this was bad, they were having 2 contradictory things at the same time. I think it was very unfortunate for the pilots they had no reason not to trust the controler
este avion seca yo porque al lavar el mismo antes que despegue los mecanicos que eran de nacionalidad chilena olvidaron retirar el stiker que protegia los altimetros
the veteran maintenance crewmembers (all loyal employees with years of expertise) were terminated 2 weeks before this "accident" for "economic measures" to hire cheaper "under temporal contract service's guys".
Greeding & internal Corruption destroyed AuroPeru yesterday, as the american airlines can be destroyed today.
The airplane only takes off if everything is ok. If the crew did their job nothing of this would have happened. I'm a pilot and having said this, I don't trust nobody. Even if the airplane comes out of maintenance and they already done all the checks, I'm gonna do them all over again because it's not the mechanics ass that's flying that aircraft. It's my ass.
The unfortunate thing is, even the most seasoned person can have a spacial (forgetful) day. That's a main problem with humans flying a computerized device where everything is reliant on each other system.
Not second guessing you or saying you're not a pilot or anything, but if you are and no matter what aircraft you fly. You'll always run the risk of missing something and it'll happen one day before you even realize it. What these people (pilot/maintenance) did was be guilty of being human.
That I agree with you and I'm not a perfect human being. I also do mistakes but until now i didn't had to pay with my live for those mistakes. But we all got to have that inside us. One little mistake can kill us or somebody else which I find it even worst, at least for those with a conscience. Cheers
tenia tapadas las tomas estaticas por eso fallo todo el sistema barometrico y lo q el piloto lecturaba en los equipos era por mediciones falsas debidas a las tomas obsturbadas.. creo.. xD! nah si es asi mierdas!! :D
you can be too low--but seldom to high--based on those odds-i wuda climbed--but then again, u cant think with all those annoying f**king alarms going off.
If you have no visual reference and no working instruments telling you accurately what you're doing.. What's to say you don't pull up TOO much, making the aircraft stall.. Or pulling up too high where your compression is not correctly calibrated with the outside atmosphere causing explosive decompression, or in extreme cases hypothermia/asphyxiation?
the cause of this crash was a combination of pilot error{primary cause) and ground personel not doing their job properly,as a pilot one of our MOST important duties is to perform a preflight inspection(which was not done).if the copilot woud have done his job he would still be alive today,he didnt preflight the aircraft and missed the masking tape over the pitot static ports,which are essential for flight!
is a littlle device call a FLASHLIGHT that you use for night preflight inspection,dont talk if you dont know,i preflight my aircraft with a flashlight at night,he was completely unprofesional and thats why he died sorry
well he did bring a flash light but the tape tape was obviously 10 feet up and the colour makes it less visible,he couldnt just spot it simply and climbed up without a ladder
Sadly, yes. Simple mistakes happen all the time in Aviation, some just don't make it to the news if there's not enough blood, body counts, or someone to blame.
También hubo falta de preparación de los pilotos y sobre todo del controlador. La información de altitud y velocidad vienen del sistema barométrico; si una falla, la otra también. Y en el radar era evidente que la información de velocidad estaba mal.
I hate you people who put up these videos that end right at the most important part. What is it with you???? What are you trying to show us by doing this? Where's the rest???
that basically is it. The plane impacted water, inverted and crashed in about a 15-20 second timespan. All the instrumentation on the plane was screwed up as well as the information they were transmitting to the control tower. Basically a pilot's worst nightmare.
Mierda, que tristeza, conoci en persona al capitan Eric Schereiber, padre de una conocida. Tambien tengo una amiga que era fly attendant designada para ese vuelo pero estaba muy resfriada y su mejor amiga, "Genma" la reemplazo gentilmente. Cosas del destino.
si compadre, recontra triste. Schereiber era padre de mi amiga erika, companera de promocion del colegio, lo recuerdo mucho, con su meche convertible, ficho el tio. El otro caso fue el de roxanita, mi amiga aeromoza de aeroperu que se recontra resfrio y no la dejaron volar esa fatidica madrugada, y fue reemplazada por genma, su mejor amiga. Puta, super triste. Por casualidad me la encontre al dia siguiente de la desgracia en el taller donde llevaba su auto (ford) y lloro mucho, horrible.
hmm...si pues , me imagino a veces la gente se va en el mejor momento de su vida cuando todo tiene un sentido...pero bueno. en fin esas cosas materiales a la hora q se uno se va definitivamente no importan. simplemente dejan un alma mas tranquila por saber q tu familia estara tranquila ahh y una cosa mas , no soy compadre ...sino comadre jejej...bye, un gustazo.
