this woman is a totally useless piece of tory trash.,there is only one way she ever got where she is today , a brown nose,no brains,loads of mates with cash and a dyson. forget the dyson as she probably sucks harder .
It's tragic that this woman takes herself seriously as an MP when she can't even understand the most rudimentary of points on capitalism. I mean, it's like saying: "I think it's perfectly in my rights as a slave to resent the slave system I'm condemned to, but if I take the rations that my owner occasionally provides, my belief -- you know, the one about not wanting to be a slave! -- well, naturally, it'll swiftly become redundant."
If the Government guaranteed your gambling loses would be paid for by the taxpayer you would expect alot of angry taxpayers.
This is what happened with the gamblers in the City Of London, but to the sum of billions of taxpayer money, inflation, job loses, public service cuts, and currency devaluation.
Louise Mensch in S41E3, and this episode as well, was probably the most unfunny guest they ever had on this show. It was painful to watch.
Every time she "tried" to be funny it was met with utter silence. People didn't even laugh at her for being somewhat silly. What made her -so- unappealing was she was trying too hard to be funny that it was just sad to watch. Every time she was serious it just made her look stupidly bigoted.
I don't recall her getting a single laugh throughout that episode.
Tory = Conservative = Inept, useless, out-of-touch, bigoted, sad, useless again, waste of a vote etc. They are perfectly entitled to exist but...the great English public still vote for them??? They would transport the population of the country back to the 1820s when people were forced to have children just to provide a cheap alternative to turkey at Christmas!...The Zenith of Empire - when "we" ruled the world! 0.05% of the population lived like kings and the rest made it possible for them!
@billyconnearly I agree with you on the whole but have just one question - what happened to the rest of the UK? It's usually Americans on here who think England and the UK are the same thing, as if Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland, The Channel Islands, Isle of Man etc. etc. don't exist!
@Tom0749 Because they had a cup of coffee? I'm a socialist; that doesn't mean I have to return to the dark ages in order to value my integrity. Stupid Tories.
@Tom0749 its not hypocrisy when its the only option. I don't see many conservatives avoiding nationalised services like healthcare when they say socialism is a modern evil. Seriously, Its like cutting a fart in a lift, then telling people off when they complain it smells, because "they didn't have to breathe the air"
One could ask Mensch why she was happy to take all that EMI - her first employer - offered, while giving so little in return. EMI's patience eventually ran out and they sacked her for being bone idle.
Ironically, Mensch in Yiddish means "a person of integrity and honor". In this particular case it appears to mean "hypocrite" - an ideal qualification for the world of politics.
'better to get some lobbyists in' Ian Hislop just became my hero! as for her, I'd hate to go to her constituency, must be full of cunts to vote her in!
like the video response, I wholeheartedly agree. Even if you want to go with a complete or an almost complete nuclear disarmament, you realize that today you will have to hold on to those nuclear weapons until it's safer to disarm.
I'm not sure what she was trying to do. I'm assuming she was trying to be funny.
But she just came off as a career politician.
The fact that she used to be a labour politician when blair was in power suggests shes out just to be in the winning team.
Looks like someone bought in to fill the chick quota. Should be ok as long as she gets her tits out or fucks off back to labour with the rest of the brainless career politicians.
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she made a good point, its clear from the type of insults she's getting such as 'stupid bitch' and 'stuck up bitch' that there is something about an intelligent, well-spoken women that threatens and annoys misogynist men.
@YouandOpenFlames. It hardly precludes them from having an opinion but if you are against the wildest excesses of capitalism you probably shouldn't shop at Starbucks.
Paul Merton destroyed her, with humour. Humour is something politicians can't cope with. Also Marx said We will use the tools of capitalism to destroy it. In Mensch's case perhaps water boarding her with coffee?
