Cross and Christians,end to end,I examined.He was not on the Cross.I went to the Hindu temple,to the ancient pagoda.In none of them was there any sign.To the uplands of Herat I went,and to Kandahar.I looked.He was not on the heights or in the lowlands.Resolutely,I went to the summit of the mountain of Kaf.There only was the dwelling of the[legendary] Anqa bird.I went to the Kaaba of Mecca.He was not there... I looked into my own heart.In that,his place,I saw him.He was in no other place.
This made me feel so bad because this is what I do. I'm so scared that I won't be able to go to Heaven. I don't know what to do. Somebody please help me! JESUS SAVE ME!!!!!!
You know, if you do not believe you can work together and make a bridge so everybody just need to carry a little peace, and we can help those people who can't carry a whole cross by themselves.
hhhhhhhoooooooooollllllllllddddddddddd on. "never underestimate my Jesus. When the world around you crumbles, he will be strong." er, how? :s hasn't he been dead for a really long time? I don't know though, it just doesn't seem to make sense. But I'm agnostic/atheist so I don't really know much about this stuff XD
@loveformusic321 ~ Hi ~ I can really appreciate your question. The answer is pretty simple. Christians believe that Jesus was resurrected from the dead, so He is alive today, and able to help us. I know.....that's asking you to believe in the supernatural, but don't you already, really? I mean movies, t.v., books ~ all portray vampires, werewolves, zombies, aliens, etc. as though they are real. What's so hard about believing that the Son of God could rise from the dead and be our Savior?
@MultiEman2000 I laughed pretty hard when I read this, not gonna lie. However its nice to see someone devoted to a cause and willing to put themselves out there regardless of whether the cause is valid or not :D
Wish had lyrics for song SO Deaf and Hard of Hearing can follow it.
I remember reading the booklet. The quote at end of this is very powerful reminds us how some Christians give up instead of continue. Sad for them when they give up Jesus.
This is not a salvation song, it is about carrying cross JESUS gives us in this life for His SERVICE.
@Subtitledworship Is that a game by Jigsaw?! I would use the cross like a bridge, cross to the other side and let him do the same. Your cartoon is ironic because it's contrary to the samaritan parable (who loved his neighbor? many people see the injured man lying in the ditch, but they just cross the road). The cartoon was poorly thought. You could use much better ways to send the message (eg: a training analogy) without making saved christians look like persons who won't help others.
@pedroamaralcouto Appreciate your comment. This video is about how each Christian is responsible to live their life with what God gave them. In video, person, instead of relying on God to help him through looks for a short cut to lighten his load and the responsibilities. Ergo, when the time came, when life leaves a gap, we need the lessons learned from carrying our load to get over BIG obstacle. REAL life has no short cuts.
"Deny yourself, take up your cross & follow me" He said.
Was sin judged? - Yes
Where? - On the Cross
What was the verdict? - Guilty
What was the penalty? - Death
Who paid it? - Jesus
How much of it? - All of it
How much is left for you? - None
"My Cross" is Jesus cross, thank God, or I would have to die for my own sins.
Daily we must deny our doubt, accept HIS gift of complete forgiveness by faith & follow him into the abundant life he promised. Herein is trust, obedience & fulfillment.
Sometimes we complain to God by saying why am i going thru this, but we dont see that God is permitting it for the good of His children for the future.. He is preparing us for what He has prepared for us, which is something much greater.. Gods ways and thoughts are higher than our ways and thoughts.. tho sometimes we do not understand we must learn to trust in Him even when it hurts.. Be sure its happening for a greater purpose.. as Jesus carried the cross that belong to us why shouldnt we
hehehe Thk you. IF my believe cause me to be abnormal person in human eyesight, it might be better than abnormal in God eyesight. I don't fear if people laugh on me. I accept to have my blood of ADam and Eva , rather than Monkey blood. hehheehe God bless I'm also tired but please know that God never tired with u
Your blood is not from a monkey. You are misunderstand or worse, misrepresenting evolution.
Monkeys are just as much "modern" or evolved animals as we are, as is every living
thing on the planet. Humans and other modern apes share a fairly recent common ancestor, as do monkeys, cows, whales, marsupials, etc.
We share a common ancestor with all life on the planet, but you will have to look further back in time for the great-great.. grandfather we shared with jellyfish, mushrooms, etc.
But under all revolution evolution are from God. Not from own human brain. God give brain and human knowledge to do something, but he din't give blind heart to us to know him
when I die, i just know i cannot bring scientific with me. I just can bring my saviour life to meet Jesus and God on last Judgement day. Because I believe that Hifi network and all technology cannot push me to heaven. And although there is no heaven, even I don't know technology,I will be same as other who know.
The writer of any stories won't show contradictory for sure. They will write smoothly by convincing you to believe.But Bible is recording history the real from period to period. If u find Bible is smooth word,i think that is fake story for sure
Religion is based on delusion and human life (like all life) is comparable to a virus. Soon your death cult and all others will become outdated. I can see why the promise of eternal life and threats of hell entranced the majorities throughout history, and I forgive all religious people.. Pure forgiveness, we are just creatures.
no Jesus is God Jesus awaits for you and loves you so much.feed your soul let the Lord advise you.strive to keep you command and seek for him.cry to him.believe in him with all your heart.you dont need a pair of legs a car or money after your death.but your soul needs needs Jesus to enter the most beautiful place ever
Do you believe that people of the Islamic faith believe in Allah because the Quran is true, or because they were told to believe that it's true? I don't believe in your God for the same reason you don't believe in the thousands of mythological deities throughout history. It may comfort you to have belief but that does not make it true. Also, I don't believe in life after death, there may be, but I have not found any reason to believe that there is. Thank you though.
because when u die, its not between ur friends and u and jesus.. just you and God. if ur want a stronger sense of christianity, pick up a bible and start reading the gospels. and dont assume so much :P
You say that I'm the one assuming stuff, yet you lot are the ones that are assuming so much! More hypocrisy!
I prefer to live my life based on the real world, based on facts and evidence, not some old book, the vast majority of which is just fairy stories... and not very good ones at that.
If you were to live your life according to the bible, you would be in jail or a mental hospital within a week.
My advice to you is to get out while you are still young and (relatively) sane.
you prefer to live your life the way u want to live it. based on culture and choice. and you are assuming stuff :P not all christians are hypocrites. can u call me a hypocrite? how so? what facts and evidence are you talking about? and your opinion about the bible is irrational :P why judge on the word of God when u dont read it, or even try to apply to it? and no. through Christ there is LIFE, not jail or a mental hospital :P my advice to you is to get into it before your time is over =]
I called you a hypocrite in this case because you said that I assumed so much. Well, the idea of god is an assumption, people didn't understand why the Man, the earth, etc was here, so they assumed that "god" created it all and then went on to make a whole series of assumptions; e.g. all powerful, loving, etc. in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
The evidence I am talking about is scientific evidence,which contradicts just about everything that the bible says, e.g. evolution, cosmology...
mm. the idea of God was not an assumption, the words written in the bible are proven today in so many ways to be true. prophecy books ( u can look into that ) came true. historical truth ( noahs ark found, with perfect measurements, locations, etc ). science doesnt contridict the bible at all, it supports it a lot =] evolution was straight up darwins theory, and with darwin is SUCH a different story if u ever really want to talk about it.
