Wrestling Roundtable 7/25/10 Part 1 - The Attitude Era

[MTowersX]

i remember the sable moment, i was 6 years old. The greatest match of the Attitude Era was TLC Wrestlemania 17 because it left a legacy for the 'PG' Era.

[wweallday24]

eric what did u think of kat in armageddon 1999

[PeoplesWar]

This video is very nearly a sociological discussion. This is awesome.

[MrSchultzstaffel]

The Attitude Era was needed in order to form an effective competition to counter Monday Nitro because Vince had his back to the wall and he needed to attract as many fans to his show as possible. The adult-oriented, attitude era attracted legions of fans and burried WCW once and for all. If people want the "Doink the Clown" and "Repo-man" era to come back then you all need to get together for a group "thunb suck" because that's baby shit. WWE is going back into the toilet because it's for babies

[skinwalkerxxx]

the thing is with the Attitude Era, sure there was a lot of talking and skits but I never remember being aware of it? I think it shows that when something is good it works whatever the case. maybe it's just that these days the talking and storylines just sucks.

[therock19]

Im sorry but the attitude era was the best time to be a wrestling fan. Not having a go but you had everything yh some of it was discusting like may young giving birth to a hand etc but it was still entertaining and thats what people love been entertained. WWE now is just awfull i cant even watch it anymore.

[MrSchultzstaffel]

@therock19 A-men to that brother!The attitude era was absolutely the best!Even gay wrestlers like Shawn Micheals were cool because they got away from those baby-shit gimicks and stupid-ass'ed, baby story-lines and actually started to act like adults.The women saved the WWF's ass with their erotic wrestling when the WWF was up against NITRO and Vince shit on em' the first chance he got so he could take the whole business back to the God-damn Doink the Clown and Repo-Man days! What baby bullshit

[mistanderson]

I think thats why they created SmackDown because smackdown focused more on the wrestling matches than Raw. Raw was more to the entertainment still to this day. 20 min promo, 3-5 min matches.

[rgreenberg35]

Ruthless Aggression was better

[lettersfromaboy]

@rgreenberg35 RIP to that era. 2002-2005

[ruthlessmadman]

There was a lot of good and bad about the Attitude Era. But the one thing that bothered me then and now about the era was overbooking. Practically every match had run-ins, most matches had to have violence or some crazy stipulation, almost every wrestler was feuding with multiple people and everyone was involved in some complicated storyline. Things weren't simple back then.

[MrDWwill]

I loved the Attitude Era. I used to say it was not as good as the 80's wrestling, but years later, I have to say that I love the Attitude Era a whole lot more. As Vince said himself, they were not doing anything different from what everyone else on TV was doing. This was just a sign of the times.

[reefinit]

batten down the hatches excellant show eric thanks for these

[eddieseven]

It would of been nice to see Sting jump ship during this time and see Sting vs (Stone Cold or Rock or Undertaker)

[Gamebox27]

The attitude era's biggest feature I think was a break in kayfabe. The internet made the wrestlers more real because we knew more about them (they weren't mysterious, larger-than-life characters). There was a real, spontaneous feel to the era, but other than more swearing and overt sexuality, the characters were mostly rehashed from older wrestling prototypes. Val Venis was Rick Rude, Austin was Piper, Goldust was Adonis, Rock was Hogan, and Taker was in both eras.

[Gamebox27]

@Gamebox27 Also if Dr. D didn't get in trouble with his 20/20 seg, he would have been even more of an Austin type character than Piper. Wrestlers have always been fringe characters who offend and shock, especially heels. It's been the name of the game for decades. The attitude era wasn't all it was cracked up to be in breaking barriers. Just superficial ones of a laxed censor system of the late 90s.

[LilC2012]

I know this is old but I have a question for the roundtable.

Do you think that Jeff hardys new caricature is like the new next big thing like Austin and Rock and ect...

[JMBitchboy]

I agree with Eric when he said the Attitude Era was when wrestling became stupid although this was my favorite era in wrestling like most fans. It was so bad yet so good. I just wish they found a middle ground where they could cater to adults without being too outlandish. We saw the rise of some of the biggest names and a lot of amazing stable wars and the most compelling storylines that we would've been better off with dumb skits like GTV, Mae Young's birth to a hand or Sunny fucking Elmo.

