@jedipablo Thank you, and yes, it's so spanish.. According to a comment of someone very generous, it was not filmed in Spain but it's missioninn ~ dot ~ com
@jedipablo I can't understand the places because you cannot see so much, but all Spain, my friend, is biutuful (like the movie "Biutiful"). Also Greece, Italy. Mediterranean sea, history, great civilizations, sun and sea. Greetings from Greece!
just recently went to see tears for fears at the casino ballroom the seatingsucked the peoplel were rude and im short but when all was said and done i found a great place to stand and dance and enjoy the hell out of the concert bye the way it was my third time seeing them and they have always been a top notch act sound wise and performance truly proffesionals
With “Raoul” he got rid of a lot of intellectual clutter, it can be perfectly felt here: many songs have a relaxed quality, convey a sense of elation, peace and serenity.
I think the issue is once again addressed with “Los Reyes Catolicos”, which – it seems to me – stumbles again over the misleading concept of an “earthly native land”.
There is a song from XTC that I recently discovered, “The Disappointed” which deals – more negatively – with the same issue.
@tht707 He also got rid of a lot of the pain that he was feeling about the way that his father treated him too. I'm sensing a lot of pain here and monkeys on his shoulder that he needed to rid of. :)
@CelesteK: Whoever makes a person suffer, the whole thing mustn't be reduced to a psichological framework. Luckily, Roland produces songs and not "modern" psychology books.
@tht707 I think that for Roland music was his form of therapy. I mean he was the "black sheep" of his family. Middle kids sometimes are the black sheep. I know from experience that there's something called "middle kid syndrome" in which the middle child often times will do anything to get attention and if they don't get attention at home then they're going to find it elsewhere.
If you arrest yourself to the face value of religious feelings, as they intermingle with cultural values, you are in danger of falling into nationalism. If you entirely refuse them, you are in danger of falling into totalitarism or a generic ideal of man-made “democratic peace”. I think Roland addressed a specific weakness of catholic -culture- with “Mr. Pessimist”, which is not the substance constituting the church.
hi bunarbashi, thank you. No, it would be erroneous to refer to a country’s cultural tradition only, when you consider the nature of revelation. It is true that cultural traditions became incarnations of the faith of its people, but the actual experience of faith does not rely on local values. In fact, the term “tradition” has a very different meaning in scriptural language than the one it has in common language.
@bunarbashi: I see it's from the same source as the one I've found: a (rather) poor TV recording from our (italian) old music video channel, Videomusic (you may see the small logo).
If you want the old videos, I'm sure there's a DVD edition, the ones lacking are the recent ones… :-(
@tht707 Thank you for the precious info that this was from an italian TV called Videomusic. I appreciate it very much. It's kind of impressive that italian viewers perhaps appreciated this song deeply lyrics-wise as Raul is an italian name (wise ruler, wolf) thus, king... Once again, thank you for the source info and dvd edition availability.
@bunarbashi: Well, actually I know too little of european history to properly address Roland's lyrics, which in this album deal with his spanish heritage (and his experience in how catholic faith has transformed european culture). If you recall, there's a song on Elemental where Roland seems negative about catholicism as a sort of "cultural trait", while here it seems he dug deeper…
In his following work he keeps dealing with the matter. Do you have it?
@tht707 Thank you very much for the very sensible comment. I am a total layman at history and Roland's lyrics seem too fathomed sometimes... But you sound very rational and intuitive on the interpretations of this song. And please pardon me but as to catholic's cultural trait, are you talking about "Mr. Pessimist"? I have admirations to you for your affinity with songs from religious aspects. Was the great history of your country's religion one of the inspirations on you, if you'd allow me ask?
@melissastrawbridge Thank you for the nice comment, you are so true...! And it is very nice of you to mention his Spanish heritage.
As you said, according to some source, his mother changed his name from Raoul to Roland, so she won the cross cultural battle in her family. :-) [sorry if you already know this!]
I also noticed you're a fan of Joy Division. I remember buying Unknown Pleasures when it came out. Yes, I'm that old! I was completely immersed in that record.
