If a dinosaur fossil is ONLY about 6 thousand years old, and we assume that a human life span is say 70 years (remember people live longer in modern times, longer in wealthier countries, so this number might be high) and 70 X 85 =5950, then that is saying that dinosaurs existed less than 100 human generations ago!!!!
@jfthe3rd Less than that! Remember people lived much longer before the flood that covered the earth. The oldest person recorded in the Bible lived 969 years. Adam lives almost that long.
@VelociRaptor93 Are you a troll or are you fucking stupid? There are too many things wrong with what you just said.
1. A lot of the people protesting are also MODERN Christians.
2. Atheism is not a religion. It's a term for the disbelief in any deities, which is what's needed for a religion. Calling atheism a religion is like calling monotheism and polytheism a religion.
3. Most religious people in the world ARE NOT Christians.
4. You really should find out what Evolution actually is first.
Question: According to these people Earth is only 6,000 years old, a population of 6 billion people started from 2, and dinosaurs and people lived happily together, as for the last point, if dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, why don't I ever see a T-Rex on my lawn??? Wouldn't Noah have had to save two species of every dinosaur before the flood?
@Manatizzle89 I think you have it wrong. The earth may be more than 6000 years old, but not man. Dinosaurs lived before man, and what wiped them out may have been the asteroid that hit the earth a long time before 6000 years ago. No one knows any of this for sure.
Yeah, but in this "museum" they have animatronics of both dinosaurs, and humans living together since according to them the Earth is only 6000 years old. Since they believe that's the case, how can we explain the lack of dinosaurs today?
@Manatizzle89 I don't know, I haven't researched it. I do know that man never saw the sun until after the flood! That's because of the water canopy that covered the earth, and is one reason people lived so long back then - they were more shielded that we are from x-rays and cosmic rays. The reason this has to be true is that the Bible does say that rain never fell back then, but the earth was watered by mists that came up from the ground. Also this is the reason no one saw a rainbow till Noah!
@Manatizzle89 Perhaps, but it totally covered the earth, and no direct sunlight got through - all that got through was diffused light, like on a cloudy day. All the rain that made up the 40 days and 40 nights came from that canopy when it broke, that flooded the earth and set Noah's arc adrift.
@joel10000a WTF? The Egyptians, Babylonians, Chinese had an extensive cultures and written language 5000 years ago. You'd think they'd mention something like this. They were also pretty meticulous about their record keeping. They predate the Genesis stories. Look it up. It is called unbiased research.
@jknengr796 It probably was not a apple, but yes I do! Adam's not stopping her is what ushered in sin AND satan AND demons into the world! Did you know that the Bible actually calls satan "the god of this world"! He is also called the "prince of the powers of the air"!
@jknengr796 Where do you think they got their language from? Do you honestly think they were smart enough to come up with all the written and oral language on their own, without, at the same time having the where-with-all to invent more technical things? I don't think so!!! They got their language, the same way everyone on earth got theirs - at the Tower of Babel! God gave it to them!
a day is but a 1000 years to god,but a creative year of god could be a (time period) of thousands of years,like his fav number was 7(perfect) or 10(completion)who knows ?
I was a chrisiton myself once, but after living few years in a bible belt i became an atheist because most of the fundies like you either have neurological disorders or you just dont know any better. Basically uneducated village idiots. I really dont want to associate myself with this kind of people. I think we just have to round up all the fundies and throw them back to bronze age where they truly belong.
@olegmiron Someday you will totally regret turning your back on Jesus! If you don't come back, you WILL burn forever in hell, and feel all that pain for ETERNITY!
Wake up before it is too late for you! Jesus is coming back to rapture His Church VERY VERY soon!
Message me if you want to know how you can come back to Jesus! He WILL take you back!
@joel10000a Well, I'd like to know why your god will send me to hell for not loving him and yet created me with such an ability? What does this say about his psychological profile?
@bongolongo You have no concept of God and what life is all about. We are all born as the property of satan, because of Adam's original sin in the Garden of Eden! There is ONLY one "get out of hell free card", and that is Jesus, because He is the only one who has paid the price to buy us back from satan! If we do not believe that and accept Jesus and become Born Again, we will simply follow our owner - the devil - right into hell! We PUT OURSELVES THERE! God doesn't want one person going to hell
@joel10000a So you're saying we're the property of Satan despite how God wants us all to be saved...why doesn't he fix it all with a snap of his omnipotent fingers? Is Satan more powerful than God? If God is truly omnipotent, then why this huge detour through the sufferings of Jesus? If God is truly omnipotent, why did he create Adam with an ability to sin, and placed a forbidden tree within his reach? If you could please make perfect sense of this, I'd be grateful.
@bongolongo You are asking the kind of questions that no one knows the answer to. God doesn't reveal everything to us. That's what FAITH is all about - we trust Him that He will NOT lead us astray! We trust the devil that he will always try to deceive us!
@joel10000a Then I'm left to wonder how you can be sure that Jesus and the tales from the Bible were not a ploy set up by the devil? If I were a devil, that's what I'd do -- make people think I was the will and voice of god.
@bongolongo That's where the Holy Spirit comes in - He witnesses to our human spirit that the Word of God (the Bible) is indeed true - cover to cover! No one has the Holy Spirit's guidance unless he first becomes Born Again! AND the Bible says that a person CANNOT will himself to come to God, unless the Holy Spirit first beckons and draws him to Jesus! So NO ONE can get Born Again unless the Holy Spirit first calls or beckons him! You do get the peace that passes all understanding too!!!
@joel10000a I understand that. However, if we are the property of the devil by default, he has a certain power over us at that point -- the Holy Spirit may be a machination of the devil, to make you think you're listening to the word of God. There's no way to be absolutely certain this is not the case. Even Descartes admitted after Cogito Ergo Sum that anything beyond this could well be a ruse devised by demons.
@bongolongo Of course there is, and it's called "PEACE"! The devil cannot give you peace, because he has none to give! He only gives things that are just the opposite of peace - like turmoil, fear, uneasiness, being on edge, paranoid feelings, and etc. The God of the Bible is the only one who can bring TRUE and LASTING peace - even in the midst of total chaos going on all around you! When you get the peace that passes all understanding - that is from God, and NOWHERE else!!!
@bongolongo I am not sure exactly what you are saying, but a truly Born Again Christian is totally and completely forgiven for all his PAST sins, when he becomes Born Again! After becoming truly Born Again, he will begin to change, as God works on him from the inside out, and the old evil desires he had in the past will start to disappear. This happens with varying speed with different people. If a person doesn't change, he WAS NOT truly Born Again!
There is not more evidence for creationism than for evolution. There is ample and not-disproved evidence for evolution, but there is nothing even remotely resembling evidence for creationism. "Prove us wrong, or accept our evidence" I'm sorry, but thats how science works...
As for the 2nd law of thermodynamics, you might note that for it to apply, you need surrounding system with which the closed system is not able to interract. By inserting God into any equation, you put something outside the defined limits of the equation, and therefore it is no-longer valid. I'm sorry, but God is not a defined system, and definitely not subject to the scientific laws of man. I'm sure we agree on this at least :)
In my eyes, God should be a matter of belief, not science.
@tancer87 God created it all so YES he is perfectly capable of moving in and out of our physical universe, from the spirit world, which is the "real" world, because it is eternal! We are, my man, living in the matrix!!! Totally God's imagination!
theory has 2 meanings. in 'science talk' it means something as close as it is possible to get to universal acceptance, without actually being a mathematical LAW.
Well, actually, the 'law of gravity' is only the mathematical description of the force. The 'Theory of Gravity' is the idea that all matter is attracted to each other.
There's also Atomic Theory, Germ Theory, Chemical Theory, and Cell Theory. Would you agree that atoms, germs, chemicals, and cells are just 'theories'?