Uy! sorry por lo de compadre!, en fin. Bueno, lo que dices es verdad, uno se muere y se acaban las amarguras, las preocupaciones, el estress, que los pagos del mes y todo el rollo (sera asi?). Pero y los que quedan?, un vacio grande que a los que quedamos nos toco aprender a ir llenando durante la vida. Un gustazo tambien, bye!
If verbatim, the pilots thought the controller had them on "radar" at 10,000 when in fact the controller was giving the pilot the transponder height given by the aircrafts transponder system (which was wrong). Shouldn't the controller have checked their radar for a proper altitude fix.
The stats for the b737 deads used in my comparison with the A320...are less than totals as i used the date of service entry for the a320 to start counting...i think s fair to say that THE KILLER 737 is the MOST KILLING PLANE OF THE AVIATION HISTORY:
And now the best: Total Lives Killed by Boeing. Boeing 707: 2733 killed. Boeing 717: OK. Boeing 720: 175 killed. Boeing 727: 3702 killed. Boeing 737: 4779 KILLED. updated Boeing 747: 2850 killed. Boeing 757: 467 killed. Boeing 767: 569 killed. Boeing 777: OK. Total Killed= 15.215 Updated. Americans like everything huge...WOW.
It does when you consider the 737 has been flying for over 20 years longer than any aircraft of the entire A320 family. The older aircraft have far more lifetime stress put on the airframes than the newer. How about a comparison of hull loss accidents of the A320 to same generation aircraft like the 757 and 767?
757 = 0 in eleven years. 767 = 1 in twelve years. (Lauda) A320 = 4 in five years. (Air France, Indian Airlines, Air Inter, Lufthansa)
Tanto en aeroperu 603 como en faucett arequipa murieron conocidos mios. En aeroperu fallecio el capitan schereiber, papa de una amiga, y en arequipa, mi querido amigo " ". En el caso de aeroperu, falla de los sensores por estupidez de la gente de manto, y en faucett, fatiga, noche, procedimiento de aproximacion complejo. En ambos casos, de haber contado con equipos gps de mano (menos de us$1000), talvez la tragedia se hubiera evitado.
PERUVIANDUDE, esta equivocado tal como lo senala FERNANDODIAZ, fue Faucett el avion que se accidento en Arequipa. Lo de Aeoperu, no fue sabotaje, mas bien fue un lamentable error del personal de mantenimiento que no retiro las cubiertas de los sensores que indican altura y velocidad cuando hicieron el pulido del fuselaje del avion. Aqui hubo negligencia doble, del personal que hizo el trabajo asicomo tambien del supervisor que devuelve el avion operativo.
Las personas no debieron morir, porque si el Pitot estaba tapado el piloto debió hacerle caso a la torre de control porque ellos tienen la verdadera velocidad y la verdadera altitud del avión. Fue negligencia tambien por parte del piloto, y también del persoonal de mantenimiento.
Sabido es que el Pitot estaba bloqueado y este generaba datos incorrectos para la computadora del avion. Tambien es cierto que la Torre de Control suministraba "informacion real" que desgraciadamente el piloto debido a la falta de contacto visual (vuelo nocturno) no interpreto como correcta. Este fue sin duda un lamentable error que hoy debe ser parte del programa de simulador de vuelo de los principales fabricantes de aviones comerciales.
La altitud que recibe la torre de control proviene del Transpoder del aeronave. El transponder trabaja con altitud barométrica, que en ese momento era errónea, así que la torre de control no disponía de información correcta.
El radar secundario sólo funciona en dos dimensiones y no puede detectar por sí solo la altitud de las aeronaves.
Esta es la vez que fallo el altimetro, y lo explicaban bien que fue un error humano no del piloto, sino del mecánico que tapo el altimetro antes que despeque por casualidad. Otra vez fue yo me acuerdo que aeroperu cayo en Arequipa y murieron todos esa fue horrible, gracias a esa tragedia aeroperu nunca mas volvio a volar, quebró.
Shocking,let me add somehing to this accident,two months ago the comandant was asked how he would not like to die,and he answered:"The worst could happen to me is that instruments dont work.
bodo pnya keja..
nurafiz88 9 months ago
smth thats ture the was confuse shit i would be too
badda18 1 year ago
this was bad, they were having 2 contradictory things at the same time. I think it was very unfortunate for the pilots they had no reason not to trust the controler
pluto010 1 year ago
LA NUEVA AERLINEA DE BANDERA PERUANA ES PERUVIAN AIRLINES LA MEJOR DEL PERU
Carlos000000000100 1 year ago
ouuup ouuuup , u are gettin fuked!!!!!! ouuuup ouuup!!!!!
abercrombieToronto 1 year ago
Pudeo esta ser alguno borrosa?