It sounds to me that's she's riled an awful lot of you socialist kids up. She makes a good point. We're seeing protesters holding banners saying "Capitalism is crisis" (if that's not anti-capitalist I don't know what is), yet they're happy to buy from Starbucks and use iPhones. The only hypocrites here are the protesters and you lot for supporting them, plus parties like Labour who cosied up to the banks during their government.
@TheInnocentExile You are forgetting the point - the people who use Capitalism to promote greed and poverty are their targets. Last time I checked you can get coffee and iPhones in China and in Vietnam. Does that make them Capitalist pigs? And last I checked, having a cup of coffee doesnt mean you are hypocrite, it means you are having a cup of coffee, and LAST I checked, Starbucks HAVE been supporting the poor and accepted their practices were kinds crap and they are working to fix it.
@Pepingco First of all, just because you can get certain products in communist countries doesn't mean the products have nothing to do with capitalism. Apple and starbucks are known for selling reasonable quality for ridiculous prices - is that not exploiting consumers (greed)? Instead of getting coffee at the most globalized coffee company in the world, starbucks, why don't they go to a local place to help the local shopkeeper? that's the point the mp wants to make, but she makes it badly.
@TheInnocentExile have a look at the video reply on here too. An ipad is a useful tool in getting the word around about these protests and generally communicating which is essential. If we lived in a world where you could get this things without going through a corporation I'm sure some of them would, but that isn't an option. go and talk to the people there before passing judgement. Yes some there are anti-capitalist but not all! Also see the video reply for more insight into this reasoning
You can protest against what capitalism brings without protesting about capitalism - that's fairly obvious. The inherent flaws and greed in human beings unfortunately renders the system as we know it as one that ends in the utter polarisation of wealth.
The system isn't worthless, but the market and economy has become so unbelievably monopolised that there now needs to be some way of an increased mediation in the way that the market is run, instead of fairweather governing.
What an awful, awful person. Louise Mensch personifies everything wrong with smug, out-of-touch, disdainful, wilfully stupid Tories. She makes me angry and sick.
(cont) they might have a problem with the amount of money Starbucks has but I'm sure they have no problem with it being distributed world wide as a lot of people like it. It seems as though she has confused capitalism with globalisation
It's unbelievable how stupid she has made herself sound. The system we are under is capitalism and certain areas of it have gone badly wrong. The protesters are against the negatives and think those areas at the very least need to be adjusted towards the ideas of a more equal system. Her argument suggests that, as she is someone who supports capitalism she should be out celebrating all the people it has kept in poverty.
You can't win against these illogical idiots, you don't use the capitalistic system and your ignored as a hippy, you use it and your ignored as a hypocrite. She's doesn't even know what the protest is about, yet she criticises and she's an MP! frightening!
Judging by the amount of sniping comments here, it seems she's touched a nerve. Surely what she meant, quite reasonably in my opinion, is that there is more than a touch of hypocrisy about the protestors. It's not just about a 'cup of coffee' as Paul Merton says, but about claiming to be anti-capitalist, but being quite happy to use all of the system's resources and technology for comfort, instead of being true to your word as best anyone can i.e. saying one thing and doing another.
@sabbatini2 The vast majority of these protesters aren't anti-capitalism, they're anti-greed and anti-inequality.
Capitalism has very little to do with it since it does not necessitate fucking over the majority to achieve its goals, it's just the particular brand of capitalism that we've allowed to take hold in the western world does for the most part.
Capitalism needs to be kept in check to work and it's a lack of checks that have got us in the mess we're in.
If she loves capitalism so much, she should get a proper job and stop mooching off the government or her husbands. Just proves the adage that there are two types of conservatives, millionaires and suckers. She's a millionaire who takes the people for suckers with her snide remarks.
I for one fully understand her point..... Starbucks has sent many a shop out of business. In reality almost anything you do is touched by greed, her remark on Iphones is very simple.... Why buy something so expensive and then complain about capitalism....
In general she is right, but these people really do not know what they want..... and its certainly not the full on destruction of capitalist greed...... capitalism and greed go hand in hand....