And as far as ending up in jail or a mental hospital, I was referring to the fact that if you followed the bible, you would have to murder people for so many things, such as disagreeing with their parents, for not being a virgin on their wedding night, for worshipping other gods, etc. The bible is very clear on these points. If you obey it, you would go to jail, or in your "civilized" country, you would get the death penalty, and in other, more civilized countries, end up in psychiatric care.
no no no no no. yee. remember, the bible is a book of love. jesus came on earth not to condemn the world, and for the righteous, but for the sinners. he came out of love. if u knew Jesus, he would know the purpose of his Word. i know the bible pretty well =]. so the bible commands me to love my brothers, i wouldnt go to jail. the bible is clear on who God is, and what real LOVE is. if u have aim i would love to talk to you, not as an arguement, but so its easier to speak things out =] "o0Ctb0o"
The words of the bible have NOT been proven. I don't know where you got that idea from, although I can imagine that you have been brainwashed from an early age.
A few things may be historically correct, but Noah's ark or a universal flood is certainly not one of them. And as for a virgin birth, a man coming back from the dead, Adam and Eve, talking snake, these are obviously fairy tales. You can't seriously tell me that you believe all that rubbish, can you?
the words of the bible HAVE been proven. tell me. where is it not proven? and stop with the narrowminded insults, u look stupid :P u admited a "few" which is actually many historically things have been correct. and how is noahs ark not one of them...? look in your bible, if u have one :P let me ask you this. do you believe there is a Jesus? the Jesus that is portrayed in the bible? and science does not contradict the bible :P u want to show me how? cuz otherwise ur just throwing out words..
The words of the bible have not been proven. The opposite is true. The onus is on you to prove it. Extraordinary claims require ext. proof. However, dogma does not claim to require proof.Noah's ark is not fact. It is a fairy tale. It would not work, it is ridiculous. It is possible that there was a large flood, possibly in the Black Sea, but that does mean that some guy got all the animals together to save them. It is a nice story, but it is preposterous to suggest that it has any basis in fact.
let me ask you this. if i told you i was Jesus, would u die for me? One proof is this. Jesus, with ALL that he is, and with all that is written, had to be true. why else did A LOT of key people in the bible were willing to die for this? because of what they SAW was true. noash ark is a fact :P they FOUND the boat. look it up. archelogist found many fishes on mountain tops and cant find a reason except through the flood. thats one proof on it, not a fairy tale :P
If you told me you were Jesus, why would I want to die for you . ha ha ha! no, of course not! It is ridiculous.
Why would I want to die for some poor deluded person who says he was Jesus!
And the fact that people have died in "his" name IS NOT PROOF of his existence! Do you even know what proof is? Obviously not!
And they DID NOT find Noah's ark! It is NOT a fact! Even if they found a boat that seems to correspond to the description, it does not mean that the story of the flood is true!
If you do not know why fishes (I presume you mean fossils) have been found up mountains, then I suggest you study a bit of geology you moron!
Coincidentally, Charles Darwin himself found marine fossils high in the Andes at an altidude of 4300m! In fact that is what got him thinking about the fact that the earth had changed and was not fixed - created in its current form by "god". This was before he thought about natural selection, although he realized that animals would have to adapt.
Why do you tell me to look in "my" bible? as if I'm going to find proof there. It is not going to magically prove itself just by rereading it. Do you not understand that?
Yes, I believe that is is possible that a historical Jesus may have existed, but I believe none of the supernatural claims, such as the virgin birth, the resurrection, the miracles, etc. There has never been a case of human parthenogenesis. Neither has anybody ever returned from the dead or turned water into wine, etc
rereading? so ur telling me that you read the bible? if u read the bible and understood it, than u would know of what i speak of. there has been MANY cases of people dying and coming back to life. i can go on and on and on of the many miracles that has happend on this earth within this week :P
Sorry mate, I can't waste talking to you any more.
You just don't make any sense and are not willing to listen to rational thought.
I said that the bible id not going to magically prove itself to be true by rereading it over and over again. I did not say that if "I" redread it necessarily.
There have been NO cases of ppl dying and coming back. They may have appeared dead, but they can't have been.
To turn water which is a simple molecule of oxygen and hydrogen into a complex mix of organic acids, proteins, tannin, salts, minerals, yeast, bacteria and fungi, etc is patently absurd.
So, yes, those are just a few examples of how science contradits the bible.
Why would you not go to jail if you stoned your disobedient son to death, or an adulteress, or a non-virgin bride or a person that believes in a different god. As I said, the bibhle is extremely clear on these things, and it is not written in the bible that Jesus rescinded these very clear instructions.
You lot choose to be homophobic, but ignore the bits about mixing fibres, trimming your beard and stoning people if they so much sneeze in your direction!
let me ask u this, where did u get ur basic morals of right and wrong? and stop being judgemental :P im not homophobic :P and stop with the ignorant insults :P why ask when ur not willing to listen? is this how u respond to ur past teachers as well? when u dont get something u just throw insults :P nice
Morals come about as a result of evolution. Other apes have morals and they have got them without inventing a god. Many animals have found that altruism and cooperation is more beneficial than being selfish. Other apes show most if not all of what we call morals. People who do not want to live in a society full of murder, rape, and crime tend to get to reproduce and pass on their genes more than immoral people. Our morals have advanced since the time of the bible IN SPITE of religious teachings.
The bible, apart from a few "love thy neighbours" is a hateful and intolerant book.
There are more moral examples in any daily newspaper editorial!
Nowadays, for ex, it is acceptable for people to be openly gay, and we are much less racist than even a few years ago. If we were to follow the bible, it would be disastrous for society. It is not true to suggest that without god, people would automatically become child-molesters, etc. Less religious countries tend to have better social conditions.
He basically didn't answer your question. Morality comes from God, animals have a basic survival instinct that prohibits them, on occasions, from competing for scarce resources. but to try and compare this to objective morality is idiotic. as an atheist he has no basis for saying anything is right or wrong. if there is no god, i say that its immoral to wear a red coat on a tuesday with as much legitimacy as he would have in saying it immoral to murder someone.
If you are interested, I've already explained my views on morality a couple of pages back. I'm not going to waste my time explaining again it to an ignorant, close-minded fundamentalist.
Im interested in hearing you justify your views on morality, perhaps by trying to explain them rationally. Given that my post was a direct response to your statement of these views I think you time might not be so wasted after all. Even if I am an ignorant fundamentalist...
Examine the concept of God, presupposing there is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever to support the concept (a false premise - but we shall persevere). you state that belief in the existence of god without evidence is irrational but many forms of metaphysical truth are based upon no evidence whatsoever, morality has no scientific basis, nor do aesthetic statements of beauty, even many science itself (e.g. relativity) is often based upon assumption
Okay, obviously you haven't done enough research. Stoning people, mixing fibers,and trimming beards were all things they did a long time ago, in Hebrew times. All those things were mentioned in the first part of the bible, the Old Testament, becase
because they were simply recording events that happened in those times. But if you look in the NEW Testament, you would see that Jesus you said "He who has not sinned, throw the first stone". He stopped the Jewish from doing all the hypocritical things they were doing, put away with all the silly rules like "mixing fibers" and whatnot, and instead taught to love thy neighbor, because if you loved people you wouldn't murder, rape, etc. Next time, get ALL the facts first :P
The bible contradicts itself in many places, but is just plain wrong in most places...
One example of the bible contradicting itself?
... ok
The animals that Noah was supposed to take is described in 3 different ways. Not that I'm too bothered, because it is all invented anyway - or an extremely exaggerated story.
That fact that it is self contradictory is less important than it being mainly a load of nonsense written by gibbering idiots.
how about Adam Eva , and urself u think it's exaggerated ??? the system in mobile phone is complex. Human create it. Our body is more system than mobile phone.
I don't even know where to start with that! Incredible!
I suggest you attend a little more school and a lot less church! Or you could start by watching some videos about evolution by natural selection (ring a bell?) here on YouTube. If you want, I can recommend some.
