Good job lexus. put more hard working skilled labor out of jobs. the hard way. making it harder for people to support their family. how much did them robots cost again? lol
@Batmanshack Many do. and not that good either. UAW has destroyed the reputation the american people have when buying american cars. pretty sad. They get paid all that money, all that bitching, all those pensions and the american cars are all at the bottom of the list for cheap crap. Hey, atleast they have jobs right?...
@Whocares05050 Maybe they each cost way less than a human's yearly salary or two? Saves them money in the long run. In the end, money is what matters the most (sadly).
@fostytou Pretty sure its in reference to how their machines are claimed to replicate a painter's hand motions versus where BMW is totally automated in the sense their cars are actually dipped in the paints
Or think about others car makers with their misleading ads (about consumption and performance) and what happen with their exploited workers in India (not American workers indeed). The curious thing, I'm pretty sure, the most of guys writing here are not even American, hehe... Am I wrong? :) American people are not that obsessed and dirty against anything (in this case a car maker). Smells 'brainwashing' :)
@SuperDuperGameJunkie Sorry for telling but your comment makes no sense at all. 'The don't care about hiring people'... uhm.. Then, try to understand what happen with GM and the American government... (they sell Non-American cars as Americans cars betraying American people). And study about how a company works before writing comments typical from a obsessed, ignorant and uneducated person.
148 'dislikes'... man, those guys should get a life instead of "showing" that complex of inferiority. Sad to not see the nationality of those 'dislikes', hehe.
Nice to see how a car maker value people instead of betraying as others car makers to get their money.
I am awake! I am keeping up and try to contribute to make society as a whole to be better off.
Wake up! consequence, like it or not, is there! Dont tell the society to wait for you! Keep up dude! and dont forget to help those who are struggling! It is all about making the society a better place! Automation is not a bad thing!
Yes I can lose my job, and I guess that the consequence if I don't keep up. However the society as a whole will always be better off by more efficiency! Press printing replaced the job of millions of writers, and that is not a bad thing. I feel sorry for them though... but again, the society as a whole must be better off.
Maybe they could have a robot follow the actions of the CEO and then replace the CEO with a robot. Maybe the major shareholder's dealings could be automated too. Pass THAT savings on to the consumers! hahah
If anyone is keeping track of the robot scene than your aware of the sad truth, YOU as human are being replaced. 50 years ago it would've sounded crazy, but now we have robots being designed to wait on people in resteraunts, assist the elderly, etc. This commercial is a glimpse into the future. In the future, instead of competing against your fellow man for a job, you'll be competing against the latest robot. And what'll be the next option?? You as an out dated human, will need to be upgraded.
Hey if any of you were smart enough you would learn that making machines do the work creates more jobs than what a painter would do. The reason is because in order to make the robot you have to create it and it takes thousands of people to make one robot. Then if you think about it you have to have someone who maintains the machine in working condition and you have to have someone programming it so in reality the machine might take one persons low paying job and create many high paying jobs.
@3dwinjaramillo Actually it creates a FEW high paying jobs and eliminates MANY lower, but not remedial artisan type jobs. All in all it's less jobs and less money and opportunities for workers. It only takes one programmer to write the program for a hundred of those arms. You're right, though the new technology does give you new opportunities beyond just the painter's job --I don't think it's presented here very well.
You plan on putting MORE people out of jobs, replacing real artists with robots? The "hard way?" I think not. I'd call it the cheap-ass, "let's act like everyone else that's struggling to make a profit" way. By making these ads, you've attempted to separate yourselves from your german, italian, and other asian competitors by doing things "the hard way." Instead, you've proven that you're no different from the rest of them.
Like another commenter said, robots don't by cars...working people do.
@victorhalim wait till you lose yours then go study economics. While you're waiting to be replaced by either an illegal alien or a robot you should see some videos on tent cities in america.
@wanshei I've always thought it would be cool to see a car company charge less for it's vehicles because it costs less to produce them. If the auto industry continues in this way the whole thing could be automated and we could have nearly free cars, which could also be solar? powered. What do you think about that?
@killamanjaro17 Bud, I totally agree. I was even gonna say the same thing. Admitting to cutting jobs and replacing them with machines, they even have to highlight their stupidity by a slogan that contradicts the whole message of the video.
pretty damn ballsy making this commercial, you know? with all these people out of work in America, you decide to make a robot to do their job for them-oh wait! the cars aren't even made in America, so there were no jobs in the first place, how about that
@3dwinjaramillo It actually only takes thousands of people to create the high profile robots that are scientific breakthroughs, and those even have a team of 70 AT MOST. Also, to maintain all those machines there would be maybe 20 mechanics AT MOST compared to all those master craftsman painters.
Eventually however, the world would be perfect if work didn't exist, because if no work is needed, then no money is needed; therefore everyone wins and is free to pursue their lifelong goals, interests, inner happiness and discovery as opposed to the jobs most people take which they barely even enjoy just to make ends meet; you can consider that everyone nowadays has to work their brains out to keep up with growing expenses. Whens the last time you say someone who loved their job, probably awhil
i bet u anything when they get the robot to put the person out of work the price is going to go up....ppl will be convinced the robot does a better job or painting and value it more therefor the raise prices....its all to get money for the CEO
Why use robots when your currently using master technicians with decades of experience???
its doesnt make sense because they talk about sending out all those wood parts to get hand crafted instead of mass producing them in the wood craftsmanship vid
@1234Robert5678 Even if robots performed all the labors that humans don't want to do, we as a race would experience a golden age unlike any other where people could simply live free to be the people they wanted to be, not what their previous company employer wants them to be to maximize profits but just them, completely undistracted to pursue and achieve rather than to do the same thing at work everyday for the rest of their lives until they get old and remorse over the youth they lost.
