Dave Graham trying Ali Hulk (9a, 5.14d)

[thtsritesun1212]

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[Vertikal1000]

Magnus Midtbø sent this route now in aug 2010, finally with sitstart and extension 9b.

[cekjord]

Hey man! This is a 5.15b! It's one of the hardest routes in the world.

[pppaulo1]

I'd love to see a fat person doing that.

He sets unrealistic body images for rock climbers ;P

[CzarThePlezer]

@pppaulo1 hahahah fatty

[tifa300]

damn i was hopin he would do the middle finger pocket like dani does on dosage 5

[Nicolaskas]

El secarruto no se menea

[ewokscanclimb2]

Just climb and have fun! Stop the bickering of grades and whether it was a route or a problem! hahaha Its something to climb. Just leave it at that. Enjoy climbing...It's F-ing great!

[A2Rclimbing]

the reason for a sit start in a route is just to give it more dificoult. the new grades,over the alpinistic xI was reached including bouldering sections instead classic moves..

if we're all now wondering about how will the 10a should be,the answer is..in my opinion..something like this project.. sit start 8c+ hiball bolulder linked to a 9b/+route(it could be made of several 8c+ section whith no rests). that's the way guys.10a is a 45 meters roof 9a+ route or a flat flat wall whit crazy dynos..

[EinbeinigerLee]

Dani is with him :)

[flagshipzurigo]

I HATE WMG!

[DedyPhlincke]

Fuck the WMG... assholes can't stay out of other peoples business.

[bxrockstar]

its a route, basically there are many high ball problems out there that could very well be protected and could be givin a sport route rating

[konsepti]

II am the master of my own world! <3

[zehi4u]

Is there anyone who can tell me what is the source of this video?

I think It comes from DVD.

[jimbo9203]

there's bits of dave trying ali hulk in Dosage V, but i don't think it's the same footage

[rockvanisher]

ali Hulk is 9B ... that's what i know

[olander0808]

The sit-start extension is, yes. De Pie is "only" 9a.

[732640264]

first he climb boulder 7c 0:14-1:13...i climb this boulder:)

[khnfence]

this is a boulder problem

[beastofackworth]

erm isnt this a boulder problem?

it has a sit start extension,how many routes start from sitting?

[boxsterwelby]

good question. when does a boulder become a route?  Still incredible though.

[laxman9677]

maybe b/c its longer and requires more endurance, whereas bouldering is suppose to be fewer, individually focused moves. also, it might just have seemed more prestigious to call it a sport climb. i was wondering the same thing.

[Hogi1634]

its bouldering...hence the boulder pads and lack of rope. Do u call highball problems routes? no

[fackinjacksack]

Dani says it a route, so it's a fuckin route. leave it alone and be inspired.

[lopside0]

I think these are legitimate questions to ask.

[fackinjacksack]

I just mean that there are no determined lines between bouldering and climbing, and seeing as the guy who put up the route says it's a route, just call it a route and stop arguing.

Kevin Jorgeson would call Ambrosia a boulder problem, despite the that fact it's longer than most indoor gym routes. But we call it a boulder because the founder calls it a boulder.

[rimjabba650]

Dani says fackinjacksack should jump off a bridge, leave it alone and just jump

[SiihNikte]

in which dvd can i find this video?

[Lifesucksdie123]

great fucking song man!

[TatankaIXc]

Ali Hulk is 9b (5.15b)

[enfingret]

with the sit-start

[Kauzman01]

And the extension :-)

[yeshwandas]

music = unnecessary

[doublee10]

why

[iamastomata]

???

[xbelafontex]

cruising that

[iamastomata]

what are the elements that make up the grade of a route??

[doublee10]

google yds

[trueclimber1]

lol. not usually music u put in a climbing video put other than that its a good video

[dennis1802]

U2 i think

[Lifesucksdie123]

who does that song man, who does the song?

[sweatfootm]

'Get What You Give' by The New Radicals

[ermarauder]

band called the new radicals. song is get what u give

[Sharma17]

Awesome!!!! was this the V9 start or is there no protection?

[burton33ti]

It's actually a 30 meter route set by Dani Andrada, it was 25 meter, but he created a new sit start for it by linking a v9 boulder problem to Ali Hulk the 5,15A route making it now a 5.15b

[ClimbaRock5]

Question: If it's a bouldering problem, why is it 5.14d and not V something?

[thefox31]

It's not a bouldering problem. The difference between bouldering and sport climbing isn't what protection you use (you don't switch to a bouldering grade when you free climb or DWS something that is normally roped), but about length. This is, I believe, a 25 metre climb, much longer than any boulder problem. Also, there are bolts later on when the cave gets higher but I don't know if they are part of this route.

[jmorela1]

Actually, the reason that you see differences in grade types is because Americans have a different set of grades for route or boulder problem difficulty. For roped routes we typically use the yosemite decimal system ie 5.11a, 5.13d etc & for bouldering we use the V scale ie V5, V11, V14 etc. It was invented by John Sherman in 1989. Nicknamed Sherman the Vermin, the V scale was originally a joke but caught on. However, in Europe the grading system is the Fountainbleau scale ie 7a, 9a+ etc.

[pdxmirage]

@jmorela1 Actually this is a common misconception. In Europe there are two grading scales as well, they just use the same numbers. The Font scale and the french grade scale are different. The highest you'll find in the font scale is 8c+ which is v16, but you can't say that an 8c+boulder is equal to an 8c+ route, 5.14c, because they are different scales. There are plenty more people climbing 5.14c than there are climbing v16. So these scales are actually different.

[jmorela1]

@pdxmirage-Correction taken. To address the concerns above, if it is a route then the alpha numeric is lower case 9a or 8b+ typically. If it is a Font grade (ie bouldering grade) then often times the alpha numeric is capitalized to indicate that it is a bouldering grade as opposed to a route grade ie 8A or 7b+. Does that sound about right pdxmirage? After all, I only know this for certain, that I will probably never climb hard enough for the difference to be that profound to me. :-)

[pdxmirage]

@jmorela1 That sounds just fantastic. :) Yea, and i'm sure i'll never climb that hard either lol.

[moosmann12020]

good God, his style is completely insane and beautiful all at once.

[enfingret]

does anyone know what the name of the song is??

[coltleader]

The song is "You get what you give" by the New Radicals

[shadowskillet14]

Was he wearing the Evolv Talon's? I thought he was sponsored by 5.10. Anyone know?

[coltleader]

Thoes are 5.10 shoes. They're the v10 model

[shadowskillet14]

Ah, you're right. Thanks, man.

[Eldarondilion]

i'm glad it's insane to climb such roofs...

so i got an good excuse.

good job dave!!!

[peetanui]

He already sent it (june 07). Dani Andrada also sent the sit start extentsion, he gave it 9b/5.15b.

Quote dave graham: "The V14 low start to the Ali-Hulk is something not to fuck with, very hard. It makes that 5.15c at the least, and one might say, damn!

[anarx]

he will do it ... :>

very nice video, ty !

... the es pontas video of sharma is gone :/

[UniSaarland]

I guess he need more bicep for this one :)

[treebierd]

Thanks a lot for posting this vid. I was hoping i could see the beginning for the second 15b.