If god exists who loses? Well, if he is as violent, barbaric, spiteful, vengeful, intolerant and insanely jealous and cruel a tyrant as he is made out to be in the bible, then I prefer to think that he doesn't exist, thanks.
But I also recommend you, if you have chance one day,please attend more church. Having more knowledge in schools cannot help us to have real peaceful (always). I didn't ask u to believe, And God not force us to believe. Many people misunderstand Jesus Christian. Maybe the church or believe or someone around u not show the real meaning of Christian.
Sorry for that. But hope u will find him by urself one day.
No offense jumbo, I'm sure you are a very nice person, but you are talking absolute nonsense!
Please look up "irreducible complexity" to address your evident misunderstanding about how evolution works. Specifically your example about about mobile phones.
@Nilguiri I don't know that i'm nice person.Only God knows it. And as I known God, he is not nonsense. If he nonsense,i won't waste my time to tell you. Just let you misunderstand and let you believe in what u believe. On the Noah period before 40 days flooding, Noah also told all people that it will flood.But all people also said Non sense.
Yes, but "he" didn't did he? It was just a story among many other universal flood myths, such as the epic of Gilgamesh. It is a nice story, but it is impossible in so many ways that there is absolutely no doubt that it did not happen.
Did you research irreducible complexity yet? At least read about it, watch a few videos. Dogma and faith do nothing to advance Man's understanding of the natural world, whereas science does.
Many, if not most of all bishops, etc believe in evolution, by the way.
might not go to heaven if i failed on last Judgement. God din't see that my name is chistian.I have more chance than other.He is fair enough to know who have the real heart to trust and know him during one life we have. So if u follow teachnoligy he didn't blaim, but he just remind me and u that don't forget last judgement day.
Please, spare me the mumbo jumbo and gibberish. It means nothing!
That sort of language might be fashionable amongst your christian (evangelist?) friends, but to "normal" people, you just make yourself sound ridiculous!
@Nilguiri Excuse me, but I really recommend you watch the documentary "God of Wonders." It'll open your eyes, and it's just really good to watch. I'm not saying your belief is wrong, just try to open your mind the same way your trying to open ours to your beliefs.
@OriLOK2 OK, fair comment. I'll look out for it, although at the risk of judging a book by its cover, just the title seems to suggest that it takes it for granted that god exists and talks about how great he is. If that is the case, I pretty much know now that it won't convince me.
Answer; from Natural. I think no one will believe. BeCau Human create it. How about our body? Our brain from Natural ? No way. God made it.Our brain more systemize and complex than 3G phone.
technology save ur life but Believe and trust in God will save ur soul. I explain it is not i want to win u but explain what u might know him more oneday.
I can see by your answer that you have totally ignored my suggestion that you learn something about the subject rather than just repeating the same, tired old arguments which have been disproved beyond all doubt.
This is a good place to start, please do yourself a favour and watch it: watch?v=xGyh1Qsw-Ak
It addresses exactly you problem with the mobile phone.
You seem to assume that just because stuff is written in the bible it, that is proof that is true. That is a preposterous idea, especially as the bible was written between 2 and 3 thousand years ago and has been edited and censored and rewritten hundreds of times since then - even if you assume that it was written by your "god" in the first place, which it obviously wasn't. The whole idea is just ridiculous and to say that modern science backs it up is a downright lie.
let me ask u this. if the bible HAS been rewritten/censored so many times, why doesnt the bible contradict itself? science doesnt deny there is a higher being. MANY MANY MANY scientist globally agrees to it. there is no other explaination. u should seriously think about the complexity of how humans came about. it was no accident we are here :P
You ask why the bible doesn't contradict itsself! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
Well, it does, time and time again!
Science does not and indeed cannot deny a higher being, as it is impossible to either prove or disprove it. However science makes NO mention of a higher being. As soon as there is proof of that, god will become part of science, but until then it will not.
If a scientist believes in god, it is because he chooses to compartmentalize his rational and irrational thoughts.
Its amazing how you come across a so supremely self-confident yet when it comes to actual rational argument you seem to be at a complete loss. You seriously can't really believe statements like "when a scientist believes in god, it is because he chooses to compartmentalize rational and irrational thoughts"?
Some parts of science could coexist with a belief in god, but biology and cosmology, for example cannot. If a scientist believes in Adam and Eve, the virgin birth, resurrection and all that bullshit, the only possible way to have them both is to have 2 opposing, contradictory ideas, which you would HAVE to compartmentalize.
Although a "true" scientist would have come to the conclusion that there is no room for a god.
If god can be proved to exist, he will necessarily become a part of science.
A true scientist? Who are you to determine who is, or isn't a true scientist? Your very words desecrate the reputation of men like Newton, Einstein, Galileo, Kelvin or Faraday. Even modern day Christians like the Director of the Human Genome project. These men obviously believed the existence of God was rational, otherwise they wouldn't have accepted it. If anything cosmology is incompatible with atheism. Look up the Kalam cosmological argument or examine mathematical order within the cosmos...
Well, that's why I used inverted commas, to avoid the "true Scotsman" fallacy. What I mean is somebody who believes the evidence and accepts proof instead of blindly accepting dogma.
How can cosmology be incompatible with atheism? All the biblical descriptions of how the world, etc was created have been proved wrong! Why should we trust the half-baked, lame opinions of what some semi-literate writer from the bronze age instead of modern scientific investigation?
There are numerous arguments that point towards the existence of some sort of creative design behind the universe - look them up. If we flip the coin, there are no equatable arguments that support strong atheism - you contention that there IS no God; and even if we were to presuppose a YE creationist view of the Genesis accounts these have not, as you state, been proved wrong scientifically.Neo-darwinistic theories of origin of species,e.g. have not been proved - they are simply that - theories.
What do you mean "simply" a theory? That is as good as it gets in science! Evolution is as much a a fact as gravity and the best explanation we have to explain it is The Theory of Evolution by natural selection. The function of DNA and natural selection is extremely well understood and proven.
If you have a better explanation that involves god, well publish it. If it proves correct, god WILL become part of science, as I said.
Evolution is a fact; neo-darwinistic theories on the origin of species are not.Evolution is used to explain them, not the other way around.They can't be proven because they go beyond proof. They're simply an attempt to extrapolate the data we have and create a theory of how things operated in the past.Nor have theories like abiogenesis, which have never even been explained with adequate consensus, let alone tested or observed; and if naturalism cannot provide answers, you know the alternative.
Einstein was a deist who firmly believed in Spinoza's God. Whether he was skeptical about religion or the idea of a personal God or not really has no bearing on the point I was trying to make.
I've heard Dawkins preach many times before, so you'll forgive me if I'm not entirely enthusiastic about watching videos by a man so repulsive he believes it would be better to molest a child than to bring them up in the Christian faith.
First, it is ridiculous to suggest that Dawkins says it is better to molest a child! That's batshit crazy! You have chosen to misunderstand and misrepresent what he has said. Nothing new there!
Secondly, What ad hominem attacks are you talking about? You are a pathetic liar.
False assumption? Villification?
It is ironic that you charge me with being blinded by preconceptions!! Since when have you lot let mere facts get in the way of your laughable dogma?
By the way, are you suggesting that the bible has not been edited? If you think that is the case, you are mistaken. That is a historical fact. Large parts of it have been lost or deliberately exluded. e.g. the gospels of Judas, Mary, Peter... It has been copied many times - copies of copies of copies. That in itself usually tends to introduce errors, either deliberately or accidentally.
It is an apocryophal collection which may contain some facts but is mainly "fairy stories".
The gospels of Judas, Mary and Peter are not canon, they are, as you say apocryphal works of a dubious historical character. So it is not a matter of "historical fact" that the Bible has been edited.