[erics2056]

watching this made me remember how great it was to be 10 years old during the attitude era. also, what about mae young giving birth to a hand or big show casket surfing in the cementary?

[antsman88]

I swear if i ever become a professional wrestler i'm gonna campaign to have the wrestling roundtable theme as my entrance music!

[T2DIDDY]

As If You Lot had such a bug up ur asse about the attitude era when u was young and watchin it....looking back on it mayb u can think hey yeah maybe sables tits on show in front of a load of kids is uncomfortable or immoral or whatever but at the time i'll bet u didnt over analyze it!!what the guy who made the last comment is gettin at is...u are makin it sound like at the time of the attitude era u was as smart to the business as u r now, which i highly doubt!!im 24 been watchin since 1990!!

[WrestlingRoundtable]

@T2DIDDY First of all asshole, we're analyzing it, not over-analyzing it. Second, I can't speak for anyone but me, but those are all the feelings & thoughts I had at the time, so just because you didn't fuckin 'get' what was happening in front of your face at the time doesn't make me as stupid as you. Go post somewhere else where maybe they'll tolerate being told how they were 10 years ago by someone on the fucking internet they don't even know. Jerk off.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[JMBitchboy]

@WrestlingRoundtable Thanks for the updates. I'll purchase a new shirt as soon as I get paid.

[ptowncandyman]

@T2DIDDY its called throwing shi to the wall and see what sticks! What can you get away with. Push the envlope!

[TehKarmaPolice]

I now realize that I was lucky being a teenager during the attitude era. I don't think that I would had enjoyed it in my 20's or older. I mean, when I was 15 you couldn't convince me that Billy Gunn wasn't the shit.

[jimmyjihad420]

@TehKarmaPolice

I love to love 'em

I love to kick 'em

I love to shove 'em

I love to stick 'em

Love to flaunt 'em

I love to watch 'em

I love to pick 'em

And I'm gonna kick 'em

Im an ass man!!!

[landrykkb]

I can't say many good things about Vince Russo,but he had a lot to do with WWE's success during the initial stages of the Attitude Era.That can't be denied!

[DarkThanos666]

of all the things I've heard Bush blamed for, the downfall of the quality of professional wrestling was not one of them...now I guess I can add that to the list, :/

[aaronwarren15]

U guys got a website? I totally respect what you guys are doing...impartial, realistic about wrestling, and knowledgeable. Good work.

[ECWnWWF]

The Attitude Era was not better than the Golden Era (1984 - 1992), and the best years in my opinion of the Attitude era was late 1996 - 1998..as you saw everything kind of come together - Austin's rise to power,Vince becoming the ultimate bad guy, the "screw" job, the formation of DX, etc.

SummerSlam 1999 was where the Attitude Era started losing it's momentum..Austin, Undertaker went on the DL and HHH/Rock became the head of the class

[sauron9990]

You put your ages on the screen. Weren't you guys all in the 9-12 range DURING the attitude era? You guys were kids.

So explain to me how you "remember" the cartoon characters from the early 90s? You didn't experience it, you saw it years after it happened.

At 9-12 years old did you guys really know all about the backstage stuff? Of course not. All of your commentary is if you watched the stuff TODAY.

Comment on what you felt THEN, not now. Because now it doesn't matter. Ex: The sable story.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

@sauron9990 Since you can't read, or perhaps don't understand what you read, I'll have to explain it : That is how long we've been FANS. See, where it says, "Fan - ___ years?" That means we've been fans that long, not how long we've been alive. Furthermore, we'll comment on whatever we fuckin feel like, because, I dunno, some us do something called "reading" or "research." We're commenting on what we felt then, what we feel now, whatever we want. So go tell someone else to do, genius.

-E

[DJJohnDouglas]

Preach it!

[TehKarmaPolice]

@WrestlingRoundtable E ignore this douchebag, they're clearly either a troll or ridiculously retarded.

