The Tudors Finale:Dream sequence-Henry sees Jane Seymour

[johnsamuels1]

the king was a fool just like other englishmen

[mckfrr]

@1violalass. Historical records say she was buried next to Anne, but it's not known if later she was moved or buried deeper away from Anne when they buried more people who were executed that has happened before. Since she's not wearing a I am Catherine Howard sign on her, we don't which skeleton is her's. It's pretty sad though.

[TheGirlGirl98]

i really thinnk she was his true love, when he hears her voice he looks like he made peace with his soul. and just watch the scene from when she died, he prayed for her. almost all of his queens died but she was the only on who died still married to him. katherine of aragorn, anne boleyn and katherine howard were all divorced when they died. jane died in his arms. (not in reallity, but in the tudors ) :)

[MACABREMARIPOSA]

"Kings too, are made of clay."

[lvngdgl12]

Everyone likes to go on about how he asked Anne not to go, but look at his face when he hears Jane's voice :)

[peacedesertrose]

@lvngdgl12 i know! also we don't know whether he would have asked anne to not go, as he says 'anne please don't' i guess its for the viewer to decide.

[ALIASMOTH]

@lvngdgl12

I think both Anne and Jane held some portion of Henry's heart and soul so i think they tried to show that with the dream sequence

[mckfrr]

@faeryquene. You need their bones for that, obviously you won't find Anne Boleyn or Catherine Howard's bones, because they were buried along with other hundreds of execution victims, you can't tell who's who, because their bodies withered away, all that's left is their bones, but there's so many bodies in there, can't tell, but I hope they can do that with the Queens that were buried, like Jane Seymour.

[MultiInterestViewer]

@mckfrr

Actually Anne Boleyn's bones have been found. They were put in the chapel somewhere in a container (but not a coffin). They've been found. Though whether they were identified for sure using modern technology I have no idea. Don't know about Catherine though.

[ZoeCEubanks]

@MultiInterestViewer She buried at st.peters

[1violalass]

@mckfrr Not true, they're buried next to each other in the chapel at the Tower of London, hence Anne's comment about Catherine being in the ground next to her.

[19Cadence]

To Lawrence, Agreed

[victoryantic]

a king had 3 children and they all had ruled amazing !!

[faeryquene]

Thank you for posting this! I love love love this final dream sequence! So many brilliant scenes in this series-sparkling like jewels here and there.

[mulan4ever14]

you know what's funny? jane wasn't even pretty in real life. have you ever seen her portraits?

[faeryquene]

@mulan4ever14 For the age she was probably considered alright looking. None of the Queens really looked particularly pretty to modern eyes. Of course they are portraits-I wonder what they might look like in photograph form. It's possible for them to perhaps one day do some kind of digital imaging as they did with King Tut.

[ALFREDOPOKEMON]

My poor poor child!! he will die so young...

You expected too much from him!!!

He was only a boy!!

[cstar331]

i wish Henry loved all of his kids equally buti am glad that Jane got to speak to him

[PrincessKarrah]

I love how Anne Jane and Kathrine finaly got to speak there mind to Henry

[livi334]

it's kinda tight that the wives that he grew tired of all said that they loved him, and the one that he truely loved just  said how he killed his son

[niuniek0612]

Ok, I understand. But I'm still convinced Henry knew Anne was innocent. Yet, he allowed her to punished so severe 'cause he had to have a heir to the throne and given his history with Katherine, he was scared that after one child being dead, it'd be impossible for him and Anne to have a living son. Yet, many people didn't consider Anne his truly wife and Elizabeth was called a bastard. So how in such a situation arrange for her marriage etc....

[bopbopanna]

I think Henry's wives represent his guilty conscience and fears.

[irapirachu]

I love this scene *.*

[TheMissAnneB]

What a beautiful voice (Jane Seymour)!

[chocolatefountain95]

It's proof, Henry, NO ONE LOVES YOU!!!

[PrincessKarrah]

I was shocked that Anne was not this harsh on Herney

[HistoryLover1550]

Would've also been cool if Henry had visions of his kids as they would be in the future.

[niuniek0612]

@HistoryLover1550 The visions would be great. But at least Jane said Edward was going to die. So the next perosn in the line to the throne is Mary and later Elizabeth. Henry knew Elizabeth was so much alike him and Anne and she had potential to become the great queen.

[HistoryLover1550]

@niuniek0612 True

[BoukenCrimson]

Jane's words were prophetic.

[datnorthphillychic]

I dont really get Jane's speech.

Can someone explain it to me?