So, what are you sayng? That the bible has never been changed? It is a complete and accurate and unchanged since it was first written in dribs and brabs over a period of 2000 years?
Any modern electic translation is based directly upon either the Old or New Testament manuscripts as first recorded. The degree of inconsistency between different manuscripts is something like 2%, and none of it affects the central teachings or core doctrines of Christianity. The Bible is like an encyclopaedia, comprised of many different books, and the means of translation and interpretation of this encyclopaedia has changed over time. But the books it is comprised of have remained the same.
You ask me to seriously think about the complexity of how humans came about. Well I have done many times. Evolution does not explain how the first life appears, but it certainly explains how it became human and produced every other species on the planet.
Rather, I would say that you are the one who should definitely think more carefully about it.
The bible does absolutely nothing to explain it seriously . "God did it" is NOT an explanation - and even if it was, then who or what created god?
When you argue that God needs to have been created you are assuming that God is bound by time. Assume there is no time. Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things existing in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have always existed.
The Universe, however, began to exist. It operates within the boundaries of time. The question you should be asking, is what caused it to come into existence?
Science is about finding the best possible explanation for the data we have. I think you know all to well that the A-theory and the idea of causation are by far the most viable options. This is not about a "God of the Gaps"; its about finding the best explanation. The idea that an intelligent external energy source conciously directed is a highly tenable option. The looming prospect of theism, and your distaste for it, does nothing to detract from this.
I understand that you may have been brought up in an evangelical community, where this sort of nonsense is humoured or even encouraged.
I am lucky enough to live in a civilized, modern society where deluded nutjobs (no offense) are either ignored or given the scorn and ridicule that they deserve. The only evangelicals where I live are gypsies who generally have chosen not to go to school and are ignorant and uneducated.
And fortunately, "normal" christianity is rapidly disappearing, too.
Again your powers of false assumption are extradordinary, and your reputation for villification precedes you. None of my, even extended, family are Christians.
Unfortunately I don't think I can continue this discussion. When you begin to resort to ad hominem attacks its clear you have nothing useful to contribute to the debate. I hope you do sincerely look into Christianity more, with an open mind and not one blinded by preconceptions. God bless you.
I can understand how people thought that there might gods thousands, or even hundreds of years ago, but Man has come a long way since then, well most of us have.
Science now has a good explanation of the phenoma which led people to invent god, such as cosmology, evolution, metoerology, night and day, as well as morals, love, death, etc. and continually strives to understand and explain our universe, unlike religion which has basically stagnated in the superstitious ignorance of the bronze age.
u must read this. once u have started there is no turning back. a little 10 year old girl was raped and murderded in 1945. her body was not found until 1947. then a boy last week read this and did not copy and paste this message. the dead girl appeared in his room haunting him and killed him. if you do not copy and paste this onto 10 vidoes in 30 minutes the dead girl will apear in your room tonight and haunt you and kill you. well you better start to copy and paste to be saved
This is true, but I must say... When is too difficult Jesus help us to carry our cross, this is the hope of all believers, otherwise, this video would not say anything new for anybody. The good news is: WITH JESUS, WHEN ITS TOO HEAVY HE SHOWS HIS LOVE AND HIS MERCY AND MIRACLES HAPPENS. I TRUST IN MY SAVIOR, WE SHOULD NOT GIVE UP, BUT HE HELP US IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WALK! ALL THE GLORY TO HIM!
Cross and Christians,end to end,I examined.He was not on the Cross.I went to the Hindu temple,to the ancient pagoda.In none of them was there any sign.To the uplands of Herat I went,and to Kandahar.I looked.He was not on the heights or in the lowlands.Resolutely,I went to the summit of the mountain of Kaf.There only was the dwelling of the[legendary] Anqa bird.I went to the Kaaba of Mecca.He was not there... I looked into my own heart.In that,his place,I saw him.He was in no other place.
-Rumi
bozolazic 2 days ago
This made me feel so bad because this is what I do. I'm so scared that I won't be able to go to Heaven. I don't know what to do. Somebody please help me! JESUS SAVE ME!!!!!!
mykindaparty13 1 week ago
love the song
mikasinaga 1 month ago
nice video ang Lord kaht anung tigas ng ulo natin kaht ganu tayo ka pasaway nandun parin na na binibigyan nya tayo ng isa pang pag kakataon...
bjverin 2 months ago
You know, if you do not believe you can work together and make a bridge so everybody just need to carry a little peace, and we can help those people who can't carry a whole cross by themselves.
BorealisLinnea 2 months ago
hhhhhhhoooooooooollllllllllddddddddddd on. "never underestimate my Jesus. When the world around you crumbles, he will be strong." er, how? :s hasn't he been dead for a really long time? I don't know though, it just doesn't seem to make sense. But I'm agnostic/atheist so I don't really know much about this stuff XD
loveformusic321 3 months ago
@loveformusic321 ~ Hi ~ I can really appreciate your question. The answer is pretty simple. Christians believe that Jesus was resurrected from the dead, so He is alive today, and able to help us. I know.....that's asking you to believe in the supernatural, but don't you already, really? I mean movies, t.v., books ~ all portray vampires, werewolves, zombies, aliens, etc. as though they are real. What's so hard about believing that the Son of God could rise from the dead and be our Savior?
waybreaker 3 months ago
@waybreaker Oh okay i get it :) cool, thanks :) x
loveformusic321 3 months ago
@loveformusic321 ~ If you ever just want to talk about this issue (or other related) you can Friend me on FB ~ Wilton Ledkins ~ all the best.
waybreaker 3 months ago
God is fake.
PaRR0kK5 4 months ago
@PaRR0kK5 Never hate our enemies instead love them and pray for them please pray for this person thumbs up this comment so everyone can pray for him
MultiEman2000 3 months ago 3
@MultiEman2000 I laughed pretty hard when I read this, not gonna lie. However its nice to see someone devoted to a cause and willing to put themselves out there regardless of whether the cause is valid or not :D
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MultiEman2000 3 months ago
Saw thus at church Sunday Jus had to share
kimg97 4 months ago
Praise GOD!!! :)
jhezarific 5 months ago
Never under estimate my Jesus! I love Jesus!
JhazieVienteUno 5 months ago
nice song with GREAT visual message... WELL DONE and LET GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE...
smejkop 6 months ago
Wish had lyrics for song SO Deaf and Hard of Hearing can follow it.
I remember reading the booklet. The quote at end of this is very powerful reminds us how some Christians give up instead of continue. Sad for them when they give up Jesus.
This is not a salvation song, it is about carrying cross JESUS gives us in this life for His SERVICE.
Subtitledworship 6 months ago
LOVE THE SONG SPECIALLY JESUS!
winnonah0824 6 months ago
Thank you Lord for my cross
RosiPerez5 6 months ago
HEAVY, BUT WE NEED IT
ELSA2909 8 months ago 8
The others could be good samaritans and let the guy cross the gap using their crosses.
pedroamaralcouto 9 months ago
@pedroamaralcouto EACH carry their own load God has given. If we look for shortcuts, we get short blessings.
Subtitledworship 6 months ago
@Subtitledworship Is that a game by Jigsaw?! I would use the cross like a bridge, cross to the other side and let him do the same. Your cartoon is ironic because it's contrary to the samaritan parable (who loved his neighbor? many people see the injured man lying in the ditch, but they just cross the road). The cartoon was poorly thought. You could use much better ways to send the message (eg: a training analogy) without making saved christians look like persons who won't help others.
pedroamaralcouto 6 months ago
@pedroamaralcouto Appreciate your comment. This video is about how each Christian is responsible to live their life with what God gave them. In video, person, instead of relying on God to help him through looks for a short cut to lighten his load and the responsibilities. Ergo, when the time came, when life leaves a gap, we need the lessons learned from carrying our load to get over BIG obstacle. REAL life has no short cuts.