Have you read Deborah Curtis' book 'Touching From a Distance'?
It caused me to have a bitter feeling towards Ian. He was a selfish bastard, but I still love his writing. I can't bring myself to hate him.
@bfall66 Thank you very much for the nice comment. You have a great taste to buy "Unknown Pleasures" when it came out. From what I hear, it didn't attract people's attention very much until Tony Wilson did a gigantic campaign on it afterwards. So I hold respects for you.
I haven't got to read Deborah's book yet. To be honest, I hadn't known it until you mentioned it :P I'd like to check it out. So thank you for mentioning it. Is it a detailed story about his affairs and outlets on her and more?
@bunarbashi - I bought it by chance. There was a really cool record store in Ardmore PA that carried music that the dig chains weren't. I liked the cover, and the song titles sounded intriguing. I found Simple Mind's 'Real to Real' Cocophany the same way. I took it home, played it, and was instantly blown away.
The book - very descriptive. I believe it was her way to get everything out of her system. A form of therapy for her. Very personal stuff. Worth picking up.
@bfall66 By the way, New Order played "Shadowplay" in Blackpool, UK, somewhere around 2006. Only a tiny part of it was broadcast in a documentary program on BBC. I wonder why they've never released it. Sorry for the digression. I agree with you about "Control". A very descriptive nice movie about Joy Division. Once again, thank you.
@bunarbashi - to be honest, New Order never held any romance for me. I know they've covered JD songs in concert, but I would never be interested in hearing any of it. It just wouldn't be the same, and I don't think they should be playing those songs. But that's just me.
I'm not one who thinks that Ian was Joy Division. All 4 members were crucial. They weren't the best musicians, but they created the right atmosphere for Ian's vocals, and the emotional aspects of the lyrics.
@bfall66 Just read your comment on Ian Curtis. Like you I'm a big fan of the band, but unlike other fans I don't worship him, he wrote some great songs and had a great voice but I don't treat my favourite musicians like gods. He could very well have been a nasty selfish person as you've perceived in Deb Curtis's book. I've never read it. Looking at your other comments, I'm also into TFF, early and recent Simple Minds, as well as New Order but I think they went downhill bigtime after '85.
I still think The Hurting was one of the most brilliant and ground-breaking albums of all time. For Roland to be so young and write such deep lyrics and compose the music for that record was truly amazing.
And is it me or does Rolad and actor John Cryer look a lot alike?
Thank you for the nice comment. You're so true... Most songs in "The Hurting" were very introspective but still in this day and age, stir up our emotions.
By the way, thank you very much for bringing up "Jon Cryer"! He does look like Roland, especially of "Graduate" era.
@bunarbashi - You're very welcome. The Hurting is very dear to me.
Roland also turned me on to singer Oleta Adams. She is wonderful! After I heard her on Woman in Chains I was instantly hooked. It's just a shame that she goes unnoticed in the mainstream, and someone like Beyonce gets all the attention.
Thank you very much, sixfingr. :) She is truly talented. Shame on me, but I recently knew that she collaborated with D. Bowie. Perhaps with many other artists too..
Actually, Roland wrote all the lyrics and music. Curt just did his part according to Roland. Roland was really cute in the 80's and has a great voice.
Today I am totally in love with RATKOS. Listened to it twice on my long winding commute to work from LI into NYC. Roland's voice keeps me from jumping out of the window (if it opened of course).
Everything Roland sings is wonderful, what a voice, x
stephenhallhampstead 1 week ago
I LOVE this video!!! I have to turn it all the way up when-ever I play it!
sqirtle100 1 month ago 2
Anyone knows in Where part or parts of spain this video was made? I want to visit this places
jedipablo 1 month ago
@jedipablo Thank you, and yes, it's so spanish.. According to a comment of someone very generous, it was not filmed in Spain but it's missioninn ~ dot ~ com
bunarbashi 1 month ago
@jedipablo: First images are from Pamplona Bull Run, so... Pamplona :)
CostinMihailescu 1 month ago
@jedipablo I can't understand the places because you cannot see so much, but all Spain, my friend, is biutuful (like the movie "Biutiful"). Also Greece, Italy. Mediterranean sea, history, great civilizations, sun and sea. Greetings from Greece!