@FiverBeyond It doesn't matter what you say, it is still the matrix! We are indeed living in the matrix! This universe is not real - just God's creation from his imagination! It's not real because it's not eternal - the unseen spirit world all around us is more real than this physical universe, because it is eternal! We are living in the square root of -1: AN IMAGINARY UNIVERSE!
In science, a theory is not "a wild guess". A scientific theory is a complex explanation of facts that makes testable predictions, is supported by many independent layers of evidence, and that has withstood repeated testing.
Nothing can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, not even physical laws. The reason it's called a scientific theory is because it's an explanation of complex phenomena - an explanation that makes testable predictions, and is supported by many layers of evidence.
@joel10000a "A theory can't be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that's why it's still a theory, and NOT a law!"
Did you graduate from high school? Theories do not become laws. Laws are observations which are always true under a specific set of circumstances, where as theories are explanations made of facts which explain a certain set of observations. For example it is a fact that evolution happens, there are also evolutionary laws, and the theory which explains these facts and observations.
@whitefox998 Where is your proof that evolution happens? If that is the case, then why don't all creatures talk, and communicate with us humans? Doesn't it make sense that if evolution were true, that it would not be a respecter of species, and that all species would have evolved to be able to communicate with all other species? That is totally logical to me. BTW, I am a Chemical Engineer.
@joel10000a Where's the proof for evolution? The fact that both micro- and macroevolution have been directly observed and documented, the pattern of genes, non-coding DNA sequences, atavism & other genetic markers present in lifeforms which construct a twin nested hierarchy only explainable by common descent, the sequence of higher taxonomic groups through out the geologic column indicating an evolutionary pattern, as well as representatives of lower taxa which display transitional characters...
@joel10000a (cont.)...the presence of particular anatomical & molecular vestiges in various lifeforms which support & never contradict evolution(eg humans have the genes for making tails, but not feathers), documentation of defiantly beneficial mutations being selected by the environment and spread through out the population, as well as documentation of increasing complexity in different organs, new features & the genome, both in the lab and in the field. Conclusive enough for you?
@joel10000a As for why don't animals talk. Many do communicate with what we could consider to be definite words and some even have languages to a degree. But I'm curious why do you think that, if evolution were true, all life should be able to communicate?
@gregrutz You won't answer because you know I am right! If evolution was true, then all the animals would be talking just as we do, and could learn our language and we could learn theirs!
@joel10000a Er no, other animals have not evolved verbal language because they haven't needed it to survive. Other species have methods of communication more suited to their own lifestyle eg infra sound, echolocation etc
@Bumblybee256 That makes no sense that only one species needs to verbally communicate and that we can't learn from the other species and they from us, if we could all talk verbally to each other. That's what evolution SHOULD be about if it were real!
@joel10000a Evolution is what it is, not what you think it SHOULD be about, that's just idiotic. Please learn about it before you post your own crackpot theories.
@Bumblybee256 No, you evolutionists make to fit what YOU want it to be! You WILL have to answer to God on judgment day, because the Bible tells us that NO ONE will have an excuse - because it implies that anyone with any brains at all can look at nature and the stars in the sky to realize that all of this didn't just happen but that a creative force was behind it all! Then it goes on to say that all we have to do is to diligently seek God, and He will reveal Himself to us! This is the TRUTH!
@whitefox998 Because that would make sense, right - that we could all talk to each other and learn from each other - that's the only thing that makes any sense to me. All species should be evolving similarly, in this respect, because it is totally logical for more rapid advancement!
@joel10000a Are you being serious? Do you understand how evolution works? Evolution doesn't push organisms towards "advancement" to some final goal. It's about adaptation to changing environmental conditions and this process leads to increased biodiversity. At any rate does the brief examples of evidence for evolution I listed previously satisfy you?
@whitefox998 How do you then explain how evolution dove tails with the 2nd law of thermodynamics? This law says that for anything to bet better in a closed system, work from the outside must be done on it, or it will to to a worse state than the original.
@joel10000a The second law of thermodynamics has NOTHING to do with evolution. Just an example of a Clueless Creationist misusing scientific principles. On the other hand, If I wanted to calculate the calories in a potato chip, design a heat exchanger or figure out how much insulation your home needs, then thermodynamic principles can be used.
@jknengr796 You are the one who is clueless! Explain why the 2nd law of thermodynamics DOESN'T apply, if that's what you think! If you think of the earth or even the universe as a closed system it certainly DOES apply!!!
@joel10000a I'm afraid not. Why don't you take some Calculus, Differential Equations, Partial Differential Equations, Physics I, II, and III. Then take Thermo I, II and Heat Transfer at any accredited university that offers such courses. That would require a creationist do "real work" and get an "edukation". Then, maybe YOU will understand how thermodynamics works instead of repeating garbage from creationist websites.
@jknengr796 Quit making these UNQUALIFIED statements and tell me why the earth cannot be considered a closed system! The ENTIRE UNIVERSE certainly can be!!! BTW I have taken all the courses you mentioned, and I thought I had already told you I am a Chemical Engineer! What is your degree?
@joel10000a It is called the Sun. It add's just a "little bit" of energy to our little system called the Earth? If you had the background in Chemical Engineering that you claim and have taken some of those courses I listed, you would know that. Someone with even the fundamental knowledge of thermodynamics they get in basic Physics would know this.
BTW: B.S. Math/Physics minor-Biology, M.S. Applied Physics, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering minor-Applied Mathematics. You are out of your league.
@jknengr796 What about the entire universe then??? SURELY the entire universe is a closed system! All your knowledge has profited you nothing! You will remain the property of satan forever! You do seem too far gone to me to ever see the light (that's Jesus)! Go watch the video here on YouTube "23 Minutes in Hell" to see what awaits you!
@joel10000a Yes, the universe is a closed system, it's entropy is running down. So what? Life on earth is not a closed system. We get our energy from the sun.
@joel10000a Nope. Our solar system is effected by energy in the form of cosmic rays, neutrino's, x-rays, etc. that originated tens to millions of light years away. For example, the neutrino's emitted from supernova 1987a were detected 3 hours before the visible light reached us. SN 1987A was a supernova in the outskirts of the Tarantula Nebula in the Large Magellanic Cloud, a nearby dwarf galaxy to the Milky Way 168,000 light years away. There are many, many more examples.
@joel10000a What does that have to do with "evolution"? Nothing.
Engineers are are trained as problems solvers, using scientific principles to figure things out to benefit humanity. You definitely missed that part didn't you.
And as far as be seeing the "light" goes, that is your interpretation which involves forcing a warped and ignorant view of science to fit into the Genesis stories, interpreting it as you see fit, and labeling everyone else non christian. It is John 3:16 that matters.
@jknengr796 I am concerned with the infinite more that I am with this finite planet! The infinite is just that - infinity or eternity, whichever you want to call it! You seem to think it doesn't exist when it truly does! Where will you spend eternity? There are only two places according to the Bible! I, for one, sure don't want to end up in the wrong one!
@joel10000a Reptiles are a class of animals not a species. As for thermodynamics, you really should learn about basic physics before trying to use it as an argument against evolution. For one the second law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with getting "better", it's about things becoming more ordered or chaotic. Besides the earth is an open system. And by the way are you really a chemical engineer who has no idea what you are talking about or just trolling?
@whitefox998 I was using "better" to mean more ordered so others could understand more easily! You are so blinded by satan that you can't even see that the synergistic things that go on all around us here on earth couldn't possibly have happened all by themselves! BLIND, BLIND, BLIND! SPIRITUALLY BLIND!