Subtitledworship 5 months ago
what's the name of the song?
mariblondor 10 months ago
cute din to..hehe..i love the song..
emmarienbotas 10 months ago
awesome
Sauroslvl 11 months ago
Its said that Jesus wasn't crusified on a cross, it was actually a tree.
miketonon 11 months ago
"Deny yourself, take up your cross & follow me" He said.
Was sin judged? - Yes
Where? - On the Cross
What was the verdict? - Guilty
What was the penalty? - Death
Who paid it? - Jesus
How much of it? - All of it
How much is left for you? - None
"My Cross" is Jesus cross, thank God, or I would have to die for my own sins.
Daily we must deny our doubt, accept HIS gift of complete forgiveness by faith & follow him into the abundant life he promised. Herein is trust, obedience & fulfillment.
Delivered0ne 1 year ago 22
love it!!!!
zell0724 1 year ago
Sometimes we complain to God by saying why am i going thru this, but we dont see that God is permitting it for the good of His children for the future.. He is preparing us for what He has prepared for us, which is something much greater.. Gods ways and thoughts are higher than our ways and thoughts.. tho sometimes we do not understand we must learn to trust in Him even when it hurts.. Be sure its happening for a greater purpose.. as Jesus carried the cross that belong to us why shouldnt we
newme777x 1 year ago 3
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man god's a dick
watthem1992 1 year ago
BLESSED BE TH NAME OF TH LORD !
annedoks 1 year ago
he was asking God to cut pieces from his cross and then thanking him when obviously he's the one cutting his own cross.
chartreusebeauty17 1 year ago 3
Who does this cartoon?
hotwarrior8 1 year ago
May God bless your cross and help you cross the great divide!
PickUpYourCross 1 year ago
Jesus is my rock!!!!
kylaluvsblaine02 2 years ago
hehehe Thk you. IF my believe cause me to be abnormal person in human eyesight, it might be better than abnormal in God eyesight. I don't fear if people laugh on me. I accept to have my blood of ADam and Eva , rather than Monkey blood. hehheehe God bless I'm also tired but please know that God never tired with u
jumboBJ 2 years ago
Thank you
I ridiculous by human.
Better than I ridiculous by God.
I don't fear if Human laugh on me.
Because i don't accept my mother my blood is from Monkey. hehehe
jumboBJ 2 years ago
@jumboBJ
Your blood is not from a monkey. You are misunderstand or worse, misrepresenting evolution.
Monkeys are just as much "modern" or evolved animals as we are, as is every living
thing on the planet. Humans and other modern apes share a fairly recent common ancestor, as do monkeys, cows, whales, marsupials, etc.
We share a common ancestor with all life on the planet, but you will have to look further back in time for the great-great.. grandfather we shared with jellyfish, mushrooms, etc.
Nilguiri 1 year ago
That's why I said ;
To know technology and to believe in God
it cause us different result.
I don't blaim that technology is bad.
But under all revolution evolution are from God. Not from own human brain. God give brain and human knowledge to do something, but he din't give blind heart to us to know him
jumboBJ 2 years ago
when I die, i just know i cannot bring scientific with me. I just can bring my saviour life to meet Jesus and God on last Judgement day. Because I believe that Hifi network and all technology cannot push me to heaven. And although there is no heaven, even I don't know technology,I will be same as other who know.
jumboBJ 2 years ago
The writer of any stories won't show contradictory for sure. They will write smoothly by convincing you to believe.But Bible is recording history the real from period to period. If u find Bible is smooth word,i think that is fake story for sure
jumboBJ 2 years ago
even i'm christian, i'm not perfect than other. I hope i won't be the same yellow man in MV.one day.
The reason to believe God is Believe.
It is not only some reasons cause us or force us to believe him
jumboBJ 2 years ago
Christian Jesus God is not Religion.
But God Jesus is the truth of Human Life.
jumboBJ 2 years ago
amen!praise the Lord Jesus Christ.praise our King
terrunazz 2 years ago
Very Very Reality of Human Life
Human refuse to know God and not accept jesus. even christian, if we not surrender to God. Finally we lost blessing
jumboBJ 2 years ago
Religion is based on delusion and human life (like all life) is comparable to a virus. Soon your death cult and all others will become outdated. I can see why the promise of eternal life and threats of hell entranced the majorities throughout history, and I forgive all religious people.. Pure forgiveness, we are just creatures.
fetalbetal 2 years ago
no Jesus is God Jesus awaits for you and loves you so much.feed your soul let the Lord advise you.strive to keep you command and seek for him.cry to him.believe in him with all your heart.you dont need a pair of legs a car or money after your death.but your soul needs needs Jesus to enter the most beautiful place ever
remeber
terrunazz 2 years ago
Do you believe that people of the Islamic faith believe in Allah because the Quran is true, or because they were told to believe that it's true? I don't believe in your God for the same reason you don't believe in the thousands of mythological deities throughout history. It may comfort you to have belief but that does not make it true. Also, I don't believe in life after death, there may be, but I have not found any reason to believe that there is. Thank you though.
fetalbetal 2 years ago
Why didn't all of the other Christians share their cross?
Selfish, holier than thou hypocrites!
I thought Christianity was all about love, sharing, helping each other out, good Samaritan, love thy neighbour, Do unto others.. etc.
I've always wondered why Christians, especially in the US, tend to be right wing... It makes no sense at all. It is so hypocritical.
This is just another example, although I'm sure they don't see the irony.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
because when u die, its not between ur friends and u and jesus.. just you and God. if ur want a stronger sense of christianity, pick up a bible and start reading the gospels. and dont assume so much :P
ahsa4974 2 years ago
ha ha ha!
You say that I'm the one assuming stuff, yet you lot are the ones that are assuming so much! More hypocrisy!
I prefer to live my life based on the real world, based on facts and evidence, not some old book, the vast majority of which is just fairy stories... and not very good ones at that.
If you were to live your life according to the bible, you would be in jail or a mental hospital within a week.
My advice to you is to get out while you are still young and (relatively) sane.
;)
Nilguiri 2 years ago
you prefer to live your life the way u want to live it. based on culture and choice. and you are assuming stuff :P not all christians are hypocrites. can u call me a hypocrite? how so? what facts and evidence are you talking about? and your opinion about the bible is irrational :P why judge on the word of God when u dont read it, or even try to apply to it? and no. through Christ there is LIFE, not jail or a mental hospital :P my advice to you is to get into it before your time is over =]
ahsa4974 2 years ago
I called you a hypocrite in this case because you said that I assumed so much. Well, the idea of god is an assumption, people didn't understand why the Man, the earth, etc was here, so they assumed that "god" created it all and then went on to make a whole series of assumptions; e.g. all powerful, loving, etc. in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
The evidence I am talking about is scientific evidence,which contradicts just about everything that the bible says, e.g. evolution, cosmology...