panatsopa 3 weeks ago
@jedipablo and ...crisis too...
panatsopa 3 weeks ago
@jedipablo they run with the bulls in Pamplona
john131349 1 day ago
歌唱力、ギター、楽曲すべて最高!
h1i3r5o7 2 months ago
最高!!!
h1i3r5o7 2 months ago
Roland is the man!
guntherxtent 3 months ago
Raaaouul raaaoull and the kings of Spain!
alexestrada77 4 months ago
nigga
stephencarlmagno 4 months ago
rha uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu rha uuuuuuuuuuuuuu rha uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
gabote82 4 months ago
me encanta ,gran grupo esperandolos aqui en santiago de chile para poder corear todas sus canciones el 30 de septiembre.........
gabriel1502ification 5 months ago
Curt & Roland, aquí los esperamos con los brazos abiertos y las gargantas afinadas para su concierto del 21 de Septiembre, GRACIAS POR VENIR!!!!!
mccartney161 5 months ago
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nancyaad33 6 months ago
this man has one of the best voices in music...
superbatfirenze 6 months ago 17
@superbatfirenze yes..........THE VOICE.....
MrStrat01 2 weeks ago
This album was a bit of a mess really...
jerste 6 months ago
@jerste I dug the hell out of it, really.
thelovelyratkitten 3 months ago
just recently went to see tears for fears at the casino ballroom the seatingsucked the peoplel were rude and im short but when all was said and done i found a great place to stand and dance and enjoy the hell out of the concert bye the way it was my third time seeing them and they have always been a top notch act sound wise and performance truly proffesionals
acoustamaniac 8 months ago
Espectacular tema lo vi en vivo en el recital de Chile...
fabyroro 9 months ago
Gracias x subir este este tema, particularmente me trae hermosos recuerdos.
Slds.-
Glinzua 11 months ago
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This is not that good a song actually
fortheloveoftunes 1 year ago
Wonderfull!
damespartan117 1 year ago
Holy hell, that's not the whole video =/
AllyDeLarge 1 year ago
With “Raoul” he got rid of a lot of intellectual clutter, it can be perfectly felt here: many songs have a relaxed quality, convey a sense of elation, peace and serenity.
I think the issue is once again addressed with “Los Reyes Catolicos”, which – it seems to me – stumbles again over the misleading concept of an “earthly native land”.
There is a song from XTC that I recently discovered, “The Disappointed” which deals – more negatively – with the same issue.
tht707 1 year ago
@tht707 He also got rid of a lot of the pain that he was feeling about the way that his father treated him too. I'm sensing a lot of pain here and monkeys on his shoulder that he needed to rid of. :)
CelesteK 1 year ago
@CelesteK: Whoever makes a person suffer, the whole thing mustn't be reduced to a psichological framework. Luckily, Roland produces songs and not "modern" psychology books.
tht707 1 year ago
@tht707 I think that for Roland music was his form of therapy. I mean he was the "black sheep" of his family. Middle kids sometimes are the black sheep. I know from experience that there's something called "middle kid syndrome" in which the middle child often times will do anything to get attention and if they don't get attention at home then they're going to find it elsewhere.
CelesteK 1 year ago
If you arrest yourself to the face value of religious feelings, as they intermingle with cultural values, you are in danger of falling into nationalism. If you entirely refuse them, you are in danger of falling into totalitarism or a generic ideal of man-made “democratic peace”. I think Roland addressed a specific weakness of catholic -culture- with “Mr. Pessimist”, which is not the substance constituting the church.
tht707 1 year ago
hi bunarbashi, thank you. No, it would be erroneous to refer to a country’s cultural tradition only, when you consider the nature of revelation. It is true that cultural traditions became incarnations of the faith of its people, but the actual experience of faith does not rely on local values. In fact, the term “tradition” has a very different meaning in scriptural language than the one it has in common language.
tht707 1 year ago
Wonderful. Has this promo been released on some official DVD? I have the old VHS with the promos, but of course it stops before "Elemental".
tht707 1 year ago
@tht707 Thank you very much. Unfortunately I am not very sure what is the source of this video (DVD or TV or something else). I am very sorry...