[JMBitchboy]

The format is the same. Short matches, same camera angles and grpahics, promos and interferences but the content is no longer racy and raunchy yet those two things are what make all the difference in the world. I really do believe that this may be John Cena's era yet his legacy cannot compare to Stone Cold Steve Austin's.

[mychannelisgone]

why does no one mention the one legged kid that mcmahon and lesnar were beating up every week. made me stop watching.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

@mychannelisgone Because that was long after the Attitude Era, in 2003. But while we're on the subject, that was a freakshow we didn't particularly need, was it? heh

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[landrykkb]

The Attitude Era was what reversed WWE's fortunes,although the seeds for it had been planted in '96 with the likes of HHH,The Rock,Mick Foley's repackaging as Mankind,& last but not least,Stone Cold Steve Austin.

[Jdub14000]

ECW simply changed the WWF and the changing way wrestling was at the time.

[valad272]

who is he we do not speak of

[mychannelisgone]

@valad272 chris benoit

[miggy25]

Russo/Ferrera, McMahon and Jim Ross (who does often get overlooked for his vital contributions) all deserve equal credit for the success of the Attitude Era....MchMahon filtering Russo's ideas didn't allow storyline oversaturation like the NWO had in WCW...i'm a longtime fan (27 yrs) so 80's and early 90's is my favorite time, but the Attitude Era was a very exciting time to be a wrestling fan...also good call by Rodney on Goldust being almost the genesis of the more edgier WWF/E

[bigpoppachuck]

As for the critics and haters of the PG-Era... People read into the fact the "TV-PG" is the same as the MPAA rating "PG"....it's not. A lot of shows/movies on TV rated at "TV-PG" do have obscene language, characters in lingerie, dry humping, etc... So the WWE censors itself a lot more than they really need to.

[Nertrender]

@bigpoppachuck more than they need to to get a TV-Pg but not more than what it takes to get the advertisers they want and to make sure parents let their kids watch it.

[danlfc1983]

Good video guys, the Attitude era was my favourite era.

[WwfHerosAndVillains]

awesome

[Nertrender]

Yeah i don't get all the MMA hating you guys get. I am not a huge fan of mma (yet) but If the conversation bores me I just turn it off. It is not like I paid $50 for something called wrestling only to get something else... ....oh wait, that is called WrestleMania. great job guys.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

@Nertrender haha, good line, loved it. Thanks :)

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[Ashurst]

I absolutely adored the Attitude era. Heel HBK, Triple H, Chyna and Ravashing Ric, with Stone Cold and the Rock battlin' for the I.C. Title. The Hart Foundation, N.O.D, L.O.D., Mankind, Taker, Kane. Man, it was great. Also, The Montreal Screwjob!

HBK was attitude before it became a catchphrase. Let us all give thanks to the Kliq and its leader, its showstopper, its headliner and its mainevent and icon.

[StanPowder]

The day Shawn Michaels smashed Jeanetty's head through the barbershop glass window, the ground-work of the Attitude Era was forming, and symbolically Hulkamania/pg era got it's first fist to the face.

[vedder316]

Kudos for giving JR some credit!  Often i think his contributions are over looked.

[TheMasterSword16]

talking about offensive things during the attitude era, even though i didn't watch wrestling at the time, i can honestly say the undertaker's ministry of darkness would have scared the shit out of me as a kid had i watched that stuff. it's like they said, even if it was rated tv-14, a lot of kids were still watching, and seeing a cult strap guys to the giant logo and hanging the big boss man seems a little too much. even when i first saw a clip of the hanging a few years ago i was shocked

[Sweetguy9009]

@WrestlingRoundtable I think that JR, Vince McMahon, Ed Ferrera, and Russo should all get credit (not to discredit any of the in ring performers) when something works it is just due to one person. Same for nWo in WCW 1996-1998 And the Original ECW and quite frankly Rock N Wrestling Connection in WWE 1984-1992. The moon and the stars align sometimes and magic happens.

[nicthorson]

Eric does a great impression of Vince @ 19:10.

[SexxyMessiah]

You can also give indirect credit for the Attitude Era to Paul Heyman and his booking style.

