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  • What exactly is a "jew" ? it certainly isnt a "Race" as they are the most mongrelised people on earth, having lived all over the world for many centuries befor israel was formed .. And it not a faith, as when i was there most couldnt care less about religion

  • Alan Heath is a fool. Its laughable to listen to his constipated and narrow viewpoint. He's unable to debate and consider any other viewpoint that deviates from his own rigid and indeed frigid opinions. A premier league idiot.

  • @sail1948 In my experience he considers all sorts of viewpoints and checks his facts carefully. Your words are meaningless, possibly even anti-semantic.

  • @usenetposts Anti semantic?!! I stand by what I said: Alan Heath is a narrow minded self important psuedo intellectual. If thats anti "semantic" so be it.

  • @sail1948 It is anti-semantic. It is entirely contrary to being meaningful. Especially the part where you accused him of being "psuedo intellectual". Now don't you step on my blue psuede shoes no more, or you ain't nothing but a hound dog.

  • If all things are relative, the way Mr Einstein argued, should we not more deeply mourn the circa fifty million Christian deaths than the three million [sic?] Jewish deaths? I never understood why this was an expressly Jewish holocaust.

    I will say that I deem the cowardly murder of the circa three+ million German civilians which arose as a result of the Allied bombing campaigns, warfare expressly objected to and resisted by the Reich, were among the most egregious.

    /watch?v=NNWRqhROVgs

  • @thespacialone Nobody is trying to deny the deaths of the Allied bombings, or seriously state that they were anything other than revenge. Nevertheless, the revenge attacks in Dresden and Nagasaki after the war was effectively won anyway were clearly a display of the baser side of human nature. Given what the German and Japanese sides had perpertrated, though, in a sense they were both lucky that the revenge attacks weren't even worse than they were.

  • @usenetposts You completely missed my point. The Allied bombing campaign had nothing to do with revenge, but was a malicious and unprovoked attack against the German people, a true hate crime, heroically resisted for three months by the Reich before acting in kind. You might find it instructive to see what Hitler actually had so say about war criminal Churchill; but, then again, I've found people committed to their pleasant fictions rarely disposed to supplicate the more sobering truth.

  • @usenetposts I would hardly call Nagasaki a revenge attack. If anything, it probably saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Before the atomic attacks the Americans calculated that an invasion of Japan would cost one million Allied and twenty million Japanese lives.

    As for the allegation that three million Germans died in Allied bombing, it is just preposterous. No doubt this claim will not be backed up by saying where these attacks took place.

  • Sorry, I thought you replied to me in private. I know what you mean about affected displays of emotion etc, but so much time has passed that you cannot really say it is personal thing. Also, as I replied in private, the genocide against the Jewish race was terrible and is recognised as such. The indigenous European male population was destroyed in these two wars. It is highly unlikely that England would have been allowed to go down the road it has (welfare state etc) is this hadn't happened.

  • To be honest, I think the comments from yourself as interviewer are a little disrespectful to the dead of WWI. You rightly speak respectfully of the Jewish dead - you let yourself down a little with the wisecracks. I hope you don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. Its merely an observation.

  • That's OK, but at the end of the day remembering the dead ought maybe to be done naturally, not with the displays of acted solemnity that the professional media are so practised at and that we are so used to seeing. Normal people, remembering the dead in the course of a normal, easy conversation emphasis that life does go on, willingly or unwillingly, they died so that life would go on . I wouldn't want to have to adapt a special act or face in order to talk with a historian about history.

  • Actually Alan, the JDL did issue a fatwa (for lack of a better word) against David Cole. Their website still has a page about Mr Cole but some of the most threatening stuff has been removed.

    The JDL says they renounce terrorism as a legitimate means to achieve political goals (ironic considering Jews in Palestine used terrorism against the British) but the JDL doesn't renounce violence. They are, in fact, probably the most violent Jewish organization at least in the United States.

  • Alan and I argue but these videos are great. I really mean that. The David Irving developments are compelling.

  • The Lavon Affair has little if anything to do with this video. If you wish to discuss the Lavon Affair I suggest you do so on a VIDEO ABOUT THE LAVON AFFAIR.

    Also LeatherShorts, (AKA SewnSeed AKA Handsoffjimmy) creating your own allies in the form of multiple registrations will get you nowhere.

    I also suggest you actually listen to what Alan is saying from 6:52 - 7:54. What do you have to say to that?

    Cheers.

  • well said!

  • Thanks. I can't stand trolls.

  • Villa Moldoava - I live near there - why did n't you come to my place instead?

  • I got an even better idea, next time you come with us!

  • Did he say that the JDL is NOT a violent, terrorist group? What a fucktard.

    "FBI statistics show that from 1980 through 1985, there were 18 terrorist attacks in the U.S. committed by Jews; 15 of those by members of the JDL."

    And he calls others liars. Typical.

  • Hang on. Who are you quoting in those quotation marks?

  • I wonder if 'mightisright' will back up his claim and say who he is referring to in his statement.

    I suspect the claim on the FBI is also a fabrication.

  • And I totally agree with Alan on the Austrian imprisonment of Irving. It was a disgrace. I know no inside facts but it must have been partly political - i mean cowardice at the minstry of justice to stand up to baying pressure groups.

  • Irving frequently asks "why haven't the ever jews asked: "why us?"". He is tapping a vein in popular culture - the jews are avaricious, etc. Highly selective view. They have been a land less ethnic group harassed by pogams against them. Thier refuge, in part, has been the landless world of international finance. Irving sees it in the negative and thinks they have themselves to blame, as they built up a head of steam which was the holocaust, a view that lacks any sympathy or generosity.

  • So what if jews have a persecution complex? Considering their nomadic history that would be hardly surprising. The guy with the biggest persecution complex of course was Hitler with phobias about worldwide Jewish conspiracies etc, not to mention leading Nazi (ie. we have to kill the woman and children as well as they are bound to get us in the end if we don't). I simply can't decipher any more phobias in Jews than non-jews, or any other bheaviour differences. Anti-semitism has always baffled me.

  • I don't know Davey. Why would the British inquisition falsify the interogation of Joan D'arc?

  • You tell me!

  • I just read the testamony. He's the historian.

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