By the way, it sounds very nice that you have pv's on your VHS tapes! I always wish I could see videos on YouTube on TV's screen size.
bunarbashi 1 year ago
@bunarbashi: I see it's from the same source as the one I've found: a (rather) poor TV recording from our (italian) old music video channel, Videomusic (you may see the small logo).
If you want the old videos, I'm sure there's a DVD edition, the ones lacking are the recent ones… :-(
tht707 1 year ago
@tht707 Thank you for the precious info that this was from an italian TV called Videomusic. I appreciate it very much. It's kind of impressive that italian viewers perhaps appreciated this song deeply lyrics-wise as Raul is an italian name (wise ruler, wolf) thus, king... Once again, thank you for the source info and dvd edition availability.
bunarbashi 1 year ago
@bunarbashi: Well, actually I know too little of european history to properly address Roland's lyrics, which in this album deal with his spanish heritage (and his experience in how catholic faith has transformed european culture). If you recall, there's a song on Elemental where Roland seems negative about catholicism as a sort of "cultural trait", while here it seems he dug deeper…
In his following work he keeps dealing with the matter. Do you have it?
tht707 1 year ago
@tht707 Thank you very much for the very sensible comment. I am a total layman at history and Roland's lyrics seem too fathomed sometimes... But you sound very rational and intuitive on the interpretations of this song. And please pardon me but as to catholic's cultural trait, are you talking about "Mr. Pessimist"? I have admirations to you for your affinity with songs from religious aspects. Was the great history of your country's religion one of the inspirations on you, if you'd allow me ask?
bunarbashi 1 year ago
@bunarbashi not to forget that Raoul was Roland's name before he anglicised it, and that he has Spanish heritage! ;)
melissastrawbridge 1 month ago
@melissastrawbridge Thank you for the nice comment, you are so true...! And it is very nice of you to mention his Spanish heritage.
As you said, according to some source, his mother changed his name from Raoul to Roland, so she won the cross cultural battle in her family. :-) [sorry if you already know this!]
bunarbashi 1 month ago
@bunarbashi haha thanks :) always lovely to meet new TFF/RO fans! <3
haha to be honest there's not much I don't know about Roland, he's my fav ;)
melissastrawbridge 1 month ago
@melissastrawbridge :)) thank you so much!
bunarbashi 1 month ago
I also noticed you're a fan of Joy Division. I remember buying Unknown Pleasures when it came out. Yes, I'm that old! I was completely immersed in that record.
Have you read Deborah Curtis' book 'Touching From a Distance'?
It caused me to have a bitter feeling towards Ian. He was a selfish bastard, but I still love his writing. I can't bring myself to hate him.
And Control is a great film.
bfall66 1 year ago
@bfall66 Thank you very much for the nice comment. You have a great taste to buy "Unknown Pleasures" when it came out. From what I hear, it didn't attract people's attention very much until Tony Wilson did a gigantic campaign on it afterwards. So I hold respects for you.
I haven't got to read Deborah's book yet. To be honest, I hadn't known it until you mentioned it :P I'd like to check it out. So thank you for mentioning it. Is it a detailed story about his affairs and outlets on her and more?
bunarbashi 1 year ago
@bunarbashi - I bought it by chance. There was a really cool record store in Ardmore PA that carried music that the dig chains weren't. I liked the cover, and the song titles sounded intriguing. I found Simple Mind's 'Real to Real' Cocophany the same way. I took it home, played it, and was instantly blown away.