@joel10000a Okay, you are obviously haven't studied science, or failed at it. Theories are tested every day in labs, like the theory of evolution. It's okay if you don't understand how the universe works, other than through the eyes of God. Just don't spread your crap around. Jeez, the semiconductor in your computer is based on quantum mechanics and science.. isn't using it proving science works?
I hope you understood what I put in that reply below, sorry I had to chop it up. What I'm trying to say is that they are pretending to use "scientific evidence".
I know it's twisted, but they actually aren't using science to prove the bible, but the bible to prove their pseudo-science.
The evidence they have that the world is 6000 years old, as I stated in my lower post, is in fact the bible. The bible is always the corroborating piece of evidence.
Omg I just can't even explain how i feel at the moment, but as an Egyptologist and Archaeologist this rly hurts my ears. I am sorry, I do believe in God but this whole new Creation Museum is just a waste of money and time....27 million dollars could have gone to a better cause! I am sure God would have preferred that money invested in helping out the world rather than establishing such a ridiculous museum. I am sure a lot of people won't agree with me and I am sorry but that's how I feel.
No you are the stupid one! This is just another cog in God's gigantic wheel to help bring people to Jesus! Don't you think they sought God's will before starting this project?
What have you accomplished with your line of work? How many people have you brought to Jesus??? If you have never brought anyone to Jesus, then all your works for your entire life are just chaff, which the wind blows away!
This museum full of blatant deceit only takes me away from Jesus.
It would be naive to assume that these museums bring people closer to your concept of God, rather than create further division.
I understand you don't realize how much these people are lying to you using pseudo-science, so I don't blame you. But please believe me when I say that they are lying. I have no vested interest in what path you take in life, only concern for those who are being deceived.
In the video (1:57-2:23) Ken says that they "use scientific evidence.. to help people understand the bible is true."
When the presenter says "instead billions of years old...... a few thousand years" he replies,
"yep, you add up all the dates in the bible.. if you believe in millions of years.. death and disease... millions of years before man.... the BIBLE makes it clear..."
He is not using scientific evidence but the bible.
I agree, the bible does describe this and there is considerable support for an earth that is considerably older.
I have studied earth processes on different continents for years now and the ideas put across in that museum are not honestly concluded from looking at the earth, but reading the bible.
I'm sorry if this is offensive but people who are truely indifferent to how old the Earth is get ages in the billions of years, and creationists with an agenda use misinformation to get 6000 yrs.
The agenda is to shed more light on creationi and to shed more light on evilution. There is actually more proof for creation than evoludtion, but man does not want to be responsible to a creator, so he came up with evolution to sooth his sinful mind!
Your final statement is a very popular meme among Christians, but it is a false dichotomy dependent on religious doctrine.
Please understand that this is what I am trying to warn you about. The only evidence for creation is in the bible and not through scientific investigation.
If there is "more proof for creation" then anything written in Bible is more true than anything observable in the physical world.
Please consider the fallacy in this, as the evidence is provided only in the conclusion
No, all you have to do is to look at DNA to see how much in common it has with computer language. There is no way the DNA PROGRAMMING happened without someone doing the programming! There is absolutely no way that unbelievably complex programming happened on its own! Can't you see that? That's what I mean that we have more proof now than ever, with our advanced knowledge, that something had to create it all. Don't you realize we are indeed living in the Matrix!
CREATION (Genesis) => Meaning of Life, Standards, Marriage, Laws, Absolute Truth, Absolute Logic, Orphanages, Hospitals, Gospel, God's Word
EVOLUTION => Abortion, School Violence, Communism, Humanism, Nazism, Racism, Rejection of Israel as Gods chosen country [since there is no God], Secular Lifestyle, Secular Media, Premarital Sex, Pornography, Homosexual Behavior, Lawlessness, Man's Opinion
What are you talking about, and who is Ken? There is death even before sin. Because of Adam's original sin in the Garden of Eden, the dominion of the earth was turned over to satan, as well as the ownership of the entire human race! We are all born as slaves to and the property of satan. Only Jesus paid the price to set us free from this bondage!
Message me if you want to know how to be set free from the ownership of satan!
Don't you ever wonder why you get so upset over what Christians say? If there is nothing to it, why be concerned about it, because it will just die a natural death, now that we are in the 21st century, right? So why is that? Why do you heathens get so up set with us, and want anything to do with Christianity banned, but are willing to allow Muslims the right to do things you want to deny to Christians?
You are exactly right it is a THEORY AND NOT A LAW! This means it can't be proven!!! If you have ever witnessed a miracle, then there is your proof that God really does exist! If you haven't just go watch the Christian TV Program "The 700 Club", which you can watch on-line at the URL in the description above! You will see miracles on that program from people all over the world every day!!!
What is your point! Evolution is still a theory and NOT a law! It has never been proven, and actually you could say it is sort of a "religion" - although false like all the others. there is only one true explanation of everything, and that is the Bible! Every other explanation is from satan!
Evolution is a THEORY, AND IS NOT A LAW!!! It can't be proven, or it would be a LAW and not a THEORY!
God can be proven, over and over, if you just go watch the 700 Club on TV or the Internet! See the above description for the website. They have people from all over the world who tell miracle stories every day that have happened to them! Start watching it and you will see miracle healings take place every day too!
Who says a theory can never become a law? Every step of man understanding our physical universe, starts with a theory, and then it becomes a law when proven!
No, it starts as a hypothisis which developes into a theory.
Theories-A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Theories are very well proven and are just as apt as scientific laws
That's what the Bible says, not me! It's becoming Born Again, or following your master the devil right into hell. There's only two - God and the devil, all other forms of religion are deceptions from satan to keep people's attention away from the one and only true God of the Bible!
Yea, I'm not really sure the Bible tells you that Merrimac291 is a pet of the Devil :P
Funny though.
And it's not really Joel's place, nor your own to judge people now is it? Certainly divine judgment should be reserved for the divine.
I'm just curious now, just wondering... which of the faiths other than your own are deceptions from Satan. All of them including the majority of other Christian faiths? Since over half of all Christians practice a faith where Genesis is not taken literally.
Well, the Book of John, in the Bible says that Jesus IS the Word of God. That is repeated in the Book of Revelation. So if Jesus is perfect, and He is, then it follows that the Word of God is perfect! Those who do not believe that the Word of God (the Bible) is truly the Word of God, even though they might claim to be Born Again, are NOT going to be admitted into heaven! Mark my words!
I'm just saying you cannot judge others, since you are not the Almighty.
Corinthians 4:1-21
"It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God."
Be careful to not overstep your own religious boundaries O.o
The Word of God judges others. I am just telling people what it says. Many verses are very straight forward and do not leave any room for "interpretation". Others do require it. The Bible tells us that there are hidden mysteries within the Word of God, hidden from unsaved people.
Alright I think I'm understanding what you're saying. So there is room for Interpretation. That I agree with and helps the Word of God. But I guess what I don't understand is how does one know which verses are interpretable and which are not, since the Bible never does and never really should need to say such things. Also, second part is how does one know that Creation doesn't fit as an Interpretable passage? Thanks for helping clear this up for me!
The Bible is supernatural, and spiritual, and is only spiritually discerned. Only Born Again Christians have the Holy Spirit to help them understand the Bible. The human mind cannot understand it. The Bible even says that it is foolishness to people of the world (un-Born Again people). In the Book of John, it says that Jesus IS the Word of God.
So if Jesus is perfect, (and He is), then it follows that the Word of God (the Bible) is also perfect, and unchanging. The Bible also says that Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So it would therefore follow that the Bible is as much for today as it ever was, and will be forever. It's values will never change.