Can this video be any blurry?
RiRiFan4life 2 years ago
este avion seca yo porque al lavar el mismo antes que despegue los mecanicos que eran de nacionalidad chilena olvidaron retirar el stiker que protegia los altimetros
paolo2paolo2 2 years ago
no fueron mecanicos, fue un solo sujeto (encargado de mantencion) eleuterio chacaliaza, informate bien, el empleado era peruano ;)
ferreton 2 years ago
OK This video is something else
heather91100 2 years ago
the veteran maintenance crewmembers (all loyal employees with years of expertise) were terminated 2 weeks before this "accident" for "economic measures" to hire cheaper "under temporal contract service's guys".
Greeding & internal Corruption destroyed AuroPeru yesterday, as the american airlines can be destroyed today.
IncaofAZ 2 years ago
I didnt understand crap
gastonytHD 2 years ago
I have one question,what is the alarm that sounds like the telephone ringing???Overspeed?Stall?
drsheikhjunior 3 years ago
it's stall
soyaitor9000 3 years ago
I think it is Overspeed... but go watch the episode flying blind all of the parts to find out
AndyMcArren1356 2 years ago
There's a lot of stuff you learn during flight school but unfortunately there are some aviators that tend to forget the basics.
I fully agree with dc8master
If the crew done their jobs they would be still alive. They are the only responsible for the crash
ricardofape 3 years ago
And the mechanic who left the tape over the static ports is innocent as a new born child?
vtwinbreed 3 years ago
The airplane only takes off if everything is ok. If the crew did their job nothing of this would have happened. I'm a pilot and having said this, I don't trust nobody. Even if the airplane comes out of maintenance and they already done all the checks, I'm gonna do them all over again because it's not the mechanics ass that's flying that aircraft. It's my ass.
ricardofape 3 years ago
The unfortunate thing is, even the most seasoned person can have a spacial (forgetful) day. That's a main problem with humans flying a computerized device where everything is reliant on each other system.
Not second guessing you or saying you're not a pilot or anything, but if you are and no matter what aircraft you fly. You'll always run the risk of missing something and it'll happen one day before you even realize it. What these people (pilot/maintenance) did was be guilty of being human.
vtwinbreed 3 years ago
That I agree with you and I'm not a perfect human being. I also do mistakes but until now i didn't had to pay with my live for those mistakes. But we all got to have that inside us. One little mistake can kill us or somebody else which I find it even worst, at least for those with a conscience. Cheers
ricardofape 3 years ago 4
tenia tapadas las tomas estaticas por eso fallo todo el sistema barometrico y lo q el piloto lecturaba en los equipos era por mediciones falsas debidas a las tomas obsturbadas.. creo.. xD! nah si es asi mierdas!! :D
CrissAngel1987 3 years ago
you can be too low--but seldom to high--based on those odds-i wuda climbed--but then again, u cant think with all those annoying f**king alarms going off.
thehalfvolley 4 years ago
If you have no visual reference and no working instruments telling you accurately what you're doing.. What's to say you don't pull up TOO much, making the aircraft stall.. Or pulling up too high where your compression is not correctly calibrated with the outside atmosphere causing explosive decompression, or in extreme cases hypothermia/asphyxiation?
vtwinbreed 3 years ago
El accidente de faucett fue un resultado de una mala administracion por parte de los dueños de tal aerolinea.
capitancaballero 4 years ago
the cause of this crash was a combination of pilot error{primary cause) and ground personel not doing their job properly,as a pilot one of our MOST important duties is to perform a preflight inspection(which was not done).if the copilot woud have done his job he would still be alive today,he didnt preflight the aircraft and missed the masking tape over the pitot static ports,which are essential for flight!
dc8master 4 years ago 2
dc8master sorry that's not right, he did perform an inspection but since it was a night and the piece of ta
iremmeber 3 years ago
is a littlle device call a FLASHLIGHT that you use for night preflight inspection,dont talk if you dont know,i preflight my aircraft with a flashlight at night,he was completely unprofesional and thats why he died sorry
dc8master 3 years ago
well he did bring a flash light but the tape tape was obviously 10 feet up and the colour makes it less visible,he couldnt just spot it simply and climbed up without a ladder
drsheikhjunior 3 years ago
any way you slice it it was a bad preflight,specially when you know the plane came from maintenance
dc8master 3 years ago
yea i agree with you,the maintnence crew is jailed
drsheikhjunior 3 years ago
PUT UP THE WHOLE FREAKING VIDEO!!!
protomanknows 4 years ago
one little piece of tape caused a $?? million dollar plane and 70 lives lost....
drsheikhjunior 4 years ago
poor people...:'(
drsheikhjunior 4 years ago
Sadly, yes. Simple mistakes happen all the time in Aviation, some just don't make it to the news if there's not enough blood, body counts, or someone to blame.
vtwinbreed 3 years ago
I saw this on discover channel one of the workers put something over the a part of the airplane and it got the wrong signals.