@TrueVeracity lolz you need to factor in peace on earth, the end of crime, the end of all types of greed, the end of exploitation, the end of poverty and hunger, free and EQUAL education for all, free health care, and money falling from the sky before what you're talking about can happen. Robots can't do that...
It's nice to think about though. fact is, life's a bitch and we made it that way.
@athelija As a species it wasn't we, it was those who were lured by the prospects of some and total greed, many people in history chose not to abuse their financial power and influence instead choosing to stay within their means, while other companies decided to expand, grow, into new fields, adapt, and today discard American workers for the 3rd world low wage workers without hesitation. Wouldn't it be nice if one day, you'd be able to raise a child without the ruthless/dominating force of greed
Don't really care about the car but how the flip do people do those lights like that on camera?! I think it's so cool. I've seen them before and I want to know how.
There's nothing like a few comments on a YouTube video to display America's lack of economic understanding. Using robots isn't killing jobs or "stealing" from the economy. Technology actually expands the economy by increasing output and production, meaning more money for Lexus stockholders to invest in other enterprises, leading to more jobs in those businesses and more jobs overall. Yes, using a robot can lead to higher employment.
So, All Lexus's "The Hard Way" project is pretty much telling us that if you buy a Lexus, its not made from skilled workers, its made by machines... And that they have pointless leather tests that outreach the limits of any wear on a car over its respectable life time, and that the people who put work into their company for so long are worthless to them? Wow, They really did fuck themselves over with this one.
you cant blame Lexus they said "the hard way is the only way" so i guess the people losing there jobs are just going to have to find out the hard way to have a perfect car.
And then Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware and started to produce products for much cheaper rates than the Chinese and put them out of business!
they'll make more cars (Different designs)...so they'll still need master painters to do the motions for these cars. Everyone hates all these robots stealing human jobs. Understandable, but listen, you can't compete with expensive old ways of doing things. You can't stop progress.
Think a bout it... Why just hire one or two painters when the Master Painter program means that programmers get factored into the economy, along with computer manufacturing, not to mention people to maintain said machines. In the end it could be used to create jobs, spread across more fields.
How wide is the base of the pyramid of workers that leads to one master that can train your robot? You are destroying the skills you need and removing the soul from the autos you build.
Lexus dropped the ball on this one. Hope you did not pay the ad company too much. As stated in many of the comments - the sick irony of paying a guy to paint one car and then having a robot take it from there is pretty messed up. Bad call boys!
Although job loss isn't good, I can't say I blame them for moving on to robotics. I mean, take a look at computers even! Without computers, we could have so many more jobs (and less people slackin on the internet! lol). It all comes down to corporate productivity.
I wonder if Lexus actually test marketed this ad, because almost everyone's response is "negative vibes" toward the tones of automation and mass produciton. This commercial is a total miss on lexus' part. And if I was going to by a shitty lexus, I'd at least prefer to buy one painted by hand, by an actual human.
I wonder if Lexus actually test marketed this ad, because almost everyone's response is "negative vibes" toward the tones of automation and mass produciton. This commercial is a total miss on lexus' part. And if I was going to by a shitty lexus, I'd at least prefer to buy one painted by hand, by an actual human.
Yeeeup nothing like finding a way to put people out of work. It always makes $en$e. Eventually you put enough people out of work you'll have no one to buy products. Dont get me wrong im all for technological development but there's a point when you have to weigh in the human factor. Robots dont buy cars.
@wanshei doing this frees up more people to do creative jobs and increase quality of life down the road. Also using robots makes the work cheaper in the long run and allows products to become cheaper, this making it easier for everyone to buy. If the only job you can do is shovel coal, push buttons, and turn screws then I don't care if you're unemployed.
@wanshei wasn't talking about YOU in particular. I'm saying in general, I don't have much sympathy for those who can't do work that requires some kind of intelligence. Nice job throwing your pay in there... I make more than that sometimes and I'm probably a lot younger than you are.
@regretlesssandiego7 That wouldnt surprise me, we are moving at a furious pace. By the time i finished my undergrad degree in computer information systems the entire architecture of computing had changed. This was 1992. By 1998 my neighbors 10 and 12 year olds were writing compilers and this was from a public school. I was obsolete by the time i graduated. Commercial art degree, took a little longer but NO commercial art is done by hand now. So it wouldnt surprise me at all that you make more.
@wanshei but there aren't enough master painters left to paint the hundreds of thousands of cars produced every year.
And technology isn't inherently evil, people! It increases the output, which decreases price, which allows more purchases, which creates more demands, and more demands for luxury items, which creates more jobs.
@ferrous719 i hope you're right. I would enjoy being wrong about this. Honestly and i am gainfully employed and no im not a professional auto painter. I can do it, have done it and gotten paid for it. But as a profession... no.
@wanshei Who do you think will design the robots? Who do you think will program the robots? Who do you think will repair the robots? Replaceing workers with robots will take jobs away, but it will also create jobs.
@wanshei Hey if you were smart enough you would learn that making machines do the work create more jobs than what a painter would do. the reason is because in order to make the robot you have to create it and it takes thousands of people to make one robot. Then if you think about it you have to have someone who maintains the machine in working condition and you have to have someone programming it so in reality the machine might take one persons low paying job and create many executive jobs.
