucks, and anyone who said it never scared them as a kid, never played it. Simple as that. AVP 1 & 2 on PC was pretty scary, but it was too hard to even get past level 1. AVP 2011? Nah Im alright, thanks anyway

[JungleHunter87]

@MrBOPESquad2 Empty and pretentious? Pretentious no. Empty yes. There is a sense of emptiness that came from the original alien film and the franchise as a whole. IT'S SPACE FOR GOD SAKES!!! You didn't know where they came from... All we know is that it kills on sight and is generally unpleasant :)

[ncshuriken]

@JungleHunter87

Dont try to understand them, or reason with them. Concentrate more on trying to not get eggs shoved down your throat or your forehead being invaded by a mouth on a stick. These guys will fuck you up, the universe knows. Even predator has to be careful with these motherfuckers. You've got to respect a mofo thats absolutely DEADLY in every single stage in its life cycle...Humans...LOL

[JungleHunter87]

This game was made back when the AvP franchise was at its peak. In case you AvP fans never realized it, the derelict ship in this game was a space jockey ship similar to the one in the 1st alien film. The story in this game festered from the mysterious space jockey race like the original alien film. That's just one of many reasons this game was so excellent. Ever since the AvP franchise veered away from the mysterious space jockeys & their tragic fate it has lost its eerie scary vibe. 

[ncshuriken]

@JungleHunter87

Were the space jockeys those HUGE ass things that seemed to be conjoined to their ships, which also seem to be organic? Like a symbiosis between vehicle and pilot? When I was finally old enough to take in everything except the scare-factor of Alien, I thought that they were actually part of the Xenomorph species, but they never really explained it I guess. Aren't there any comics that go deeper into it? I remember the AVP comics from the 90s, but only read 1 of them.

[McDeathification]

This looks like they made it on windows movie maker...

[RedheadMetalC]

long time ago i always thought rebellion's pc avp 1998 was the first but now when i see this old game i realy feel like i have seen ghost.

[sybnios]

that console, and you will see the tremendous differences! So there is NO chance it good develop actual 64 bit graphics!

[bobbystar101]

@sybnios Anyone who refers to such a thing as "64 bit graphics" is an idiot and doesn't have the credibility to comment

The xbox 1 is a 32bit console technically.

[blackArt2000]

Object Processor 64-bit RISC architecture; programmable; can behave as a variety of graphic architectures

Blitter  64-bit RISC architecture; high speed logic operations, z-buffering and Gouraud shading, with 64-bit internal registers.

[blackArt2000]

underlying hardware was crippled by the CPU's memory controller, which prevented code-execution out of system RAM. Less severe, but still annoying defects included a buggy UART.could have been mitigated by a mature code-development environment, to unburden the programmer. Jaguar's development tools left much to the programmer's imagination, as documentation was incomplete. And so writing game-code was often an endurance exercise in the tedious assembler.

= Crap Games

[bobbystar101]

@blackArt2000 Are you sure your a IT consultant and you've not already been sacked for plagiarism (which you seem quite fond of)

Your quoting of someone elses paragraph followed by the detailed (/sarchasm) conclusion with no evidence or evaluation of "=crap games" shows that you have read something describing flaws in the jaguar, and completely failed to understand it.

Learn coding and come back then when you can contribute credibly to a discussion.

[blackArt2000]

OMG! Your are been so anal about a dead and crap Console! Man you need a Girlfriend.LOL.

[blackArt2000]

All Consoles have bugs and they need work arounds,Atari didnt have the money to develop the system.there was nothing wrong with the Hardware but the developer tools were shall we say needed attention. If you do work in the I.T world you will know about product execution, something that Apple is v gd at but Atari isnt! The Jag could process 64bit code but, it didnt have any polygon ability

Its not how many Bits can be processed, but what calculations are done with each one.

and Dont be rude!

[blackArt2000]

@Bobbystar101.. Suddenly gone Quiet! LOL

Be careful who you gob off too in future!!! LOL

[sybnios]

Ok I am a retronaut and I love cult consoles like 32X or 64DD or amiga cd32 but Jaguar which I own, is not that good in every term. I am not refering into marketing or sales, I don't care about this stuff, a console can be a GEM even if it hasn't sell to the majority! But first of all the system wasn't 64 bit. The GPU is 32 bit and practically there isn't a single game that shows decent 32 bit graphics, If you except Alien vs Predator but againg compare it with SEGA Saturn or even PSX I hate...

[bobbystar101]

@sybnios BTW Jag is just so much better than 32x or cd32.

[MIXSTARPRODUCTIONS]

Jaguar is more or less 64 -bit, but it was released during 16 -bit -period, so while it tecnically surpasses most 32 -bit consoles, no one ever used it`s full potential so it would have barely competed againts other consoles, let alone Nintendo 64...

[hteman]

64 was realeased in 1996 jag died in 1995

[VenomousVitality]

- I am just curious. What would this game fetch on ebay with all three overlays, manual, box, and atari game inserts? I shit you not, the only thing missing from this game is the celaphane(sp?) There is not even a single crease on anything. I also have Doom, Cybermorph, and Wolfenstein all in original condition. Please - any opinions or advice?

[kevinburnsrules]

lookes cool

[Djtechno758]

Does the atari jaguar have a joybox? I heard they have been making joyboxs since the first systems and i need one for the jaguar controller. plz tell me.

[commandox20]

The jaguar isnt that good okay? Thats why it failed miserably.

[commandox20]

Whoever marked me down, thats fine and all, but understand me clearly. The Jaguar itself, as a system, was poorly designed. It was hard to code for, had poor third party support, and it just couldnt get its head above water. Im not hating on the system, im merely pointing this simple fact out.

