Seaking Helicopter Aerobatics Vertical Wingover

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[mathewstw]

I really never did this wingover or hellobatics in a Seaking because I respect its size and weight. But Alloutte, I do it with 90 deg noseup at 45k kick rudder to turn the nose vertically down and continue going up with the tail up now. It stops in a few seconds, then comes down vertically. Use the collective to get lateral speed and then pull the stick back lowering collective a bit and again pull collective, build up the speed to 100 k at 10 feet from the ground and pull up for another one.

[Seaking8959]

120KIAS, nose up to 30°, When Speed reaches 60KIAS initiate pedal turn. Should bring you out at 120KIAS about the same level as you started with 180° different direction, if I remember that right. :)

[mjm9536]

@WhyDidIBuyThis Negative collective is not required. ANY helicopter can do this that has a vertical fin. And it does not require any pedal input beyond staying in trim. You pitch up, roll the nose, and aerodynamics takes over from there dropping the nose. Doing it without roll and pushing the tail with pedals is very unsafe.

[mathewstw]

@mjm9536  In a Seaking at 21,500 lbs all up weight, the max allowed nose up is 10 deg, nose down is 2 degree, exception is a vortex ring recovery of 15 deg, max angle of bank allowed 30 degrees, and do you still think with these manufacturer imposed limitations the Seaking helicopter can still do all these? Some daring pilots take it beyond all allowed limits and still live to tell the tale. Normally this manoeuvre would have chopped off the entire tail boom.

[mjm9536]

@mathewstw You said those limits are at max gross that is a whole different story. Strictly looking at rotary wing areodynamics, with forward speed, if you pitch up enough, and just use lateral cyclic to roll and hold it air will catch the vertical fin and swing the nose around to the ground in any conventional helo. I fly 58D's and I know our pitch roll limits are often exceeded. The limitations are always written as do not *intentionally* exceed pitch angles of blah blah for a reason lol

[mathewstw]

@mjm9536 I have flown the Alloutte III's where I used to do this manoeuvre. But then I was not married. With seaking I cannot even imagine it because its 62 feet dia rotors are known to chop the tail boom with high nose up. Even the MGB runs dry in a few seconds and gives grinding sounds in high noseup. I have tried 60 deg nose up and down plus 60 deg bank to both sides and she just loses height. It is very sluggish on controls and I do not want to experiment.

But nice to talk to a pilot.

[mjm9536]

@mathewstw I never said I would attempt it in a sea king haha. Point was just based on aerodynamics, in any single rotor helicopter with a vertical fin, if you nose up to 30 degrees or so with enough forward speed, roll to either side the tail will swing up and bring the nose to the ground. Theory? Every time. Do it in a 10 ton helicopter? hell no haha. The 58D's I fly are 5000lb sports cars and its fun every time as long as you stay in trim and don't side sliding sideways lol

[jimbo99ful]

Seen a Chinook and Lynx do it (real world).

[PsyiiTroX]

i can do that with my rc heli ^^ 

[KingNothingism]

looks like it's on a half pipe or something

[mathewstw]

@TimKGrimes Dad are you a Helicopter Pilot ?

[bakkerrich1979]

fake bullshit defying the laws of physics

[mathewstw]

I agree that this is just an animation. I made it because I can't do it in this helicopter. But in the other small more agile helicopters I fly, I have been doing it with ease. And please understand that I am learning how to do animation. But this is not defying any laws of gravity. My animation happens to be slow. If done properly, this seaking helicopter animation maneuver is possible and is done many helicopter pilots world over, specially with rigid rotors.

[mathewstw]

@bakkerrich1979 It is only an animation. I can't animate it any better. But I fly it much better.

[matoy77]

@bakkerrich1979 Well at a higher altitude and with speed carried into the bends, it is possible.

[WhyDidIBuyThis]

@bakkerrich1979 this is possible with a helicopter that you has negative collective. obviously you couldnt do it that low... but it would be possible high in lé sky

[TheeDrunkunMunky]

@bakkerrich1979 REALLY, thats fake? Oh shit i thought it was real

[Scorpac]

WOW THATS REALLIFE I SAW THAT OH MY GOD THATS NO GAME OH MY GOOOOD!!!! /joke off

[RealityCk62]

@mathewstw:

I'm an old helio driver from some 30+ years ago: Bell 47 and a few others since then.

Don't you wish you had a 'Cray Supercomputer' to use for 'rendering' animation?

Regards...

[mathewstw]

Yes. But now the computers are little better they take only a few hours.

[cantmakemelaugh1]

rolfcopter :D

[TheHavoc76]

OOOOH LE FAKE

[mathewstw]

NO, it is a real animation that I made friend. If you can't differentiate between an animation and the reality, then I win with my Seaking Helicopter Animation here.

[alexmun133]

were not in the 35th century yet

[sam93d]

@alexmun133 What do you mean by that?

[mathewstw]

I mean I have been successful in my animation that somebody has really taken the video for a real helicopter in action.

[mathewstw]

I mean I have been successful in my animation that somebody has really taken the video for a real helicopter in action.

[bbloops]

Le pilote qui fait ça est baleze ^^

[mathewstw]

I don't know if you can read English. This Seaking Helicopter animation took me night after night of sleeplessness over a month to design and render. And you called it something in some language with a thumpsup downwards? How mean friend.

[bbloops]

I just said that the pilot would be able to do that would be a pro. I'm French and I'm 13 so please be indulgent: I do not speak very well and does not understand English very well and I think there was confusion about what I say in French ... Excuse me. Otherwise, good job: the animation was well done! ;)

[mathewstw]

Thanks for the prompt reply and clearing my misunderstanding and the compliment.