@3dwinjaramillo actually its long term repercussions effect more people's jobs because yes, people need to make the robot (i dontknow where you got thousands of people to make one root, thats outrageous) But, when that robot can do one's job, there is no need for them so really, it IS taking more jobs, just as wanshei said. It can really go full circle and both sides can be argued, just looking at a different aspect
@wanshei robots also don't need to be paid. they may need to be maintained and bought of course, but in the long run vehicles would become cheaper, and sure maybe they wouldn't be able to paint the cars anymore, but a painter or a team of painters is still needed to program them
@DravenNGRP right, but the painters movement is needed, and multiple painters will be used combined to allow for the best motions to complete the painting. And once a new model is made, the painters will be needed again
@DravenNGRP yes, a few painters now will possibly lose their jobs, while a much more cost efficient, time efficient method of painting to perfection allows for a better overall future of the company. Sacrifices must be made unfortunately. With that argument you could say that the printing press shouldn't have been created because the people that used to write everything would lose their jobs to a machine that did it all
This is the fallacy of the excluded middle. Your argument is that it is all one way or all the other. This sort of thinking will lead to a dysfunctional economy. The technology S-curve will result in machines with enormous sophistication replacing humans in ever greater numbers. So, there will be a threshold where the economic assumptions will no longer make sense. Politicians will talk about "Winning the future" through productivity and competitiveness = lost margins. Collapse!
@Knossos22 of course it is not all one way, but the cost-effective way is the way that will be chosen, thats almost a given. These are businesses, and people will do what they need to do to make tasks easier, faster, better, etc. all with balance, If robots can do it, they will do it. We wont be overrun by robots eventually, this isnt terminator, thats blasphemous. While some jobs become extinct, new jobs will rise. Its how our ever evolving existence as humans is, striving to be better
Yeah, fill a garage with 50 classics that they do not drive?
Half of the human species lives on less than $5 a day? The human species, the most intelligent species of which we know, cannot design an economy that does not keep 2/3 of the population in poverty? 1/5 of the global population is depressed. Bet that has nothing to do with the fact that they will never buy a Lexus.
They are just looking to eat and drink clean water.
@siucarlos123 how many robot builders does an economy need though? Just like painters or any other profession there is marketability and there is market saturation.
And then the economists cannot figure out why there is not enough demand for the products produced by the machines that replace humans, eliminating the capital that flows into the hands that do the purchasing... Gee!
Does it take a rocket scientist to explain it to the politicians, economist, and capitalists?
Technology will only keep eliminating jobs until the economy is completely dysfunctional
@wanshei who cares? cheap labor will always be better and if you spent your life painting cars, you really are not needed by society and really need to go get a real job. go back to school and get a real degree
@Knossos22 nah that's real life. If you're skills are no longer needed, then there is no demand for you and you need to learn new skills i.e. go to school. That's why Toyota does so well, most of their plants are completely robotic and they don't even bother with unions. Long story short: 75% of manual labor can be and should be done by machines. Those people that have their job replaced need to find something better to do or they can just sit there and be poor and suck the money out of the gov
You have replaced god with capitalism. The belief in the invisible hand might as well be Santa. You act as if these are unquestionable assumptions. Missing a bigger picture?
If you are wrong then we are all really screwed!
Humankind creates a complex global economy. It evolves, breaks, and humankind faces global collapse i.e a few billion people die. - That is just fraking brilliant!
A question of when, not if?
Collectively, do we have the balls to look into this abyss?
@Ciscoql your comment shows how stupid you are (and im obviously not the only one to think so) matter of fact i have three degrees. They are worthless in this economy dumbass. You still believe in the old paradigm "to get a good job you have to have a good education" what an asshat.
@wanshei lol so if they are worthless, you're pretty much worthless too? why don't you get off youtube for a while then and find something good to do :) go make society better somehow Mr. I'm-Always-Right :D
so far these lexus commercials r making people think badly off them waste of leather with useless tests nd mass production of robots taking away people jobs so sum1 at the top can save money nd hav more billions htan he already has
The factories from Lexus are here in the U.S so what's the problem? Not American? Henry Ford himself and his parents were immigrants to this country. So just because his company has been here for X amount of years it makes it american? In my mind, if the factory is here and Americans work it then it's American. Tell Ford or Chevy to make a better car then may be I'll listen.
This completely contradicts the message from the "Wood Craftsmanship" commercial, where they basically say the "hard way" is having work done by real people instead of mass production.
Why can't they say that. I've owned an IS350 for 5 years and it runs great, no engine problems yet. At the same time my friend has gone through an F150, a Mustang and a malibu.
"the only way, is the hard way. we made sure that any human who could have done a better job than our robots, wouldn't. this way we keep our profit margins up, along with percentage of unemployed americans. we, are lexus."
@skillest1488 It isn't just the fact that they use robots, it is that the have the gall to claim that they are doing things the "hard way" be eliminating people from the floor.
I love to see huge companies like this brag about the fact that they are taking amazingly talented people who have "decades of experience" and making devise ways to make themselves obsolete.
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Eliminating jobs, the easy way.
Destructor2007 1 month ago
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Destructor2007 1 month ago
That's what loser company guys do !Fire people after sucking out their worth.