[Jerky128]

Agreed.

[powerofktulu]

this and tempest 2000 = only good games for the jag.

and even those two didnt warrent a purchase.

[spectre0618]

Well Jaguar isn't for everyone but AVP was the greatest and I would still own a Jaguar, a Sega Genesis and N64 and SNES above any single new system in existence. New games are too much about graphics and not enough about gameplay.

[Ilovewienerdogs]

@spectre0618

If you went back and watched old console commercials you would see its always been about the graphics.. 64 bit!

[ArmedtotheTeethProd]

@spectre0618 Nintendo noticed that. That's why the Wii has reduced graphics.

[blackArt2000]

the Jag was 4 16bit chips intergrated into 2 32bit chips one graphic and one sound chip - this was fed by a 64bit Bus from the game card..

heap of shit!

[bobbystar101]

@blackArt2000 wrong

[TruthandJustice101]

Jaguar sucks. 64-bit my arse.

[furyplum44]

Instead of arguing about doom... Lets talk about how awesome AVP for the jag was, I LOVED IT, quite scary though!

[imperialpod]

This is a Hall of Fame game, absolute classic and I still play this over Doom 3 and Halflife 2, technically they are superior but this, its got quality and atmospere all over it!

Never bettered!

[godoftakedown]

If the Jag is 64 bit why are you afraid to pit Jag Doom against Doom 64 (i would not even consider the N64 a full 64 bit console and it is much more 64 than the crappy Jag). But as i mentioned Doom is a crappy example to see a systems 32 or 64 bit capabilities cause it is lousy 2D zooms. You also say the Jag version of doom is better than the PS one version. Hmmm, i remember cool lighting effects that i saw on the PS one and could not find anywhere on the Jag and on Jag multiplayer mode was bugy

[godoftakedown]

funny indeed. Doom and Wolfenstein have...like...Zero polygons and feature 100% scaled bitmaps. Lame to consider Doom for a benchmark comparison (what about a Club Drive or Checkered Flag to Ridge Racer or Sega Rally comparison). Have you tried to compare Jag Doom to Doom 64? Tell me what you think, and please take Doom 64 on a RGB-modded NTSC N64 for comparison. It is nice that the Jaguar can transfer data so fast, but please tell me which component is working and not processing data in 64 bit.

[godoftakedown]

you gave the answer yourself. It is always debatable what "Bit" a console is. Neo Geo is 16 bit but the PS2 could not play Metal Slug 3 totally arcade perfect (is the Neo Geo maybe more than 16 bit cause the CPU has some 24 and 32 bit components/routines?). The Jaguar does have a fery fast data transfer for it´s time, but do you really believe it can render, compute and manipulate on the same level in real time? I say NO, even if the Jaguar would have been pushed to the limit. Sorry Jag fan boy

[m1omg]

bits are nonsense

PENTIUM 4 IS 32 BIT

[Arrowdance]

to m1omg

Depends on the architecture of the processor. There are Pentium IV that are 64-bit.

[godoftakedown]

i learned my fuckin specs. As i mentioned above, considering your points the Mega Drive then is a 32-bit machine...you can NEVER consider a whole architecture for a 64 bit system only because some components are.

[kpbuckley]

This was probably the only game for Jag that actually made use of its capabilities. I'm thinking about hooking mine up tonight and playing in HD. I wonder what's in store!! If Atari had better contracts with devs, the Jaguar would not be a laughing stock right now.

[godoftakedown]

Jaguar 64? Would have been nice IF the Jaguar was 64-bit. One component does NOT make the whole system. If that would be the case than the Mega drive is a 32-bit machine because it´s CPU does have some 32-bit routines.

[dstarks80]

Atari's 64-bit claim was referring to the data-bus in the Jaguar. It was 64-bits wide from the main RAM to the graphics chip,sound chip, then to the CPU. The main graphics chip was 32-bit with two 64-bit processors inside of it;but that was irrelevant because Atari strictly referred to the 64-bit data-bus that made Jaguar a 64-bit system. Atari was never sued for false advertising,so the Jaguar was indeed a 64-bit system.

[Grouncontrol]

I loved this game backm in they day. It is/was the only game I ever drew maps for. I had mapped out the entire game - but sold the jaguar -and gave the maps away with the game - I still wish I had it!

[5StarGeneralXenoCO]

This game was so awsome! It was my 4th or 5th game I ever played and my favorite so far when I played it, also was way ahead of its time! Man do I miss the good ol days of playing this ^^

[Scottydont66]

i miss my jaguar.....

this game was awesome in the dark

[opelcambo]

i certainly dont remeber the jaguar logo looking like that! - the avp game was ahead ofits time but im sure they could have spent more time making it smoother - the best thing about this game, was the clarity of the box cover (and if anyones ever lucky enough to see the JPG of it, its extremly clear) Predator & Alein looking at each other

[fsmetal]

Talk about games that were ahead of their time. The entire world was doing Doom clones and the FPS genre was basically still getting started and along comes Alien vs Predator. It was anything but a Doom clone and fuckin hell it was creepy

[snappertjuh]

i still play the game now and then its still pretty awsome!

[FallenMessiah]

awesome game and trailer!

[valient5]

This is Still the most intense game i have ever played, i played it right through from start to finish, used the love the predator chasing you as a marine scary stuff! they screwd up everything that ever bore the name after this game.

[commandox20]

I got this game, Doom, wolfenstein and three others (tempest is one I think) great system. Its a pity that the internal configuration wasn't optimised, the whole thing could have been a HUGE success.

[rupertsbear]

i loved this game. way ahead of it's time...

[Ratchetcomand]

My friend use to have this game it was awesome .

[LairdOfForsyth]

Great advert!