The book - very descriptive. I believe it was her way to get everything out of her system. A form of therapy for her. Very personal stuff. Worth picking up.
bfall66 1 year ago
@bfall66 By the way, New Order played "Shadowplay" in Blackpool, UK, somewhere around 2006. Only a tiny part of it was broadcast in a documentary program on BBC. I wonder why they've never released it. Sorry for the digression. I agree with you about "Control". A very descriptive nice movie about Joy Division. Once again, thank you.
bunarbashi 1 year ago
@bunarbashi - to be honest, New Order never held any romance for me. I know they've covered JD songs in concert, but I would never be interested in hearing any of it. It just wouldn't be the same, and I don't think they should be playing those songs. But that's just me.
I'm not one who thinks that Ian was Joy Division. All 4 members were crucial. They weren't the best musicians, but they created the right atmosphere for Ian's vocals, and the emotional aspects of the lyrics.
Coffee...!
bfall66 1 year ago
@bfall66 Just read your comment on Ian Curtis. Like you I'm a big fan of the band, but unlike other fans I don't worship him, he wrote some great songs and had a great voice but I don't treat my favourite musicians like gods. He could very well have been a nasty selfish person as you've perceived in Deb Curtis's book. I've never read it. Looking at your other comments, I'm also into TFF, early and recent Simple Minds, as well as New Order but I think they went downhill bigtime after '85.
chrisnoaro1 1 year ago
I still think The Hurting was one of the most brilliant and ground-breaking albums of all time. For Roland to be so young and write such deep lyrics and compose the music for that record was truly amazing.
And is it me or does Rolad and actor John Cryer look a lot alike?
bfall66 1 year ago
Thank you for the nice comment. You're so true... Most songs in "The Hurting" were very introspective but still in this day and age, stir up our emotions.
By the way, thank you very much for bringing up "Jon Cryer"! He does look like Roland, especially of "Graduate" era.
bunarbashi 1 year ago
@bunarbashi - You're very welcome. The Hurting is very dear to me.
Roland also turned me on to singer Oleta Adams. She is wonderful! After I heard her on Woman in Chains I was instantly hooked. It's just a shame that she goes unnoticed in the mainstream, and someone like Beyonce gets all the attention.
Anyway, great listening.
bfall66 1 year ago
Gail Ann Dorsey is one BADASS bassist. I'm in awe.
sixfingr 2 years ago
Thank you very much, sixfingr. :) She is truly talented. Shame on me, but I recently knew that she collaborated with D. Bowie. Perhaps with many other artists too..
bunarbashi 2 years ago
yes indeed. She toured with Gwen Stefani - I saw her twice! Excellent.
darkallie11 2 years ago
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Bollox! Wheres Curt ,he was the brains behind this outfit..ROLAND ORZABAL with his wide mouth and mullet haircut.....what a shit singer!!
bally40 2 years ago
i like to urinate into my own mouth
sidewalkpilot 2 years ago
Actually, Roland wrote all the lyrics and music. Curt just did his part according to Roland. Roland was really cute in the 80's and has a great voice.
darkallie11 2 years ago 6
...and really HOT in the 90s!... and today too :)
aliciabrissou 2 years ago 2
yup! ;)
darkallie11 2 years ago
I agree with you, aliciabrissou. thank you :)
bunarbashi 2 years ago
Thank you, darkallie11 for the nice comment :)
bunarbashi 2 years ago
your welcome! :)
darkallie11 2 years ago
Passion!!!
silbsas 2 years ago
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dulcevaneza 2 years ago
Amazing! It's like loud slam of a door behind you!
bigbigman3 2 years ago
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dulcevaneza 2 years ago
I suppose you're talking about the person at 0:23? It's she, a bassist named Gail Ann Dorsey. Thanks for the comment!
bunarbashi 2 years ago
i love tears for fears
NathanJackLouttit 2 years ago
Today I am totally in love with RATKOS. Listened to it twice on my long winding commute to work from LI into NYC. Roland's voice keeps me from jumping out of the window (if it opened of course).
Butterflyneverlands 2 years ago 3
the bass line is dope!
guntherxtent 2 years ago 2
my band too!!!!!! hehehehehe
chakoh1 2 years ago
Viva o Brasil !!!!!
Zininzim 2 years ago
this´s my band !!!
Zininzim 3 years ago