When recession happened, worldwide, this company did not lay off a single employee. It is not proof enough, shown the hard way to others. Hee Haw@#$
hibhasu 3 months ago
after they study the human motion, and then they kick out all the painter to save cost!
sololarc 3 months ago
So... the master painters with decades of experience are slowly losing their jobs to robots. great...
cmell 7 months ago 2
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Lexus sucks buy a ford tempo.
eddiechairez 7 months ago
@BuckyBeWild is the paint nano like mercedes?
RefreshChannel 7 months ago
154 people repainted their car
zunehdrocks 8 months ago
@zunehdrocks shut up
RefreshChannel 7 months ago
Don't people lose jobs cuz of this? Xd
lexusES350h 8 months ago
@lexusES350h People still make robots though
zunehdrocks 7 months ago
Good job lexus. put more hard working skilled labor out of jobs. the hard way. making it harder for people to support their family. how much did them robots cost again? lol
Whocares05050 1 year ago
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thetopazmercury 1 year ago
@Whocares05050 Get a real job? Is that all america can do is build cars?
Batmanshack 11 months ago
@Batmanshack Many do. and not that good either. UAW has destroyed the reputation the american people have when buying american cars. pretty sad. They get paid all that money, all that bitching, all those pensions and the american cars are all at the bottom of the list for cheap crap. Hey, atleast they have jobs right?...
Whocares05050 11 months ago
@Whocares05050 Maybe they each cost way less than a human's yearly salary or two? Saves them money in the long run. In the end, money is what matters the most (sadly).
rbishop 10 months ago
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You should be checking out the gas pedal.
uoyuoy444 1 year ago
this is pretty cool
cjedu808 1 year ago
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@cjedu808 Lexus sucks buy a ford tempo.
thetopazmercury 1 year ago
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thetopazmercury 1 year ago
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How do you STOP a lexus/toyota the HARD WAY a BRICK WALL
dandan121000 1 year ago
These advertisements are confusing... it values artistry over automation... but then automates the process for production. Huh?
fostytou 1 year ago
@fostytou Pretty sure its in reference to how their machines are claimed to replicate a painter's hand motions versus where BMW is totally automated in the sense their cars are actually dipped in the paints
blackXSpr 1 year ago
Or think about others car makers with their misleading ads (about consumption and performance) and what happen with their exploited workers in India (not American workers indeed). The curious thing, I'm pretty sure, the most of guys writing here are not even American, hehe... Am I wrong? :) American people are not that obsessed and dirty against anything (in this case a car maker). Smells 'brainwashing' :)
DtorBillAgain 1 year ago
@SuperDuperGameJunkie Sorry for telling but your comment makes no sense at all. 'The don't care about hiring people'... uhm.. Then, try to understand what happen with GM and the American government... (they sell Non-American cars as Americans cars betraying American people). And study about how a company works before writing comments typical from a obsessed, ignorant and uneducated person.
DtorBillAgain 1 year ago
148 'dislikes'... man, those guys should get a life instead of "showing" that complex of inferiority. Sad to not see the nationality of those 'dislikes', hehe.
Nice to see how a car maker value people instead of betraying as others car makers to get their money.
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@DtorBillAgain Lexus sucks buy a ford tempo.
thetopazmercury 1 year ago
@DtorBillAgain well said.
invizi0n 9 months ago
@BuckyBeWild You mean the robots do it for you and now you're out of a job! Hurrah!
tyso7540 1 year ago
@SuperDuperGameJunkie
I am awake! I am keeping up and try to contribute to make society as a whole to be better off.
Wake up! consequence, like it or not, is there! Dont tell the society to wait for you! Keep up dude! and dont forget to help those who are struggling! It is all about making the society a better place! Automation is not a bad thing!
victorhalim 1 year ago
@wanshei
Yes I can lose my job, and I guess that the consequence if I don't keep up. However the society as a whole will always be better off by more efficiency! Press printing replaced the job of millions of writers, and that is not a bad thing. I feel sorry for them though... but again, the society as a whole must be better off.
victorhalim 1 year ago
@victorhalim
your fucking sad, wake the fuck up.
SuperDuperGameJunkie 1 year ago
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thetopazmercury 1 year ago
78 people are fucking robots lol
lungs400 1 year ago
Maybe they could have a robot follow the actions of the CEO and then replace the CEO with a robot. Maybe the major shareholder's dealings could be automated too. Pass THAT savings on to the consumers! hahah
sinistar99 1 year ago
If anyone is keeping track of the robot scene than your aware of the sad truth, YOU as human are being replaced. 50 years ago it would've sounded crazy, but now we have robots being designed to wait on people in resteraunts, assist the elderly, etc. This commercial is a glimpse into the future. In the future, instead of competing against your fellow man for a job, you'll be competing against the latest robot. And what'll be the next option?? You as an out dated human, will need to be upgraded.
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3dwinjaramillo 1 year ago
Hey if any of you were smart enough you would learn that making machines do the work creates more jobs than what a painter would do. The reason is because in order to make the robot you have to create it and it takes thousands of people to make one robot. Then if you think about it you have to have someone who maintains the machine in working condition and you have to have someone programming it so in reality the machine might take one persons low paying job and create many high paying jobs.
3dwinjaramillo 1 year ago
@3dwinjaramillo Actually it creates a FEW high paying jobs and eliminates MANY lower, but not remedial artisan type jobs. All in all it's less jobs and less money and opportunities for workers. It only takes one programmer to write the program for a hundred of those arms. You're right, though the new technology does give you new opportunities beyond just the painter's job --I don't think it's presented here very well.