[Nertrender]

So one history question, who introduced pyrotechincs? The earliest pryo intro I ever saw was with Muta in, I think, NJPW. Also, I have been thinking that with out attitude Bruno might be in the HOF.

[WorstThereEverWillBe]

i dunno guys i got into wrestling in early 1999 at 9 year old and absolutely loved the ministry/corporation/austin stuff as well as all the padding characters they had in the undercard. although in hindsight (and generally getting older hasnt helped), i think the WWE product was verging on rubbish in late 1999 and having austin injured with HHH and stephanie hogging the mic for at least a half hour at the start of every programme didnt help, hence my dim view of WWE in the year after overall.

[Lewis1711]

19:09 LMAO great vince impression

[theinfamouscamXXII]

Also, during the Ruthless Aggression Era, people who would dominate today's PG Era like Cena, Batista, and Orton were coming up. That's a mixed bag.

[theinfamouscamXXII]

I think the post-Attitude Era (2002-2005) was when WWE found its niche; they had some great wrestling at the time, which is not what the Attitude Era was renowned for as has been pointed out numerous times, AND it had these adult/mature storylines as well. With both rosters boasting talent like Evolution, Benoit, Michaels, Guerrero, Angle, Jericho, Mysterio, Taker, Lesnar and others, they could do no wrong.

[RandomMindz]

As the panel already knows, I started watching wrestling at 99, and it WAS unfortunate I watched (on smackdown) Mae Young saying she was pregnant, and seeing that disgusting replay of her birth....talk about being scared....

[647416]

but with the paper view matches were awsome

[NostalgiaWrestling]

Interesting to hear people that approve less of the Attitude Era, it is my favourite period of wrestling, somewhat of a nostalgic feel but the storylines and characters were great!

[rawisramsey]

Maaaan...and I wanted to get your take on Bones Jones and his soon-to-come KTFO of Matyushenko...great vid though...

[WrestlingRoundtable]

@rawisramsey Well, here is it, since you wanted it, heh : In all likelihood, Jon Jones is going to win, as he's got amazing strikes, good wrestling, he's faster, younger, and on a roll. That being said, I'm a Matyushenko fan, he's more experienced, probably stronger, and even if he does lose, I'm guessing he'll be Jones' most difficult win to date. I hate having to choose between two guys I'm fans of, heh, but I'm super jacked for the fight! :) Thanks for asking.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[leftyoublueandblack]

WWE has worked on getting the 9-12 year olds as there main fan base these last years. Im predicting in 3-5 years when these kids have there hormones raging, the product will get more edgy.

[toxicrexdawg]

another thing, was the condition that would leave the wrestlers in too! i mean mankind thats i gotta say. times change so wrestlers wanna be more charismatic than take chair shots. i mean billy gun and road dogg did alot of getting thrown under the bus episodes but they would get there revenge back, it was wisely done. to be honest thats true wreslting ent. attitude era. i really dont understand the crap from these days, its BORING. too much bubble gum jokes, not enuff take over.

[StewartLucrative]

I think music, movies, tv, and culture in general all went through a bit of an "attitude era" during the late 90's.

[pemcclanahan]

Its good to see the guys back in the round-table format. I really like the radio show, but the themed round-tables are my favorites. Great show every time!

[reh629]

the attitude era was a mainstream ecw. it is also catching lightning in a bottle. the nba thank god bird and magic arrived at the same time. the same goes for the wwf. the emergence of rock and austin simultaneously will never occur again.

[Dreadpirate46]

Great video. I wish I could go to that event in Wildwood, but I won't be visiting NJ until the 10th. Bummer.