I remember watching this and thinking what a STUPID comment it was. It's about disagreeing with certain elements of a current system and trying to reform and improve it - it doesn't mean you have to completely detatch yourself from everything related to it, that would be pretty much possible.
@Trialsfan100 why, its no shock to me. the bigger shock is how well the BBC covered it on this show.. i mean the main fact it was asked, what are the protesters trying to achieve is a 1st for the bbc so far.
She's right, I suppose. Come on guys, let's roam about in the woods until our demands have been met, shall we?
EXetoC 2 days ago
hhahahaha, buuuuuuurn.
PitAngelico 6 days ago
this woman is a totally useless piece of tory trash.,there is only one way she ever got where she is today , a brown nose,no brains,loads of mates with cash and a dyson. forget the dyson as she probably sucks harder .
footyfan65 3 weeks ago 3
It's tragic that this woman takes herself seriously as an MP when she can't even understand the most rudimentary of points on capitalism. I mean, it's like saying: "I think it's perfectly in my rights as a slave to resent the slave system I'm condemned to, but if I take the rations that my owner occasionally provides, my belief -- you know, the one about not wanting to be a slave! -- well, naturally, it'll swiftly become redundant."
Thank you, Ian Hislop.
myopium 1 month ago 8
If the Government guaranteed your gambling loses would be paid for by the taxpayer you would expect alot of angry taxpayers.
This is what happened with the gamblers in the City Of London, but to the sum of billions of taxpayer money, inflation, job loses, public service cuts, and currency devaluation.
For millions of people.....this isn't funny.
6969dazzagazza 1 month ago
....."even if your having a cup of coffee and own a tent"... well said that man!
willhum 1 month ago
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vidjren 1 month ago
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vidjren 1 month ago
Their not against capitalism you stupid cunt.
grimblebrumble17889 1 month ago
Is that espresso on your breath? Get outta here!
pmmccurdy 1 month ago
I guess I'll have to go get my phone created by a commune or my coffee from worker run companies...wait.
enmac500 1 month ago
Louise Mensch in S41E3, and this episode as well, was probably the most unfunny guest they ever had on this show. It was painful to watch.
Every time she "tried" to be funny it was met with utter silence. People didn't even laugh at her for being somewhat silly. What made her -so- unappealing was she was trying too hard to be funny that it was just sad to watch. Every time she was serious it just made her look stupidly bigoted.
I don't recall her getting a single laugh throughout that episode.
LuigiSkyskip 1 month ago
Ian Hislop = God.
RandomJackOfDoom 1 month ago
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billyconnearly 1 month ago
Tory = Conservative = Inept, useless, out-of-touch, bigoted, sad, useless again, waste of a vote etc. They are perfectly entitled to exist but...the great English public still vote for them??? They would transport the population of the country back to the 1820s when people were forced to have children just to provide a cheap alternative to turkey at Christmas!...The Zenith of Empire - when "we" ruled the world! 0.05% of the population lived like kings and the rest made it possible for them!
billyconnearly 1 month ago
@billyconnearly I agree with you on the whole but have just one question - what happened to the rest of the UK? It's usually Americans on here who think England and the UK are the same thing, as if Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland, The Channel Islands, Isle of Man etc. etc. don't exist!
PeasLoveHarmony 1 month ago
She was just pointing out their hypocrisy.
Tom0749 1 month ago
@Tom0749 Because they had a cup of coffee? I'm a socialist; that doesn't mean I have to return to the dark ages in order to value my integrity. Stupid Tories.
mattcorden95 1 month ago
@Tom0749 its not hypocrisy when its the only option. I don't see many conservatives avoiding nationalised services like healthcare when they say socialism is a modern evil. Seriously, Its like cutting a fart in a lift, then telling people off when they complain it smells, because "they didn't have to breathe the air"
Jinda89 3 weeks ago
what a div. amazing that this is the kind of intellect that governs.
alexgelister 1 month ago
@TheWilliam306 all you would find is lies and empty promises
WastedSnorlax 2 months ago 2
I WOULD LOVE TO MUNCH ON HER FANNY
TheWilliam306 2 months ago
One could ask Mensch why she was happy to take all that EMI - her first employer - offered, while giving so little in return. EMI's patience eventually ran out and they sacked her for being bone idle.