Nilguiri 2 years ago
mm. the idea of God was not an assumption, the words written in the bible are proven today in so many ways to be true. prophecy books ( u can look into that ) came true. historical truth ( noahs ark found, with perfect measurements, locations, etc ). science doesnt contridict the bible at all, it supports it a lot =] evolution was straight up darwins theory, and with darwin is SUCH a different story if u ever really want to talk about it.
ahsa4974 2 years ago
And as far as ending up in jail or a mental hospital, I was referring to the fact that if you followed the bible, you would have to murder people for so many things, such as disagreeing with their parents, for not being a virgin on their wedding night, for worshipping other gods, etc. The bible is very clear on these points. If you obey it, you would go to jail, or in your "civilized" country, you would get the death penalty, and in other, more civilized countries, end up in psychiatric care.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
no no no no no. yee. remember, the bible is a book of love. jesus came on earth not to condemn the world, and for the righteous, but for the sinners. he came out of love. if u knew Jesus, he would know the purpose of his Word. i know the bible pretty well =]. so the bible commands me to love my brothers, i wouldnt go to jail. the bible is clear on who God is, and what real LOVE is. if u have aim i would love to talk to you, not as an arguement, but so its easier to speak things out =] "o0Ctb0o"
ahsa4974 2 years ago
The words of the bible have NOT been proven. I don't know where you got that idea from, although I can imagine that you have been brainwashed from an early age.
A few things may be historically correct, but Noah's ark or a universal flood is certainly not one of them. And as for a virgin birth, a man coming back from the dead, Adam and Eve, talking snake, these are obviously fairy tales. You can't seriously tell me that you believe all that rubbish, can you?
Science DOES contradict the bible.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
the words of the bible HAVE been proven. tell me. where is it not proven? and stop with the narrowminded insults, u look stupid :P u admited a "few" which is actually many historically things have been correct. and how is noahs ark not one of them...? look in your bible, if u have one :P let me ask you this. do you believe there is a Jesus? the Jesus that is portrayed in the bible? and science does not contradict the bible :P u want to show me how? cuz otherwise ur just throwing out words..
ahsa4974 2 years ago
The words of the bible have not been proven. The opposite is true. The onus is on you to prove it. Extraordinary claims require ext. proof. However, dogma does not claim to require proof.Noah's ark is not fact. It is a fairy tale. It would not work, it is ridiculous. It is possible that there was a large flood, possibly in the Black Sea, but that does mean that some guy got all the animals together to save them. It is a nice story, but it is preposterous to suggest that it has any basis in fact.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
let me ask you this. if i told you i was Jesus, would u die for me? One proof is this. Jesus, with ALL that he is, and with all that is written, had to be true. why else did A LOT of key people in the bible were willing to die for this? because of what they SAW was true. noash ark is a fact :P they FOUND the boat. look it up. archelogist found many fishes on mountain tops and cant find a reason except through the flood. thats one proof on it, not a fairy tale :P
ahsa4974 2 years ago
If you told me you were Jesus, why would I want to die for you . ha ha ha! no, of course not! It is ridiculous.
Why would I want to die for some poor deluded person who says he was Jesus!
And the fact that people have died in "his" name IS NOT PROOF of his existence! Do you even know what proof is? Obviously not!
And they DID NOT find Noah's ark! It is NOT a fact! Even if they found a boat that seems to correspond to the description, it does not mean that the story of the flood is true!
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Who was that woman who drove that boat around with all the animals on board in the bible?
Spud365 2 years ago
Noah?
Nilguiri 2 years ago
No, of course I didn't noah, that was like, a hundred years ago.
Spud365 2 years ago 10
If you do not know why fishes (I presume you mean fossils) have been found up mountains, then I suggest you study a bit of geology you moron!
Coincidentally, Charles Darwin himself found marine fossils high in the Andes at an altidude of 4300m! In fact that is what got him thinking about the fact that the earth had changed and was not fixed - created in its current form by "god". This was before he thought about natural selection, although he realized that animals would have to adapt.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Why do you tell me to look in "my" bible? as if I'm going to find proof there. It is not going to magically prove itself just by rereading it. Do you not understand that?
Yes, I believe that is is possible that a historical Jesus may have existed, but I believe none of the supernatural claims, such as the virgin birth, the resurrection, the miracles, etc. There has never been a case of human parthenogenesis. Neither has anybody ever returned from the dead or turned water into wine, etc
Nilguiri 2 years ago
rereading? so ur telling me that you read the bible? if u read the bible and understood it, than u would know of what i speak of. there has been MANY cases of people dying and coming back to life. i can go on and on and on of the many miracles that has happend on this earth within this week :P
ahsa4974 2 years ago
Sorry mate, I can't waste talking to you any more.
You just don't make any sense and are not willing to listen to rational thought.
I said that the bible id not going to magically prove itself to be true by rereading it over and over again. I did not say that if "I" redread it necessarily.
There have been NO cases of ppl dying and coming back. They may have appeared dead, but they can't have been.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
To turn water which is a simple molecule of oxygen and hydrogen into a complex mix of organic acids, proteins, tannin, salts, minerals, yeast, bacteria and fungi, etc is patently absurd.
So, yes, those are just a few examples of how science contradits the bible.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Why would you not go to jail if you stoned your disobedient son to death, or an adulteress, or a non-virgin bride or a person that believes in a different god. As I said, the bibhle is extremely clear on these things, and it is not written in the bible that Jesus rescinded these very clear instructions.
You lot choose to be homophobic, but ignore the bits about mixing fibres, trimming your beard and stoning people if they so much sneeze in your direction!
Nilguiri 2 years ago
let me ask u this, where did u get ur basic morals of right and wrong? and stop being judgemental :P im not homophobic :P and stop with the ignorant insults :P why ask when ur not willing to listen? is this how u respond to ur past teachers as well? when u dont get something u just throw insults :P nice
ahsa4974 2 years ago
Morals come about as a result of evolution. Other apes have morals and they have got them without inventing a god. Many animals have found that altruism and cooperation is more beneficial than being selfish. Other apes show most if not all of what we call morals. People who do not want to live in a society full of murder, rape, and crime tend to get to reproduce and pass on their genes more than immoral people. Our morals have advanced since the time of the bible IN SPITE of religious teachings.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
The bible, apart from a few "love thy neighbours" is a hateful and intolerant book.
There are more moral examples in any daily newspaper editorial!
Nowadays, for ex, it is acceptable for people to be openly gay, and we are much less racist than even a few years ago. If we were to follow the bible, it would be disastrous for society. It is not true to suggest that without god, people would automatically become child-molesters, etc. Less religious countries tend to have better social conditions.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
He basically didn't answer your question. Morality comes from God, animals have a basic survival instinct that prohibits them, on occasions, from competing for scarce resources. but to try and compare this to objective morality is idiotic. as an atheist he has no basis for saying anything is right or wrong. if there is no god, i say that its immoral to wear a red coat on a tuesday with as much legitimacy as he would have in saying it immoral to murder someone.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
Jesus Tapdancing Christ, and you have the audacity to say that I am at a complete loss to form a rational argument!!!!
Morality does not come from god!!! ha ha ha ha!
An atheist has no basis for saying what is right an wrong! What a load of crap!
You wouldnt know a rational argument if it bit you in the ass!
I think all evidence shows that you are an arrogant, ignorant moron!
Goodbye.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Well I think you demonstrated my point better in those 7 or 8 sentences than I could ever have done. My thanks to you.
Alright, goodbye. And God Bless :P
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
If you are interested, I've already explained my views on morality a couple of pages back. I'm not going to waste my time explaining again it to an ignorant, close-minded fundamentalist.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Im interested in hearing you justify your views on morality, perhaps by trying to explain them rationally. Given that my post was a direct response to your statement of these views I think you time might not be so wasted after all. Even if I am an ignorant fundamentalist...