[codyxkeith]

i believe that the attitude era began when shane douglas threw down the nwa title in ecw and ecw changed from "eastern championship wrestling" to "extreme chanpionship wrestling" i think the real roots of the attitude era are in ecw

[BigDaddy0207]

Nice rib at the start. I liked the topic at hand attitude era saved me as a fan. I was in 6th or 7th grade so wrestling with me and my friends was always cool to watch Vince McMahon stll gets my money today I feel WWE is trying to change with times RAW has slowly been getting better this year. I still love the WWE but I will say I watch more other companies like TNA, ROH, Dragon Gate, Chickara, NJPW, classic stuff. I think attitude era was innovative but how far are they going go? Good Topic

[dologhlin]

Great show as always. Raw used to be my must see tv in the 90s, now its Wrestling Roundtable. As an Irish fan, we only got WWF, thus missed out on the entire nWo phenomenon, which was pretty sickening. But i gotta say that watching Raw in 1997 and how they did the whole angle with the Hart Foundation being heel in the States and fan favourites in canada was genius. hell it was so hot with the fans that they got the Patriot over in a week (he left the week after). Gotta agree with eric.. 1997 #1

[dagmus]

such a pity that you guys only have 20 mins to discuss something as awesome as the attitude era, I mean there was Howard Finkle, APA + their non office, Dudley boyz, 5 second poses, Trish Stratus, Debut of Taz, Debut of Kane, D-generation X, Lita, Y2J, the Radicals, who ran over stone cold, comissioner foley, TLC match, Hell in the cell (wen it was good), Steve Blackman and Crash best hardcore champs ever, New Age Outlaws and the list goes on and on. compare that to 2day + WWE PG has got nothing

[roh1234]

Yeah the raw wrap up guy isn't the best reviewer ever, if not a bit annoying ; ) And 13 year old girls shouldn't be allowed to wear skirts, you might not be sure of how old they are...Personally, i think the attitude era was good for business, but the majority of matches were shoddy. But it did have plenty of entertaining aspects of it. Did you have to mention that rumble, i'm eating!!

[ESWEfounder]

you got me! lol, love the show!

[martinf74]

Enjoyed the show. Here's my thoughts, enjoyed the end of 96 thats when things started to change. I really enjoyed the whole of 97, that years Wrestlemania 13 signified the begging of the attitude era with Bret Hart going heel and AUstin turning face. 98 continued to be strong, however 99 was way too much, that year they seemed to forget about wrestling and wanted to turn the show into the Jerry Springer show. Howeever, 2000 and early 2001 were entertaining. After WM17 it all began to fall aprart

[NiceVideos11]

I think you also gotta give a lot of credit to Bret Hart... a name that is not mentioned much in generating the attitude era.

[Shalashaska8636]

I bet Rodney doesn't fast forward The Kat's 'unveiling' at Armegeddon 99.

[leconter]

@Shalashaska8636 I bet you you're right!

-Rodney, Wrestling Roundtable

[Shalashaska8636]

@leconter haha I reckon many an adolescent did quite the opposite of fast forwarding.

[MrBeastwaa]

The Austin Pillman incident was amazing

[logan48227]

Congratulations to Will Brooks breaking through the politics of the Wrestling Roundtable & moving up to the main card. Let's just hope you don't end up like Shelton Benja......oops, I mean Martin LeConte. Even nepotism can't get him back on the show! j/k

[BrickCity4eva]

once again great shows...and i couldn't have said it any better. Got one question...did you think the Attitude Era belts such as the European,, Hardcore and Light Heavyweight titles helped anyone's careers during it's peak? yes, it did get Triple H and HBK to grand slam Champion status, but did it help anyone else?

[DeathAdder83]

I have the same story, used to watch wrestling (early 90's) then I stopped (mid-90's) and then started agian (late 90's) been hooked ever since........sometimes I wonder why lol. At 14 years old I LOVED the "attitude era" and still do, but looking back...there was alot of straight up dumb shit too. Also, Eric is my favorite heel on You Tube!

[tjwwe]

I think the reason why I love Attitude Era so much besides the fact I grew up with it and all the memories and nostalgia I get, it's because back then there was such an emphasis on characters. Each character, wrestler whatever had their own original identity, and were all awesome. The Rock, the trash talking Badass with the best catchphrases of all time, Austin, the fearless bald redneck, Angle, the cowardly wimpy heel olympian, Kane the masked freak, each character meant something.

[landrykkb]

@tjwwe WWE's Attitude Era certainly had encouraged and endorsed individualism with its talent.