[niuniek0612]

@datnorthphillychic She said Henry's attitude towards Edward'd cost Edward life in the future. Henry took all care of his son by the means of sending him away from the court so Edward'd be brought up in deases free countryside at the same time stay away from his father. On the other hand, Elizabeth and Mary were neglected and treated like rubbish and Elizabeth made a great queen. Mary also took care of herself but her politics were highly influenced by her faith.

[NNeeCChhAA]

Sorry do you know the name of this song in soundtrack?

[perello007]

anyone else think the music is beautiful? I hope it's in the soundtrack!

[ahamiltonx]

Havent they edited his voice.

I'm glad she got her say too :)

[sweetheart2109]

nice jane

[TheLeaveTaking]

it's funny how, when he feels Jane's presence in the room, he breathes in deeply, as if she's his salvation. his most beloved. and then she goes and accuses him of all these things, poor henry did not expect that ;)

yeah, finally, she's no longer "bound to obey and serve".

[PrincessSybilla77]

I always thought that Catherine Parr was the grown up version of Jane. She told Henry the truth too. He was an absent father to Edward and like Henry, Edward was surrounded by men who would influence all his actions.

[BoleynofAragon21]

take that evil hag!!! henry viii you did kill all the good in your children especially mary. I don't like jane but glad she told him that!

[happybkwrm]

How did Henry ruin Edward's health. Lots of kids died young.

[AmethystPiscesNix]

far and away the best dream sequence out of the three. i get the feeling that Maria and Natalie struggled to slide back into their previously brilliant performances but Annabelle nailed hers hands down

[princessUSA2]

Her dream sequence was the most dramatic I think. Especially when she goes "You KILLED him!"

[iluvwinterweather]

Go Jane! She and Henry both loved their boy, but in the end mother knows best.

[orliluv]

haha:) finally miss "Serve and Obey" stands up to him! somebody needed to, even if it was a dead person haha:) but i wished she would say elizabeth would be the great queen too haha:) and i wished there was more anne (i just love anne) i actully wished anne told him elizabeth would be a great queen, it would sound so awsome coming from her:)

[phoebepadme87]

" Kings too are made of clay" That was such a great comment.. Henry though he was a god... but at the end he realizes that like everyone else in this world... he would die.... like a regular human being

[NotThatClueless]

I love the way he is affected by her words...it portrays their relationship well.

As a side note- God, this soundtrack is beautiful.

[TheRobpattzlover]

Anne is may favorite, but I think Jane is the most beautiful of Henry's wives.

[lostpinguin]

i'm glad jane got to speak her mind, and she's so beautiful too!

[Liesel93]

@lostpinguin It was about time she had the chance to

[peacefulvillage]

Go Jane! Henry had made her silent but now she gets to finally speak her mind!

[MissJasperHale18]

Jane's scene was my favorite.

I loved Anne's too! But, I'm to sad to think it has ended. :(

[niuniek0612]

I hope that Jane would continue her speech and tell Henry that it's Elizabeth who would reign England and become the great QUEEN; I enjoyed her appearance most; Anne's lines disappointed me; He didn't know taht she was innocent - can only laugh :):)

[sweetheart2109]

@niuniek0612 I was hoping Anne Boleyn would say that.

[niuniek0612]

@sweetheart2109 So was I; i am a great Anne fan but her lines disappointed me hugely. Henry didn't know she was innocent???? And when she started talking about Kitty my hope was murdered. I knew Natalie Dormer's last performance on "The Tudors" has been vasted. On the other hand, I ednjoyed Jane's lines, They were great and told notjing but the truth. Henry has had great expectations of Edward but it'll be Elizabeth who'd be Henry's spitting image and a great QUEEN England has ever had.

[sweetheart2109]

@niuniek0612 well going by history Anne's was innocent but people mainly Lady Rochford falsely ascuse her. Sorry for spelling error

[niuniek0612]

@sweetheart2109 Jane Parker got her just deserts. But Anne's blood and sacrifice had an great end in Elizabeth who'd comemorate her mother by secretly wearing a ring with her image through all her life.

[HistoryLover1550]

@niuniek0612 I was kinda mad at the episode when Jane Parker was about to be beheaded, that she didn't confess to lying about the incest charge between Anne and George, I was expecting that.

[marthiieb00]

@niuniek0612 she was wonderful she wanted to prove a point and she smiled at the end because she knew that she could still control henry and even though he tried to lie he knew she was innocent. She wanted him to acknowledge that he was the reason for her death and Katherine was just a child she didn't have a choice.

[HistoryLover1550]

@niuniek0612 Ikr that would've been cool.