Minute27 4 years ago
Hasta lo que yo se, fue le culpa del mantenimiento. me gustaria que pongan el comienso y el final del video.
LoboLoko007 4 years ago
También hubo falta de preparación de los pilotos y sobre todo del controlador. La información de altitud y velocidad vienen del sistema barométrico; si una falla, la otra también. Y en el radar era evidente que la información de velocidad estaba mal.
fgrcl 4 years ago
I hate you people who put up these videos that end right at the most important part. What is it with you???? What are you trying to show us by doing this? Where's the rest???
zenrising 4 years ago
that basically is it. The plane impacted water, inverted and crashed in about a 15-20 second timespan. All the instrumentation on the plane was screwed up as well as the information they were transmitting to the control tower. Basically a pilot's worst nightmare.
ancestron 4 years ago
plzzzzzzzzz put up the whole thing!!!!
kdmq 4 years ago
Hey quien es mas estupido? Si no sabes nada de esta tragedia...mejor manten esa bokita olorosa cerrada!
XirtAmG0d 4 years ago
fue una descoordinacion de los pilotos y obviamente la falta de mantenimiento del avion!!
Kenaox 4 years ago
Mierda, que tristeza, conoci en persona al capitan Eric Schereiber, padre de una conocida. Tambien tengo una amiga que era fly attendant designada para ese vuelo pero estaba muy resfriada y su mejor amiga, "Genma" la reemplazo gentilmente. Cosas del destino.
samuraifugitivo 4 years ago
ala q loco ...si , cosas del destino
MELAINTHESKY 3 years ago
si compadre, recontra triste. Schereiber era padre de mi amiga erika, companera de promocion del colegio, lo recuerdo mucho, con su meche convertible, ficho el tio. El otro caso fue el de roxanita, mi amiga aeromoza de aeroperu que se recontra resfrio y no la dejaron volar esa fatidica madrugada, y fue reemplazada por genma, su mejor amiga. Puta, super triste. Por casualidad me la encontre al dia siguiente de la desgracia en el taller donde llevaba su auto (ford) y lloro mucho, horrible.
samuraifugitivo 3 years ago
hmm...si pues , me imagino a veces la gente se va en el mejor momento de su vida cuando todo tiene un sentido...pero bueno. en fin esas cosas materiales a la hora q se uno se va definitivamente no importan. simplemente dejan un alma mas tranquila por saber q tu familia estara tranquila ahh y una cosa mas , no soy compadre ...sino comadre jejej...bye, un gustazo.
MELAINTHESKY 3 years ago
Uy! sorry por lo de compadre!, en fin. Bueno, lo que dices es verdad, uno se muere y se acaban las amarguras, las preocupaciones, el estress, que los pagos del mes y todo el rollo (sera asi?). Pero y los que quedan?, un vacio grande que a los que quedamos nos toco aprender a ir llenando durante la vida. Un gustazo tambien, bye!
samuraifugitivo 3 years ago
Asi? puta ca<dajo puta tenia su meche y puta era treste, zo basura de mierda deja de halagar inferiorizado y mejor chupame la verga, chupapenes sobon
starperuvian 3 years ago
Anda toma tu sopa de caca, envidioso cagao, serrano abusado.
samuraifugitivo 2 years ago
Andino Culero Cagado
ejrc2009 2 years ago
calla naco trinchudo de mierda
samuraifugitivo 2 years ago
If verbatim, the pilots thought the controller had them on "radar" at 10,000 when in fact the controller was giving the pilot the transponder height given by the aircrafts transponder system (which was wrong). Shouldn't the controller have checked their radar for a proper altitude fix.
IQchallenged 4 years ago
De donde salio esa pelicula? ta buena
redibu 4 years ago
Ay ke mello! BUena peli!!
soydeus 4 years ago
q estupidos...
pitufo20 4 years ago
man the minute i would have heard "terrain" i would have pulled up! Fuck what ever the fuk the control tower says!!
eylshazuela 4 years ago
burrichello suck my huge dick ive seen your personally made statistics all over these plane crash videos
xxxsnoopy 4 years ago
YEP...then we consider that the 737 has created more deads thab the whole Airbus Fleet in their service history:
The Killer Boeing 737: 4.779 killed.