When I made this Seaking helicopter animation, I was learning a 3D program. I have actually flown this helicopter and I can tell you this big Seaking helicopter over twenty thousand pounds cannot do this maneuver except in an animation. So I just let my imagination go wild.

You are the youngest guy to have touched my heart. Thanks young man.

[syeager9]

I used to fly Robinson 22. There was a special warning about pulling cyclic too fast on low speeds. It's despite the fact that main rotor is positioned rather high up. But it was almost 20 years ago and don't remember details. However some helicopters with rigid rotor design are capable of such maneuvers. There are videos of real helicopter aerobatics here. So it's possible.

[mathewstw]

I agree. But Seaking helicopters cannot do it. They are designed to hover for hours together. They have big slow rotors which can spell death if not flown carefully.

[syeager9]

First of all we have to define the utility of helicopters. It's moving cargo like humans or construction pieces for short distances. Military applications may include firing guns or launching missiles. None of them need any aerobatic capabilities. So, I think this is just one of the side effects of this particular design that is looking good on the air shows, but completely useless for normal operations.

[mathewstw]

But have you ever thought what happens when you have an enemy plane chasing you. You need to get away fast and turn away quickly before the enemy missile hits your helicopter. These aerobatic maneuvers also teach the pilot how to handle a Seaking helicopter or any helicopter or plane for that matter. I hope you understand the importance of aerobatics. Air show is just a display of the capabilities of the helicopter or plane. Ask a pilot how he feels with a missile chasing his plane.

[syeager9]

Anti aircraft missiles are designed to to shoot down jet planes that are capable of evasive maneuvers that no helicopter will ever match. So some rudimentary aerobatic capabilities won't help at all.

[vickishortland]

thats not a wingover idiot. thats a stall turn! crap video! 1 star and thats being nice.

[mathewstw]

I am honoured with the 1 star. I am a pilot and not a 3d artist. That makes your other comment false as well. I made this just in my free time when I am not flying my Seaking helicopter. 20 years into flying Seaking helicopter you got to give back something. so this animation was made. It is far more difficult to do it than fly a seaking helicopter.

[syeager9]

Not sure it's possible in many (or any) real helicopters. In case of hinged blades, rotor disk plane deflects much faster then the helicopter body and during the recovery from vertical dive blades can strike the tail boom.

[pvpfiish]

Most hellicopters are aerobatic. You can do them in a Gazelle to a Chinook (somehow i dont know how, but i have seen it done!)

[mathewstw]

You guessed it right. This manouvre is not possible in a Seaking Helicopter because it does not have rigid rotor blades.

[pvpfiish]

Ahh cool thanks!!

[mathewstw]

I am lucky that seaking helicopter cannot do this kind of aerobatics. It is meant to hover with its 10 tonnes weight. But I just made it for fun. I don't want to try doing it in a real one as you rightly said, the blades will chop off the seaking helicopter tail.

[syeager9]

I used to fly Robinson 22. There was a special warning about pulling cyclic too fast on low speeds. It's despite the fact that main rotor is positioned rather high up. But it was almost 20 years ago and don't remember details. However some real helicopters with rigid rotor design are capable of such maneuvers. There are videos of real helicopter aerobatics here. So it's possible.

[unclesara]

Title and physics FAIL.

It's a hammer head.....a 'Sea King'....and the lack of gravity makes it look even more unplausable.

[mathewstw]

You are right. It was made a couple of years back. I wanted to make a wingover which cannot be done in a seaking helicopter. This seaking helicopter animation was my imagination and made in 3d. I am still learning 3d but flying the seakings for over two decades.

[7890776879098707]

the blades should be facing leading edge counterclockwise, the rotation is backwards

[mathewstw]

I agree that is how my seaking animation looks now. It is rotating properly in the actual video which when uploaded the google youtube and got converted into a flash with reduced frame rate making it look like it is going the wrong direction. Optical illusion. You may not believe it till you have an experience with youtube uploaded video. But next time I will ensure this doesn't happen. Thanks and regards.

[mathewstw]

I agree. As I have replied to many of my viewers. I am a pilot and still fly this seaking helicopter. I am not a 3d artist. But I have managed to make this much is an achievement beyond flying a Seaking.. Thanks.

[Helismoke]

Great!

The maneuver you show is not a "Wingover", it's a torque turn, commonly referred to as a"Hammerhead". We put the helo into a nose up climb using aft cyclic until the airspeed bleeds off, then the nose of the helo (CCW in American helos, CW in the European) follows the torque of the rotor mast to start a slow turn, as the aircraft starts a follow through and bleeds off airspeeb the pilot can usually input pedal in direction of the turn. U get 180 Degree turn to reapply guns or whatever.

[mathewstw]

Thankyou sir for your comments.

As I understand you are a helicopter pilot. The Sikorsky Seaking version here cannot do the torque turn as I understand. The maximum a Sikorsky Seaking of this type can do only a wingover so I termed it a wingover. Thanks fo the correct name. I have seen other helicopters do this manoeuvres, so just thought of making the Sikorsky Seaking also to do it. The aircraft looks majestic. I have flown in it. It is just my imagination. Thanks for the great comment.

[faisalsaharazowar]

Any good books you want to recommend for newbies or any good sites, this stuff is creative. i mean you must know it to transfer your imagination to 3D. Thank you for your reply. i appreciate it . i am from saudi arabia my name is faisal sahar 00966504306283

[faisalsaharazowar]

how much time it takes to learn that kind of stuff ?

[mathewstw]

It takes a long time and this 33 seconds rendered video took 3 days on my AMD 3000+ pc, and it has taken me years to learn animation on my own. Plus I am self trained, just to give you an idea. And more than anything else it imagination that gives birth to video. I hope that satisfies you.