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
Examine the concept of God, presupposing there is absolutely no scientific evidence whatsoever to support the concept (a false premise - but we shall persevere). you state that belief in the existence of god without evidence is irrational but many forms of metaphysical truth are based upon no evidence whatsoever, morality has no scientific basis, nor do aesthetic statements of beauty, even many science itself (e.g. relativity) is often based upon assumption
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
Okay, obviously you haven't done enough research. Stoning people, mixing fibers,and trimming beards were all things they did a long time ago, in Hebrew times. All those things were mentioned in the first part of the bible, the Old Testament, becase
JesusGirlz09 2 years ago
because they were simply recording events that happened in those times. But if you look in the NEW Testament, you would see that Jesus you said "He who has not sinned, throw the first stone". He stopped the Jewish from doing all the hypocritical things they were doing, put away with all the silly rules like "mixing fibers" and whatnot, and instead taught to love thy neighbor, because if you loved people you wouldn't murder, rape, etc. Next time, get ALL the facts first :P
JesusGirlz09 2 years ago
As far as I know, Jesus didn't revoke those laws.
The bible contradicts itself in many places, but is just plain wrong in most places...
One example of the bible contradicting itself?
... ok
The animals that Noah was supposed to take is described in 3 different ways. Not that I'm too bothered, because it is all invented anyway - or an extremely exaggerated story.
That fact that it is self contradictory is less important than it being mainly a load of nonsense written by gibbering idiots.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
@Nilguiri
how about Adam Eva , and urself u think it's exaggerated ??? the system in mobile phone is complex. Human create it. Our body is more system than mobile phone.
Who build it? Monkey? Is it exaggerated?
if God is fake, who lose benefit? No one.
But if Jesus and God is true ,who lose?
It is u, not God.
jumboBJ 2 years ago
Wow!
I don't even know where to start with that! Incredible!
I suggest you attend a little more school and a lot less church! Or you could start by watching some videos about evolution by natural selection (ring a bell?) here on YouTube. If you want, I can recommend some.
If god exists who loses? Well, if he is as violent, barbaric, spiteful, vengeful, intolerant and insanely jealous and cruel a tyrant as he is made out to be in the bible, then I prefer to think that he doesn't exist, thanks.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
@Nilguiri
But I also recommend you, if you have chance one day,please attend more church. Having more knowledge in schools cannot help us to have real peaceful (always). I didn't ask u to believe, And God not force us to believe. Many people misunderstand Jesus Christian. Maybe the church or believe or someone around u not show the real meaning of Christian.
Sorry for that. But hope u will find him by urself one day.
jumboBJ 2 years ago
No offense jumbo, I'm sure you are a very nice person, but you are talking absolute nonsense!
Please look up "irreducible complexity" to address your evident misunderstanding about how evolution works. Specifically your example about about mobile phones.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
@Nilguiri I don't know that i'm nice person.Only God knows it. And as I known God, he is not nonsense. If he nonsense,i won't waste my time to tell you. Just let you misunderstand and let you believe in what u believe. On the Noah period before 40 days flooding, Noah also told all people that it will flood.But all people also said Non sense.
jumboBJ 2 years ago
Yes, but "he" didn't did he? It was just a story among many other universal flood myths, such as the epic of Gilgamesh. It is a nice story, but it is impossible in so many ways that there is absolutely no doubt that it did not happen.
Did you research irreducible complexity yet? At least read about it, watch a few videos. Dogma and faith do nothing to advance Man's understanding of the natural world, whereas science does.
Many, if not most of all bishops, etc believe in evolution, by the way.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
@Nilguiri
Even Bishop, pastor or me
might not go to heaven if i failed on last Judgement. God din't see that my name is chistian.I have more chance than other.He is fair enough to know who have the real heart to trust and know him during one life we have. So if u follow teachnoligy he didn't blaim, but he just remind me and u that don't forget last judgement day.
jumboBJ 2 years ago
Please, spare me the mumbo jumbo and gibberish. It means nothing!
That sort of language might be fashionable amongst your christian (evangelist?) friends, but to "normal" people, you just make yourself sound ridiculous!
Nilguiri 2 years ago
@Nilguiri Excuse me, but I really recommend you watch the documentary "God of Wonders." It'll open your eyes, and it's just really good to watch. I'm not saying your belief is wrong, just try to open your mind the same way your trying to open ours to your beliefs.
OriLOK2 1 year ago
@OriLOK2 OK, fair comment. I'll look out for it, although at the risk of judging a book by its cover, just the title seems to suggest that it takes it for granted that god exists and talks about how great he is. If that is the case, I pretty much know now that it won't convince me.
;)
Nilguiri 1 year ago
@Nilguiri where is mobile phone from?
Answer; from Natural. I think no one will believe. BeCau Human create it. How about our body? Our brain from Natural ? No way. God made it.Our brain more systemize and complex than 3G phone.
technology save ur life but Believe and trust in God will save ur soul. I explain it is not i want to win u but explain what u might know him more oneday.
jumboBJ 2 years ago
I can see by your answer that you have totally ignored my suggestion that you learn something about the subject rather than just repeating the same, tired old arguments which have been disproved beyond all doubt.
This is a good place to start, please do yourself a favour and watch it: watch?v=xGyh1Qsw-Ak
It addresses exactly you problem with the mobile phone.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
You seem to assume that just because stuff is written in the bible it, that is proof that is true. That is a preposterous idea, especially as the bible was written between 2 and 3 thousand years ago and has been edited and censored and rewritten hundreds of times since then - even if you assume that it was written by your "god" in the first place, which it obviously wasn't. The whole idea is just ridiculous and to say that modern science backs it up is a downright lie.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
let me ask u this. if the bible HAS been rewritten/censored so many times, why doesnt the bible contradict itself? science doesnt deny there is a higher being. MANY MANY MANY scientist globally agrees to it. there is no other explaination. u should seriously think about the complexity of how humans came about. it was no accident we are here :P
ahsa4974 2 years ago
You ask why the bible doesn't contradict itsself! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
Well, it does, time and time again!
Science does not and indeed cannot deny a higher being, as it is impossible to either prove or disprove it. However science makes NO mention of a higher being. As soon as there is proof of that, god will become part of science, but until then it will not.
If a scientist believes in god, it is because he chooses to compartmentalize his rational and irrational thoughts.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Its amazing how you come across a so supremely self-confident yet when it comes to actual rational argument you seem to be at a complete loss. You seriously can't really believe statements like "when a scientist believes in god, it is because he chooses to compartmentalize rational and irrational thoughts"?
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
Some parts of science could coexist with a belief in god, but biology and cosmology, for example cannot. If a scientist believes in Adam and Eve, the virgin birth, resurrection and all that bullshit, the only possible way to have them both is to have 2 opposing, contradictory ideas, which you would HAVE to compartmentalize.
Although a "true" scientist would have come to the conclusion that there is no room for a god.
If god can be proved to exist, he will necessarily become a part of science.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
A true scientist? Who are you to determine who is, or isn't a true scientist? Your very words desecrate the reputation of men like Newton, Einstein, Galileo, Kelvin or Faraday. Even modern day Christians like the Director of the Human Genome project. These men obviously believed the existence of God was rational, otherwise they wouldn't have accepted it. If anything cosmology is incompatible with atheism. Look up the Kalam cosmological argument or examine mathematical order within the cosmos...
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
Well, that's why I used inverted commas, to avoid the "true Scotsman" fallacy. What I mean is somebody who believes the evidence and accepts proof instead of blindly accepting dogma.
How can cosmology be incompatible with atheism? All the biblical descriptions of how the world, etc was created have been proved wrong! Why should we trust the half-baked, lame opinions of what some semi-literate writer from the bronze age instead of modern scientific investigation?
Nilguiri 2 years ago
There are numerous arguments that point towards the existence of some sort of creative design behind the universe - look them up. If we flip the coin, there are no equatable arguments that support strong atheism - you contention that there IS no God; and even if we were to presuppose a YE creationist view of the Genesis accounts these have not, as you state, been proved wrong scientifically.Neo-darwinistic theories of origin of species,e.g. have not been proved - they are simply that - theories.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
What do you mean "simply" a theory? That is as good as it gets in science! Evolution is as much a a fact as gravity and the best explanation we have to explain it is The Theory of Evolution by natural selection. The function of DNA and natural selection is extremely well understood and proven.