Ironically, Mensch in Yiddish means "a person of integrity and honor". In this particular case it appears to mean "hypocrite" - an ideal qualification for the world of politics.
teesee03 2 months ago
Who has published her 15 books?
watson2078 2 months ago
'better to get some lobbyists in' Ian Hislop just became my hero! as for her, I'd hate to go to her constituency, must be full of cunts to vote her in!
wooger9375 2 months ago 4
like the video response, I wholeheartedly agree. Even if you want to go with a complete or an almost complete nuclear disarmament, you realize that today you will have to hold on to those nuclear weapons until it's safer to disarm.
xallever 2 months ago
I'm not sure what she was trying to do. I'm assuming she was trying to be funny.
But she just came off as a career politician.
The fact that she used to be a labour politician when blair was in power suggests shes out just to be in the winning team.
Looks like someone bought in to fill the chick quota. Should be ok as long as she gets her tits out or fucks off back to labour with the rest of the brainless career politicians.
skeletorphd 2 months ago
She shouldnt have told her coffee anecdote twice, they charitably let her get away with it the first time...
SIXITHS 2 months ago 4
I'd like to shoot her in the face
pa2pb2 2 months ago
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she made a good point, its clear from the type of insults she's getting such as 'stupid bitch' and 'stuck up bitch' that there is something about an intelligent, well-spoken women that threatens and annoys misogynist men.
MissAintlifeabitch 3 months ago
@MissAintlifeabitch misogynist men? like your beloved david cameron never said anything sexist...ha
lynottlives 3 months ago 2
@MissAintlifeabitch There's a difference between well spoken and well informed.
gmttdan 2 months ago 2
@MissAintlifeabitch she made a terrible point. commodities existed before capitalism and they'll exist after capitalism
afaultytoaster 2 months ago 2
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@YouandOpenFlames. It hardly precludes them from having an opinion but if you are against the wildest excesses of capitalism you probably shouldn't shop at Starbucks.
xkv1922c 3 months ago
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xkv1922c 3 months ago
so does hislop though
xkv1922c 3 months ago
@xkv1922c She doesn't and she didn't.
YouAndOpenFlames 3 months ago
she does have a point
xkv1922c 3 months ago
Perhaps she should of stuck to writing 'chick lit'?
YouAndOpenFlames 3 months ago
Oxford University?
YouAndOpenFlames 3 months ago
Louise is regularly described as 'intelligent' and is very educated. Yet her political views are embarrassingly adolescent.
BlobOfMark 3 months ago
i'd still hit dat with a thousand suns.
vinsong 3 months ago
Paul Merton destroyed her, with humour. Humour is something politicians can't cope with. Also Marx said We will use the tools of capitalism to destroy it. In Mensch's case perhaps water boarding her with coffee?
ludvan67 3 months ago 4
@The91Bassman it sure is
absta100 3 months ago
A less offensive version of Anne Coulter.
WINZ0W 3 months ago
there's something about an english accent that can make a woman sound like a complete bitch.
Ninjaculation 3 months ago 2
Starbucks is shit.
The91Bassman 3 months ago
I want to tie her up and fuck the smugness out of her
slasherzedd 3 months ago
@Ubertroll by who? What a dumb fuck statement. Appropriate user name, you dumb little shit
mmac3434 3 months ago
They're not against capitalism, you fucking hag. Go fuck yourself, you stupid smug bitch.
1337pede 3 months ago
Whereas if a philosophy student on the internet made her points he'd be regarded as intelligent.