Right, and I'm just wondering why Genesis could not be a passage that may have to be interpreted as you yourself claim some passages do indeed need. ("Many verses are very straight forward and do not leave any room for "interpretation". Others do require it.") I'm just trying to learn how do you know which passages are those that need to be interpreted? (Since the Bible doesn't openly say that for any passage)
I already told you that. The Bible can only be discerned spiritually (by your eternal spirit). BUT only after your eternal spirit has become Born Again, and "turned or switched on" to the things of God. When a person becomes Born Again, the Bible tells us that a supernatural change happens to a person's spirit, where his spirit is actually recreated (thus the term Born Again). Our flesh does not become Born Again, and remains the same.
After becoming Born Again it is a physical effort to make our flesh conform to the Word of God, because it is not changed it still wants to do the things it always did (things of the world, or of the devil). Our spirit must learn to overcome the desires of the flesh - the Bible tells us this. It's a constant battle until the day we die, because the flesh will never want to do the will of God.
Yes. The 700 Club is it's main program, although it does produce others. Watch the 700 Club three times each weekday on ABC Family Channel It comes on at 10:00am, 11:00pm, and 3:00am (same program broadcast 3 different times). They have many more archived clips than I have posted here on their website. See the description above for their website address.
Super museum, it's super great, we'll learn plenty of things in it, I like it, I adore it, it's better than Disneyland, I'm sure God likes it, it's the best museum in the world, everybody must like, it, visit it twice a day.
It IS involved with the Kingdom of God, because that is why I post these video clips from the Christian TV Program "The 700 Club" - to help people find Jesus! No remarks against God or His Kingdom will ever be allowed here, nor will any profanity. I do give people a second chance to post their videos, when they have a worthwhile comment that contains profanity - so they can repost it without the profanity.
When someone becomes truly Born Again, he is instantly a member of the Kingdom of God, and as long as he keeps on believing, he will go right on into eternity remaining in the Kingdom of God.
It's a supernatural transformation, whereby his spirit gets recreated. No one will be allowed into heaven unless he has had his spirit recreated (Born Again). All his past sins are washed away and forgotten, his name is written into the Book of Life, and he is placed on the path to heaven. Message me.
God is real. The WORD of GOD is true. The WORD of GOD shall stand forever. We will all be judged by it. Jesus Christ is coming back we all need to be ready to meet him. Come to Christ Jesus today if you do not know Him as Saviour and Lord. Ye must be born again to see the kingdom of God.
Isn't it amazing that even as all of these people are trying so hard to discredit the truth of God's Word, they are simply proving its content?
Jesus said "Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you" (John 15:20)
For those that believe the truth, remember Matthew 5:11: "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake."
If a dinosaur fossil is ONLY about 6 thousand years old, and we assume that a human life span is say 70 years (remember people live longer in modern times, longer in wealthier countries, so this number might be high) and 70 X 85 =5950, then that is saying that dinosaurs existed less than 100 human generations ago!!!!
jfthe3rd 6 months ago
@jfthe3rd Less than that! Remember people lived much longer before the flood that covered the earth. The oldest person recorded in the Bible lived 969 years. Adam lives almost that long.
joel10000a 5 months ago
The reason Atheist are protesting is simple. IT threatens their religion...IE evolution delusion.
When they stand before GOD and get their sentence...I wonder if they will say "But you dont exist so how can we go to hell"
Blessed be the name of the LORD JESUS.
VelociRaptor93 8 months ago
@VelociRaptor93 Are you a troll or are you fucking stupid? There are too many things wrong with what you just said.
1. A lot of the people protesting are also MODERN Christians.
2. Atheism is not a religion. It's a term for the disbelief in any deities, which is what's needed for a religion. Calling atheism a religion is like calling monotheism and polytheism a religion.
3. Most religious people in the world ARE NOT Christians.
4. You really should find out what Evolution actually is first.
XxI3ioHazardxX 2 weeks ago
This is his argument: The bible is true because the bible says it is.
xpntrvfggd 8 months ago
Excellent video! Ken Ham really presented the Museum well.
elinikk 11 months ago
An institution like this is possible only in the US.
basselyrique 1 year ago
Ken ken ken....atheists are 'scared' of you 'using science' to prove the word of god? Oh ken.
Bumblybee256 1 year ago
Question: According to these people Earth is only 6,000 years old, a population of 6 billion people started from 2, and dinosaurs and people lived happily together, as for the last point, if dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, why don't I ever see a T-Rex on my lawn??? Wouldn't Noah have had to save two species of every dinosaur before the flood?
Manatizzle89 1 year ago
@Manatizzle89 I think you have it wrong. The earth may be more than 6000 years old, but not man. Dinosaurs lived before man, and what wiped them out may have been the asteroid that hit the earth a long time before 6000 years ago. No one knows any of this for sure.
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a
Yeah, but in this "museum" they have animatronics of both dinosaurs, and humans living together since according to them the Earth is only 6000 years old. Since they believe that's the case, how can we explain the lack of dinosaurs today?
Manatizzle89 1 year ago
@Manatizzle89 I don't know, I haven't researched it. I do know that man never saw the sun until after the flood! That's because of the water canopy that covered the earth, and is one reason people lived so long back then - they were more shielded that we are from x-rays and cosmic rays. The reason this has to be true is that the Bible does say that rain never fell back then, but the earth was watered by mists that came up from the ground. Also this is the reason no one saw a rainbow till Noah!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a
"water canopy"...you mean like clouds???
Manatizzle89 1 year ago
@Manatizzle89 Perhaps, but it totally covered the earth, and no direct sunlight got through - all that got through was diffused light, like on a cloudy day. All the rain that made up the 40 days and 40 nights came from that canopy when it broke, that flooded the earth and set Noah's arc adrift.
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a WTF? The Egyptians, Babylonians, Chinese had an extensive cultures and written language 5000 years ago. You'd think they'd mention something like this. They were also pretty meticulous about their record keeping. They predate the Genesis stories. Look it up. It is called unbiased research.
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796 5000 years ago is 1000 years AFTER Adam and Eve!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Their cultures actually predate the Hebrew's "Adam and Eve".
Bye the way, do you think Eve really ate an apple?
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796 It probably was not a apple, but yes I do! Adam's not stopping her is what ushered in sin AND satan AND demons into the world! Did you know that the Bible actually calls satan "the god of this world"! He is also called the "prince of the powers of the air"!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a "It probably was not a apple". Wait, did you turn your brain on? But that is what the Bible says!!! It is infallible and without error!!!
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796 No it doesn't! Go read the Bible! It was the fruit from the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil - NOT a plain apple tree!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@jknengr796 Where do you think they got their language from? Do you honestly think they were smart enough to come up with all the written and oral language on their own, without, at the same time having the where-with-all to invent more technical things? I don't think so!!! They got their language, the same way everyone on earth got theirs - at the Tower of Babel! God gave it to them!
joel10000a 1 year ago
a day is but a 1000 years to god,but a creative year of god could be a (time period) of thousands of years,like his fav number was 7(perfect) or 10(completion)who knows ?
georgeeboy2222 1 year ago
I was a chrisiton myself once, but after living few years in a bible belt i became an atheist because most of the fundies like you either have neurological disorders or you just dont know any better. Basically uneducated village idiots. I really dont want to associate myself with this kind of people. I think we just have to round up all the fundies and throw them back to bronze age where they truly belong.
olegmiron 1 year ago
@olegmiron Someday you will totally regret turning your back on Jesus! If you don't come back, you WILL burn forever in hell, and feel all that pain for ETERNITY!
Wake up before it is too late for you! Jesus is coming back to rapture His Church VERY VERY soon!