[karan6]

Dude I remember once when Kai en tai I think that is how you spell it chopped off Val Venis's dick....three days later he was wrestling one of em on Sunday Night Heat lol I was like wtf.... even at like 9 years old

[DiegoGurrolo]

The Positives of the Attitude Era was average to good storylines, The Rock, and Bringing the Best Wrestling Game of All Time WWF No Mercy for the Nintendo 64.

The Negatives were Sex, Devalue the IC and Tag Team Belts, Hardcore Division in the Year 2000, and Goldust from October 98 til his release in 99 before become good again in 2002 (My Opinion was his comeback).

The Worst Course of Owen Hart Death in May 23, 1999, And WWF Leaving USA Network to TNN in 2000 I Consider it the Downfall.

[bkstyle82]

Great discussion and kudos for mentioning JR. Will is right, that era was the perfect storm. Talent, writing and most of all having an audience that was receptive to it. Quick q tho, I think we have to take into how our tastes(collectively) then and now when we talk about whether or not the Attitude era was good or not. Its nostalgia at play for many folks but at the same time the fact that the

[jollymanbigboy]

Great show, I watched some of 99 earlier in the year and its a really ridiculous year for wrestling where storylines go nowhere, like the Titus Andronicus story where Al Snow at his dog that Big Bossman chopped up and fed to him.

But late 1990s like Chris said had more edgier tv like NYPD Blue, South Park, Family Guy, and the added controversy to the Jerry Springer Show. Sot it felt natural for wrestling to adapt to that darker era on television. Some was good some was bad but it was different

[landrykkb]

@jollymanbigboy Not everything about WWE's Attitude Era was memorable for the right reasons,that's for sure.They started to get carried away with their shock value acts because you can only shock the fans for so long.

[kingamer19]

I loved the MMA you should have saved it for April Fools or Halloween

[bkstyle82]

Its a to may to to mah to argument when it comes to that era. It was hugely popular and attracted a lot of non fans into the industry. I remember going to HS and seeing kids doing crotch chops and such at lunch. Most of those guys weren't even long time fans of the biz. Match quality wasn't the greatest but the storylines and feuds got a lot of people hooked and interested. WWE's great marketing push made them a ton of money.

[oldvitor]

The Additude era wasn't adult oriented, it was adolescent oriented. .

[TheBigBadWoIf]

@oldvitor amen

[DiegoGurrolo]

I'm waiting for Part 2 of the Overrated Era, The Attitude Era.

[MyLeftKnee1]

Does anyone else dance a little when they hear the opening theme?

Sable's 'hand paint' bikini ruined the PPV. HHH V Rock 2 out of 3, Taker+Austin v Mankind+Kane, and Owen v Shamrock were over shadowded by Sable's old boobs.

If I could have a time machine I'd go back and relive the Attitude era, or I'd just let HHH and HBK do another DX run on Raw.

[DiegoGurrolo]

That Was Me, I Posted the ESPN documentry of Pro Wrestling Hold's of America on Friday in the Message Board.

[DiegoGurrolo]

Sorry I Posted that Documentry of ESPN on 7/24/10 in the Message Board.

[chriswarden420]

wwe got beter in 2002????? 2002 was god awfull remember thats when the brand split started & everyone hated it at first. 2000 is arguably the greatest year in wwe history.

[kingabe07]

The year 2000 was a strong because it stood the test of time promo and match quality while 1999 had promos but lack luster matches. 1997 in WWE to me was confusing outside Hart Foundation and Austin because the main event for WrestleMania was undefined until four weeks prior to Mania in the past when the Main Event and key angles where built months in advance. 1998 was AWESOME because they did something new every week and brought creative to the next level. Great Show guys!

[badandy4452]

i think how america was back then played a part in the attitude era. the clinton scandal was the biggest news. jerry springer ,south park, and beavis and butthead was the hottest thing on t,v in fact if remember correctly i think at wrestlemaina 14 right after austin pins HBK the first thing u see is a sign in the crowd that says "austin is cartman dad!"

[JohnStripedfur]

My most favorite part of the Attitude Era was tpretty much the storylines. They had the best out there during that time period than what they did a few years ago. Especially around during the Austin vs. McMahon rivarly that pretty much made me a fan at that time. I think what transpires the most of that era was the rivalry between Austin and McMahon. Without that, I think the Attitude Era wouldn't have been popular.