UberTroll13 3 months ago
It sounds to me that's she's riled an awful lot of you socialist kids up. She makes a good point. We're seeing protesters holding banners saying "Capitalism is crisis" (if that's not anti-capitalist I don't know what is), yet they're happy to buy from Starbucks and use iPhones. The only hypocrites here are the protesters and you lot for supporting them, plus parties like Labour who cosied up to the banks during their government.
TheInnocentExile 3 months ago
@TheInnocentExile You are forgetting the point - the people who use Capitalism to promote greed and poverty are their targets. Last time I checked you can get coffee and iPhones in China and in Vietnam. Does that make them Capitalist pigs? And last I checked, having a cup of coffee doesnt mean you are hypocrite, it means you are having a cup of coffee, and LAST I checked, Starbucks HAVE been supporting the poor and accepted their practices were kinds crap and they are working to fix it.
Pepingco 3 months ago
@Pepingco First of all, just because you can get certain products in communist countries doesn't mean the products have nothing to do with capitalism. Apple and starbucks are known for selling reasonable quality for ridiculous prices - is that not exploiting consumers (greed)? Instead of getting coffee at the most globalized coffee company in the world, starbucks, why don't they go to a local place to help the local shopkeeper? that's the point the mp wants to make, but she makes it badly.
ikazooka 3 months ago
@TheInnocentExile have a look at the video reply on here too. An ipad is a useful tool in getting the word around about these protests and generally communicating which is essential. If we lived in a world where you could get this things without going through a corporation I'm sure some of them would, but that isn't an option. go and talk to the people there before passing judgement. Yes some there are anti-capitalist but not all! Also see the video reply for more insight into this reasoning
macmindfix 3 months ago
@TheInnocentExile
You can protest against what capitalism brings without protesting about capitalism - that's fairly obvious. The inherent flaws and greed in human beings unfortunately renders the system as we know it as one that ends in the utter polarisation of wealth.
The system isn't worthless, but the market and economy has become so unbelievably monopolised that there now needs to be some way of an increased mediation in the way that the market is run, instead of fairweather governing.
PogoPedro 3 months ago
What an awful, awful person. Louise Mensch personifies everything wrong with smug, out-of-touch, disdainful, wilfully stupid Tories. She makes me angry and sick.
Treesus 3 months ago 3
What else do you expect from the far-left BBC? I like this woman though.
ElseMush 3 months ago
@ElseMush thats because you're a retard
Killerbabyseal 3 months ago
The reason they were using Starbucks was that they let the protesters use the toilets.
swiftxt 3 months ago
@swiftxt Wrong. There are portaloos on site.
bokualec 3 months ago
Some one REALLY needs to post just 1:49 to 1:54 as an individual video. It would be so useful as a forum post response.
Managirl112 4 months ago 2
So glad Ian Hislop destroyed her for her idiocy
larry149 4 months ago 23
(cont) they might have a problem with the amount of money Starbucks has but I'm sure they have no problem with it being distributed world wide as a lot of people like it. It seems as though she has confused capitalism with globalisation
larry149 4 months ago
It's unbelievable how stupid she has made herself sound. The system we are under is capitalism and certain areas of it have gone badly wrong. The protesters are against the negatives and think those areas at the very least need to be adjusted towards the ideas of a more equal system. Her argument suggests that, as she is someone who supports capitalism she should be out celebrating all the people it has kept in poverty.
larry149 4 months ago 2
You can't win against these illogical idiots, you don't use the capitalistic system and your ignored as a hippy, you use it and your ignored as a hypocrite. She's doesn't even know what the protest is about, yet she criticises and she's an MP! frightening!
SocialSC 4 months ago 4
Silly, silly woman.
Slomo25 4 months ago 3
Aaahhh, tories, dumb as a bag of hammers.
Io1564 4 months ago
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I love Ian Hislop 'boom!' moments.
rhyzparson 4 months ago 2
Fuckin' hilarious. Bitch got schooled.
drunkoncustard 4 months ago
I'd hit it.