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victorhalim 1 year ago
You plan on putting MORE people out of jobs, replacing real artists with robots? The "hard way?" I think not. I'd call it the cheap-ass, "let's act like everyone else that's struggling to make a profit" way. By making these ads, you've attempted to separate yourselves from your german, italian, and other asian competitors by doing things "the hard way." Instead, you've proven that you're no different from the rest of them.
Like another commenter said, robots don't by cars...working people do.
exodusfman800 1 year ago
It makes more jobs for people who create the robots and program them. Those are better jobs than painting shit.
digitaldud 1 year ago
@wanshei
I feel sorry for those who lost their jobs, but you should LEARN ECONOMICS!
victorhalim 1 year ago
@victorhalim wait till you lose yours then go study economics. While you're waiting to be replaced by either an illegal alien or a robot you should see some videos on tent cities in america.
wanshei 1 year ago
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so in other words, people are going to lose their jobs to machines... again.
idunno456 1 year ago
lexus is basically saying that perfection = robots
UtUbEAdDiCcT13 1 year ago
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victorhalim 1 year ago
I think this is funny considering how the economy is, they're acting as if anyone can buy a Lexus who is this video really for? LOL
tbrooks2579 1 year ago
and this ladies and gentlemen...is why were in a recession. fucking robots taking over human jobs
gunsnroses0987 1 year ago
so replace hand crafted paint job with a robot all this is doing is proving that lexus is just another corporation
slye1991 1 year ago
@wanshei I've always thought it would be cool to see a car company charge less for it's vehicles because it costs less to produce them. If the auto industry continues in this way the whole thing could be automated and we could have nearly free cars, which could also be solar? powered. What do you think about that?
AHappyAtheist 1 year ago
@killamanjaro17 Bud, I totally agree. I was even gonna say the same thing. Admitting to cutting jobs and replacing them with machines, they even have to highlight their stupidity by a slogan that contradicts the whole message of the video.
hippyharrison 1 year ago
PLEASE STOP, ROBOTS DONT EAT, WE DO....THIS IS NOT A WAY TO GROW THE HUMAN WAY OF LIFE, USE YOUR MONEY TO MAKE US STRONGER NOT WEAKER....THANKS
00RayrayG 1 year ago
How about we train robots to be CEO's and upper management too?
twasbrillig33 1 year ago
@twasbrillig33 YESS!! YESS!! you said it.
athelija 1 year ago
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thetopazmercury 1 year ago
pretty damn ballsy making this commercial, you know? with all these people out of work in America, you decide to make a robot to do their job for them-oh wait! the cars aren't even made in America, so there were no jobs in the first place, how about that
jdoomkidr 1 year ago
@3dwinjaramillo It actually only takes thousands of people to create the high profile robots that are scientific breakthroughs, and those even have a team of 70 AT MOST. Also, to maintain all those machines there would be maybe 20 mechanics AT MOST compared to all those master craftsman painters.
hippyharrison 1 year ago
Eventually however, the world would be perfect if work didn't exist, because if no work is needed, then no money is needed; therefore everyone wins and is free to pursue their lifelong goals, interests, inner happiness and discovery as opposed to the jobs most people take which they barely even enjoy just to make ends meet; you can consider that everyone nowadays has to work their brains out to keep up with growing expenses. Whens the last time you say someone who loved their job, probably awhil
TrueVeracity 1 year ago
i bet u anything when they get the robot to put the person out of work the price is going to go up....ppl will be convinced the robot does a better job or painting and value it more therefor the raise prices....its all to get money for the CEO
kittykitty20052006 1 year ago
Why use robots when your currently using master technicians with decades of experience???
its doesnt make sense because they talk about sending out all those wood parts to get hand crafted instead of mass producing them in the wood craftsmanship vid
1234Robert5678 1 year ago
@1234Robert5678 Even if robots performed all the labors that humans don't want to do, we as a race would experience a golden age unlike any other where people could simply live free to be the people they wanted to be, not what their previous company employer wants them to be to maximize profits but just them, completely undistracted to pursue and achieve rather than to do the same thing at work everyday for the rest of their lives until they get old and remorse over the youth they lost.
TrueVeracity 1 year ago
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@TrueVeracity are you a robot?
dashitbitch13 1 year ago
@TrueVeracity lolz you need to factor in peace on earth, the end of crime, the end of all types of greed, the end of exploitation, the end of poverty and hunger, free and EQUAL education for all, free health care, and money falling from the sky before what you're talking about can happen. Robots can't do that...
It's nice to think about though. fact is, life's a bitch and we made it that way.
athelija 1 year ago
@athelija As a species it wasn't we, it was those who were lured by the prospects of some and total greed, many people in history chose not to abuse their financial power and influence instead choosing to stay within their means, while other companies decided to expand, grow, into new fields, adapt, and today discard American workers for the 3rd world low wage workers without hesitation. Wouldn't it be nice if one day, you'd be able to raise a child without the ruthless/dominating force of greed
TrueVeracity 1 year ago
What next? A robot painting the Mona Lisa? Ugh. I'd rather see a robot juggle kittens for all I care.
IceWarriorsArmy 1 year ago
just another job taken away from workers
NaBeHobby 1 year ago
next thing you know robots are going to be making artist painting
Jaysoto25 1 year ago
Lexus does have some very nice paint jobs
jose7777777777777777 1 year ago
Don't really care about the car but how the flip do people do those lights like that on camera?! I think it's so cool. I've seen them before and I want to know how.