If you have a better explanation that involves god, well publish it. If it proves correct, god WILL become part of science, as I said.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Evolution is a fact; neo-darwinistic theories on the origin of species are not.Evolution is used to explain them, not the other way around.They can't be proven because they go beyond proof. They're simply an attempt to extrapolate the data we have and create a theory of how things operated in the past.Nor have theories like abiogenesis, which have never even been explained with adequate consensus, let alone tested or observed; and if naturalism cannot provide answers, you know the alternative.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
QuisSeperabit60
Here is a video which addresses your idea about "christian" scientists:
watch?v=wbrQI0r1B7w
btw, Einstein was skeptical about religion and did not believe in a personal god. He was agnostic or possibly atheist.
And as for Francis Collins, well, he may be the Director of the Human Genome Project, but he
didn't discover the human genome, he organized the team.
Check out what Richard Dawkins says about him: watch?v=4tRpbkpNpgw
Check out what Sam Harris says about him, too.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Einstein was a deist who firmly believed in Spinoza's God. Whether he was skeptical about religion or the idea of a personal God or not really has no bearing on the point I was trying to make.
I've heard Dawkins preach many times before, so you'll forgive me if I'm not entirely enthusiastic about watching videos by a man so repulsive he believes it would be better to molest a child than to bring them up in the Christian faith.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about?
First, it is ridiculous to suggest that Dawkins says it is better to molest a child! That's batshit crazy! You have chosen to misunderstand and misrepresent what he has said. Nothing new there!
Secondly, What ad hominem attacks are you talking about? You are a pathetic liar.
False assumption? Villification?
It is ironic that you charge me with being blinded by preconceptions!! Since when have you lot let mere facts get in the way of your laughable dogma?
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Okay, give me ONE instance in which the bible contradicts itself.
JesusGirlz09 2 years ago
By the way, are you suggesting that the bible has not been edited? If you think that is the case, you are mistaken. That is a historical fact. Large parts of it have been lost or deliberately exluded. e.g. the gospels of Judas, Mary, Peter... It has been copied many times - copies of copies of copies. That in itself usually tends to introduce errors, either deliberately or accidentally.
It is an apocryophal collection which may contain some facts but is mainly "fairy stories".
Nilguiri 2 years ago
The gospels of Judas, Mary and Peter are not canon, they are, as you say apocryphal works of a dubious historical character. So it is not a matter of "historical fact" that the Bible has been edited.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
So, what are you sayng? That the bible has never been changed? It is a complete and accurate and unchanged since it was first written in dribs and brabs over a period of 2000 years?
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Any modern electic translation is based directly upon either the Old or New Testament manuscripts as first recorded. The degree of inconsistency between different manuscripts is something like 2%, and none of it affects the central teachings or core doctrines of Christianity. The Bible is like an encyclopaedia, comprised of many different books, and the means of translation and interpretation of this encyclopaedia has changed over time. But the books it is comprised of have remained the same.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
You ask me to seriously think about the complexity of how humans came about. Well I have done many times. Evolution does not explain how the first life appears, but it certainly explains how it became human and produced every other species on the planet.
Rather, I would say that you are the one who should definitely think more carefully about it.
The bible does absolutely nothing to explain it seriously . "God did it" is NOT an explanation - and even if it was, then who or what created god?
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Everything that begins to exist requires a cause. God did not begin to exist, erego God does not require a cause.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
What does that even mean?
It sounds like it might be deep, but it is meaningless! ha ha ha!
If god doesn't exist, it is obvious that he didn't either begin, or have a "cause".
Nilguiri 2 years ago
When you argue that God needs to have been created you are assuming that God is bound by time. Assume there is no time. Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things existing in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have always existed.
The Universe, however, began to exist. It operates within the boundaries of time. The question you should be asking, is what caused it to come into existence?
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
Of course I ask myself why the universe came into existance. It is probably the greatest unanswered (perhaps unanswerable) question.
Not all theories of the creation of the universe require that time be created with the big bang.
Even if they did, a lack of knowledge about something does not have to be automatically filled in with a supernatural cause.
The simple idea that "god did it" is not an explanation, and if it were true, still leaves the question, then who created god?
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Science is about finding the best possible explanation for the data we have. I think you know all to well that the A-theory and the idea of causation are by far the most viable options. This is not about a "God of the Gaps"; its about finding the best explanation. The idea that an intelligent external energy source conciously directed is a highly tenable option. The looming prospect of theism, and your distaste for it, does nothing to detract from this.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
I understand that you may have been brought up in an evangelical community, where this sort of nonsense is humoured or even encouraged.
I am lucky enough to live in a civilized, modern society where deluded nutjobs (no offense) are either ignored or given the scorn and ridicule that they deserve. The only evangelicals where I live are gypsies who generally have chosen not to go to school and are ignorant and uneducated.
And fortunately, "normal" christianity is rapidly disappearing, too.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
Again your powers of false assumption are extradordinary, and your reputation for villification precedes you. None of my, even extended, family are Christians.
Unfortunately I don't think I can continue this discussion. When you begin to resort to ad hominem attacks its clear you have nothing useful to contribute to the debate. I hope you do sincerely look into Christianity more, with an open mind and not one blinded by preconceptions. God bless you.
QuisSeperabit60 2 years ago
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Nilguiri 2 years ago
And, I'm curious, what does "o0Ctb0o" mean.
Is that some sort of evangelical hex you have cast on me for being a non-believer?
ha ha ha!
Nilguiri 2 years ago
thats my screename on aim if u use it =] ur assuming too much again
ahsa4974 2 years ago
I can understand how people thought that there might gods thousands, or even hundreds of years ago, but Man has come a long way since then, well most of us have.
Science now has a good explanation of the phenoma which led people to invent god, such as cosmology, evolution, metoerology, night and day, as well as morals, love, death, etc. and continually strives to understand and explain our universe, unlike religion which has basically stagnated in the superstitious ignorance of the bronze age.
Nilguiri 2 years ago
"Beyond the Crimson Cross"
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Psycho12317 2 years ago
wow great video and song. I wish more people my age could see this.
JaredOrtiz 3 years ago
Jezus heeft gezegd dat God en de joden moest een lid van de God van Jezus en het beste wat
sfinkxxxx 3 years ago
the artist is relient K and the song is called "for the moments I feel faint"
doeturner 3 years ago 2
How i wish 3d programmer could render this as a cartoon. Please keep the fire burning
uncletrumpet 3 years ago
can i have the title and the singer of this song?
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luffsunday78 3 years ago
This is true, but I must say... When is too difficult Jesus help us to carry our cross, this is the hope of all believers, otherwise, this video would not say anything new for anybody. The good news is: WITH JESUS, WHEN ITS TOO HEAVY HE SHOWS HIS LOVE AND HIS MERCY AND MIRACLES HAPPENS. I TRUST IN MY SAVIOR, WE SHOULD NOT GIVE UP, BUT HE HELP US IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WALK! ALL THE GLORY TO HIM!
MltMartins 3 years ago
WHETHER CHRISTIAN or NOT... THE MESSAGE IS FOR ALL:
"ALL LIFE IS A CROSS!"
"AND HOW WE BEAR IT AND LEARN TO ACCEPT IT, DEVELOPS CHARACTER, AND CLEANSES THE MIND FROM DEFILEMENTS"
Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. Before the crown of victory, we all need to patiently carry our crosses
Mwaterfall 3 years ago
Great message, this is.
~God bless
RaptureMe2 4 years ago