Message me if you want to know how you can come back to Jesus! He WILL take you back!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Well, I'd like to know why your god will send me to hell for not loving him and yet created me with such an ability? What does this say about his psychological profile?
bongolongo 1 year ago
@bongolongo You have no concept of God and what life is all about. We are all born as the property of satan, because of Adam's original sin in the Garden of Eden! There is ONLY one "get out of hell free card", and that is Jesus, because He is the only one who has paid the price to buy us back from satan! If we do not believe that and accept Jesus and become Born Again, we will simply follow our owner - the devil - right into hell! We PUT OURSELVES THERE! God doesn't want one person going to hell
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a So you're saying we're the property of Satan despite how God wants us all to be saved...why doesn't he fix it all with a snap of his omnipotent fingers? Is Satan more powerful than God? If God is truly omnipotent, then why this huge detour through the sufferings of Jesus? If God is truly omnipotent, why did he create Adam with an ability to sin, and placed a forbidden tree within his reach? If you could please make perfect sense of this, I'd be grateful.
bongolongo 1 year ago
@bongolongo You are asking the kind of questions that no one knows the answer to. God doesn't reveal everything to us. That's what FAITH is all about - we trust Him that He will NOT lead us astray! We trust the devil that he will always try to deceive us!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Then I'm left to wonder how you can be sure that Jesus and the tales from the Bible were not a ploy set up by the devil? If I were a devil, that's what I'd do -- make people think I was the will and voice of god.
bongolongo 1 year ago
@bongolongo That's where the Holy Spirit comes in - He witnesses to our human spirit that the Word of God (the Bible) is indeed true - cover to cover! No one has the Holy Spirit's guidance unless he first becomes Born Again! AND the Bible says that a person CANNOT will himself to come to God, unless the Holy Spirit first beckons and draws him to Jesus! So NO ONE can get Born Again unless the Holy Spirit first calls or beckons him! You do get the peace that passes all understanding too!!!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a I understand that. However, if we are the property of the devil by default, he has a certain power over us at that point -- the Holy Spirit may be a machination of the devil, to make you think you're listening to the word of God. There's no way to be absolutely certain this is not the case. Even Descartes admitted after Cogito Ergo Sum that anything beyond this could well be a ruse devised by demons.
bongolongo 1 year ago
@bongolongo Of course there is, and it's called "PEACE"! The devil cannot give you peace, because he has none to give! He only gives things that are just the opposite of peace - like turmoil, fear, uneasiness, being on edge, paranoid feelings, and etc. The God of the Bible is the only one who can bring TRUE and LASTING peace - even in the midst of total chaos going on all around you! When you get the peace that passes all understanding - that is from God, and NOWHERE else!!!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a So any believer who has caused grief, prejudice, hate and murder is really a satan worshiper?
bongolongo 1 year ago
@bongolongo I am not sure exactly what you are saying, but a truly Born Again Christian is totally and completely forgiven for all his PAST sins, when he becomes Born Again! After becoming truly Born Again, he will begin to change, as God works on him from the inside out, and the old evil desires he had in the past will start to disappear. This happens with varying speed with different people. If a person doesn't change, he WAS NOT truly Born Again!
joel10000a 1 year ago
There is not more evidence for creationism than for evolution. There is ample and not-disproved evidence for evolution, but there is nothing even remotely resembling evidence for creationism. "Prove us wrong, or accept our evidence" I'm sorry, but thats how science works...
tancer87 2 years ago
@tancer87 There are no hard facts for evolution! Why do you think they still call it the THEORY of evolution. It is NOT called the LAW of evolution!
joel10000a 2 years ago
As for the 2nd law of thermodynamics, you might note that for it to apply, you need surrounding system with which the closed system is not able to interract. By inserting God into any equation, you put something outside the defined limits of the equation, and therefore it is no-longer valid. I'm sorry, but God is not a defined system, and definitely not subject to the scientific laws of man. I'm sure we agree on this at least :)
In my eyes, God should be a matter of belief, not science.
tancer87 2 years ago
@tancer87 God created it all so YES he is perfectly capable of moving in and out of our physical universe, from the spirit world, which is the "real" world, because it is eternal! We are, my man, living in the matrix!!! Totally God's imagination!
joel10000a 2 years ago
@joel10000a
because in science, a theory is as close to accepted truth as you can get. just like the theory of gravity.
mcpencil 1 year ago
@mcpencil No, it's the LAW of gravity, because it's been scientifically proven!
Also no again, a theory is just what the definition says "an unproved assumption or conjecture"
Such is the THEORY of Relativity or
the THEORY of Evolution
A theory is simply unproven observations, about the way things work!
joel10000a 1 year ago
sorry buddy, do a bit more research.
theory has 2 meanings. in 'science talk' it means something as close as it is possible to get to universal acceptance, without actually being a mathematical LAW.
mcpencil 1 year ago
@mcpencil Go look it up! NONE of Webster's definitions say anything about it being "as close as it is possible"
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a
Well, actually, the 'law of gravity' is only the mathematical description of the force. The 'Theory of Gravity' is the idea that all matter is attracted to each other.
There's also Atomic Theory, Germ Theory, Chemical Theory, and Cell Theory. Would you agree that atoms, germs, chemicals, and cells are just 'theories'?
FiverBeyond 1 year ago
@FiverBeyond It doesn't matter what you say, it is still the matrix! We are indeed living in the matrix! This universe is not real - just God's creation from his imagination! It's not real because it's not eternal - the unseen spirit world all around us is more real than this physical universe, because it is eternal! We are living in the square root of -1: AN IMAGINARY UNIVERSE!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a
Good word.... good word...
FiverBeyond 1 year ago
@joel10000a
In science, a theory is not "a wild guess". A scientific theory is a complex explanation of facts that makes testable predictions, is supported by many independent layers of evidence, and that has withstood repeated testing.
robocong7420 1 year ago
@robocong7420 A theory can't be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that's why it's still a theory, and NOT a law!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a
Nothing can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, not even physical laws. The reason it's called a scientific theory is because it's an explanation of complex phenomena - an explanation that makes testable predictions, and is supported by many layers of evidence.
robocong7420 1 year ago
@robocong7420 Show me anywhere that your definition exists!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a "A theory can't be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that's why it's still a theory, and NOT a law!"
Did you graduate from high school? Theories do not become laws. Laws are observations which are always true under a specific set of circumstances, where as theories are explanations made of facts which explain a certain set of observations. For example it is a fact that evolution happens, there are also evolutionary laws, and the theory which explains these facts and observations.
whitefox998 1 year ago
@whitefox998 Where is your proof that evolution happens? If that is the case, then why don't all creatures talk, and communicate with us humans? Doesn't it make sense that if evolution were true, that it would not be a respecter of species, and that all species would have evolved to be able to communicate with all other species? That is totally logical to me. BTW, I am a Chemical Engineer.
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Where's the proof for evolution? The fact that both micro- and macroevolution have been directly observed and documented, the pattern of genes, non-coding DNA sequences, atavism & other genetic markers present in lifeforms which construct a twin nested hierarchy only explainable by common descent, the sequence of higher taxonomic groups through out the geologic column indicating an evolutionary pattern, as well as representatives of lower taxa which display transitional characters...
whitefox998 1 year ago
@whitefox998 How come then ALL species don't evolve? Some haven't changed at all over the ages.
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a They have. 99% of all species are now gone, either due to extinction or anagenesic speciation.
whitefox998 1 year ago
@whitefox998 Not reptiles, which are said to be millions of years old.
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a (cont.)...the presence of particular anatomical & molecular vestiges in various lifeforms which support & never contradict evolution(eg humans have the genes for making tails, but not feathers), documentation of defiantly beneficial mutations being selected by the environment and spread through out the population, as well as documentation of increasing complexity in different organs, new features & the genome, both in the lab and in the field. Conclusive enough for you?
whitefox998 1 year ago
@joel10000a As for why don't animals talk. Many do communicate with what we could consider to be definite words and some even have languages to a degree. But I'm curious why do you think that, if evolution were true, all life should be able to communicate?
whitefox998 1 year ago
@whitefox998 That's not what I am asking, I am asking why don't they communicate and talk with us, just like in the bar in Star Wars?