[Ruud012003]

Great show as always guy.

I think you're always going to biased towards the era you grew up watching and although I came into wrestling towards the end of the New Generation era it was during the attitude era where I became a hardcore wrestling fan.

I know the attitude era had it's faults but we got to see so much great stuff and any era which has Austin and Rock every week is good by me.

[PowerlineWC]

One thing that ALWAYS gets me was whenever "the police" were involved (which still happens but happened more then). There's one where Austin is getting kicked out and The Rock shows up with a guitar and and sings, and the cops don't try to push Austin along nor tell The Rock to get lost like any mall cop let alone REAL cop would. Plus, the whole idea of it was broken. I would think damn near EVERYONE would get arrested for all the backstage beatdowns and whatnot. That's what cops do!!!

[MrPerfect2000Z]

Best/Worst ppv's of all time next right?

Is that wrestling exclusive Eric?

[clipsryan]

Maybe it's just cause I was in middle school but the attitude era actually got more of my classmates into talking about wrestling. It was the perfect change from the "silly" wrestling when I was in elemintary school and then as me and my friends were getting more mature, so was the WWF. I find the kids TODAY watching this WWE/F is alittle weird but you can't cater to each generation.

[ROH4LIFE91]

Attitude era=Overated and those fans imo are the most spoiled wrestling fans ever, first of those fans probably started watching wrestling as kids in the 80's and were hulkamaniacs then in the 90's once the wrestling shows started to get more adult those kids now teenagers now like this product cause its more for their demographic and now in the 00's those fans dont like wrestling and says it stupid because there are not the main focus anymore kids like it basically forgeting they were kids too

[5starwrestlingradio]

In my opinion something I thought was just ridiculous was Undertaker cutting his wrist and feeding Medion the blood.That was his "tranformation" into being in the ministry.You would think drinking the blood of the undertaker would make you more than a jobber.lmfao

[BTLgmoney]

Enough with the triple H bashing jeez.. Great Video Guys

[ICEGOD2]

I thought the fact WWE used sex appeal with the divas was cool(though ECW got them by a few years with that idea).

[5starwrestlingradio]

Hey guys,great episode.However I think the attitude era started in late/winter 1996 and ended in 2002.The reason why is b/c Brock Lesnar became the focal point that year and austin left the company.Also,The Rock left for hollywood in 2002.I think when those two guys left and Brock became the face it ended.Even then I argue that,b/c they still had alot of adult content going on(ie. HLA)I maybe I'm wrong but thats what I believe.Great show as always guys

[nWoWolfpacTV]

@WrestlingRoundtable I respect the fact you guys give Russo credit considering the sterotypical smark would not & fact you guys noticed that the current WWE format is so old & their programming is no longer artistically cutting edge. When Russo left storylines were not as good. Stephanie McMahon took over the creative in mid 2000 i believe & has managed to take ratings of Raw from 6 & 7 to 3's, Smackdown ratings from 4 & 5 to high 1 & low 2 while losing all of the WCW audience in process.

[JakeTheFakeReal]

10:53 Santino Morella?

[11JimMorrison]

you should talk about the Invasion storyline

[civilwarfare101]

What if wwe wanted Cena to act more like himself on tv?

[Cervclash]

LOL for a minute I thought it you guys were gonna discuss "attitude era" of MMA,LOL anyways great show!

[Mistertbones]

There is a reason why I didn't like the Attitude Era, they didn't wrestle enough!

[808scott]

Wow.....That was a "Mirror Universe" opening, Star Trek style...absolute GENIUS!!!