Airbus: 2.018 deads.
PD: 3.272 killed by the Boeing 737 since first A320 flight ...IOL...still ahead of Airbus totals...
American terrorism: Boeing.
burrichello 4 years ago
The stats for the b737 deads used in my comparison with the A320...are less than totals as i used the date of service entry for the a320 to start counting...i think s fair to say that THE KILLER 737 is the MOST KILLING PLANE OF THE AVIATION HISTORY:
4.779 PEOPLE DEAD.
burrichello 4 years ago
burrichello 4 years ago
Yeah! Ever read the reports on all those deaths, or double checked your math? Didn't think so.
vtwinbreed 3 years ago
It does when you consider the 737 has been flying for over 20 years longer than any aircraft of the entire A320 family. The older aircraft have far more lifetime stress put on the airframes than the newer. How about a comparison of hull loss accidents of the A320 to same generation aircraft like the 757 and 767?
757 = 0 in eleven years. 767 = 1 in twelve years. (Lauda) A320 = 4 in five years. (Air France, Indian Airlines, Air Inter, Lufthansa)
djtoxin 4 years ago
Tanto en aeroperu 603 como en faucett arequipa murieron conocidos mios. En aeroperu fallecio el capitan schereiber, papa de una amiga, y en arequipa, mi querido amigo " ". En el caso de aeroperu, falla de los sensores por estupidez de la gente de manto, y en faucett, fatiga, noche, procedimiento de aproximacion complejo. En ambos casos, de haber contado con equipos gps de mano (menos de us$1000), talvez la tragedia se hubiera evitado.
samuraifugitivo 4 years ago
aeroperu went bankrupt in 1999 becouse of this
craig1360 4 years ago
PERUVIANDUDE, esta equivocado tal como lo senala FERNANDODIAZ, fue Faucett el avion que se accidento en Arequipa. Lo de Aeoperu, no fue sabotaje, mas bien fue un lamentable error del personal de mantenimiento que no retiro las cubiertas de los sensores que indican altura y velocidad cuando hicieron el pulido del fuselaje del avion. Aqui hubo negligencia doble, del personal que hizo el trabajo asicomo tambien del supervisor que devuelve el avion operativo.
CATOGAMO 4 years ago
Las personas no debieron morir, porque si el Pitot estaba tapado el piloto debió hacerle caso a la torre de control porque ellos tienen la verdadera velocidad y la verdadera altitud del avión. Fue negligencia tambien por parte del piloto, y también del persoonal de mantenimiento.
Afiquin 4 years ago
Sabido es que el Pitot estaba bloqueado y este generaba datos incorrectos para la computadora del avion. Tambien es cierto que la Torre de Control suministraba "informacion real" que desgraciadamente el piloto debido a la falta de contacto visual (vuelo nocturno) no interpreto como correcta. Este fue sin duda un lamentable error que hoy debe ser parte del programa de simulador de vuelo de los principales fabricantes de aviones comerciales.
CATOGAMO 4 years ago
La altitud que recibe la torre de control proviene del Transpoder del aeronave. El transponder trabaja con altitud barométrica, que en ese momento era errónea, así que la torre de control no disponía de información correcta.
El radar secundario sólo funciona en dos dimensiones y no puede detectar por sí solo la altitud de las aeronaves.
fgrcl 4 years ago 2
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mexfive 4 years ago
Esta es la vez que fallo el altimetro, y lo explicaban bien que fue un error humano no del piloto, sino del mecánico que tapo el altimetro antes que despeque por casualidad. Otra vez fue yo me acuerdo que aeroperu cayo en Arequipa y murieron todos esa fue horrible, gracias a esa tragedia aeroperu nunca mas volvio a volar, quebró.
PeruvianDude 4 years ago
el que cayo en Arequipa fue Faucett y no taparon el altimetro sino los sensores..sabotaje???
fernandodiaz4 4 years ago
El accidente de Arequipa fue un FAUCETT
sergiojuanjui93 4 years ago
Aeroperu Faucett Lan es la misma coyudez
PeruvianDude 4 years ago
can you add flight 261
jamesboutses 4 years ago
Shocking,let me add somehing to this accident,two months ago the comandant was asked how he would not like to die,and he answered:"The worst could happen to me is that instruments dont work.
capitancaballero 4 years ago
Good , the 2 octuber 1996, Flight 603 for AeroPerú , crash in south american oceanic pacific
kobie007 4 years ago