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a I am asking why don't they communicate and talk with us''
My dog licks me when it wants a treat.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz You won't answer because you know I am right! If evolution was true, then all the animals would be talking just as we do, and could learn our language and we could learn theirs!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Er no, other animals have not evolved verbal language because they haven't needed it to survive. Other species have methods of communication more suited to their own lifestyle eg infra sound, echolocation etc
You don't know what evo is.
Bumblybee256 1 year ago
@Bumblybee256 That makes no sense that only one species needs to verbally communicate and that we can't learn from the other species and they from us, if we could all talk verbally to each other. That's what evolution SHOULD be about if it were real!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Evolution is what it is, not what you think it SHOULD be about, that's just idiotic. Please learn about it before you post your own crackpot theories.
Bumblybee256 1 year ago
@Bumblybee256 No, you evolutionists make to fit what YOU want it to be! You WILL have to answer to God on judgment day, because the Bible tells us that NO ONE will have an excuse - because it implies that anyone with any brains at all can look at nature and the stars in the sky to realize that all of this didn't just happen but that a creative force was behind it all! Then it goes on to say that all we have to do is to diligently seek God, and He will reveal Himself to us! This is the TRUTH!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a
Cool story, bro.
jmlew 1 year ago
@joel10000a Well said Joel. Well said
VelociRaptor93 8 months ago
@whitefox998 Because that would make sense, right - that we could all talk to each other and learn from each other - that's the only thing that makes any sense to me. All species should be evolving similarly, in this respect, because it is totally logical for more rapid advancement!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Are you being serious? Do you understand how evolution works? Evolution doesn't push organisms towards "advancement" to some final goal. It's about adaptation to changing environmental conditions and this process leads to increased biodiversity. At any rate does the brief examples of evidence for evolution I listed previously satisfy you?
whitefox998 1 year ago
@whitefox998 How do you then explain how evolution dove tails with the 2nd law of thermodynamics? This law says that for anything to bet better in a closed system, work from the outside must be done on it, or it will to to a worse state than the original.
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a The second law of thermodynamics has NOTHING to do with evolution. Just an example of a Clueless Creationist misusing scientific principles. On the other hand, If I wanted to calculate the calories in a potato chip, design a heat exchanger or figure out how much insulation your home needs, then thermodynamic principles can be used.
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796 You are the one who is clueless! Explain why the 2nd law of thermodynamics DOESN'T apply, if that's what you think! If you think of the earth or even the universe as a closed system it certainly DOES apply!!!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a I'm afraid not. Why don't you take some Calculus, Differential Equations, Partial Differential Equations, Physics I, II, and III. Then take Thermo I, II and Heat Transfer at any accredited university that offers such courses. That would require a creationist do "real work" and get an "edukation". Then, maybe YOU will understand how thermodynamics works instead of repeating garbage from creationist websites.
The earth ISN'T a closed system by the way...
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796 Quit making these UNQUALIFIED statements and tell me why the earth cannot be considered a closed system! The ENTIRE UNIVERSE certainly can be!!! BTW I have taken all the courses you mentioned, and I thought I had already told you I am a Chemical Engineer! What is your degree?
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a It is called the Sun. It add's just a "little bit" of energy to our little system called the Earth? If you had the background in Chemical Engineering that you claim and have taken some of those courses I listed, you would know that. Someone with even the fundamental knowledge of thermodynamics they get in basic Physics would know this.
BTW: B.S. Math/Physics minor-Biology, M.S. Applied Physics, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering minor-Applied Mathematics. You are out of your league.
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796 What about the entire universe then??? SURELY the entire universe is a closed system! All your knowledge has profited you nothing! You will remain the property of satan forever! You do seem too far gone to me to ever see the light (that's Jesus)! Go watch the video here on YouTube "23 Minutes in Hell" to see what awaits you!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Yes, the universe is a closed system, it's entropy is running down. So what? Life on earth is not a closed system. We get our energy from the sun.
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Well then take the solar system as a closed system. What about that?
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Nope. Our solar system is effected by energy in the form of cosmic rays, neutrino's, x-rays, etc. that originated tens to millions of light years away. For example, the neutrino's emitted from supernova 1987a were detected 3 hours before the visible light reached us. SN 1987A was a supernova in the outskirts of the Tarantula Nebula in the Large Magellanic Cloud, a nearby dwarf galaxy to the Milky Way 168,000 light years away. There are many, many more examples.
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796 Well then we will just progress to the universe then! What about that? That's SURELY a closed system, as far as we know!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a What does that have to do with "evolution"? Nothing.
Engineers are are trained as problems solvers, using scientific principles to figure things out to benefit humanity. You definitely missed that part didn't you.
And as far as be seeing the "light" goes, that is your interpretation which involves forcing a warped and ignorant view of science to fit into the Genesis stories, interpreting it as you see fit, and labeling everyone else non christian. It is John 3:16 that matters.
jknengr796 1 year ago
@jknengr796 I am concerned with the infinite more that I am with this finite planet! The infinite is just that - infinity or eternity, whichever you want to call it! You seem to think it doesn't exist when it truly does! Where will you spend eternity? There are only two places according to the Bible! I, for one, sure don't want to end up in the wrong one!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Explain why the 2nd law of thermodynamics DOESN'T apply''
Because it only works in a closed system, so first you must define your system.
The universe, yes it is running down.
Your body, yes. Lock yourself in a room for a week and you run down and die.
Life on earth. No, open system, we get our energy from the sun.
Understand now?
gregrutz 1 year ago
@gregrutz Ok, then solar system!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Reptiles are a class of animals not a species. As for thermodynamics, you really should learn about basic physics before trying to use it as an argument against evolution. For one the second law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with getting "better", it's about things becoming more ordered or chaotic. Besides the earth is an open system. And by the way are you really a chemical engineer who has no idea what you are talking about or just trolling?
whitefox998 1 year ago
@whitefox998 I was using "better" to mean more ordered so others could understand more easily! You are so blinded by satan that you can't even see that the synergistic things that go on all around us here on earth couldn't possibly have happened all by themselves! BLIND, BLIND, BLIND! SPIRITUALLY BLIND!
joel10000a 1 year ago
@joel10000a Okay, you are obviously haven't studied science, or failed at it. Theories are tested every day in labs, like the theory of evolution. It's okay if you don't understand how the universe works, other than through the eyes of God. Just don't spread your crap around. Jeez, the semiconductor in your computer is based on quantum mechanics and science.. isn't using it proving science works?
helscreamer 1 year ago
@helscreamer You talk about it like it WAS a law, which it is not! Why is it not a law, then rather than a theory?
joel10000a 1 year ago
why do the pathetic atheists need to protest?
mathewjohn5174 2 years ago
joel100000a,
I hope you understood what I put in that reply below, sorry I had to chop it up. What I'm trying to say is that they are pretending to use "scientific evidence".
I know it's twisted, but they actually aren't using science to prove the bible, but the bible to prove their pseudo-science.
The evidence they have that the world is 6000 years old, as I stated in my lower post, is in fact the bible. The bible is always the corroborating piece of evidence.
jmui011 2 years ago
Omg I just can't even explain how i feel at the moment, but as an Egyptologist and Archaeologist this rly hurts my ears. I am sorry, I do believe in God but this whole new Creation Museum is just a waste of money and time....27 million dollars could have gone to a better cause! I am sure God would have preferred that money invested in helping out the world rather than establishing such a ridiculous museum. I am sure a lot of people won't agree with me and I am sorry but that's how I feel.