Eric, thanks ONCE AGAIN to ALL OF THE CREW behind Wrestling Roundtable, well worth the wait!!

p.s. You should have a "passing" reference to Olivia O'Lovely....just for old times sake:)

[Leaffaninalberta]

actually I DO think you guys should start a second show entitled MMA roundtable that would be awsome then there would be a show for both groups of fans one for the MMA crowd one for the wrestling crowd

[Schramm456]

Damn, if I'm ever in the New Jersey area I'd love to get on the show ha ha

-Ryan from MA

[xX95rddXx]

97 was the best year cuz it still edgy with dx and still had great wrestling with shawn, bret, austin etc

[foxnetworkchannel2]

Something that I will always rember form the Attitude Era was when Stone Cold and HHH beat the hell out of The Hardys and Lita, I was a kid and I went to bed shocked when Stone Cold beat lita with a chair.

[djack0wns89]

You guys rock! i loved the attitude era growing up, but after watching this, i agree with alot of what you guys said. '97 and '98 were great, but '99 was a real mediocre year as far as wrestling in WWF. just look at the 4 big ppvs that year; all 4 were really subpar shows, especially the Royal Rumble and WM XV (with the exception of the main event of WM XV,which wasnt even the best Austin-Rock match). im always enlightened by the opinions you share with your audience. great show as always! :)

[WrestlingRoundtable]

@djack0wns89 Actually, I think 99 quality-wise was a huge fuckin nosedive for the WWF, heh, but I think we've covered that in previous shows on WrestleManias, SummerSlams & Owen Hart's death. That being said, I hope to go in to even more detail(on the Attitude era) on the next Radio show this Tuesday as a follow-up to this topic. Thanks a lot for enjoying the show!

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[bkstyle82]

@djack0wns89 My only issue isn't with the attitude era, its with folks who believe that wrestling should be exactly the same way as it was back then. Things change and evolve. Gotta get over it. It would be great to have another big boom period but simply copying the attitude era shouldn't be the #1 priority. WWE has shareholders and investors that they don't want to piss off. WWE is still profitable so no need to do anything drastic.

[bkstyle82]

@djack0wns89 Btw Jack I didn't mean to send that as a reply to you lol. I f'd up My comment was just a general one not directed at you.

[djack0wns89]

@bkstyle82 no problem man. i actually agreed with what you said. i really enjoyed the years of 2003 to 2006 where the wwe focused more on the competitive aspect of matches and less on goofy or sexual storylines. i liked the attitude era mainly because of the charisma guys like rock and austin brought to the ring.

[landrykkb]

i thought Austin/Rock's WM 15 match was great,although the seeds were planted a year and a hal fprior to that when The Rock was I-C champ and Austin's popularity was just starting to explode through the roof.

[landrykkb]

@djack0wns89 Part of the reason for the '99 nosedive in the Big 4 PPVS of the year was because business was great already.They did remind me a lot of watching RAW and the titles even switched hands on there any times.When that happens,the PPVS are anti-climactic.

[MoonspiderHugs]

yeah, i agree, there are alot of factors involved to make the attitude era as success as it was....not just russo

[Brewcity227]

Good by the way HHH can get fucked no good POS.

[xX95rddXx]

FINALLY!! love the show...great work

[WrestlingRoundtable]

@xX95rddXx Thanks a lot!

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[Floconbob]

the PWR trailer , in black and white with the coloured spots , looked SO good.

[metalcoffie]

When I saw this was about the attitude era I was gonna make a joke about no MMA or MMA roundtable but ya squashed that right in the beginning. Damn you! jk, lol.

[MrPerfect2000Z]

MMA Roundtable? that will piss off the wrestling fans

Great show as usual Eric

[WrestlingRoundtable]

@MrPerfect2000Z haha, hey, just sending the trolling back right where it came ;) Thanks!

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[VeNeM999]

@MrPerfect2000Z not as much as you think, most will prolly stop watching, some will bitch ya but some stopped watching the show awhile ago when it stopped talking about wrestling and went in a more mma

[RandomMindz]

@MrPerfect2000Z

I confess, E sent me for a huge loop...

[wwescreename]

attitude era is overrated

[foxnetworkchannel2]

@wwescreename If you think The Attitude Era was overrated then I don't wanna know what you think is under rated.

[5starwrestlingradio]

@wwescreename ummm, yeah ur nuts

[DarkPascual]

Just for the record, while I'm a huge Pro-Wrestling fan, I love when you do comment on MMA.

[ThrashAD720]

No In Memory of Trent Acid?