[NocturneViolin]

@niuniek0612

Maybe those words were because Anne thinks that all accusation were created foe excuse Henry's decision. Not because he truly think that she was unfaithful to him.

Well, at last this is my interpretation xD

[niuniek0612]

@NocturneViolin All the accusations were created to get rid of Anne and free Henry to marry Jane. Henry was highly dissapointed in Anne 'cause their son were stillborn. And he had had experience with Katherine on that matter. Anne also wasn't a docile wife and spoke her mind openly whereas Jane learnt her lesson taking Anne as an example and didn't open her mouth when it wasn't needed. Having survived the birth and bore a daughter, her fate would be comparable to Katherine and Anne's. MISERY!!!

[NocturneViolin]

@niuniek0612

Yeah, my comment were refer to Anne's words in the Dream sequence " I tought you knew..".

I know how the story goes and is truly horrible and disgusting how Henry treats his wives.

[niuniek0612]

@NocturneViolin Ok, I understand. But I'm still convinced Henry knew Anne was innocent. Yet, he allowed her to punished so severe 'cause he had to have a heir to the throne and given his history with Katherine, he was scared that after one child being dead, it'd be impossible for him and Anne to have a living son. Yet, many people didn't consider Anne his truly wife and Elizabeth was called a bastard. So how in such a situation arrange for her marriage etc....

[NocturneViolin]

@niuniek0612

Yes, I think that too. I also think that Henry was really convinced ( in some way) that he was really the one which God " talking to" ( pass me the terms, please). So, if something isn't right or pleasent for himself, is because God is saying that that is a wrong thing for him and for England, too. I don't know if Henry was selfish but really convinced in what he said or he was only a very little man with too much power.

Also he must found horrible accusations for

[NocturneViolin]

@niuniek0612

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annul the marriage with Anne.

Catherine was died only few months earlier and then he was free to divorce and take an other wife, instead risk to be forced to return with Catherine.

But with all the mess he caused for marry Anne, he couldn't " only" divorced.

At that point Anne had two or three miscarriages, for Henry was enough for thinking that God wanted for him an other wife.

In anycase thanks for the answers and excuse me for my bad ( BAD! x.x) English! ^^

[niuniek0612]

@NocturneViolin Henry always considered himself as having a great personality. He must have been so full of himself when Pope awarded him the title of the Defender of Faith after Luter's thesis. After all, he was the KING and everyone had to serve and obey and did as they were told :):):)

[aslyn01]

@niuniek0612 It's not arrogance the way we see it in modern times - such things were as natural to the aristocracy then. The King was considered God's anointed on the throne, so such men were considered answerable only to God. That was the nature of their birthright. I doubt he felt full of himself - honestly, I would think anyone of such title would either abuse it or be burdened by the responsibility. I think Henry was the latter.

[faeryquene]

@aslyn01 I think Henry abused it very much indeed when he ordered the deaths of people like Anne, and George Boleyn, not to mention the executions of the Plantagenet line including Margaret, The Countess Salisbury, a harmless old woman-it was judicial murder, no more no less. He even had a child imprisoned for the majority of his days just because he was a Plantagenet. And he treated both of his daughters horrifically. The man was a child and wife abuser in every sense of the word.

[faeryquene]

@niuniek0612 I was hoping she'd tell him BOTH Mary and Elizabeth would be Queen Regnants respectively.

[3edere]

@niuniek0612 Actually Henry VIII did know that Ann was innocent since he made sure that false accusation would be fabricated in order to justify his intention to get rid of her. I think that Henry VIII and Ann played for such a high stake that in the end they really hated each other. In any case, I don't see why Jane Seymour had to accuse Henry VIII to have killed their son. In that period loads of children died of diseases and surely Henry VIII did everything he could to protect his only son. 

[SuperSon98]

@niuniek0612 yeah i think that would (mind my phrasing) teach the old basterd a lesson

[niuniek0612]

@SuperSon98 Yeah, definitely :):):)

[lawrence5584]

@niuniek0612 Anne was never innocent. She may not have slept with her accusers, but her scheming and pursuit of a married man certainly warranted the death she received. I always liked Jane. Henry pursued her, and she accepted the situation as best she could, without resorting to the venom Anne used. it is perfectly ironic; Henry puts so much stock on his son that it literally kills him, and the daughters whom he dismisses as nothing forge two key periods in British history.

[mascaragirl818]

uggh the video isnt working, what happend?

[keishabaxter2]

I feel so sad for henry but at least jane finally was able to speak up

[SwoopSui]

Its great to see Jane tell Henry what is truly in her mind.