Marinete87 2 years ago
No you are the stupid one! This is just another cog in God's gigantic wheel to help bring people to Jesus! Don't you think they sought God's will before starting this project?
joel10000a 2 years ago
What have you accomplished with your line of work? How many people have you brought to Jesus??? If you have never brought anyone to Jesus, then all your works for your entire life are just chaff, which the wind blows away!
joel10000a 2 years ago
This museum full of blatant deceit only takes me away from Jesus.
It would be naive to assume that these museums bring people closer to your concept of God, rather than create further division.
I understand you don't realize how much these people are lying to you using pseudo-science, so I don't blame you. But please believe me when I say that they are lying. I have no vested interest in what path you take in life, only concern for those who are being deceived.
jmui011 2 years ago
You haven't given any examples of what you are talking about! You can't make blanket statements without telling what you are talking about!!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Ok, but I'll chop up quotes to fit it in a post:
In the video (1:57-2:23) Ken says that they "use scientific evidence.. to help people understand the bible is true."
When the presenter says "instead billions of years old...... a few thousand years" he replies,
"yep, you add up all the dates in the bible.. if you believe in millions of years.. death and disease... millions of years before man.... the BIBLE makes it clear..."
He is not using scientific evidence but the bible.
jmui011 2 years ago
The Bible does give the history of man to be around 6000 years. The earth may indeed be older.
joel10000a 2 years ago
I agree, the bible does describe this and there is considerable support for an earth that is considerably older.
I have studied earth processes on different continents for years now and the ideas put across in that museum are not honestly concluded from looking at the earth, but reading the bible.
I'm sorry if this is offensive but people who are truely indifferent to how old the Earth is get ages in the billions of years, and creationists with an agenda use misinformation to get 6000 yrs.
jmui011 2 years ago
The agenda is to shed more light on creationi and to shed more light on evilution. There is actually more proof for creation than evoludtion, but man does not want to be responsible to a creator, so he came up with evolution to sooth his sinful mind!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Your final statement is a very popular meme among Christians, but it is a false dichotomy dependent on religious doctrine.
Please understand that this is what I am trying to warn you about. The only evidence for creation is in the bible and not through scientific investigation.
If there is "more proof for creation" then anything written in Bible is more true than anything observable in the physical world.
Please consider the fallacy in this, as the evidence is provided only in the conclusion
jmui011 2 years ago
No, all you have to do is to look at DNA to see how much in common it has with computer language. There is no way the DNA PROGRAMMING happened without someone doing the programming! There is absolutely no way that unbelievably complex programming happened on its own! Can't you see that? That's what I mean that we have more proof now than ever, with our advanced knowledge, that something had to create it all. Don't you realize we are indeed living in the Matrix!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Different education:
CREATION (Genesis) => Meaning of Life, Standards, Marriage, Laws, Absolute Truth, Absolute Logic, Orphanages, Hospitals, Gospel, God's Word
EVOLUTION => Abortion, School Violence, Communism, Humanism, Nazism, Racism, Rejection of Israel as Gods chosen country [since there is no God], Secular Lifestyle, Secular Media, Premarital Sex, Pornography, Homosexual Behavior, Lawlessness, Man's Opinion
Eye2EyeIIIV 2 years ago
Super comparison!!!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Sad that they call it a Museum.
It is a church, he is preaching.
gregrutz 2 years ago
DUH, that's what it's there for - to support CREATION!!!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Truth is most animals that ever lived on earth are extinct, including dinosaurs.
gregrutz 2 years ago
So what?
joel10000a 2 years ago
Ken says there was no death till sin.
gregrutz 2 years ago
What are you talking about, and who is Ken? There is death even before sin. Because of Adam's original sin in the Garden of Eden, the dominion of the earth was turned over to satan, as well as the ownership of the entire human race! We are all born as slaves to and the property of satan. Only Jesus paid the price to set us free from this bondage!
Message me if you want to know how to be set free from the ownership of satan!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Who is Ken Ham? Don't you watch your own videos? He is the idiot who started the creation museum. He is the lier who says science supports the bible.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Well, you are the unscientific one, for not being specific, as scientists are supposed to be!! I say that because you say you are a Chemist.
joel10000a 2 years ago
I can be specific.
The earth is 4,566 million years old, +or- 2 million years
gregrutz 2 years ago
So, what if it is? That doesn't prove Adam & Eve weren't created around 6000 years ago, and that man began with them.
joel10000a 2 years ago
Don't you ever wonder why you get so upset over what Christians say? If there is nothing to it, why be concerned about it, because it will just die a natural death, now that we are in the 21st century, right? So why is that? Why do you heathens get so up set with us, and want anything to do with Christianity banned, but are willing to allow Muslims the right to do things you want to deny to Christians?
joel10000a 2 years ago
Different education:
CREATION (Genesis) => Meaning of Life, Standards, Marriage, Laws, the Gospel, God's Word
EVOLUTION => Abortion, School Violence, Communism, Humanism, Nazism, Racism, Secular Lifestyle, Secular Media, Premarital Sex, Pornography, Homosexual Behavior, Lawlessness, Man's Opinion
Eye2EyeIIIV 2 years ago
In other words, EVOLUTION = THE DEVIL MANIFESTED!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Amen 2 that, joel10000a!!!!
PS: Evolution = flawed logic built up over time; Satanic indoctrination
IWBR2 2 years ago
Also:
Evolution = Man's mental process for not having to be responsible to a creator - the One and Only God of the universe!
joel10000a 2 years ago
What does human history [evolution] have to do with any of the shit you listed?
Creation=bible story, no science
Evolution happened, there is a theory to explain how it happened.
gregrutz 2 years ago
You are exactly right it is a THEORY AND NOT A LAW! This means it can't be proven!!! If you have ever witnessed a miracle, then there is your proof that God really does exist! If you haven't just go watch the Christian TV Program "The 700 Club", which you can watch on-line at the URL in the description above! You will see miracles on that program from people all over the world every day!!!
joel10000a 2 years ago
No, I have never seen a miracle. If you can document one, you could be the first person in the world to prove God, good luck.
A Theory is a relationship of many facts.
The theory of evolution will stand until proven wrong, good luck again.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Well, so, then, also shall God stand!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Evolution does not say anything about God, they are compatible.
70% of scientist accept God, all of them accept evolution.
gregrutz 2 years ago
What is your point! Evolution is still a theory and NOT a law! It has never been proven, and actually you could say it is sort of a "religion" - although false like all the others. there is only one true explanation of everything, and that is the Bible! Every other explanation is from satan!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Evolution has been proven, sorry.
The bible say we are in the center of the solar system, do you still believe that?
Is the earth a circle or a sphear?
gregrutz 2 years ago
Evolution has not been proven in man, where's the missing link?
joel10000a 2 years ago
See the box next to the word SEARCH
Try typing missing link in it.
You might learn something.
gregrutz 2 years ago
No, you are the smart heathen, you tell me!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Creation=bible story
Evolution=Science fact
gregrutz 2 years ago
Evolution is a THEORY, AND IS NOT A LAW!!! It can't be proven, or it would be a LAW and not a THEORY!
God can be proven, over and over, if you just go watch the 700 Club on TV or the Internet! See the above description for the website. They have people from all over the world who tell miracle stories every day that have happened to them! Start watching it and you will see miracle healings take place every day too!
joel10000a 2 years ago
A theory can never become a law.
It is a relationship of facts.
God has never been proven
Miracles have never been proven.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Who says a theory can never become a law? Every step of man understanding our physical universe, starts with a theory, and then it becomes a law when proven!
joel10000a 2 years ago
No, it starts as a hypothisis which developes into a theory.