Braye93 1 year ago
robots...taking our jobs/world one human at a time
iJake1996 1 year ago
im confused...they value master artistry by making machines copy the painter's motions?
sherrifully 1 year ago
well the price better go down if they dont have to pay all these people to make it
shawnm935 1 year ago
There's nothing like a few comments on a YouTube video to display America's lack of economic understanding. Using robots isn't killing jobs or "stealing" from the economy. Technology actually expands the economy by increasing output and production, meaning more money for Lexus stockholders to invest in other enterprises, leading to more jobs in those businesses and more jobs overall. Yes, using a robot can lead to higher employment.
gotsoccer119 1 year ago
So, All Lexus's "The Hard Way" project is pretty much telling us that if you buy a Lexus, its not made from skilled workers, its made by machines... And that they have pointless leather tests that outreach the limits of any wear on a car over its respectable life time, and that the people who put work into their company for so long are worthless to them? Wow, They really did fuck themselves over with this one.
milkman75454 1 year ago
lexus sucks
2010Case 1 year ago
this is terrible, this is why society is so screwed up these days :(
brandond707 1 year ago
you cant blame Lexus they said "the hard way is the only way" so i guess the people losing there jobs are just going to have to find out the hard way to have a perfect car.
bboyloco3 1 year ago
And then Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware and started to produce products for much cheaper rates than the Chinese and put them out of business!
ob1kanukie 1 year ago
@ob1kanukie Best comment so far.
Drivinfast247 1 year ago
"Every Lexus plant has master craftsmen"
Not anymore they don't.
And for this, the CEO makes hundreds of millions. Stay classy, scumba-I mean, guy...
tyso7540 1 year ago
Maybe they should train robots to be like this guy. Then the robot can do the commercial for him. See how he likes a robot doing his job.
ScionGuy7 1 year ago 12
there goes some more jobs
sk8erman94 1 year ago
they'll make more cars (Different designs)...so they'll still need master painters to do the motions for these cars. Everyone hates all these robots stealing human jobs. Understandable, but listen, you can't compete with expensive old ways of doing things. You can't stop progress.
rclcryan 1 year ago
@rclcryan Progress is battling poverty, not creating more by making workers redundant.
tyso7540 1 year ago
Think a bout it... Why just hire one or two painters when the Master Painter program means that programmers get factored into the economy, along with computer manufacturing, not to mention people to maintain said machines. In the end it could be used to create jobs, spread across more fields.
TheShinobiSan 1 year ago
Derk a durr!
gaarannja 1 year ago
How wide is the base of the pyramid of workers that leads to one master that can train your robot? You are destroying the skills you need and removing the soul from the autos you build.
PrepareForChaos 1 year ago
you'd think they could've predicted this would irritate people more than impress them
InnovationalFilms 1 year ago
they took arr jaaaaabs!!!!
raresul18 1 year ago
they took arr jaaaaabs!!!!
raresul18 1 year ago
In the end, your still driving a Lexus... a 350'000 pound Lexus.
TheFiji236 1 year ago
@TheFiji236 Still quite impressive.
TheFiji236 1 year ago
Yeah... the hard way values artistry over automation? Is that why they're teaching robots to do the artist's job?
killamanjaro17 1 year ago 46
ill go fix those robots once they screw up painting the cars yeee humans will prevail.
shalke08 1 year ago
Lexus dropped the ball on this one. Hope you did not pay the ad company too much. As stated in many of the comments - the sick irony of paying a guy to paint one car and then having a robot take it from there is pretty messed up. Bad call boys!
aaroncalhoun 1 year ago
woow really the only thing thats going to do is take the American peoples job
kevinjrroyal 1 year ago
Lol @ people talking about loss of jobs
>>implying new technology is bad
Gorereo 1 year ago
Although job loss isn't good, I can't say I blame them for moving on to robotics. I mean, take a look at computers even! Without computers, we could have so many more jobs (and less people slackin on the internet! lol). It all comes down to corporate productivity.
Chrismonchan 1 year ago
what is that light painting the guy is doing?
JOMOMMA1111 1 year ago
@JOMOMMA1111 its cgi...
Reijerkolle 1 year ago
Will the paint blend?
theit111 1 year ago
Q: why teach a robot to paint like humans?
A: For there can be less jobs thats why!!
joseluisA24 1 year ago 2
well the hard way is for a person to do it not a damn robot..........and this is why there are no jobs
bmws1000rrfan 1 year ago
how about teaching the fucking robot to prep the car? instead of us doing the hard work.
wilsob26 1 year ago
HAAHAHAHAHAAHAH Stupid Lexus XD
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1019149a 1 year ago
So they're trying to play off replacing people with robots as a good thing?
luanluan2006 1 year ago
soooo... there getting rid of jobs?
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I wonder if Lexus actually test marketed this ad, because almost everyone's response is "negative vibes" toward the tones of automation and mass produciton. This commercial is a total miss on lexus' part. And if I was going to by a shitty lexus, I'd at least prefer to buy one painted by hand, by an actual human.
cmikrich 1 year ago
I wonder if Lexus actually test marketed this ad, because almost everyone's response is "negative vibes" toward the tones of automation and mass produciton. This commercial is a total miss on lexus' part. And if I was going to by a shitty lexus, I'd at least prefer to buy one painted by hand, by an actual human.
cmikrich 1 year ago
@cmikrich yeah cause robots will only be good for sexx
DBZass 1 year ago
hahah puttin hard workers outta business this commercial is gonna backfire on lexus!
monkeyboy2264 1 year ago
Yeeeup nothing like finding a way to put people out of work. It always makes $en$e. Eventually you put enough people out of work you'll have no one to buy products. Dont get me wrong im all for technological development but there's a point when you have to weigh in the human factor. Robots dont buy cars.
wanshei 1 year ago 80
@wanshei not yet =O
Narutohi67 1 year ago
@wanshei Perhaps we may need more car manufacturers, then?