Rasectos 4 months ago
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a0m0p0Japan 4 months ago
Judging by the amount of sniping comments here, it seems she's touched a nerve. Surely what she meant, quite reasonably in my opinion, is that there is more than a touch of hypocrisy about the protestors. It's not just about a 'cup of coffee' as Paul Merton says, but about claiming to be anti-capitalist, but being quite happy to use all of the system's resources and technology for comfort, instead of being true to your word as best anyone can i.e. saying one thing and doing another.
sabbatini2 4 months ago
@sabbatini2 Did you not watch the video?
anessenator 4 months ago
@sabbatini2 The vast majority of these protesters aren't anti-capitalism, they're anti-greed and anti-inequality.
Capitalism has very little to do with it since it does not necessitate fucking over the majority to achieve its goals, it's just the particular brand of capitalism that we've allowed to take hold in the western world does for the most part.
Capitalism needs to be kept in check to work and it's a lack of checks that have got us in the mess we're in.
waydeewaydee 4 months ago
Silly woman. Probably sucked her way in to her position.
CelticReject 4 months ago 9
The amount of people who use this argument is worrying. I think I will just be linking them to this video in the future.
FKnopsMckim 4 months ago
Wow, and I thought libtards in American were stupid and hypocritical. lol
HYDRAdude 4 months ago
If she loves capitalism so much, she should get a proper job and stop mooching off the government or her husbands. Just proves the adage that there are two types of conservatives, millionaires and suckers. She's a millionaire who takes the people for suckers with her snide remarks.
priorzola 4 months ago 4
I for one fully understand her point..... Starbucks has sent many a shop out of business. In reality almost anything you do is touched by greed, her remark on Iphones is very simple.... Why buy something so expensive and then complain about capitalism....
In general she is right, but these people really do not know what they want..... and its certainly not the full on destruction of capitalist greed...... capitalism and greed go hand in hand....
steelski01 4 months ago
@steelski01 And that's why capitalism requires REGULATION and OVERSIGHT, something her party is failing to do as we speak.
priorzola 4 months ago
@steelski01 Not all occupiers oppose capitalism. It's just the vast majority oppose unregulated corporate domination over the economy.
RenovatedLocksmith 4 months ago 4
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
Well Louise Mensch certainly proves his point.
vikasub 4 months ago 4
She is just unfuckingbelievably stupid.
AbsurdlySane 4 months ago 5
i fuckin hate tories, off to london tommorow to check this out
willbrownrally 4 months ago 4
Louise Mensch is rapidly proving herself to be the most stupid of the 2010 Tory intake.
dtblack123 4 months ago 17
@dtblack123 she's fit though.
FamilyGuyRS 1 month ago
I remember watching this and thinking what a STUPID comment it was. It's about disagreeing with certain elements of a current system and trying to reform and improve it - it doesn't mean you have to completely detatch yourself from everything related to it, that would be pretty much possible.
asulei 4 months ago 9
typical Tory MP who simply doesn't get it.
TheRedNeedle 4 months ago 14
That slag there is a major advert for the big pharma inoculation agenda. Shut up you idiotic bitch: get back under your rock like a good snake!
davaman86 4 months ago 4
haha yes shut up
sozzne 4 months ago 3
I'm totally stunned at how retarded this tory MP is. Wow...
Trialsfan100 4 months ago 82
@Trialsfan100 why, its no shock to me. the bigger shock is how well the BBC covered it on this show.. i mean the main fact it was asked, what are the protesters trying to achieve is a 1st for the bbc so far.
marcarmstrong88 4 months ago
@Trialsfan100 you're stunned at that?
drplbiftin 4 months ago
They turned her into Mensch-meat
PaulMMartinMovies 4 months ago 4
Go on Ian & the lads, destroy that smug, unfunny tory bint . I particularly enjoyed watching the cow squirm this episode:)
activedentalfloss 4 months ago 99