Theories-A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. Theories are very well proven and are just as apt as scientific laws
gregrutz 2 years ago
Then why aren't they advanced to the category of laws, when they become, so called, proven?
joel10000a 2 years ago
Amen 2 that, saynotodarwin!!!
Eye2EyeIIIV 2 years ago
These people can't seriously believe this stuff. It has to be a joke, right? Scientific claims in the bible? Nobody is this willfully blind.
kashphlinktu 2 years ago
Did Jesus have a pet dinosaur?
merrimac291 2 years ago
No, but the devil has a pet - merrimac291!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Wow, that comment isn't insensitive at all...
How odd for someone like Joel to claim anyone who thinks differently of them is a lesser being, one of pure evil.
BrellK 2 years ago
That's what the Bible says, not me! It's becoming Born Again, or following your master the devil right into hell. There's only two - God and the devil, all other forms of religion are deceptions from satan to keep people's attention away from the one and only true God of the Bible!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Yea, I'm not really sure the Bible tells you that Merrimac291 is a pet of the Devil :P
Funny though.
And it's not really Joel's place, nor your own to judge people now is it? Certainly divine judgment should be reserved for the divine.
I'm just curious now, just wondering... which of the faiths other than your own are deceptions from Satan. All of them including the majority of other Christian faiths? Since over half of all Christians practice a faith where Genesis is not taken literally.
BrellK 2 years ago
Well, the Book of John, in the Bible says that Jesus IS the Word of God. That is repeated in the Book of Revelation. So if Jesus is perfect, and He is, then it follows that the Word of God is perfect! Those who do not believe that the Word of God (the Bible) is truly the Word of God, even though they might claim to be Born Again, are NOT going to be admitted into heaven! Mark my words!
joel10000a 2 years ago
I'm just saying you cannot judge others, since you are not the Almighty.
Corinthians 4:1-21
"It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God."
Be careful to not overstep your own religious boundaries O.o
BrellK 2 years ago
The Word of God judges others. I am just telling people what it says. Many verses are very straight forward and do not leave any room for "interpretation". Others do require it. The Bible tells us that there are hidden mysteries within the Word of God, hidden from unsaved people.
joel10000a 2 years ago
Alright I think I'm understanding what you're saying. So there is room for Interpretation. That I agree with and helps the Word of God. But I guess what I don't understand is how does one know which verses are interpretable and which are not, since the Bible never does and never really should need to say such things. Also, second part is how does one know that Creation doesn't fit as an Interpretable passage? Thanks for helping clear this up for me!
BrellK 2 years ago
The Bible is supernatural, and spiritual, and is only spiritually discerned. Only Born Again Christians have the Holy Spirit to help them understand the Bible. The human mind cannot understand it. The Bible even says that it is foolishness to people of the world (un-Born Again people). In the Book of John, it says that Jesus IS the Word of God.
joel10000a 2 years ago
So if Jesus is perfect, (and He is), then it follows that the Word of God (the Bible) is also perfect, and unchanging. The Bible also says that Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So it would therefore follow that the Bible is as much for today as it ever was, and will be forever. It's values will never change.
joel10000a 2 years ago
Right, and I'm just wondering why Genesis could not be a passage that may have to be interpreted as you yourself claim some passages do indeed need. ("Many verses are very straight forward and do not leave any room for "interpretation". Others do require it.") I'm just trying to learn how do you know which passages are those that need to be interpreted? (Since the Bible doesn't openly say that for any passage)
BrellK 2 years ago
I already told you that. The Bible can only be discerned spiritually (by your eternal spirit). BUT only after your eternal spirit has become Born Again, and "turned or switched on" to the things of God. When a person becomes Born Again, the Bible tells us that a supernatural change happens to a person's spirit, where his spirit is actually recreated (thus the term Born Again). Our flesh does not become Born Again, and remains the same.
joel10000a 2 years ago
After becoming Born Again it is a physical effort to make our flesh conform to the Word of God, because it is not changed it still wants to do the things it always did (things of the world, or of the devil). Our spirit must learn to overcome the desires of the flesh - the Bible tells us this. It's a constant battle until the day we die, because the flesh will never want to do the will of God.
joel10000a 2 years ago
Ah alright. I see what you're talking about. Thanks.
BrellK 2 years ago
Message me if you indeed do want to know what becoming Born Again is all about, in detail.
joel10000a 2 years ago
Is CBN a christian channel?
Freeze01 2 years ago
Yes. The 700 Club is it's main program, although it does produce others. Watch the 700 Club three times each weekday on ABC Family Channel It comes on at 10:00am, 11:00pm, and 3:00am (same program broadcast 3 different times). They have many more archived clips than I have posted here on their website. See the description above for their website address.
joel10000a 2 years ago
I'm bound to be about as heaven bound as you are.
About as "bound" as someone could be to a place that exists in wishful thinking.
cobrompton 3 years ago
Well, we will both find out who is right, someday, right! If I am right, you are in big trouble - and for eternity!
joel10000a 3 years ago
Ha! I'm willing to take those odds.
LOL
cobrompton 2 years ago
I won't call you what the Bible would call you!
joel10000a 2 years ago
Ouch!
cobrompton 2 years ago
Super museum, it's super great, we'll learn plenty of things in it, I like it, I adore it, it's better than Disneyland, I'm sure God likes it, it's the best museum in the world, everybody must like, it, visit it twice a day.
hunchbacked 3 years ago
Thank God for the Creation Museum it is a blessing.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:1
lovejoypeace7777 3 years ago
Amen. Thank God for this museum.
1wingsolja 3 years ago
dinasours on the ark TOO COOL !!!
ufgdkjsksfftfgzgufgu 3 years ago
Great man and Great museum
ufgdkjsksfftfgzgufgu 3 years ago
Comments must be approved in order to be published?
BohemianBlasphemy 3 years ago
You better believe it! The Kingdom of God is just that - a KINGDOM and NOT a democracy!!!
joel10000a 3 years ago
If you don't like that, take your bitter remarks and comments to other Groups!!!
joel10000a 3 years ago
It was a question, nothing more. Also, this isn't the kingdom of god, it is a comment box on a website.
BohemianBlasphemy 3 years ago
It IS involved with the Kingdom of God, because that is why I post these video clips from the Christian TV Program "The 700 Club" - to help people find Jesus! No remarks against God or His Kingdom will ever be allowed here, nor will any profanity. I do give people a second chance to post their videos, when they have a worthwhile comment that contains profanity - so they can repost it without the profanity.
joel10000a 3 years ago
People are also welcome to message me if they have questions about God's Kingdom, controversial or not.
joel10000a 3 years ago
I will use no profanity, but I do question your authority on the matter of this so called "kingdom of god".
Anyway, why don't you try to convince me? Present your case.
BohemianBlasphemy 3 years ago
When someone becomes truly Born Again, he is instantly a member of the Kingdom of God, and as long as he keeps on believing, he will go right on into eternity remaining in the Kingdom of God.
It's a supernatural transformation, whereby his spirit gets recreated. No one will be allowed into heaven unless he has had his spirit recreated (Born Again). All his past sins are washed away and forgotten, his name is written into the Book of Life, and he is placed on the path to heaven. Message me.
joel10000a 3 years ago
God is real. The WORD of GOD is true. The WORD of GOD shall stand forever. We will all be judged by it. Jesus Christ is coming back we all need to be ready to meet him. Come to Christ Jesus today if you do not know Him as Saviour and Lord. Ye must be born again to see the kingdom of God.
lovejoypeace7777 3 years ago
Isn't it amazing that even as all of these people are trying so hard to discredit the truth of God's Word, they are simply proving its content?
Jesus said "Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you" (John 15:20)
For those that believe the truth, remember Matthew 5:11: "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake."
madadivad1986 3 years ago