TheShinobiSan 1 year ago
@wanshei doing this frees up more people to do creative jobs and increase quality of life down the road. Also using robots makes the work cheaper in the long run and allows products to become cheaper, this making it easier for everyone to buy. If the only job you can do is shovel coal, push buttons, and turn screws then I don't care if you're unemployed.
regretlesssandiego7 1 year ago
@regretlesssandiego7 Im not unemployed ass hat i make $25@hr+, i was thinking about someone else other than myself. Something you might consider.
wanshei 1 year ago
@wanshei wasn't talking about YOU in particular. I'm saying in general, I don't have much sympathy for those who can't do work that requires some kind of intelligence. Nice job throwing your pay in there... I make more than that sometimes and I'm probably a lot younger than you are.
regretlesssandiego7 1 year ago
@regretlesssandiego7 That wouldnt surprise me, we are moving at a furious pace. By the time i finished my undergrad degree in computer information systems the entire architecture of computing had changed. This was 1992. By 1998 my neighbors 10 and 12 year olds were writing compilers and this was from a public school. I was obsolete by the time i graduated. Commercial art degree, took a little longer but NO commercial art is done by hand now. So it wouldnt surprise me at all that you make more.
wanshei 1 year ago
@wanshei but there aren't enough master painters left to paint the hundreds of thousands of cars produced every year.
And technology isn't inherently evil, people! It increases the output, which decreases price, which allows more purchases, which creates more demands, and more demands for luxury items, which creates more jobs.
ferrous719 1 year ago
@ferrous719 i hope you're right. I would enjoy being wrong about this. Honestly and i am gainfully employed and no im not a professional auto painter. I can do it, have done it and gotten paid for it. But as a profession... no.
wanshei 1 year ago
@wanshei Who do you think will design the robots? Who do you think will program the robots? Who do you think will repair the robots? Replaceing workers with robots will take jobs away, but it will also create jobs.
CallMeSparky1 1 year ago
@wanshei Hey if you were smart enough you would learn that making machines do the work create more jobs than what a painter would do. the reason is because in order to make the robot you have to create it and it takes thousands of people to make one robot. Then if you think about it you have to have someone who maintains the machine in working condition and you have to have someone programming it so in reality the machine might take one persons low paying job and create many executive jobs.
3dwinjaramillo 1 year ago
@3dwinjaramillo actually its long term repercussions effect more people's jobs because yes, people need to make the robot (i dontknow where you got thousands of people to make one root, thats outrageous) But, when that robot can do one's job, there is no need for them so really, it IS taking more jobs, just as wanshei said. It can really go full circle and both sides can be argued, just looking at a different aspect
bexysutt 1 year ago
@wanshei robots also don't need to be paid. they may need to be maintained and bought of course, but in the long run vehicles would become cheaper, and sure maybe they wouldn't be able to paint the cars anymore, but a painter or a team of painters is still needed to program them
Dieselfeel 1 year ago
@Dieselfeel Painters don't program robots. One man is needed to map out the movements, the technology then keeps it and replicates it forever.
DravenNGRP 1 year ago
@DravenNGRP right, but the painters movement is needed, and multiple painters will be used combined to allow for the best motions to complete the painting. And once a new model is made, the painters will be needed again
Dieselfeel 1 year ago
@Dieselfeel Yeah, I love working 5-6 days every year too.
DravenNGRP 1 year ago
@DravenNGRP yes, a few painters now will possibly lose their jobs, while a much more cost efficient, time efficient method of painting to perfection allows for a better overall future of the company. Sacrifices must be made unfortunately. With that argument you could say that the printing press shouldn't have been created because the people that used to write everything would lose their jobs to a machine that did it all
Dieselfeel 1 year ago
@Dieselfeel
This is the fallacy of the excluded middle. Your argument is that it is all one way or all the other. This sort of thinking will lead to a dysfunctional economy. The technology S-curve will result in machines with enormous sophistication replacing humans in ever greater numbers. So, there will be a threshold where the economic assumptions will no longer make sense. Politicians will talk about "Winning the future" through productivity and competitiveness = lost margins. Collapse!
Knossos22 1 year ago
@Knossos22 of course it is not all one way, but the cost-effective way is the way that will be chosen, thats almost a given. These are businesses, and people will do what they need to do to make tasks easier, faster, better, etc. all with balance, If robots can do it, they will do it. We wont be overrun by robots eventually, this isnt terminator, thats blasphemous. While some jobs become extinct, new jobs will rise. Its how our ever evolving existence as humans is, striving to be better
Dieselfeel 1 year ago
@wanshei Hey at least they are putting people out of work "The Hard Way"
lol
VehementOgre 1 year ago
@wanshei
people that design and build robots buy cars. They probably have more money to buy cars than a painter does.
siucarlos123 1 year ago
@siucarlos123
Yeah, fill a garage with 50 classics that they do not drive?
Half of the human species lives on less than $5 a day? The human species, the most intelligent species of which we know, cannot design an economy that does not keep 2/3 of the population in poverty? 1/5 of the global population is depressed. Bet that has nothing to do with the fact that they will never buy a Lexus.
They are just looking to eat and drink clean water.
Knossos22 1 year ago
@Knossos22
too bad, thats capitalism. it sucks to be poor.
siucarlos123 1 year ago
@siucarlos123
Don't you mean it sucks to be human?
Knossos22 1 year ago
@Knossos22
no
siucarlos123 1 year ago
@siucarlos123
So capital make you superior to other humans?
Knossos22 1 year ago
@Knossos22 no you should just go study economics.
siucarlos123 1 year ago
@siucarlos123
I have.
Knossos22 1 year ago
@siucarlos123 how many robot builders does an economy need though? Just like painters or any other profession there is marketability and there is market saturation.
wanshei 1 year ago
@wanshei
And then the economists cannot figure out why there is not enough demand for the products produced by the machines that replace humans, eliminating the capital that flows into the hands that do the purchasing... Gee!
Does it take a rocket scientist to explain it to the politicians, economist, and capitalists?
Technology will only keep eliminating jobs until the economy is completely dysfunctional
Knossos22 1 year ago
@wanshei who cares? cheap labor will always be better and if you spent your life painting cars, you really are not needed by society and really need to go get a real job. go back to school and get a real degree
Ciscoql 1 year ago
@Ciscoql
This is an inane ignorant comment.
Knossos22 1 year ago
@Knossos22 nah that's real life. If you're skills are no longer needed, then there is no demand for you and you need to learn new skills i.e. go to school. That's why Toyota does so well, most of their plants are completely robotic and they don't even bother with unions. Long story short: 75% of manual labor can be and should be done by machines. Those people that have their job replaced need to find something better to do or they can just sit there and be poor and suck the money out of the gov
Ciscoql 1 year ago
@Ciscoql
You have replaced god with capitalism. The belief in the invisible hand might as well be Santa. You act as if these are unquestionable assumptions. Missing a bigger picture?
If you are wrong then we are all really screwed!
Humankind creates a complex global economy. It evolves, breaks, and humankind faces global collapse i.e a few billion people die. - That is just fraking brilliant!
A question of when, not if?
Collectively, do we have the balls to look into this abyss?
Knossos22 1 year ago
@Ciscoql your comment shows how stupid you are (and im obviously not the only one to think so) matter of fact i have three degrees. They are worthless in this economy dumbass. You still believe in the old paradigm "to get a good job you have to have a good education" what an asshat.
wanshei 1 year ago
@wanshei lol so if they are worthless, you're pretty much worthless too? why don't you get off youtube for a while then and find something good to do :) go make society better somehow Mr. I'm-Always-Right :D
Ciscoql 1 year ago
@Ciscoql you're right being right all the time does get kinda boring especially when im jousting with a donkey.
wanshei 1 year ago
@wanshei haha i was about to say the same thing
jhonc95 1 year ago
@wanshei Maybe they will some day. *snort*
EnragedSephiroth 4 months ago
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so far these lexus commercials r making people think badly off them waste of leather with useless tests nd mass production of robots taking away people jobs so sum1 at the top can save money nd hav more billions htan he already has
familyklok 1 year ago
The factories from Lexus are here in the U.S so what's the problem? Not American? Henry Ford himself and his parents were immigrants to this country. So just because his company has been here for X amount of years it makes it american? In my mind, if the factory is here and Americans work it then it's American. Tell Ford or Chevy to make a better car then may be I'll listen.
skillest1488 1 year ago
This completely contradicts the message from the "Wood Craftsmanship" commercial, where they basically say the "hard way" is having work done by real people instead of mass production.
digitalharassment 1 year ago
Why can't they say that. I've owned an IS350 for 5 years and it runs great, no engine problems yet. At the same time my friend has gone through an F150, a Mustang and a malibu.
skillest1488 1 year ago
"the only way, is the hard way. we made sure that any human who could have done a better job than our robots, wouldn't. this way we keep our profit margins up, along with percentage of unemployed americans. we, are lexus."
bassxchill 1 year ago
This is hilarious. I think Lexus's marketing department really slipped up with this one.
Semudara 1 year ago
@Semudara They really ought to pull this video now as damage control.
camteam 1 year ago
oh THATS GOOD NO HARD WORKING CAR PAINTERS ARE OUT OF A JOB! COME ON IN ROBOTS ITS YOUR TIME TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!
JumpBrothersTV 1 year ago
And what the hell, at least LEXUS uses a Master painter. Chevy and for only use Robots. Why aren't you hypocrites complaining about that.
skillest1488 1 year ago
@skillest1488 It isn't just the fact that they use robots, it is that the have the gall to claim that they are doing things the "hard way" be eliminating people from the floor.
camteam 1 year ago
I love to see huge companies like this brag about the fact that they are taking amazingly talented people who have "decades of experience" and making devise ways to make themselves obsolete.
camteam 1 year ago
You can tell they didn't screen this commercial in front of any kind of test audience. Way to go!
sinistar99 1 year ago
The hard way Is... Affording the bitch. -_____-
SkillrSilvia 1 year ago
We can use the motions of the master painter to program the robot to KILL THE MASTER PAINTER HAHAHAHA!
sinistar99 1 year ago
the hard way s saying hey master car painter help us design a robot to take your job? good one lexas
iratherhavegooglevid 1 year ago
So lexus painters are training robots to take over their jobs?
Ryan44567 1 year ago
@Ryan44567 exactly my thought... making robots paint is the EASIER way. No work needed after the robot memorizes the algorithm
ilikewiigames 1 year ago